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  1. Can the U.S. embassy in the PI be warned that there are US citizen ministers that are ... View Thread - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 10:26 AM
    1. Re: Can the U.S. embassy in the PI be warned that there are US citizen ministers that are ... - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 2:40 PM
      1. Two BEM students from California are dead. The danger is already there. - Walter on Feb 15, 2015, 3:47 PM
        1. oh, thank you for clarification, Col Walter - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 3:49 PM
    2. Pardon my ignorance but, in danger of what? - Mzlplck on Feb 15, 2015, 2:50 PM
     
  2. Surprise: New Era University provides substandard education View Thread - Capt. Seabird on Feb 15, 2015, 10:11 AM
    1. hahaha - NEU graduates may apply for jobs in INC's UNLAD factories - ASP on Feb 15, 2015, 2:18 PM
      1. Unlad Chairman Annie Santos might not hire them if they give Jun Santos the stink-eye - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 2:26 PM
    2. First off, "high failure rate" does not make INC untrue. Second of all.. - Mzlplck on Feb 15, 2015, 3:03 PM
      1. Col Elijah & Col Mzlpk, is that constant pursuit of Guiness world records the brainchild - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 3:12 PM
     
  3. ADVICE to disenchanted members of INC - start gathering old checkbooks View Thread - ASP on Feb 13, 2015, 10:07 PM
    1. Col ASP, any inside info on what happening on EVM? He's suffered from Depression awhile - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 3:19 AM
      1. up till now, I still find it funny & curious that WormJacob1914 got very Angry at me here - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 3:22 AM
      2. Can pills make an evil spirit go away? EVM is like King Saul who couldn't sleep because of - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:29 PM
        1. King Saul also lost his sanity, and turned away from God due to his pagan wives - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 7:07 PM
          1. Yes, so sad, he was a saved prophet, and then lost his salvation. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:12 PM
        2. Col Elija or Col ASP, here's a wild very Speculative Question. Did Edouard have an extra - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 7:26 PM
          1. Wow, so he has an evil wife too! So she can't lead him - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:30 PM
            1. iglesia ni quitso forum site also has gone down - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 10:09 PM
            2. I believe Babylynn or whatever the hell her name is, told EVM to disown Ka Tenny - Walter on Feb 14, 2015, 10:49 PM
              1. so Cristina Villanueva Manalo & Lynn Ventura Manalo had a mom-in-law/daughter-in-law spat - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 11:59 PM
          2. You're on the right track Col Ozzy except that.... - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 2:02 AM
            1. agreed. good point. Did Lynn Manalo order the protection of Head Deacon Juan Castanaga - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 2:41 AM
    2. Does that mean that Radel Cortez, Jerry Purificacion, Erdi Codero is taking orders from a - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 4:26 AM
      1. Radel Cortez looks like Erano Manalo's son, even in facial and body movements - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 5:12 AM
        1. Radel Cortez is a sociopath that takes orders from a female sociopath. - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 10:21 AM
          1. agreed: I dont think Babylon Ventura Manalo will ever set foot in America ever again - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 2:17 PM
     
  4. INQ back on its feet :) guess mister Ed failed at shutting it down! View Thread - Jodlas on Feb 15, 2015, 12:11 PM
    1. did you get some kind of "shut-down" notice? - ASP on Feb 15, 2015, 2:15 PM
     
  5. Do you have more information regarding the two BEM students that were killed? View Thread - Walter on Feb 15, 2015, 11:36 AM
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  7. I agree with Kidlat of Torontado about the verse Proverbs 6:16-19 View Thread - Elijah on Feb 13, 2015, 8:17 AM
    1. also add Boy Santos in INC USMO Burlingame as Wolf (Boy is sibling of Jun Santos) - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 13, 2015, 11:45 AM
      1. That is affirmative Col Ozzy that many people can attest that EVM cut off financial and - Elijah on Feb 13, 2015, 5:35 PM
    2. Kid Torontado left this forum when he knew I was right about this verse. - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:11 PM
    3. I think this is the perfect verse that summarizes the current administration of Eddieboy - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:56 PM
      1. Are all these kids evil? So sad, they must have inherited - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:02 PM
        1. there's something going with that Winner family in Tierra Pura Quezon City - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 14, 2015, 7:59 PM
          1. You think Solomon became insane? - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 8:33 PM
          2. Winner aka victory aka victoria... Ciudad de Victoria? Is there a connection? - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 2:06 AM
            1. Re: Winner aka victory aka victoria... Ciudad de Victoria? Is there a connection? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 2:19 AM
              1. Is there any connection to the Real Bank that was opened Near Central on TAndang Sora Ave? - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 4:22 AM
                1. yes, sir. Jerry Azucar of New San Jose Builders also owns Real Bank - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 5:24 AM
                  1. Was this the bank used to funnel the money for the P. Arena? Then closed it down when it.. - Ananias on Feb 15, 2015, 7:29 AM
                    1. well, the builder of cuidad victoria is past owner of Real Bank - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 15, 2015, 7:49 AM
     
  8. Katy Perry at the PA. View Thread - Walter on Jan 31, 2015, 5:47 PM
    1. Does she sing good songs, or sinful songs? - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 5:52 PM
      1. Her videos are very provocative and full of pagan symbolism. - Walter on Jan 31, 2015, 5:58 PM
        1. That's bad. No church should invite her to sing. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 6:02 PM
      2. NEVER heard of ANYONE who doesnt like SOME kind of music? - Eric on Feb 3, 2015, 3:06 PM
        1. Some people don't care about any music. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:07 PM
    2. A lot can happen between now and then. P.Arena is jinxed. - Ananias on Feb 2, 2015, 11:40 PM
    3. Eagle News has not advertised this yet - rappler has ad so far - ASP on Feb 3, 2015, 12:49 AM
      1. How deep will the arena have sunk by May on soft swampy liquefaction grounds? - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:18 PM
    4. Korean music event in INC Arena - hooray for Ja Hoon Ku - ASP on Feb 4, 2015, 7:18 PM
      1. im really confused about the "INC dancing" thing. Is it allowed or not? - mzlplck on Feb 4, 2015, 7:52 PM
        1. I have read they forbid only sexual dances. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:21 PM
    5. Maybe there will be a mud wrestling show instead? - Elijah on Feb 15, 2015, 4:29 AM
     
  9. Anna: Why doesnt INC teach you the ENTIRE Greek of John 1:1? View Thread - ERic on Dec 27, 2014, 12:45 PM
    1. Anna: WORD was "FACE to FACE" with GOD - ERic on Dec 29, 2014, 3:19 PM
      1. Even Moses spoke face to face with God. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 11:01 AM
        1. Was Moses with the FATHER " face to face" from BEFORE creation? - Eric on Jan 3, 2015, 2:24 PM
          1. Of course not. Moses was created much later than the Son. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 2:39 PM
            1. SO the SON who CREATED all things was CREATED? ..lol - Eric on Jan 4, 2015, 4:05 AM
              1. It is the Father who created all things THROUGH the Son. - emmanuel on Jan 5, 2015, 11:04 AM
                1. THROUGH the SON who did NOT exist yet? - Eric on Jan 6, 2015, 2:52 AM
                2. Yes,everything was created through God, the Son and created by God, the Father. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 13, 2015, 5:58 AM
                3. Don't just say that EMMAN. Tell us how the Father created through the Son. - Michael on Feb 1, 2015, 5:22 AM
              2. Yes, Eric, after being created, he co-created all things with - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 11:31 AM
                1. WORD was BEFORE ALL things: JESUS was NOT CREATED - Eric on Feb 1, 2015, 4:17 PM
                  1. Word was before all things, that's when he was created.q - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:08 PM
                2. Nice theory from the "heretic" - the guy he teaches that the Word is a creation of God. - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 10:35 PM
                  1. but this heretic who teaches heresies big has not yet made up his mind - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 10:42 PM
                    1. That's right, no verse says the HS was created or not created. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 7:10 PM
     
  10. Tomas, if the Son was created, how about the Holy Spirit, was it created too? cite proofs View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jan 3, 2015, 11:44 PM
    1. "... all things were made through him and for him, except himself." by Tomas. LOL - |Judie_84 on Jan 3, 2015, 11:46 PM
      1. The Bible is silent on whether the HS was created or not. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 6:52 PM
        1. Then Tomas, for you, you can't know and are not supposed to know if the HS is God or not? - Michael on Feb 1, 2015, 5:06 AM
          1. your "you can't know and are not supposed to know" attitude on things already revealed is - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 10:46 PM
            1. The fact that the Holy Spirit is God is clearly seen in many Scriptures - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 10:49 PM
              1. None of these verses prove the HS is God. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:41 PM
          2. Because the Bible is silent about it. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:17 PM
        2. We can't know through your head? Maybe. Yes we can't, if we use your brain, hehehe. - |Judie_84 on Feb 1, 2015, 8:16 AM
        3. Not the Father nor the Holy Spirit. Melchizedek who met Abraham was the pre-incarnate - |Judie_84 on Feb 1, 2015, 10:44 AM
          1. Melchizedek does have a lot of similarity to Christ, but - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:58 PM
     
  11. Kidlat Torontado, show me the verses in the bible that say Church leaders are excused from View Thread - Elijah on Feb 13, 2015, 5:46 PM
    1. Re: Kidlat Torontado, show me the verses in the bible that say Church leaders are excused from - TrueKidlatNgayon on Feb 13, 2015, 6:32 PM
      1. EVM Convention Center is an evidence of corruption you dumb ass - ASP on Feb 13, 2015, 6:34 PM
        1. Re: EVM Convention Center is an evidence of corruption you dumb ass - TrueKidlatNgayon on Feb 13, 2015, 7:11 PM
          1. you BIBLE says build chapels, nothing else - ASP on Feb 13, 2015, 7:16 PM
      2. Where are your proofs that this is untrue. When you get sent back to the Philippines you - Elijah on Feb 13, 2015, 6:35 PM
        1. Re: Where are your proofs that this is untrue. When you get sent back to the Philippines you - TrueKidlatNgayon on Feb 13, 2015, 7:13 PM
          1. Look at the chapels in your district. Are any in need of repairs that haven't been for - Elijah on Feb 13, 2015, 9:04 PM
          2. Anything that can't be proven is untrue? How naively stupid. - jodlas on Feb 13, 2015, 9:12 PM
    2. Kid Torontado couldn't refute my questions because there are no verses that protect... - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:38 PM
     
  12. Any NON-BRAINWASHED INC FOLK please stay and participate in this forum. View Thread - jodlas on Feb 13, 2015, 8:17 PM
    1. yep, you will see how dumbass EVM is wasting your money (planes, choppers, hookers..) - mzlplck on Feb 13, 2015, 8:35 PM
      1. Wouldn't it be great to get a picture of him in a hooters (with/without hookers)? - jodlas on Feb 13, 2015, 9:27 PM
        1. yep, his face resting on some nice 44D jigglies, shouting "YES YES AMEN!" - mzlplck on Feb 13, 2015, 9:53 PM
    2. I will not be surprised if EVM will not expel members in the next 5 yrs - ASP on Feb 13, 2015, 9:55 PM
      1. EVM gave Radel Cortez even xpelling authority to anyone who helps widows and orphans. - Elijah on Feb 14, 2015, 6:34 PM
    3. DONT WORRY INC members, most of us here are either EX-INC or "closeted-ex-inc"... - mzlplck on Feb 13, 2015, 10:01 PM
      1. "closeted-ex-inc" means "soon to be ex-inc". just needs some extra push.. - mzlplck on Feb 13, 2015, 10:06 PM
     
  13. The Son is subordinate to the Father-- is this the co-equal Trinity that you preac? View Thread - Kumag Ka on Sep 29, 2014, 10:19 AM
    1. Trinitarians-where are you? - Kumag Ka on Sep 29, 2014, 10:46 AM
    2. why not? hahaha. was not the Son sent by the Father? did not the Son obey the Father? - |Judie_84 on Sep 29, 2014, 11:50 AM
      1. thisIDIOTsaidwhynot, hahaha go back to school, grandma! scram! - Kumag Ka on Sep 30, 2014, 2:48 PM
      2. See, Judie, here you yourself admit he is subordinate to the Father, he was sent - Tomas on Oct 11, 2014, 6:57 PM
        1. who does not agree Tomas? - |Judie_84 on Oct 12, 2014, 12:29 AM
          1. On another thread you were disputing me, when I said similar things. - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 4:43 PM
            1. when and where? - |Judie_84 on Oct 26, 2014, 1:46 PM
              1. So I said similar things below, and you are disputing me. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 7:56 AM
                1. give the link so i'd know when i disputed you when you said those things. - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
                  1. i am flip-flopping like you? am i that cheap Tomas? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:15 PM
                    1. Look just below, where we were talking about him being second in command. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 11:57 AM
                      1. "And he might even be God himself." -Is this mere doctrinal instability or something else? - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:03 AM
                        1. Not doctrinal instability, we are not dealing with doctrine here, but - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:47 PM
                          1. a possibility being espoused by a mind which does not have doctrinal stability. - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 11:02 PM
                            1. It is good to change your mind on some doctrine, when - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:21 PM
                          2. "And he might even be God himself." Hehe... - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 11:03 PM
                            1. That's simply an issue where the Bible is silent. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:23 PM
        2. Is is a light thing to be the "second in command" of all creation? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:09 PM
          1. you take that position, honor, power, dignity, majesty lightly? Can a mere man have that - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:25 PM
            1. The "Second in Command" of all creation is a mere man, through whom and for whom all - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:28 PM
              1. I never claimed he is a mere man. He is far more, - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:07 PM
                1. Do you worship the Man Jesus or not? We Christians worship him. how about you JWs? - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 10:47 PM
                  1. I worship Jesus. The JWs don't, they mistranslate the verses - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:01 PM
                2. "And he might even be God himself." - Never go with unstable teachers like Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 3:58 AM
                  1. I am stable enough, though still open-minded. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:45 PM
                3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word "might even be God - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:49 AM
                  1. It's consistent with what the Bible teaches and does not teach. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 6:06 PM
                    1. for you who does not honor the Son as a non-created person, it is consistent with your - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 11:11 PM
                      1. No, I have come to reject more than a year ago - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:29 PM
          2. Judie, of course it is not a light thing. - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:04 PM
            1. Do you worship Jesus? The Father commanded all the angels to worship him! - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 10:48 PM
              1. Yes, the good angels worship him and I do too. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:02 PM
                1. And I suppose you worship Christ as your created god, right Tomas? - Michael on Jan 3, 2015, 1:10 PM
                  1. Yes, and more importantly as the Son of God. And he might be - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 1:23 PM
                    1. Yes but you don't worship Him because He might be God, but because He is your created god. - Michael on Jan 4, 2015, 9:43 AM
                      1. I don't worship every created god. I worship him because - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:48 PM
                        1. I'm not saying you worship every God Tomas. Please don't deviate. - Michael on Jan 31, 2015, 9:23 PM
                          1. I don't worship him because he is a created god, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:37 PM
                    2. "And he might be God himself anyway." Tomas's formula for 2015 - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:54 AM
                      1. You're just full of blasphemies Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 8:59 AM
                        1. No blasphemy. The Bible is not blaspheming. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:49 PM
                          1. The Bible blaspheming? Where in the world did yo know that? LOL - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 10:57 PM
                            1. I have known for a number of years already that the Bible does not - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:25 PM
        3. There's only one true God - faithdefender20 on Feb 5, 2015, 2:46 AM
    3. judie's Gods are two kinds- God Jesus is subordinate to God-the Father - Observer3 on Oct 11, 2014, 11:13 PM
      1. Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. One God, three persons. Eternal, self-existent/created, - |Judie_84 on Oct 12, 2014, 12:32 AM
        1. Eternal, self-existent/not created, all-powerful, all-knowing. - |Judie_84 on Oct 12, 2014, 12:33 AM
          1. If the Son is subordinate to the Father, then he is not all-powerful, - Tomas on Oct 25, 2014, 4:50 PM
            1. hahaha. Tomas, when will you learn? Why would there be a need for the Son to command the - |Judie_84 on Oct 26, 2014, 1:44 PM
              1. Tomas, you diligently search the Scriptures for you think you have eternal life in them - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 1:29 AM
                1. but they are they which testify about Jesus. The OLD TESTAMENT proves Jesus is God! - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 1:30 AM
                  1. Nowhere. - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 7:57 AM
                    1. you've been shown lots of texts but you strongly reject them! - |Judie_84 on Nov 11, 2014, 2:11 PM
                      1. I don't reject the verses, I accept them, love them, - Tomas on Dec 6, 2014, 9:20 PM
                        1. I reject any explanation which are not in agreement with the truth that the Word, - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 10:52 PM
                          1. I accept those verses totally. - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:14 PM
                            1. beginning is not equal to eternity? i guess so, hehe. - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 10:52 PM
                              1. That's right. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:04 PM
                            2. No, you don't accept fully that the phrase that says "... and the Word was God." - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 10:57 PM
                              1. I accept it as it is in Greek. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:06 PM
                                1. standard Bible translations such as KJV, RSV, NIV render it: "... and the Word was God." - |Judie_84 on Jan 4, 2015, 7:12 AM
                                2. Judy, what can you expect from an anti-trinitarian? If he'd accept the truth, "the Word - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 5, 2015, 1:57 AM
                                3. "God hasn't spoken to him - yet." but he acts as if he is the only person here who knows - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:00 AM
                                4. Yes, it is sad to see how he keeps on defending his weird beliefs, running from one - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 5, 2015, 9:41 PM
                                5. No, Judie, I don't know the truth either. God could be a trinity - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:09 PM
                                6. Judie, no translation of the whole Bible is inerrant. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:52 PM
                                7. "no translation of the whole Bible is inerrant... Or inspired." what a statement! - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 11:14 PM
                                8. Are you one of those fanatics who believe the KJV is inspired, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:39 PM
                                9. Re: Are you the one of those fantatics who believe the KJV is inspired - TheOtherOzzy on Feb 14, 2015, 5:59 PM
                                10. No, Lamsa is inferior, it is a translation of a translation. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 6:14 PM
                    2. Who was "the angel of the Lord" who appeared to Moses in Exodus 3? - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:13 PM
                      1. Tomas, emman, INCquisitor, kumago/observer3? - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:14 PM
                        1. Some important angel, in whom the Father appeared. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:07 PM
                          1. So there were two entities who appeared in that incident, the special angel and the Father - |Judie_84 on Jan 4, 2015, 7:18 AM
                            1. plain disrespect to the Word of God. private interpretations of the Bible lead to errors. - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 11:11 PM
                            2. Yes, Judie, 2 entities appeared, the Father was seen in the angel. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:54 PM
                              1. where's the support for you assertion that it was the Father who appeared to Moses? - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 2:59 PM
                                1. Remember Tomas that according to John 1:18, no man hath seen God at any time! - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:02 PM
                                2. If you believe that no one has seen God at any time, like INC believes, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:48 PM
                                3. Judie, I believe that the Father was seen in the angel of the Lord, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:46 PM
                    3. Read the Old Testament for they testify about the works of Jesus. Tomas: NOWHERE. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 7:03 AM
                      1. "Abraham saw my day and was glad." Jesus. Tomas: "No he didn't Sir!" - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 7:15 AM
                        1. Abraham saw his day in the first century in prophecy. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:10 PM
                          1. That's how you see it Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:17 AM
                            1. Maybe Abraham also saw Christ literally one day, but - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:56 PM
                              1. "Maybe Abraham also saw Christ literally one day..." what is it supposed to mean? - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:04 PM
                                1. Maybe, (just maybe) Tomas saw Moses in Miami, but the Bible is also silent about that! LOL - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:09 PM
                                2. No, I never even visited Miami. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:59 PM
                                3. It depends on whether Christ could have manifested himself - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:51 PM
                    4. i thought that you love to study the Bible Tomas. i thought you were honest in your search - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 7:21 AM
                      1. Maybe the Son did have preincarnate ministry, but - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:12 PM
                        1. John 1:1, 18; 20:28; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1— that affirm the deity of Jesus. - |Judie_84 on Jan 4, 2015, 7:06 AM
                          1. None of these verses, when understood correctly, affirm - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 2:00 PM
                            1. How? Tomas, how? - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:20 PM
                              1. We have been discussing most of these verses already. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:14 PM
                              2. And I prove Titus 2:13, by translating it - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:24 PM
                        2. what an irresponsible statement coming from the great pretender! - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:16 AM
                        3. When he appeared to Moses in the burning bush, did he not declare himself to be God? - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:26 AM
                          1. Why do some bloggers have the courage to shamelessly lie in this forum? - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:29 AM
                            1. Easy answer Judie. "Because they are not of the truth!" - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:30 AM
                              1. I am not lying. I am interpreting the Bible. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 2:01 PM
                                1. Avoid making private interpretations of the Bible Tomas. That is the cause all those - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:27 PM
                                2. You interpret 2 Peter 1:20 the same way as Catholics and INC. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:33 PM
              2. Judie, of course he would not want to command the Father, - Tomas on Nov 8, 2014, 8:00 AM
                1. Jesus cannot be God because he is subordinate to the Father? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:05 PM
                  1. where did you learn that? who told you so? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:05 PM
                    1. "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:08 PM
                      1. All things were made through him and for him! - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:08 PM
                        1. I did not say he can't be God. - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:18 PM
                          1. Tomas, no fix doctrine on the Deity of Jesus yet. Not sure whether Jesus is God or not. - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:00 PM
                          2. Are you now sure Jesus is God? - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 1:00 PM
                            1. Nobody should be really sure about this. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:13 PM
                              1. Yes, according to Tomas. hehe - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:04 AM
                                1. Because the Bible is silent about it. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:57 PM
                                2. "... and the Word was God." the Bible, silent? or Tomas is blind, ignorant, defiant. LOL! - |Judie_84 on Feb 4, 2015, 4:10 PM
                                3. I keep telling you the best translation is "... and the Word was a god". - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:36 PM
          2. jude is insane. Jesus is All-knowing but he does not even know when he is coming back - Observer3 on Oct 26, 2014, 2:12 PM
            1. Ps 139:1-6, 13-16 (NIV) "O LORD, you have searched me and you know me." - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 1:22 AM
              1. "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'" - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 1:26 AM
                1. and I do not want you to be participants with demons. - |Judie_84 on Oct 27, 2014, 1:28 AM
                  1. Yes, so sad that Kumag Ka participates with demons. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 8:18 PM
                    1. you too holds to the demonic teaching that the Word, the Son of God is a created being, - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:01 PM
                      1. Are you excluding even Christians who say the Son is God, - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:22 PM
                        1. Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:35 PM
                          1. The verse continues " but only the one who does the will of my Father - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:37 PM
                        2. Why was there a need for God to create another God or Person in the Godhead? - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:36 PM
                          1. To help him out in the creation? LOL. cite verses for your assertion! - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:37 PM
                            1. If Jesus is God, then he was created anyway, - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 12:39 PM
                              1. "The God who made himself and for himself?" The kind of nonsense if one would only - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 3:56 AM
                                1. The kind of nonsense one gets if he would keep on listening to Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:20 AM
                                2. Judie, if Jesus is God, then God the Father made God the Son. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:58 PM
                                3. That is, if God the Son is a creature. hehehe. "all things were made through him and for - |Judie_84 on Feb 4, 2015, 9:32 AM
                                4. No way did God create another God, that would violate Is. 43:10. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:48 PM
              2. Judie, Psalm 139 is correct. Yahweh, the Father sure is all-knowing. - Tomas on Dec 20, 2014, 8:11 PM
                1. the Son is not all-knowing? how many things is the Son ignorant of? - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:16 PM
                  1. If he is all=knowing now, then certainly he was not all=knowing - Tomas on Dec 27, 2014, 8:24 PM
                    1. he gave the signs of his second coming, didn't he? was knowing the exact day more - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 4:34 AM
                      1. Jesus can read our hearts. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 1:17 PM
                        1. you accused Jesus of not being all-knowing, was knowing the exact day more - |Judie_84 on Jan 4, 2015, 6:59 AM
                          1. Well, Jesus will judge based on what the Father will tell him. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 1:01 PM
                            1. Jesus will not be an announcer of a judgement, but is the Judge. - Michael on Feb 3, 2015, 3:10 PM
                              1. In John 5:30, Jesus said "I cannot do anything on my own. I judge as I hear, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:44 PM
                2. Jesus has the names of God: Yahweh, Kurios, Elohim, Theos - |Judie_84 on Dec 28, 2014, 8:17 AM
                  1. The Father is not the only Kyrios. - Tomas on Jan 3, 2015, 1:20 PM
                    1. Your blah blah blah! - |Judie_84 on Jan 5, 2015, 4:23 AM
                      1. No, correctly interpreted, none of these verses affirm - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 1:03 PM
                        1. According to the interpretation of the "Anti-Christ is God" people like you? - |Judie_84 on Feb 4, 2015, 1:20 PM
                          1. I am not against "Christ is God". He could be God. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 5:50 PM
            2. no answer? that's why i chose not to dignify judie's blabbering- all talk, no substance. - Observer3 on Nov 11, 2014, 9:51 PM
              1. all talk no substance! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:27 AM
              2. you are a liar, a tool of the deceiver and have not dignity in you. you cannot dignify! - |Judie_84 on Dec 20, 2014, 11:03 PM
    4. The Son is equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead - Coffeemaker on Dec 27, 2014, 9:21 PM
    5. The Son is inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood - Coffeemaker on Dec 27, 2014, 9:23 PM
    6. In this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. - Coffeemaker on Dec 27, 2014, 9:28 PM
    7. that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:39 PM
    8. Equal as to nature. As to position, the Father is the one who commands, the Son obeys. - |Judie_84 on Dec 27, 2014, 11:52 PM
     
  14. Tomas, would you please, for the sake of the other bloggers here, post all your heresies View Thread - |Judie_84 on Feb 2, 2015, 11:21 PM
    1. Tomas! - |Judie_84 on Feb 3, 2015, 3:29 PM
    2. Tomas - |Judie_84 on Feb 7, 2015, 11:24 PM
      1. Another example: "And he might even be God himself." referring to Jesus Christ - |Judie_84 on Feb 7, 2015, 11:25 PM
        1. "The Word could have been God, sure." - Another doctrine of Tomas, which he contradicts - |Judie_84 on Feb 9, 2015, 10:44 PM
          1. I don't contradict it. Besides being a god, he could be God himself. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:04 PM
        2. Another is "God the Father, and the Son of God abandoned the human Jesus on the cross - |Judie_84 on Feb 11, 2015, 11:44 PM
          1. That's not my doctrine, just a possibility, in case Jesus is God. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:08 PM
      2. Verses which prove that the Word was created, by Tomas. - |Judie_84 on Feb 11, 2015, 11:50 PM
        1. He was created. But I am not calling the belief of his not being created a heresy, - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:18 PM
    3. I don't believe in any heretical beliefs. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:02 PM
      1. No one believes in heretical beliefs. Its like a drunkard saying hes not drunk - Mzlplck on Feb 14, 2015, 12:21 PM
        1. A drunkard saying he's not drunk, is deceiving himself. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:36 PM
          1. I said that as a general context. For yours, proving/disproving it is judies job. - Mzlplck on Feb 14, 2015, 1:54 PM
            1. Sorry to hear that INC ruined your family. They can be so divisive. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 2:25 PM
              1. Wow! Thats sweet of you, leaving koran in the dark. But thats fine, i know the routine.. - Mzlplck on Feb 14, 2015, 3:41 PM
                1. You have converted to Islam? They are a false gospel. - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 4:12 PM
     
  15. Come out of Inc to the only true church View Thread - Apollo C Quiboloy on Jan 18, 2015, 10:12 AM
    1. The Appointed Son of God...lol. You're as bad if not worse than the "Last Messenger". - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 18, 2015, 6:48 PM
      1. Herr Oberst Guenter - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jan 18, 2015, 7:43 PM
        1. Oh, OK. lol - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 31, 2015, 3:12 PM
      2. Far worse than the "last messenger". - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 10:34 AM
        1. FYM preached the gospel? By adding ALONE (The Father ALONE) to John 17:3? That's only one - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 31, 2015, 3:14 PM
          1. He didn't add ALONE. He just figured it's implied, - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 5:43 PM
            1. You are wrong, as usual. Why don 't you ever do your homework prior to blabbering nonsense - Guenter (EC-INC Bible Student) on Feb 8, 2015, 12:17 AM
              1. No, when the Pasugo said "In teaching that the Father ALONE - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 2:45 PM
     
  16. Where are the clowns? so silent now! LOL View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jan 8, 2015, 1:41 PM
    1. Anna, emman, Tomas... and all those who adhere to the demonic teaching that Christ is a - |Judie_84 on Jan 8, 2015, 11:15 PM
      1. I'm finally back. And that teaching is not demonic, but biblical. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2015, 12:16 PM
        1. the heretic is back. you are biblical? hehe - |Judie_84 on Feb 8, 2015, 4:02 PM
          1. It sure is biblical, Julie. According to the "Tomas Bible". Tomas has burned the "Hol - Guenter (EC-INC Bible Student) on Feb 8, 2015, 4:37 PM
            1. I use various translations of the Bible, and even more the original1 - Tomas on Feb 14, 2015, 12:46 PM
     
 
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