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  1.   Tomas, Once one becomes a son of God, one does not lose his sonship, whenever he sins. View Thread - Michael on Nov 26, 6:32 AM
    1. No, we don't lose our salvation when we sin, only if we refuse - Tomas on Nov 30, 8:06 AM
      1. So JESUS paid for the SINS of EVERYONE, and then some LOST it?? lol - Eric on Nov 30, 10:49 AM
        1. Not everyone. Only those saved. And if some lost salvation, - Tomas on Nov 30, 11:44 AM
          1. Cite scripture where someone FORFEITED their SALVATION - Eric on Dec 3, 11:20 AM
            1. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 - emmanuel on Dec 4, 4:27 PM
              1. So that's why people join the INC? - jhenry69 on Feb 8, 4:50 PM
              2. That's not a forfeit to salvation, that's never accepting/attaining it in the first place - INCgoersGF on Mar 9, 12:56 AM
            2. Eric, for example Solomon lost his salvation, when - Tomas on Dec 7, 8:38 AM
              1. Once JESUS PAID for your SINS.. its a DONE DEAL - Eric on Dec 7, 12:53 PM
                1. Not true, it is conditional, we have to endure to the end. - Tomas on Dec 7, 1:08 PM
                  1. So JESUS NEEDLESSLY suffered and DIED and paid for SINs of some who would lOSE it? - Eric on Dec 7, 1:14 PM
                    1. He suffered and died the same no matter how many people he paid for. - Tomas on Dec 7, 1:32 PM
                      1. NOOOO! PAYMENT is FINAL . You are SAVED if JESUS WASHED your soul with HIS blood!! - Eric on Dec 7, 2:08 PM
                      2. Colonel Tom, The Payment of Jesus is Final. You r invited to Dinner all paid for by Jesus - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Dec 7, 3:18 PM
                        1. So argue with the Bible verses I provided Michael. - Tomas on Dec 7, 5:14 PM
                          1. Colonel Tom, you are putting your God hat again, commanding people what to do - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Dec 7, 5:21 PM
                            1. I am not commanding you, just inviting you to discuss - Tomas on Dec 7, 5:29 PM
                              1. you are full of Falsehood, COlonel Tom, false like Manalo preaching Jesus is not God - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Dec 7, 6:02 PM
                                1. I might not have all my secondary doctrines correct, - Tomas on Dec 21, 10:03 AM
                                2. But you have all the primary doctrines correct. WOW. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 19, 4:04 PM
                                3. All saved Christians have to have all the primary doctrines correct, - Tomas on Jan 25, 11:33 AM
                                4. Re: All saved Christians have to have all the primary doctrines correct, - bradderjun on Jan 25, 3:41 PM
                                5. Yes, it is a very controversial issue, whether Christians can lose salvation. - Tomas on Jan 25, 8:03 PM
                                6. Jesus said: "You will die in your sins." Are you saying, those people will be saved - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 26, 4:08 PM
                                7. Jesus said it of those who were indeed going to die - Tomas on Feb 1, 12:03 PM
                                8. Tomas, what kind of argument is that? Of course, when you convert and finally believe you - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 1, 5:42 PM
                                9. Of course. In any case, no problem with me, - Tomas on Feb 8, 11:22 AM
                                10. You contradict yourself. How can you believe when you keep saying "we are not supposed to - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 9, 3:21 PM
                                11. Don't worry. I believe everything Jesus is crystal clear about. - Tomas on Feb 15, 5:03 PM
                                12. Secondly, the problem I have with Tomas is that he keeps saying, he exactly knows what the - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 26, 4:23 PM
                                13. I don't claim to be infallible on non-essential doctrines. - Tomas on Feb 1, 12:07 PM
                                14. That's exactly what I'm saying, fallible in non-essential doctrines, but infallible in - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 1, 5:36 PM
                                15. Every saved Christian has to be infallible on essential doctrines. - Tomas on Feb 8, 11:35 AM
                                16. How can you convince me with your lengthy language self-praise if you don't even know - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jan 26, 3:27 PM
                                17. Where did I misunderstand 'by evil' and 'with evil'? - Tomas on Feb 1, 12:12 PM
                                18. Whn you said you are now sure Jesus can't be God because Satan tempted Him. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 9, 3:23 PM
                                19. I would never say something so stupid, contradictory to my - Tomas on Feb 15, 5:08 PM
                                20. thus the devil is more knowlegeable, he couldn't tempt god so he tempted the man jesus. - observer2 on Feb 16, 11:08 PM
                                21. The devil did not know either, if Jesus is God. - Tomas on Feb 23, 2:27 AM
                                22. Observer2, unfortunately, that isn't true. The devil didn't know so he tried and failed. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 23, 10:06 PM
                                23. OK, you might have said this is a hint that Jesus might not be God. You still don't know - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Feb 23, 10:02 PM
                                24. I believe all the essential doctrines about Jesus. - Tomas on Mar 1, 8:36 PM
                                25. so, what are the non-essentials about jesus? - Observer2 on Mar 5, 1:09 PM
                                26. Everything except doctrines where the Bible says we are saved - Tomas on Mar 8, 9:18 PM
                                27. if you believe jesus is god and worshiped him as such, - Observer2 on Mar 15, 2:50 PM
                                28. The Bible does not tell us if Jesus is God or not. But it - Tomas on Mar 15, 4:22 PM
                                29. What qualifies you as a linguist? Profession, degree, schooling? - INCgoersGF on Mar 9, 1:02 AM
                                30. I have bachelor's degree, majoring in linguistics. - Tomas on Mar 9, 5:04 AM
      2. Tomas, you might have missed what Paul said here. - Michael on Dec 3, 6:54 AM
        1. What Paul is saying here is he wills to do good, - Tomas on Dec 7, 9:28 AM
          1. Yes he does, Tomas. - Michael on Dec 12, 4:37 PM
            1. But you are right that we Christians still have sinful flesh. - Tomas on Dec 21, 10:45 AM
              1. Tomas, it seems you don't have any direct refutation on every point I made. - Michael on Dec 22, 5:39 PM
                1. Colonel Michael, here's a tidbit on this concept of Salvation Loss from Colonel Tomas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Dec 22, 6:59 PM
                  1. The concept that salvation can be lost, is not a new concept. - Tomas on Dec 28, 4:50 AM
                2. Michael, I am sorry if I skipped something. - Tomas on Dec 28, 4:35 AM
                  1. No problem Tomas. But perhaps you can consider my suggestion. - Michael on Jan 5, 5:05 PM
                    1. OK, I will follow your suggestion. - Tomas on Jan 11, 12:32 PM
                      1. Thanks. - Michael on Jan 19, 3:01 PM
                        1. About God protecting us from evil, more to discuss. - Tomas on Jan 25, 3:34 PM
                          1. Re: About God protecting us from evil, more to discuss. - Michael on Feb 9, 4:30 PM
                            1. Continuation of the discussion on salvation. - Tomas on Feb 15, 7:15 PM
                              1. Re: Continuation of the discussion on salvation. - Michael on Feb 16, 5:38 AM
                                1. More about salvation. - Tomas on Feb 23, 2:48 AM
                                2. Re: More about salvation. - Michael on Feb 23, 4:55 AM
                                3. Still more about salvation. - Tomas on Mar 1, 9:25 PM
                                4. Re: Still more about salvation. - Michael on Mar 3, 8:15 PM
                                5. Even more about salvation. - Tomas on Mar 8, 10:32 PM
                                6. Re: Even more about salvation. - Michael on Mar 12, 12:24 PM
                                7. More about salvation and free will. - Tomas on Mar 15, 1:18 PM
                                8. Re: More about salvation and free will. - Michael on Mar 16, 6:45 PM
                                9. Still more about salvation and free will. - Tomas on Mar 29, 6:28 PM
                                10. Continued from above, still about salvation and free will. - Tomas on Mar 15, 1:21 PM
                                11. Re: Continued from above, still about salvation and free will. - Michael on Mar 16, 7:14 PM
                                12. About free will for salvation. - Tomas on Mar 29, 6:56 PM
                                13. Re: About free will for salvation. - Michael on Apr 10, 2:37 PM
    2. if you are the son, you don't embarrass your father and sin all the way. - Observer2 on Mar 4, 12:23 PM
      1. Of course. But what's your point? How is this related to the issue at the OP? - Michael on Mar 12, 12:28 PM
     
  2. On 2 Cor. 8:9, how was Christ rich and how did He became poor? View Thread - Michael on Apr 10, 1:59 PM
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  4. John was sent John was sent for what purpose & for whom? What did FYM preached about this? View Thread - Michael on Nov 27, 1:01 AM
    1. UP. John was sent for what purpose? - Michael on Nov 28, 5:14 PM
      1. Consider these, and perhaps you'll see light. - Michael on Nov 29, 1:24 AM
        1. UP for the INCers, Ex-INCers. TOMAS, INCQUISITOR, EMMAN, care to respond to this? - Michael on Dec 14, 3:53 PM
          1. Well, no one seems to care afterall. - Michael on Dec 20, 6:12 PM
            1. I care deeply. See my answer below. - Tomas on Dec 21, 5:49 AM
        2. Michael, I will tell you. John was sent to prepare the way - Tomas on Dec 21, 5:49 AM
          1. Hi Tomas. Tnx for responding. Hope you can give time to respond to our other discussions. - Michael on Dec 21, 7:28 AM
            1. Yes, there are two Lords, either one is the Lord, in a different sense. - Tomas on Dec 21, 9:05 AM
              1. No, there is only one Lord - God. - Michael on Dec 22, 3:20 PM
                1. Two Lords, for example Acts 2:34. One Lord saying to another Lord. - Tomas on Dec 28, 5:56 AM
                  1. Very well then, you have two Lords, the Father and the Son. - Michael on Jan 5, 8:24 AM
                    1. Yes, and I say we all have two Lords, whether we believe it or not. - Tomas on Jan 11, 7:04 PM
                      1. Re: Yes, and I say we all have two Lords, whether we believe it or not. - Michael on Feb 10, 7:19 AM
                        1. I think you are jumping to conclusions of what Lord of lords means. - Tomas on Feb 15, 4:18 PM
                          1. I think you are denying the obvious and true meaning of Lord of lords. - Michael on Feb 19, 6:10 AM
                            1. It seems obvious to you, but I disagree. I go by the wording. - Tomas on Feb 23, 1:19 AM
                              1. Re: It seems obvious to you, but I disagree. I go by the wording. - Michael on Feb 24, 7:37 AM
                                1. More interesting discussion. - Tomas on Mar 1, 6:15 PM
                                2. Re: More interesting discussion. - Michael on Mar 7, 2:47 PM
                                3. More discussion about the Father and the Son. - Tomas on Mar 8, 7:19 PM
                                4. Re: More discussion about the Father and the Son. - Michael on Mar 14, 3:39 AM
                                5. Still more about the Father and the Son. - Tomas on Mar 15, 7:37 AM
                                6. Re: Still more about the Father and the Son. - Michael on Mar 17, 7:36 PM
                                7. Continued, about the Father and Son. - Tomas on Mar 29, 4:18 PM
                                8. Re: Continued, about the Father and Son. - Michael on Apr 10, 12:45 PM
    2. UP for the INCers, Ex-INCers, students of FYM. - Michael on Dec 14, 3:47 PM
    3. Up: for the truth. - Michael on Dec 19, 2:06 AM
    4. Well, apparently, no INCer, seems to care what purpose John the Baptist was sent for. - Michael on Dec 20, 6:04 PM
      1. INCers have abandoned this forum already? the Soldier of hehe no longer responds to our - |Judie_84 on Feb 19, 12:06 PM
        1. INC ministers afraid to post in this forum cause they may get questioned by govt for theft - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 19, 3:27 PM
          1. Ozzy - after all these years of info, why haven't the US govt acted in any level? - ASP on Feb 19, 10:39 PM
            1. i'd like to know too. Ministers in Manalo inside-circle, and Allan Villanueva and Airforce - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Feb 20, 12:00 AM
     
  5. Two kinds of "truth:" "physical" truth and "spuritual" truth. View Thread - INCquisitor on Apr 7, 12:31 PM
    1. One still needs to use physical senses in order to determine "spiritual" truth - WormJacob on Apr 7, 5:38 PM
      1. Jews who believe in Judaism will disagree with your premise - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 5:49 PM
        1. judaism is based on the old testatment, a part of the bible. It's an unproven belief - WormJacob on Apr 7, 7:25 PM
          1. the problem of Being a Manalista is you dont know Jesus did more miracles in one day than - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 7:43 PM
            1. the problem with faith is that you have to allow too many assumptions for it. - WormJacob on Apr 7, 8:10 PM
              1. you still see the Bible through the lens of a Manalista - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 8:48 PM
              2. without faith, it is impossible to please God... some are like the little girl, a grade - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 1:51 AM
                1. a more realistic comparison is a little girl talking to her imaginary friend - WormJacob on Apr 9, 2:05 AM
                  1. the inspired writers of the Bible were grown up men who wrote under the direction of God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 2:21 AM
                    1. "inspired" writers? Here we go with the unverifiable qualifiers again. - WormJacob on Apr 9, 2:30 AM
                      1. when you were already in the INC? Faith is essential man, you don't have to go back to - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 2:54 AM
          2. for me, the presence of the modern state of Israel is proof enough for the Bible. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 2:13 AM
            1. The hindus also have a story about how the universe was created. Many Hindus still exist. - WormJacob on Apr 9, 2:23 AM
              1. are they the ones who have millions of gods? does not the Bible clearly say that there is - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 2:40 AM
                1. Why would a Hindu need to refer to the bible? They have no need for it. - WormJacob on Apr 9, 4:24 PM
                  1. the Christians, the Israelites, the Jews, modern Israel, the Muslims. they are real hard - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:49 PM
                    1. before any of those people you mentioned, there were Hindus. - WormJacob on Apr 9, 7:30 PM
                      1. so for you, whose teachings is right? those whose faith came before Abraham or the - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:13 PM
                      2. i guess before the Hindus, there were also other faiths but we can't know them now for - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:43 PM
                  2. Unbelief and Its Consequences - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:53 PM
      2. No need for physical verification to prove "spiritual truths." - INCquisitor on Apr 9, 1:08 AM
        1. it's not about what one potentially loses. It's about real vs. not real - WormJacob on Apr 9, 2:19 AM
          1. medicine does not do the same for all people. to some it may even be a poison. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 2:29 AM
            1. if not all men are given the "gift" of accepting the bible, why make fun of them? - WormJacob on Apr 9, 8:28 AM
              1. because they act as if they are the ones who know the truth and attack the Christians whom - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 1:15 PM
              2. some men make fun of God. is it not a more serious offense? - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:08 PM
                1. So the lesser of two evils is ok? Why are you making excuses instead of repenting? - WormJacob on Apr 9, 4:28 PM
                  1. I was just returning the favor, so to speak. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:41 PM
                2. Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:45 PM
              3. some men are actively opposing G-d by saying his Word is not true, unreliable, etc. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:24 PM
              4. i admire you for your search for the truth Wormie, but it's sad to say that outside of - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:38 PM
          2. you are sort of burning down the whole house just to catch the mouse Wormie. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:58 PM
            1. kind of like god burning the whole world cuz Eve took a bite of some fruit? - WormJacob on Apr 9, 7:39 PM
              1. wormie, i am a Christian, i have no right to tell G-d what to do. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:23 PM
                1. God creates a paradise & man to live forever. Then it falls apart. That's the first proble - WormJacob on Apr 10, 11:56 AM
                  1. there is time for everything, a time for perfection is coming... - |Judie_84 on Apr 10, 12:30 PM
          3. Re: it's not about what one potentially loses. It's about real vs. not real - INCquisitor on Apr 10, 3:51 AM
    2. Good thing you brought that up INCquisitor - mzlplck on Apr 7, 7:00 PM
      1. the prayer of the righteous avails much - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 1:58 AM
        1. example of a righteous person? - mzlplck on Apr 9, 3:23 PM
          1. Trinitarians are the best, hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:15 PM
            1. does god deal with "the best"? or who is right? - mzlplck on Apr 9, 4:35 PM
              1. G-d does not hear the prayers of the ungodly, and why should He? - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 4:39 PM
                1. ANS: TRINITARIAN ARE THE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHOSE PRAYERS ARE POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE. - mzlplck on Apr 9, 5:26 PM
                  1. i confirm. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:25 PM
                    1. The following TRINITARIAN GROUPS ARE THE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHOSE PRAYERS ARE POWERFUL AND E - mzlplck on Apr 10, 12:31 AM
                      1. i kindly confirm. - |Judie_84 on Apr 10, 2:19 AM
                        1. At least you got a broader scope of "true christians", id give you that. - mzlplck on Apr 10, 3:13 AM
     
  6.   Judie, if the Holy Spirit is God, why don't you worship him? View Thread - Observer2 on Mar 4, 12:34 PM
    1. Christians worship God. The Holy Spirit IS God... - jhenry69 on Mar 5, 7:07 AM
      1. you worship god but you also worship jesus and the father individually - Observer2 on Mar 5, 1:00 PM
        1. Yes, but you have to understand... - jhenry69 on Mar 6, 9:04 PM
          1. ...to continue - jhenry69 on Mar 6, 9:08 PM
            1. just give a brief explanation, jhenry, one that can be understood by a layman like me. - Observer2 on Mar 11, 2:29 PM
          2. pls don't get confused. if you worshipped the father and jesus, why - Observer2 on Mar 11, 2:27 PM
            1. the Holy Spirit directs the Church - |Judie_84 on Mar 11, 10:26 PM
              1. those things done by the Holy spirit, did someone greater tell him what to do? - Observer2 on Mar 15, 2:14 PM
                1. where is proof that God told the Holy Spirit what to do? - |Judie_84 on Mar 19, 5:26 AM
                  1. a simple verse which says he has to be worshiped if he is God. just one simple verse that - |Judie_84 on Mar 19, 5:30 AM
                    1. You don't have any verse that says the HS is God, thus none worships him !! - Kumag Ka on Mar 19, 7:53 AM
                      1. do each three of the persons in the Godhead have to have all the - |Judie_84 on Mar 24, 7:42 AM
                        1. you can ask Athanacius or michael for that, judie. - Observer2 on Mar 25, 11:05 PM
                          1. the three persons are all divine. three persons in one God. the Trinity. - |Judie_84 on Mar 25, 11:54 PM
                            1. Won't you call them 3 Gods? The Father, Jesus and the HS are all Gods in their own merit? - Kumag Ka on Mar 26, 12:15 AM
                            2. Won't you call them 3 Gods? The Father, Jesus and the HS are all Gods in their own merit? - Kumag Ka on Mar 26, 12:16 AM
                              1. not three Gods, Kumag Ka, only one true God. not three! - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 2:38 PM
                                1. the hs is god, jesus is god, the father is god- aren' t they all gods, you fool? - Observer2 on Apr 2, 11:14 PM
                                2. And anyone who says, 'You f**l!' will be in danger... behave if you must but don't you - |Judie_84 on Apr 3, 6:49 AM
                                3. the three aren't Gods? LOL LOL LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 4, 2:55 PM
                                4. do you still pray to your god f times a day? your god does not have a son, does he? hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 4, 3:03 PM
                                5. god has biological son? is god too? no, they are 'persons' in trinity! hah ha - Observr2 on Apr 4, 11:20 PM
                                6. is this how you mock Christians? CHRIST IS GOD, THE SON OF MARY! is that it Kumag Ka? - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 7:11 AM
                                7. have you forgotten the so-called Golden Verse of the Bible? John 3:16? - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 10:38 AM
                                8. you are a bad Muslim pretending to be a true Christian Kumag Ka! you are Devil sent! - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 10:41 AM
                                9. Muslims revere Isa. You mock him to the hilt! you have no life in you! - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 10:42 AM
                                10. That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 10:49 AM
                                11. Tell me, Judie, WHy do you call them persons in Trinity but God individually??? - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 1:34 PM
                                12. because they took the pilgrimage to makkah? hahaha. LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 2:48 PM
                                13. who was the third person in your trinity? first was you right? then observer2 and then who - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 2:49 PM
                                14. Because Kudie has no answer, so he resorts to nonsense. LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 6:24 AM
                                15. harharhar, the spokeman of the human trinity answers back! - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:23 AM
                                16. bwa ha ha ha Judie can't tell why he calls the HS God but don't worship it. - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 2:15 AM
                  2. Learn something, jUDIE. Read John 14:26, Acts 2:33 - Kumag Ka on Mar 19, 7:49 AM
            2. you're funny, judie. why can't you answer why? - Observer2 on Mar 15, 2:10 PM
              1. you're funnier, you're looking for things that's not written? hehe - |Judie_84 on Mar 19, 5:28 AM
                1. Ha haha that's admitting there is no verse to prove your HS is God and is worshippable !! - Kumag Ka on Mar 19, 7:54 AM
                  1. so to you, Jesus and the Holy Spirit do not deserve to be worshiped. only your god ellah? - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 2:15 PM
                    1. Only God is worthy of worship - none else !! - Kumag Ka on Mar 28, 11:53 AM
                      1. when God sent his son into the world, he commanded all the angels to worship him! - |Judie_84 on Mar 28, 4:25 PM
                        1. your verse was wrongly written. Ask the angels, they all said to worship God. - Kumag Ka on Mar 29, 12:48 AM
                          1. why not re-write it to right it's wrong? hehe. write your own 'Epistle Accdg to KK'. LOL - |Judie_84 on Mar 29, 3:55 AM
                            1. The angel said he's a servant of God, he said to worship God !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 4, 3:00 PM
                              1. the Father said he is God and commanded all the angels to worship the Son! that's how - |Judie_84 on Apr 4, 3:05 PM
                                1. really? so why don't u have a single verse tht confirms the angel indeed worshiped el - Observr2 on Apr 4, 11:29 PM
                                2. show me a verse that shows the angels disobeyed the Father's order for them to worship - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 7:06 AM
                                3. you mean the Father ordered all the angels to worship the Son and the angels disobeyed the - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 10:52 AM
                                4. of course there is no command- ask the angels and they all say to worship God not Jesus ! - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 1:36 PM
                                5. No, the whole Bible is inspired, including Heb. 1:6. - Tomas on Apr 5, 1:52 PM
                                6. Tomas, that word "worship" there should be honored, revered - Kumag si Tomas on Apr 5, 2:08 PM
                                7. coincidentally, you were found to be a liar and you lied big! Right? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 2:52 PM
                                8. Judie is a big liar and he is bound to hell !! Rev 21:8, Judie- read and learn ! - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 6:25 AM
                                9. bring me to life. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:24 AM
                                10. Idolaters and all liars including Judie - their place will be in the lake of fire - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 2:32 AM
                                11. Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:02 AM
      2. YOU worship the Father, YOU worship Jesus but why don't you worship the Holy Spirit? - Kumag Ka on Apr 4, 2:53 PM
    2. Observer2, if you don't believe that the HS is God, then what is HS to you? - Michael on Mar 8, 5:29 AM
      1. he would say that the Holy Spirit is a man like Jesus because he gives directions to the - |Judie_84 on Mar 8, 10:51 AM
        1. I don't know what church Observer belongs to, but I have never heard - Tomas on Mar 8, 3:47 PM
          1. tomas, did i say the holy spirit is a man? - Observer2 on Mar 11, 2:33 PM
            1. Of course I would have been surprised if you did. - Tomas on Mar 15, 2:04 PM
              1. you say you are not sure if god or not. that's right, if not written, don't follow it. - Observer2 on Mar 15, 2:24 PM
                1. If not written then it is not God? There is no verse saying - Tomas on Mar 15, 4:11 PM
                  1. tomas, you must believe the bible what it wrote, not what it did not write. - Observer2 on Mar 18, 6:08 PM
                    1. I agree. And the Bible does not write that the Holy Spirit is not God, - Tomas on Mar 29, 6:38 AM
                      1. not written that i is not god? what a twisted logic his tomas has!! - Observer2 on Apr 2, 11:12 PM
                        1. I do believe what is written, but you believe also what is not written, - Tomas on Apr 5, 10:17 AM
                          1. Tom, believe only what is written- not what is NOT written - Kumag si Tomas on Apr 5, 1:40 PM
                            1. That's right, we should not be dogmatic about things the Bible does not - Tomas on Apr 5, 1:43 PM
                              1. Do not even talk about it if not written, Tom. - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 1:52 PM
                                1. We have to talk about it, to give the right doctrine that - Tomas on Apr 5, 2:04 PM
                                2. Do you want to discuss without any biblical basis? Then we have to guess, speculate etc, - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 6:32 AM
                                3. The Bible did not say that Jesus is not coming back... did you really say this makkabite? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:31 AM
                            2. Re: Tom, believe only what is written- not what is NOT written - Nom on Apr 5, 2:15 PM
      2. just stick to the issue, michael - Observer2 on Mar 11, 2:24 PM
        1. What I ask of you is related to the issue. So perhaps you can give your answer as well. - Michael on Mar 11, 8:43 PM
          1. so you now admitted there is no biblical basis calling the HS God. - Observer2 on Mar 15, 2:39 PM
            1. Be nice OBSERVER2. Don't put words into my mouth. You need to read carefully what I wrote. - Michael on Mar 15, 4:54 PM
              1. if there was any verse, why couldn't you cite it? - Observer2 on Mar 18, 6:14 PM
                1. Here are some verses, though not explicit. - Michael on Mar 19, 2:28 AM
                  1. your basis were "not explicit"? Thus vague and ambiguous that cannot be relied upon ! - Kumag Ka on Mar 19, 7:35 AM
                    1. Christians can't really get anything good from kumag ka! hehehe - |Judie_84 on Mar 20, 11:50 AM
                      1. Judie, regarding this KUMAG guy - Michael on Mar 20, 6:27 PM
                        1. keep your tongue in check and you earned his respect, kumag said - Observer2 on Mar 20, 11:26 PM
                          1. Go through all the exchanges we have Observer2 and see. - Michael on Mar 20, 11:28 PM
                          2. Talking to yourself again boredagain? Lol! - Nom on Mar 21, 11:56 AM
                        2. Michael FYI - Nom on Mar 21, 11:54 AM
                          1. No wonder I see a similarity. Tnx Nom. - Michael on Mar 21, 2:49 PM
                      2. michael just said the basis is unclear, vague so what else to prove, judie? - Observer2 on Mar 20, 11:23 PM
                        1. They are not vague. - Michael on Mar 20, 11:35 PM
                          1. Ha hahha Michael is begging that "not explicit" does not mean "vague". LOL - Kumag Ka on Mar 21, 3:33 PM
                            1. i can see michael is searching for a dictionary that says 'not explicit' - 0bserver2 on Mar 22, 11:16 PM
                              1. michael, what is the 'antonym' of 'explicit'? - Observer2 on Mar 24, 7:03 AM
                                1. HE hehe he Michael is pinned down, - Kumag Ka on Mar 26, 12:27 AM
    3. so it seems nobody worships the HS after all, they are now avoiding this issue. - Observer2 on Mar 21, 10:37 PM
      1. haha ha judie, aren't you tired escaping the issue? - Observer2 on Mar 24, 7:05 AM
        1. What verse in the Bible says he has to be worshiped if he's to be a person in the Godhead? - |Judie_84 on Mar 24, 7:45 AM
          1. right, there is no verse to worship the HS nor Jesus but - Observer2 on Mar 25, 11:16 PM
            1. lots of verses about worshiping Jesus. but you just don't want him to be worshiped. why - |Judie_84 on Mar 26, 12:01 AM
              1. Jesus didn't claim it, the apostles didn't preach it- where's your verse? - Observer2 on Mar 27, 12:09 AM
                1. and they bowed down and worshiped him - Matthew 2:11 - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 2:23 PM
                  1. LOOK WHO'S LYING NOW? KUMAG KA, REFUTE THIS POST! - |Judie_84 on Mar 28, 4:27 PM
                    1. those who worshiped him jesus called them hypocrites, vain worsippers!! - Observer2 on Apr 2, 11:18 PM
                      1. so you were caught lying and you just won't admit it? - |Judie_84 on Apr 3, 6:51 AM
                        1. you are indeed a HYPCRITE IDOLATER !! - Observr2 on Apr 4, 11:33 PM
                          1. you really won't admit that you're a liar, infidel? LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 7:15 AM
                            1. this hypocrite idolater is worshiping an abnormal god !! - Observer2 on Apr 8, 11:33 PM
                2. you are lying aren't you? read Zechariah 14:16-17 and you'll have another command - |Judie_84 on Apr 3, 7:54 AM
                  1. YOU are wrong again- read Psalm 46:7 to know that LOrd of Host is the Almighty God !! - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 1:58 PM
                    1. Jesus is the Lord of Hosts! Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Lord even of the Sabbath! - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 2:46 PM
                      1. Gof Almighty is the Lord of hosts and Judie has no answer. LOL LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 6:27 AM
                        1. Jesus, the Son of Man is the Lord of the Sabbath! - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:37 AM
                          1. In Psa 46:7, Ex 3:6, is Jesus the God of Jacob, Abraham, Isaac? - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 2:46 AM
                            1. the title God for the deity is used interchangeably for the Father and the Son (the Word). - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:37 AM
    4. Now you're asking for proofs that the Holy Spirit is God. Are you already convinced that - |Judie_84 on Mar 25, 12:27 AM
      1. like michael, you don't have any answer, just plain cheap salestalking. - Observer2 on Mar 25, 11:07 PM
        1. answer my question please. will you? - |Judie_84 on Mar 25, 11:55 PM
          1. Judie FYI - Michael on Mar 26, 12:28 AM
            1. hehehe. What did kumag ka win the title as the Most Devil Sent blogger here for? LOL - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 7:36 AM
          2. What question? That the theory that the Holy Spirit is God is baseless? - Kumag Ka on Mar 26, 12:32 AM
            1. Only two questions, here. Read it for yourself. - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 7:39 AM
              1. Jesus is a fellow creation of God, is your God a created being, Judie/eric? LOL - Kumag Ka on Mar 27, 12:23 PM
                1. what does his having been made Lord and Christ entail? what privileges/honor/glory/power/ - |Judie_84 on Mar 27, 2:35 PM
                  1. YOu can give him all the privileges and titles but never being God !! - Kumag Ka on Mar 29, 12:46 AM
                    1. Yes, and he also remains as God as declared by the Apostle John in John 1:1, 18. hehehe - |Judie_84 on Mar 29, 8:43 AM
                    2. 'Judie, please, don't honor the Lord Jesus as God. Please...' by Kumag Ka - hehehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 3, 7:58 AM
                    3. God gave Jesus more titles than anyone else ... but being God in inherent - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 12:30 AM
                      1. 'Please, don't honor the Son as God Judie, please?' by Kumag Ka - LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 7:17 AM
                        1. God's nature is inherent;- not given. LOL dont you understand that? DUmb! - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 1:59 PM
                          1. is it a light thing to be made Lord and Christ? have you heard of anyone aside from - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 3:00 PM
                            1. Re: is it a light thing to be made Lord and Christ? have you heard of anyone aside from - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 3:10 PM
                              1. Light or heavy, dude, God won't destroy His own words by creating another God !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 6:35 AM
                                1. the Lord is God, Jesus is Lord, therefore Jesus is God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:38 AM
                                2. Ellah, your little god does not have a son like our God. Don't answer back! LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:40 AM
                                3. Jesus said "your Father and my Father, my God and your God" - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 3:09 AM
                                4. "... of course excluding Judie whose God is abnormal." - by Kumag Ka, the friendly Muslim. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:27 PM
    5. backtothe issue, why don't you worhip the HS if is god, judie? haha ha no answer until now - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:49 PM
      1. if you don't want to worship him, don't. no problem. - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:36 PM
        1. and who among the seven spirits mentioned in revelation is this spirit, dude? - Observer2 on Apr 8, 11:36 PM
          1. he's not one of the seven spirits... - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 1:55 AM
        2. if it is god, then WHY nobody- not even the apostles nor angels- worship it? - Observer2 on Apr 8, 11:40 PM
          1. if they don't, do you want to? go ahead, worship the Holy Spirit if you want. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 1:54 AM
            1. so u admit the HS is an abnormal god that needs no worship? - Observer2 on Apr 9, 11:18 PM
              1. how? - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:28 PM
     
  7. TOMAS: (from a locked thread) "in the NAME of" refer to only ONE authority - GOD View Thread - Michael on Feb 19, 12:18 PM
    1. 3 authorities. All 3 are necessary. - Tomas on Feb 23, 1:58 AM
      1. Then it should have been "in the names of" Tomas. - Michael on Feb 23, 7:59 PM
        1. Sounds like you're talking about annihilationism - INCgoersGF on Feb 23, 10:57 PM
          1. INCgoersGF, are you referring to me or Tomas? - Michael on Feb 24, 5:03 AM
            1. I guess to both of us, we are both discussing annihilation, - Tomas on Mar 1, 7:20 PM
        2. No, name is the joint authority, not literal names. - Tomas on Mar 1, 7:18 PM
          1. Re: No, name is the joint authority, not literal names. - Michael on Mar 4, 5:37 AM
            1. about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Tomas on Mar 9, 3:50 AM
              1. Re: about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Michael on Mar 12, 9:32 PM
                1. More about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Tomas on Mar 15, 11:35 AM
                  1. Re: More about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Michael on Mar 15, 7:34 PM
                    1. Is Jesus enough? - Tomas on Mar 29, 7:53 PM
                      1. Re: Is Jesus enough? - Michael on Apr 3, 2:19 AM
                        1. What? The act of any of the 3 divine persons, are the individual acts of each person? - Tomas on Apr 5, 11:06 AM
                          1. Re: What? The act of any of the 3 divine persons, are the individual acts of each person? - Michael on Apr 9, 8:36 PM
                2. Continued here about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Tomas on Mar 15, 11:36 AM
                  1. Re: Continued here about God, Christ, salvation, life after death. - Michael on Mar 16, 10:50 AM
                    1. God, Melchizedek, life after death, lake of fire. - Tomas on Mar 29, 9:40 PM
                      1. Re: God, Melchizedek, life after death, lake of fire. - Michael on Apr 4, 3:08 PM
                        1. More about God, Melchizedek, life after death, lake of fire. - Tomas on Apr 5, 12:09 PM
                          1. Re: More about God, Melchizedek, life after death, lake of fire. - Michael on Apr 9, 7:55 PM
     
  8. Kumag Ka, in your Islamic religion, do you recognize the Lord Jesus as a prophet or not? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 6:57 AM
  9.  
  10. the best evidence for your stupidity is your having joined a Christian forum only to View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:51 PM
    1. The Muslim ‘Isa (Jesus) - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:54 PM
      1. how do you plead Kumag Ka a.k.a. bad observer2? You guilty of mocking the - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:10 AM
     
  11. Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:04 AM
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  13. atheists are eternal, one dies but he is replaced by 100 younger men. View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 10:34 PM
    1. they are an almost perfect species, they know a lot more than the average man, but they - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 10:41 PM
      1. so much for humility, turning he other cheek etc.. - mzplck on Apr 7, 1:55 AM
        1. hahaha. begging for better treatment when you mistreated/maligned G-d and the Good Book? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 2:00 AM
          1. god is waiting for you judie. - mzplck on Apr 7, 2:14 AM
            1. hahaha.aren't you jealous that i have such a Daddy? and you g-dless lot don't? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 2:16 AM
              1. Jealousy would imply that there's something you have that someone else wants. Not the case - WormJacob on Apr 8, 7:45 PM
            2. Psalm 14.... - jhenry69 on Apr 8, 4:01 PM
        2. G-d, treat me right! i've just declared myself as your personal enemy No. 1! lol - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 2:15 AM
        3. humane treatment for serial rapists/killers. don't harm them, they are not bad men but - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 3:47 AM
    2. eternal and ever-increasing. - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:27 PM
    3. Those who worship an abnormal god are also called atheist, right judie? - Observer2 on Apr 7, 7:54 AM
      1. you worship an abnormal god, don't you? so you also are an atheist! LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 9:03 AM
        1. jesus said god is spirit without flesh n bones but ur god is a human being!! - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:29 PM
          1. God is a spirit, the Holy Spirit is a surely a spirit, therefore He is God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:38 PM
            1. and JESUS is not a spirit but a human being - say that loud n clear, judie!! - Observer2 on Apr 8, 11:28 PM
     
  14. the best evidence for the Bible are the Jews (Israelites), the Christians and the Muslims. View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:18 PM
    1. Col Mr. Judie, 4 blood moons will occur on 4 Jewish Feasts in April 2014-2015 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 8, 6:16 AM
     
  15. don't you believe that the Lord is coming back? Kumag Ka? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:47 AM
    1. Muktar nectar? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:41 PM
    2. do you believe that? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:41 PM
      1. YES or NO? why don't you answer? Muktar mortar! - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:42 PM
     
  16. atheists, it's you who fired the first salvo. you have everything to lose if the Bible is View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:50 PM
    1. Actually, EVERYONE, except Christians,... - jhenry69 on Apr 6, 3:52 PM
    2. Actually what you're describing is Pascal's Wager, yet another fallacy - WormJacob on Apr 6, 8:18 PM
      1. hahaha, hope you already knew its name before you were born. what if your INC is true? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 10:23 PM
        1. you more inclined to believe in the last profit of eslam than the New Testament writers? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:24 PM
        2. when others read this thread between us, I bet they shake their head at your replies - WormJacob on Apr 6, 11:45 PM
          1. yes, because atheists are a special lot. they know better than the people of God. thanks - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 1:44 AM
          2. they might even say that atheists are more learned than Christians. hehe. - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 5:17 AM
    3. well, aren't those whose god is abnormal also called atheist, judie? - Observer2 on Apr 7, 7:50 AM
      1. yeahh, you're abnormal. no objection. hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 9:05 AM
        1. ha haha he could not refute his god is abnormal, what a pity! - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:25 PM
     
  17. atheists are the kind of people who would fight the Lord at his Second Coming! View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:18 PM
    1. all those prophecies about the Son coming back won't really happen, - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:59 PM
    2. God is disappointed at you judie.. He is waiting. - mzlplck on Apr 6, 4:56 PM
      1. hey, why is a sharp dude like you playing along with the Rev 7:1-3 Bible studies? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 5:09 PM
      2. Because Judie isn't done lamenting how inadequate her life is yet. She wants more promises - WormJacob on Apr 6, 7:21 PM
        1. how can you be helped wormie when you've already shot down the best evidence for G-d's - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 1:12 PM
          1. so the bible can be trusted simply by granting it the benefit of the doubt? - WormJacob on Apr 7, 1:50 PM
            1. i believe there is no evidence against the Lord's claim that he is going to give eternal - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 2:58 PM
              1. the bible makes the claims, therefore the burden of proof lies on those who believe in it - WormJacob on Apr 7, 4:59 PM
                1. Bible is about faith, not burden of proof falacy and physical truths. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 7:02 PM
                  1. faith: a belief not based on proof. That's not a solution, that's an excuse. - WormJacob on Apr 7, 7:21 PM
                    1. I dont know why you are so focused on the current Bible. Jesus did not own a current Bible - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 7:45 PM
                      1. is there anything else by which you base your faith on other than the current bible? - WormJacob on Apr 7, 7:58 PM
                        1. yes, The New Covenant. the New Covenant is more than a contract - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 8:52 PM
                          1. and where outside of the bible do you know about the new covenant? - WormJacob on Apr 7, 8:57 PM
                            1. covenants are not revoked even if one party is in disobedience - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 7, 9:00 PM
     
  18. Why am i an indoctrinee of INC? View Thread - mzlplck on Apr 5, 2:25 PM
    1. one thing to know you are not in the truth, another thing to be in the truth! - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 2:36 PM
      1. Judie, you remind me of this old joke - mzlplck on Apr 5, 4:20 PM
        1. what's the point of that joke? that Christians don't help those who are not of their - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 9:21 PM
          1. wow, not only do you remind me of the joke... - mzlpck on Apr 5, 10:20 PM
            1. help me MZLPCK please. i can't understand why the INC's are dying to get to heaven - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:22 PM
              1. and what does heaven look like Judie? Gates made of huge pearls? Streets of clear gold? - WormJacob on Apr 6, 2:36 PM
                1. i can't tell you how heaven looks like, not been there yet. Yehehhh! the atheists won't go - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:39 PM
                  1. if given the chance to tour heaven, would you grab it? but first you have to read the - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:59 PM
                2. I can almost see her holding rally placards.. - mzlplck on Apr 6, 2:58 PM
                  1. hahaha. i love atheists, they're the most intelligent people on earth. - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:01 PM
                    1. many atheists are going to heaven, if they switch sides! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:02 PM
    2. A very noble thing you're doing. - WormJacob on Apr 5, 3:37 PM
      1. The BIBLE is the AUTHORITY .. NOT the RELIGION that derives from IT - Eric on Apr 5, 3:41 PM
        1. The bible is the authority of fire breathing dragons too. - WormJacob on Apr 5, 5:58 PM
          1. no offense man, but you really were raised following the Manalista rules forbidding - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 5, 7:25 PM
            1. no offense taken. But fire breathing dragons were in the bible long before I was born. - WormJacob on Apr 6, 1:46 AM
              1. my point was different. scientists have explained the fire dragons in the Bible - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 1:59 AM
                1. the bottom line is in circa 2006, Erano Manalo (via Bien Santiago) made a declaration that - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 2:03 AM
                2. No, scientists did not explain fire breathing dragons. Nor did they find noah's ark. - WormJacob on Apr 6, 2:16 PM
                  1. yes, scientist have explained the fire breathing dragons and other Biblical stuff - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 3:41 PM
                    1. if you're not willing to share the info, then why are you talking about it? - WormJacob on Apr 6, 7:27 PM
                      1. because if I get into debating you, i would be diverted from my M.O. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 7:35 PM
      2. Christians are no match to the atheists who were the ones given the gift to understand the - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 3:53 PM
        1. they just 'nanny nanny pooh pooh' the believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 3:55 PM
          1. Judie do you have a point to make or have you run out of them by now? - WormJacob on Apr 5, 6:53 PM
            1. are pissed off when i tell you that you have no hope of eternal life while the Christians - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 9:12 PM
              1. I'm not pissed off at all. Are you upset that you cannot provide proof for your beliefs? - WormJacob on Apr 6, 2:00 AM
                1. in other words, you are a true bloodied atheist, you reject the best evidence we have for - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:37 PM
            2. point to make? run out of them? are missing the point? are you so clueless you can't grasp - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 9:45 PM
              1. Re: point to make? run out of them? are missing the point? are you so clueless you can't grasp - mzlpck on Apr 5, 11:10 PM
                1. so, no need for more dialogues to patch up our differences? LOL LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:41 PM
                  1. nope, judie you win. - mzlplck on Apr 6, 3:20 PM
                    1. hahaha. how is that? and atheists can make the world a better place to live in. - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:24 PM
                      1. you atheists only created g-d but you didn't create the universe and you surely don't own - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:28 PM
                      2. anything to help you get your eternal bliss and expedite the process - mzlplck on Apr 6, 3:29 PM
                        1. hehehe. you want Christians to go to heaven so g-dless people like you will populate the - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:36 PM
                          1. the height of your arrogance displayed! you really don't want G-d to have anything to do - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:39 PM
                            1. I am arrogant. You win. Anything else? Expedite your going to heaven already? - mzlplck on Apr 6, 4:19 PM
                              1. hahaha. is that an honest acceptance that you really don't have a case against Christians? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 6:07 AM
    3. Are you NOT scared to be in that CULT if JESUS should RETURN? - Eric on Apr 5, 3:40 PM
      1. Read the bible if you want to have a good scare, right? - WormJacob on Apr 5, 7:00 PM
        1. you have free will, you can make a fool of yourself by not believing the Bible. - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 9:37 PM
          1. wow... i mean wow.. - mzlpck on Apr 5, 10:36 PM
            1. the kool aid comes in all different flavors. Everyone bickers about how theirs tastes best - WormJacob on Apr 6, 2:08 AM
              1. i love kool aid especially if it's delicious. those made by the atheists don't taste that - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:54 PM
                1. Obviously judie is not aware of kool aid and reverend jim jones. - mzlplck on Apr 6, 3:06 PM
                  1. was the good reverend an INC then became atheist? how reverends like him do we have now? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:11 PM
                    1. how many reverends like him do we have now? - two? mz and wormie? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:12 PM
                2. Is modern day Israel god's nation then? So why haven't you moved there yet judie? - WormJacob on Apr 6, 3:14 PM
                  1. they won't take me in, i eat swine and they don't! LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 3:21 PM
                    1. Wormy, Col Judie got you exposed on modern Israel founded by atheist & anti-Semites - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 3:50 PM
            2. wow wowie, you aren't making him happy. hehehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 2:51 PM
    4. what are the 4 types of offerings of the USS Manalista church - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 6, 12:01 AM
     
 
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