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  1. judie, is the baby boy jesus god? View Thread - Observer2 on Apr 2, 11:19 PM
    1. why not? don't you want to worship Him when He was still a baby? - |Judie_84 on Apr 3, 4:11 AM
      1. so funny hahaha judie's god is a baby boy! and what can this baby boy do, grandma? hahaha - Observr2 on Apr 4, 11:37 PM
        1. the wise men visited and worshiped Jesus, the unwise Kumag Ka mocked him! LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 7:22 AM
          1. He was "honored" not worshiped, dude !! Nobody worships a child !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 7:01 AM
            1. i have shown you the proof but it seems that you didn't read it! hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:08 AM
              1. not worshiped, judie, he was honored. use ur common sense, - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:56 PM
                1. 'Hehe bhe yiu god really is abnormal.' by Kumag Ka - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:00 PM
                  1. so this abnormal god turned normal, he was circumcised !! LOL - Observer2 on Apr 10, 1:13 AM
          2. "We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:13 AM
            1. and have come to worship him. - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:45 AM
    2. JUdie's God is ABNORMAL- he called it "very God and very Man" but couldn't explain it. LOL - Kumag si Judie on Apr 5, 12:37 AM
      1. hahaha. 'If he is David's Lord, how then is he his son?' - |Judie_84 on Apr 5, 6:58 AM
        1. JUdie's God is ABNORMAL- he called it "very God and very Man" but couldn't explain it. LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 7:00 AM
          1. Tomas, see how your ally Kumag Ka mocks/insults the Christians' God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:18 AM
            1. Cry-baby Judie is running scared. LOL LOL - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 11:37 PM
              1. "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life." - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:53 PM
                1. Why, didn't Apostle Peter know who Jesus is? Read Acts 2:22 - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 1:44 AM
                  1. Jesus is both God and man. Very God of very God. Very God, very man. - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:25 AM
        2. one of the best explanations for the "very God, very man" concept. from the Lord himself. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:54 PM
          1. judie's so ashamed he didn't even showed us his explanation. lol - Observer2 on Apr 10, 1:19 AM
            1. Jesus' parable should have been enough to prove he is both God and man but you are not - |Judie_84 on Apr 10, 2:15 AM
              1. Judie is holding an empty bag- where's the magic word that Jesus is both God and Man? - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 1:38 AM
    3. and who can prove that the baby boy Jesus was God? - Kumag Ka on Apr 6, 7:02 AM
      1. who can't? - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 11:16 AM
        1. show proofs that the baby boy is god. what did he do or say to prove his worth? - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:58 PM
          1. he was worshiped by the Three Wise Men upon his birth. they came from a far country - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:06 PM
            1. not worshiped but honored, dude. what other proof aside from that? - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 11:36 PM
          2. Re: show proofs that the baby boy is god. what did he do or say to prove his worth? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:14 PM
            1. what did the baby boy perform to prove that he is God? - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 11:38 PM
            2. what did the baby boy perform to prove that he is God? - Kumag si Judie on Apr 9, 11:39 PM
              1. he laid in the manger and sucked his thumb, is that it? - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 11:56 PM
              2. He is God, no matter how you oppose His divinity. How is your little desert god? - |Judie_84 on Apr 10, 12:01 AM
              3. Judie's baby God is laid in the manger, sucking his small fingers... LOL LOL LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 1:46 AM
      2. and who can prove that the baby boy in the manger is God? - Kumag si Juday on Apr 22, 1:52 AM
        1. and who can't? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:07 AM
     
  2. is there no truth in development? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 4:38 PM
    1. we should believe the agnostic bart more than the author of the book of John, whoever he - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 5:10 PM
      1. LOL! wow do you hear yourself? You are debating yourself by weakening your argument - WormJacob on Apr 22, 12:33 AM
        1. how did you know that man? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 1:32 AM
    2. where are Dr. Bart's fans? care to answer? - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:11 AM
      1. is there no truth in development? computers are a development. is the computer not true? - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:13 AM
    3. before the computers, there was this stuff called typewriter. it has a keyboard almost - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:49 AM
      1. straw men really are very easy to prop up and then knock down, aren't they? - WormJacob on Apr 22, 2:38 AM
        1. how do you knock it down? do it. - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:05 AM
    4. still no answer from the opposite camp? - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:06 AM
      1. is there no truth in development, dr. bart? - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:15 AM
    5. "Jesus was not originally considered to be God in any sense at all." dr. bart - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 4:22 AM
     
  3. ozzy, are the muslims and hindus saved? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:57 AM
    1. Jesus is the ONLY way to God. He said so himself - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 22, 1:21 AM
      1. can you answer my question? what did you say in one of your posts about your muslim and - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 1:24 AM
      2. Just like Moses, Noah et al were the only way to salvation in their own time. - Kumag si Juday on Apr 22, 1:29 AM
        1. how did you know that man? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 1:31 AM
          1. ha hah ha ask your brain, dude, that is, if you have any. lol - Kumag si Juday on Apr 22, 1:38 AM
     
  4. where is honor in calling G-d a thief? Kumag Ka calls my God 'abnormal'. View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 6, 10:48 PM
    1. the bases for calling ur god abnormal was given- refute them all !! - Observer2 on Apr 7, 10:38 PM
      1. in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was fully God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:31 PM
      2. Where is honor in calling the Lord Jesus abnormal? - |Judie_84 on Apr 7, 11:32 PM
        1. Refute why your kind of God is called abnormal? - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 2:20 AM
          1. Such was not the case before he came down from heaven. Jesus was the Word who was with - |Judie_84 on Apr 14, 12:00 AM
            1. jesus god with god? then we have 2 gods - Observer2 on Apr 17, 11:30 PM
              1. yes you have two gods: your little desert god, and the profit who created him through his - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 12:53 AM
                1. Behave, Judie. Stop shitting your face- answer the question head-on !! - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 3:23 AM
                  1. yes. answer the question! hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:46 PM
    2. but why couldn't Judie refute that his God is abnormal? why? why? LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:41 PM
      1. yes, refute! refute! - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:46 PM
      2. but why can't Judie refute my charge that his god is abnormal? - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:38 PM
        1. can't refute! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:40 PM
      3. and judie continues to be wicked... pop - Observer2 on Apr 21, 10:05 PM
        1. he's good. so good. - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:09 AM
      4. Rev 21:8 - All liars including Judie will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur!! - Kumag si Juday on Apr 22, 1:22 AM
        1. yes, the lake of fire will burn. hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 1:25 AM
     
  5. Judie says his God needs "nourishment". If he won't eat, he's dead ! LOL View Thread - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 3:38 AM
    1. Re: Judie says his God needs "nourishment". If he won't eat, he's dead ! LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 4:36 AM
      1. Did the Lord God and his two companions eat the food set before them by Abraham or not? - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 4:37 AM
        1. ha haha see this poor Judie he reads literally what he sees in the bible - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 6:41 AM
          1. why can't it be literal? you mean when the Bible and they ate the food set before them, it - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 6:49 AM
            1. why can't it be literal? you mean if the Bible says ".... and they ate the food set - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 6:54 AM
              1. well, educating the dumbest guy is the most difficult task in this world, Judie. - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 7:15 AM
                1. show me a translation which says it was an angel who appeared to Abraham and not the Lord - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 2:23 PM
                  1. Your god does not have a son, right? - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 2:37 PM
                    1. Jesus said "your Father and my Father, my God and your God" - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:33 PM
                      1. yes, he's confused and doomed! yahh - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:54 PM
    2. Judie's God is also the God of Eric, Michael, Jhenry et al-- aren't they all abnormal? LOL - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:33 PM
      1. yes, you are. LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:36 PM
    3. judie's god needs to eat or else he dies. ha ha ha - Observer2 on Apr 21, 10:16 PM
      1. yes, because of lack of nutrients. hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:07 AM
        1. for lack of nutrients! hehehe. what is it a flower? LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 1:22 AM
     
  6. Jesus cannot guarantee positions in heaven, but why if he is God? View Thread - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:56 PM
    1. yes because you are not? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:26 AM
    2. if kumag ka decided to make a personal enemy of Jesus, is kumag ka man or not? - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:27 AM
      1. up, kumag ka... - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 5:48 AM
    3. If God why can't he do that? and Juday just swings away... with no answer.LOL - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:11 PM
      1. swings away! hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:43 PM
      2. but where is jesus 'very god nature' when he said he couldn't? - Observer2 on Apr 21, 9:59 PM
        1. he can, he can. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:09 AM
     
  7. In the Old Testament, the title "God" for the deity is used interchangeably for the Father View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:53 AM
    1. The Father is God, the Lord is God, Jesus is Lord, therefore Jesus is God. - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:56 AM
      1. Programmed response... - jhenry69 on Apr 9, 2:52 PM
        1. 1 Corinthians 3:23 - Christ is God's, hehehe. the closest one we got in relation to their - |Judie_84 on Apr 9, 3:04 PM
          1. Judie is corrupting the meaning of 1 Cor 3:23- it should say "Jesus belongs to God" !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 2:17 AM
            1. yes, you thrive in vague and ambiguous verses! you're the Most D Sent blogger here. you - |Judie_84 on Apr 14, 12:13 AM
              1. judie, don't corrupt the phrase - ' christ is god's means jesus belongs t o god'! - Observer2 on Apr 17, 11:26 PM
            2. LOL Judie has been caught corrupting or twisting the meaning of 1Cor 3:21-23 !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:47 PM
              1. Paging Tomas, pls confirm if Judie really has corrupted the meaning of 1Cor 21=23. - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:35 PM
                1. yes, the meaning, hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:37 PM
    2. "used interchangeably"? where's your basis, dude? - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 2:13 AM
      1. Yes, the titles God and Lord are "used interchangeably" for God and the Lord Jesus Christ. - |Judie_84 on Apr 14, 12:10 AM
        1. POint by point smashing of Judie's false beliefs. - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 3:32 AM
          1. if the Holy Spirit was not included in John 10:30 and you want Him included. you may just - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 6:29 AM
            1. the three are one but in john 1O:3O where's the HS? missing in action. lol - Kumag si Judie on Apr 18, 6:35 AM
              1. as i've said, you can include the Holy Spirit in John 10:30 if that's what you want. - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 6:41 AM
          2. smash your belief on your little desert god against his black jackstone which is enshrined - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 6:39 AM
            1. John 1O:3O did it say one and the same God, JUdie? Hey, don't run scared !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:48 PM
              1. i ran! i'm scared! hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:51 PM
                1. John 1O:3O- what does the context say, Judie? LOL LOL LOL - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:36 PM
                  1. it says, clap clap clap. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:37 PM
                    1. ha haha judie is deaf, dumb and blind !! - Observer2 on Apr 21, 10:13 PM
                      1. yes, maybe. LOL - |Judie_84 on Apr 22, 12:07 AM
     
  8. who is closest in relationship with the Father? is he a mere Man? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 12:00 AM
    1. If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" - hehehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 3:07 AM
      1. Whose Son Is the Messiah? - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 4:19 AM
    2. jesus said god is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit n truth - Observer2 on Apr 12, 6:39 AM
      1. read the question, answer it if you can. - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 11:09 AM
      2. Jesus, as the Word, was spirit, before he came down from heaven. - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 11:17 AM
        1. He was fully God before coming down on earth in obedience to the Father. - |Judie_84 on Apr 12, 11:26 AM
        2. Explain - cite verses- why the "word" is "spirit", Judie - Kumag Ka on Apr 13, 1:35 AM
          1. Why, what do you think of the Word who was God, was he flesh? - |Judie_84 on Apr 15, 6:38 AM
            1. JUdie You need to teach that WORD with GOD was a FACE to FACE relationship - Eric on Apr 15, 4:07 PM
              1. With him I speak face to face - |Judie_84 on Apr 16, 12:36 AM
            2. you said jesus is spirit- prove it, judie. - Observer2 on Apr 16, 1:03 PM
              1. i can't, i can't... - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:55 PM
                1. ha hah ha Juday's weeping he couldn't satisfy himself that Jesus really is spirit . LOL - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:30 PM
                2. ha hah ha Juday's whining he couldn't satisfy himself that Jesus really is spirit . LOL - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:31 PM
                  1. yes, she is. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:32 PM
      3. well, judie says jesus is spirit and man at the same time!! - Observer2 on Apr 17, 11:20 PM
    3. JUdie says Jesus is Spirit but does not know why... LOL - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:51 PM
      1. yes, he does not know why! no proof at all. no proof. - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:52 PM
        1. again Juday bites the dust. pity. lol - Kumag si Juday on Apr 21, 2:29 PM
          1. hehehe... yummy yummy.... - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 2:31 PM
     
  9. What is the Gospel? View Thread - Michael on Apr 15, 6:13 AM
    1. All are invited, to tell what Gospel they know about. - Michael on Apr 15, 6:18 AM
    2. the glorious news announced to mankind of salvation and victory over sin and death - |Judie_84 on Apr 15, 6:43 AM
      1. Can you tell us more about what you are saying here Judie? Tnx. - Michael on Apr 15, 8:16 AM
        1. here from the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) by Matt Slick - |Judie_84 on Apr 15, 12:37 PM
      2. JESUS was laden with the SINS of the ELECT.. NOT all as you infer or imply - Eric on Apr 15, 3:53 PM
    3. Tell us what you think the gospel is. - INCquisitor on Apr 16, 12:54 PM
    4. the copies of the gospels we have today are replete with alterations and errors - WormJacob on Apr 16, 3:14 PM
      1. Bart Ehrman must be your HERO - Eric on Apr 17, 11:49 AM
        1. hero? no. He just knows a lot more than you do about this stuff. - WormJacob on Apr 17, 2:25 PM
      2. in spite of the claims of Ms. Bart, i'd still trust that God, the all-Sovereign, is - |Judie_84 on Apr 17, 3:02 PM
        1. Shut your eyes, plug your ears, close your mind. It's the only way to keep believing. - WormJacob on Apr 17, 3:40 PM
          1. Doctorates are gained by MUSLIMS and ATHEISTS.. whats the point? - Eric on Apr 18, 1:26 PM
            1. So have you watched the lecture or are you just blowing smoke as usual? - WormJacob on Apr 18, 3:34 PM
              1. Still waiting for you apology as to Unicorns - ERic on Apr 19, 12:39 PM
            2. Sam Shamoun Crushed by Bart Ehrman (video link) - WormJacob on Apr 19, 8:18 PM
          2. come on man, Dr Ehrman is a regular in the Discovery Channel like Dr. Randall Price - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 1:31 PM
            1. Good one.. WORM is the poster child for CONTRADICTION Weekly - Eric on Apr 18, 1:36 PM
              1. contradictory like the Manalo men - Eduardo Manalo who is Bible preacher & Texas Oil Man - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 1:47 PM
              2. Awesome point except that I have no idea what you're talking about. - WormJacob on Apr 18, 3:30 PM
                1. hey man, Dr Ehrman is in the History Channel every week also - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 3:37 PM
                  1. I don't think I ever said I hated the discovery channel? - WormJacob on Apr 18, 3:43 PM
                    1. ok, you called Discovery Channel as an entertainment channel as opposed to science channel - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 4:51 PM
                      1. Dr. Ehrman is an authority on the bible. That doesn't change no matter where you see him. - WormJacob on Apr 18, 7:34 PM
                        1. I don't totally disagree with Erhman. Just sayin he's History Channel & Discover Regular - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 19, 12:33 AM
                        2. Jesus is an authority on the Bible and he said he is the giver of life and he gives it to - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:44 AM
                          1. "He is the authority on the Bible." i should say. i'm sure he knows a lot more than - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 2:41 AM
                            1. did Jesus or the apostles know the gospels would be compiled and published as the bible? - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 12:54 PM
                              1. why u asking kumag ka? hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:00 PM
                                1. no answer? just keep your mouth shut !! - Kumag Ka on Apr 19, 1:34 PM
                                2. yes. no answer! no answer! keep the mouth shut, hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:49 PM
          3. i've read books by ms. barth. viewes some videos of him. i've learned that he is not the - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 10:44 PM
            1. wormy, you, just like ms. barth does not have a future. you don't want any of it... - |Judie_84 on Apr 18, 11:11 PM
            2. so god's word is perfect, but the bible isn't? OK, that makes perfect sense. - WormJacob on Apr 19, 12:16 AM
              1. that's what you think. you're entitled to your opinion. keep dreaming man! - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:08 AM
              2. you sincerely believe Jesus would do that to a believer because he simply does not believe - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:10 AM
                1. think twice mocker! surely, for you, NO EXTENSION! NO EXTENSION! you have no life in you! - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:12 AM
                  1. you have no Christ in you. you don't believe in his deity. you are not a believer. - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:13 AM
                2. jesus would facepalm himself because of judie's ridiculous attitude to others - WormJacob on Apr 19, 1:25 AM
                  1. it only means one thing. you can't refute the doctrines being shown you here. you call - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:53 AM
                    1. woops, there you go again, pretending you're respectful. Is that how christianity works? - WormJacob on Apr 19, 1:59 AM
                      1. hahaha. the more you will rant for ms. barth. me not impressed, and not surprised either! - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 2:06 AM
                  2. you can't beat the chessplayer so you have to discredit her through her deportment or lack - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 2:03 AM
                    1. chess is a game, pretend you're a king. Same with religion, pretend you're always right. - WormJacob on Apr 19, 2:30 AM
                      1. it's better to be that way than to say the Bible is not reliable and that there is no G-d. - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 4:08 AM
                      2. behaving like i'm inferior to you because you are a non-believer is not in sync with - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 4:16 AM
                        1. is that what matthew 5:38-42 tells you about retaliation? Hypocrite indeed - WormJacob on Apr 19, 8:28 AM
                          1. compared to kumag ka who calls Jesus or God ABNORMAL and you who says the Bible is not - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 9:56 AM
                          2. do you quote the Bible only when you think it is favorable for you? - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 9:58 AM
                            1. I quote the bible to show your hypocrisy. And you continue to prove my point. - WormJacob on Apr 19, 11:33 AM
                              1. hehehe, i eat my pie, i succumb to humility. u r right and the Christians r wrong. does - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:04 PM
                  3. treat me nicely, i just said the Bible is not true and therefore there is no G-d. hehe - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 4:33 AM
              3. what made you so sure that Jesus whom you deride as untrue would say that to me? - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 10:00 AM
                1. If you can't figure out that simple answer yourself, you are helpless - WormJacob on Apr 19, 11:40 AM
                  1. whatever that means? i didn't really get what u were trying to say... - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:05 PM
                    1. Arguing from ignorance then? No surprise there. Still not humble either. - WormJacob on Apr 19, 3:15 PM
                      1. i still have to learn how to be humble before an atheist like you. you who preach the - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:17 AM
                  2. wormie, do atheists lose patience easily? - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:07 PM
                    1. do they feel bad when they argue with a guy and seem not to be making any headway? - |Judie_84 on Apr 19, 1:09 PM
                    2. Judie, do all Christians possess an overly proud attitude like you? - WormJacob on Apr 19, 3:32 PM
                      1. an atheist is telling me to be humble. to treat him nicely, is he begging me to be nice - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:24 AM
                        1. Maybe satan has a hold of you. Or maybe god has hardened your heart? Choose one. - WormJacob on Apr 20, 3:27 AM
                          1. you are more hypocrite, you claim the bible is not true yet you keep on pointing that to - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 5:41 AM
                            1. do you believe in the bible judie? If so, that's why i point to it. - WormJacob on Apr 20, 1:30 PM
                              1. you go your own merry way wormy. i go mine. you surely were out-debated as you say it. - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 4:13 AM
                                1. So judie can disobey Jesus so long as I'm worse than you? Ay yay yay - WormJacob on Apr 21, 11:43 AM
                                2. if i would stop talking to you... whose lose would it be? the Christian's or the - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 12:47 PM
                          2. hypocrite Wormy, how can a non-existent god harden someone's heart? - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 5:45 AM
                            1. ok, so you no longer believe in god? Judie is now an atheist? - WormJacob on Apr 20, 1:31 PM
                              1. i'm no longer interested in talking to you. we're going nowhere. you're starting to sound - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:01 PM
                              2. using a desperate man's tactic? twisting the opponent's words. - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:04 PM
                            2. Judie do you deny behaving unchristian like in this forum? - WormJacob on Apr 20, 2:21 PM
                              1. you can say what you think. but the fact remains that you can't get me to believe - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:32 PM
                                1. what's your best proof that the Bible is not reliable? may i ask you? - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:36 PM
                                2. biblical "facts" that are wrong, contradictions, the way it was compiled... - WormJacob on Apr 20, 2:40 PM
                                3. it may be G-d's way of not letting others come to him. sort of a camouflage so those who - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:52 PM
                                4. sort of hardening their hearts... - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:53 PM
                                5. so "god so loved the world" but he also camouflages the truth? Another contradiction. - WormJacob on Apr 20, 6:01 PM
                                6. i don't question G-d's ways. you always do or almost always. you don't know what you are - |Judie_84 on Apr 21, 4:54 AM
                              2. I "deny" christ in one way. You deny him also, in another way, by disobeying him - WormJacob on Apr 20, 2:37 PM
                                1. you are free to say what you want. just because you've learned that you were in a - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:48 PM
    5. Morality and the christian god - WormJacob on Apr 16, 8:23 PM
    6. .. - mzlplck on Apr 18, 12:38 PM
    7. .. - mzlplck on Apr 18, 1:24 PM
    8. .. - mzlplck on Apr 19, 2:25 PM
    9. The gospel is the doctrines necessary for salvation. - Tomas on Apr 19, 6:37 PM
     
  10. Hey sir emman, why don't you try a new approach on evangelical missions? View Thread - mzlplck on Apr 19, 4:33 AM
    1. INC was the true Church of Christ because the history proves it to be correct, - emmanuel on Apr 20, 5:45 PM
      1. us pickup drivin', gun rack owning, SEC football fans Rednecks don't believe you, Sir - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 20, 5:54 PM
    2. One of the truths the INCs don't teach. - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 11:01 PM
     
  11. wormy, don't you believe Jesus is coming back to earth to reign as the King, the Lord View Thread - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 2:58 PM
    1. what's your best evidence that Jesus is not coming back as "the King, the Lord Almighty"? - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 3:00 PM
      1. I don't make the claim that he's "coming back." You are. Where's your proof? - WormJacob on Apr 20, 3:13 PM
        1. it's wrong not to believe the Bible. it contains G-d's words. - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 3:21 PM
        2. it's wrong because you deprive yourself of knowing what is certain to happen in the future - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 3:22 PM
          1. based on what evidence do you support the claim that you know what is certain to happen? - WormJacob on Apr 20, 6:39 PM
            1. just the Bible, for now. So, for you, there is no truth that Jesus is coming back to judge - |Judie_84 on Apr 20, 10:32 PM
     
  12. WormJacob, do you believe that Jesus have existed on earth? View Thread - emmanuel on Apr 11, 9:00 AM
    1. Yes I think he existed. I also think the works attributed to him are exaggerated. - WormJacob on Apr 11, 12:30 PM
      1. What is your basis in believing to His existence? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 12:38 PM
        1. Notice that wormjacob did not say "I believe.." He said "I think.." - mzlplck on Apr 11, 3:09 PM
          1. He said, YES HE EXISTED. Read back. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 3:15 PM
            1. i guess you did not ready the wiki fully. - mzlplck on Apr 11, 3:21 PM
              1. Do you believe to Jesus existence? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 3:25 PM
                1. I think a person identified as jesus existed based on outside sources other than the lette - mzlplck on Apr 11, 3:43 PM
                  1. So, you believe Jesus existed. And do you believe that He was the Son of God? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 3:46 PM
                    1. you like twisting words don't you? can't blame you. thats how ministers make a living - mzlplck on Apr 11, 3:51 PM
                      1. Answer the question straight. Do you BELIEVE Jesus existed? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 3:56 PM
                        1. Dang! like talking to bots in the old yahoo chatrooms - mzlplck on Apr 11, 3:58 PM
                          1. Afraid of facing the truth. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 4:01 PM
                            1. i understand where you are coming from emmanuel - mzlplck on Apr 11, 4:07 PM
                              1. And the question was still UNANSWERED. Do you BELIEVE Jesus existed. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 4:13 PM
                                1. i think i would have to write slooooowly... - mzlplck on Apr 11, 4:27 PM
                                2. Do you believe what you are thinking? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 4:32 PM
                                3. do you believe what Im thinking? - mzlplck on Apr 11, 5:23 PM
                                4. Do you believe the Jesus in the Bible? - emmanuel on Apr 11, 5:26 PM
                                5. There is a person whose identity is named jesus which is mentioned in the Synoptic Gospels - mzlplck on Apr 11, 5:32 PM
                                6. If you believe to Jesus, you must believe to the existence of God. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 5:39 PM
                                7. Big jump buddy.. - mzlplck on Apr 11, 5:55 PM
                                8. If you believe I exist, then you must believe that your god does not exist. - WormJacob on Apr 11, 8:23 PM
                      2. Actually, INC discourages thinking when it comes to matters of faith - mzlplck on Apr 11, 7:16 PM
                        1. actually, INC discourages thinking when it comes to matters of faith. - mzlplck on Apr 18, 12:36 PM
                          1. do you socialize or congregate with those Filipinos CRY BABIES how do you put up with that - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 1:23 PM
                            1. mateo (former choir) said that if the whole congregation is not crying.. - mzlplck on Apr 18, 1:33 PM
                              1. ok. but do you want to jump off the Cliff when those Filipinos start crying in chapel? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 3:17 PM
                                1. I sometimes cry, cant help it, because my ears are hurting from all the crying - mzlplck on Apr 18, 3:28 PM
                                2. ok man. but do you want to fire a revolver in your head so you won't hear CryingFilipinos? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 3:32 PM
                              2. when you hear the Crying Filipinos in the chapel, do you say this? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 18, 4:57 PM
        2. Logical fallacies being used by you: Loaded question, black-or-white, composition/division - WormJacob on Apr 11, 8:42 PM
          1. You have to provide the passage wormjacob, lamsa version for the benefit of Sir Emmanuel. - mzlplck on Apr 11, 10:36 PM
          2. sir emmanuel, your response on CWS inquiry would be much appreciated - mzplck on Apr 12, 8:29 PM
          3. sir emmanuel, dont go into hibernation mode just yet - mzlplck on Apr 13, 12:32 PM
          4. sir minister emmanuel, wake up. its been 3 days already. - mzlplck on Apr 15, 12:46 AM
            1. Emman is an INC minister? - WormJacob on Apr 16, 12:51 PM
              1. Not sure, but im hoping - Mzlplck on Apr 16, 2:19 PM
                1. .. - Mzlplck on Apr 20, 7:04 PM
              2. The MOTIVATION is spreading GOD's LOVE to lost sheep like you - Eric on Apr 18, 1:33 PM
                1. You most likely believe that, but you have no way supporting your claims - WormJacob on Apr 18, 3:50 PM
                  1. INC is a CULT devoted to the ALMIGHTY $$ Dont compare me to THEM! - Eric on Apr 19, 2:15 AM
     
  13. Yet another truth for the INC to consider regarding FYM, and get out of the deception. View Thread - Michael on Mar 30, 6:22 AM
    1. UP - Michael on Apr 10, 1:33 PM
      1. the Big Four sent Facebook a telegram confirming the fact that felix shouted, - |Judie_84 on Apr 10, 11:44 PM
    2. Astonishing faith of the INC member - HiJo on Apr 11, 10:33 AM
      1. INC never ceased to build houses of worship and maintaining the beauty of it. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 10:52 AM
        1. INC ceased building chapels in the US. Why does god need money anyway? - WormJacob on Apr 11, 12:26 PM
          1. WormJacob, God didn't need the money. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 12:46 PM
            1. So, INCgod didn't need the money... - jhenry69 on Apr 11, 2:40 PM
              1. They may do anything seemed ungodly to you. - emmanuel on Apr 11, 2:43 PM
            2. You haven't answered why INC ceased building chapels in the US. You said they never ceased - WormJacob on Apr 12, 1:29 PM
              1. California in not the whole world. All other places continued. - emmanuel on Apr 20, 6:11 PM
    3. There is not even one who bears witness for FYM. What he claims of himself is not true. - Michael on Apr 12, 7:43 AM
    4. So, what reason have you to believe FYM and follow his every command? - Michael on Apr 12, 7:44 AM
    5. Believe and follow rather, Jesus Christ, who is true, whom God and more, bears witness to. - Michael on Apr 12, 7:48 AM
     
  14. Today- An offer not to refuse from the godfather View Thread - hijo on Apr 20, 8:19 AM
    1. oh God what if the female congregant is single & got pregnant & is daughter of INC Deacon - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 20, 12:59 PM
      1. Will blow over - hijo on Apr 20, 2:07 PM
        1. the Manalo church seems to have a lot of single unmarried Mothers - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Apr 20, 5:39 PM
     
  15. Does King David have a human "Lord"? View Thread - Michael on Apr 5, 12:44 PM
    1. If Jesus preexisted, so it was not just prophecy, - Tomas on Apr 5, 12:54 PM
      1. Sorry Tomas, but you are not saying anything concrete with regards my question. - Michael on Apr 5, 2:07 PM
        1. OK, I will try to clarify my answer even more by answering - Tomas on Apr 12, 1:19 PM
          1. Let me try to clarify the point of my question in the OP. - Michael on Apr 13, 10:03 AM
            1. I guess you are aiming at the point that he is David's - Tomas on Apr 20, 3:54 AM
    2. UP - Michael on Apr 10, 1:29 PM
     
 
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