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  1. INCMEDIA. " IAM ONE CAMPAIGN" Watch one black lady make SIGNOF THE CROSS...LOL View Thread - ERic on Oct 8, 2015, 3:21 PM
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  3. "We're not a cult" is as wrong as it gets. The INC is a cult. View Thread - Capt. Seabird on Oct 3, 2015, 5:21 AM
    1. You think INC EVER was a TRUE earthly representation of GOD? - Eric on Oct 3, 2015, 12:05 PM
    2. INC was NEVER was NEVER TRUE as it has man-made DOCTRINES - Eric on Oct 3, 2015, 1:53 PM
      1. Every church has some man-made doctrines due to misunderstanding the Bible. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 2:52 PM
        1. CHURCH being the BODY is NOT referring to any earthly LOCAL congregation like JW says - ERic on Oct 3, 2015, 8:05 PM
          1. I agree with you, the biblical church is all the repentant believers, all the saved - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 8:54 PM
      2. I once did. I no longer can - Capt. Seabird on Oct 3, 2015, 4:41 PM
        1. Sorry that you got harmed by INC. They should behave better, like true Christians should. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:45 PM
    3. we are NOT a cult! We are simply a controlling, secretive corrupt CHURCH! - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 6:10 PM
      1. nice try fake Markus logi in ja4age. no originality - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 10:09 PM
        1. no originality? You talking about all your weekly brainwashing sessions? - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 10:25 PM
        2. we are the one true church. give us more money. don't get expelled or be damned to hell. - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 10:25 PM
        3. you mean that sort of originality? - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 10:26 PM
        4. don't cry! its ok you can have some cheese with your whine. - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 10:27 PM
    4. so why do you care so much if it is or not? me thinks you envy hihihihihi - wilson on Oct 8, 2015, 2:44 AM
      1. I have zero envy for the heartless Sanggunian you support - Capt. Seabird on Oct 8, 2015, 11:09 AM
     
  4. Funny, a certain j4age is using my name and Wilson hehehe View Thread - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 5:28 PM
    1. and Sis Lori as well. - iamonewithGod on Oct 8, 2015, 1:57 AM
     
  5. Proof of: EVM's Iglesia - Police Connivance View Thread - Sis Lori on Oct 6, 2015, 7:45 PM
    1. you look green ;) - wilson on Oct 6, 2015, 8:06 PM
    2. Sis Lori, seriously, would you be happy if someone influential recommends u 4 promotion? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 11:50 PM
      1. Ooo a promotion within the cult! Now life is perfect! - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 12:17 AM
        1. Drool pa more Sis Lori. Keep your jealousy reach its summit - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:02 AM
          1. Markus, that SisLori ia4age poster was not me. - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 3:43 AM
            1. I have no idea it was not yours. And the Bible tells me to avoid slanderers - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 5:29 AM
              1. guess I will have to depart this forum never to return. Good bye! - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 10:41 PM
    3. Sanggunian corruption has permeated the government of Pnoy Aquino - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 3:59 AM
      1. I agree with you the real Sis Lori. Go to Congress with a placard - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 5:30 AM
      2. Actually, I think I will take it up with my pal EVM. Maybe we can change things. - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:20 PM
        1. Seems I am being referred to mister santos to clear things up. keep posted. - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 6:06 PM
          1. Santos says he will deliver by Christmas. Oh wait. It's illegal to celebrate Christ. Oops! - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 10:28 PM
     
  6. Sucking up to Manalo View Thread - Hijo on Oct 6, 2015, 12:35 PM
    1. jealousy will get you nowhere lolz - wilson on Oct 6, 2015, 2:26 PM
      1. Hijo, it's not your time and money, so what's the fuzz? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 2:42 PM
        1. Whats your opinion on Manalo having - hijo on Oct 6, 2015, 3:40 PM
          1. he does? prove it ;) good luck bwahahahahaha - wilson on Oct 6, 2015, 3:41 PM
            1. been there. done that. if you don't have anything else to say, boo hoo hoo for you. - jodlas on Oct 6, 2015, 3:56 PM
              1. obviously no one cared nor believed. otherwise, you'd be out there enjoing you 1 - wilson on Oct 7, 2015, 1:42 AM
                1. umm am I supposed to care if I'm famous? I'm not evm trying for Guinness records lol. - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 2:02 AM
                2. I'm not into material fame like your little cult. - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 2:05 AM
            2. Prove? - iamonewithGod on Oct 6, 2015, 6:02 PM
              1. Where is the mansion? The blogger wrote that he only heard about it. - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 6:12 PM
                1. I have nothing against using a plane to visit other brethren - iamonewithGod on Oct 6, 2015, 6:37 PM
                  1. Iam1withYahweh, we can afford to buy a plane,why not? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 11:48 PM
                    1. Owning a plane and trying to keep it secret is what is disturbing. - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 12:18 AM
                      1. Oh we know about the plane for a very long time - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 2:42 AM
                    2. But you are a paid goon of the wig wearing evm so good job dork sticking up for him. - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 12:19 AM
                    3. I have the right to ask because that is my offering. - iamonewithGod on Oct 7, 2015, 1:28 AM
                      1. And now that you know where your offering is going, what would you do? - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:00 AM
                    4. And yeah, remain to be gullible. - iamonewithGod on Oct 7, 2015, 1:31 AM
                      1. Iam1witYahweh, don't offer anymore if I were u - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:01 AM
                        1. Markus be like: - iamonewithGod on Oct 7, 2015, 3:41 PM
                    5. Re: Iam1withYahweh, we can afford to buy a plane,why not? - John Snow on Oct 7, 2015, 1:27 PM
          2. If there was a Mansion,... - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:57 PM
            1. OK if proved Manalo lives in $USD 25Million mansion - HiJo on Oct 7, 2015, 10:30 AM
              1. Yes Hijo, I will leave - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:37 PM
              2. me too, but only if we can find another cult to join. - wilson on Oct 7, 2015, 5:38 PM
    2. sa araw - ago on Oct 6, 2015, 6:18 PM
     
  7. Vatican to sell Over 50 billion dollars in securities. Gold reserves that exceed those of View Thread - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 4:52 PM
    1. There is good money in religion - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 8:05 PM
    2. It is not your money anyways, so what's the fuzz - Coffeemaker on Oct 7, 2015, 5:28 PM
      1. exactly. what concern is it of yours what the catholic church does and why should we care? - jodlas on Oct 7, 2015, 5:30 PM
    3. We are jealous of the Catholic Church because our cult doesn't have as much money! - Wilson on Oct 7, 2015, 5:31 PM
      1. oops I meant our church. Sorry eddie. - Wilson on Oct 7, 2015, 5:31 PM
     
  8. BEWARE! A certain SisLori (ia4age) has taken over my account View Thread - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 3:34 AM
    1. So everyhing that happens to you is INC's fault? - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 5:31 AM
      1. I admit it. We inc are at fault for EVERYTHING! I just can't take it anymore! - Markus on Oct 7, 2015, 3:18 PM
      2. Yeah I agree with you Markus, it's just too much to take! We should all quit the inc! - Wilson on Oct 7, 2015, 3:19 PM
      3. Who do you think will be angry for exposing Iglesia frauds? - Sis Lori on Oct 7, 2015, 3:20 PM
     
  9. San Francisco Superior Court View Thread - Alex on Oct 5, 2015, 8:10 AM
    1. Up. You are definitely on to something here - Capt. Seabird on Oct 5, 2015, 5:26 PM
      1. Up, up and away. - Markus on Oct 5, 2015, 7:05 PM
        1. What can you say about this? - iamonewithGod on Oct 5, 2015, 7:49 PM
          1. Of course he can't say squat, he's a mental veggie - Capt. Seabird on Oct 5, 2015, 11:41 PM
            1. Capt Seabird, why are you so interested in the money of INC? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:03 AM
              1. Those were the offerings I gave. I have every right to know where they went - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:06 AM
              2. Also the fact you're a troll who doesn't know my real stance tells me you are misguided - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:07 AM
                1. OMG, you were not forced to offer. Unless you entered the Church with wrong motive - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:17 AM
                  1. Folks have been expelled recently for not giving enough offerings - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:18 AM
                    1. Oh really? First time to hear that - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:22 AM
                    2. I find this hard to believe - White guy former member on Oct 6, 2015, 8:36 PM
                      1. It's a very new thing, I haven't gotten reports of it until this year - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 9:05 PM
                  2. Secondly, wrong again. I was an officer who has first hand accounts of corruption. - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:19 AM
                    1. Aye aye Captain. Sue the Church. Release the Kraken! - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:33 AM
                      1. Money ain't fixing the crap I'm having to go through as a result of their garbage - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:35 AM
                      2. Ah yes! Sue again! - iamonewithGod on Oct 6, 2015, 10:07 PM
          2. He won't saying anything interesting. He's just a troll - White guy former member on Oct 6, 2015, 8:28 PM
            1. He's not winning any cases lol - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 9:02 PM
    2. Read all 3 pages. Chicago Title is the big one of the 3 - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:24 AM
      1. 2 of 3 occurances were them - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:26 AM
        1. ohhh ahhhh wow ohhhh ahhhhh ok wow huh huh yup ok lolz - wilson on Oct 6, 2015, 9:23 PM
          1. Still can't accept the truth? Still going to troll, eh? Wilson, you're wasting time - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 10:32 PM
     
  10. US INC LOCALES HURTING FOR MONEY View Thread - Ann on Oct 5, 2015, 7:25 PM
    1. Desperate times. - iamonewithGod on Oct 5, 2015, 7:49 PM
      1. Well don't offer. You are only talking about the silent minority - Markus on Oct 5, 2015, 8:03 PM
        1. Well.. - iamonewithGod on Oct 5, 2015, 8:07 PM
    2. cry yourself to sleep lolz - wilson on Oct 5, 2015, 8:08 PM
      1. spoiled brats throwing tantrums lolz. ignore em - wilson on Oct 6, 2015, 2:25 PM
    3. Agreed.. - underarmour on Oct 5, 2015, 9:32 PM
      1. There's some evidence right there - Capt. Seabird on Oct 5, 2015, 11:45 PM
        1. Oh thank God Seabird you're not the one covering the rent coz i know you'll brag about it - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 12:37 AM
          1. The offerings of the brethren are being misused, Markus - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:08 AM
            1. Since you already left a long time ago, what are u trying to prove? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:14 AM
              1. Others have the right to leave the sham of a cult. Hypocrisy has taken over the INC - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:18 AM
                1. The exit door is always open! Everyone is free to leave. Hope your tribe increase - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:44 AM
                  1. You are way too naive, Markus - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 3:56 AM
                    1. Well I'd rather break my parent's hearts than to deprive myself of happiness - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 4:34 AM
                      1. Apologies...can't help myself... - underarmour on Oct 6, 2015, 4:40 AM
                      2. And that's how we know you are a scumbag like evm. - Jodlas on Oct 6, 2015, 2:12 PM
                        1. That's how good you are Jodlas. Calling names. - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 6:14 PM
                          1. Oh was that your name too? just sinking to your level so you can understand. - jodlas on Oct 6, 2015, 7:07 PM
                            1. Menemis. Menemis McGyver - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 7:48 PM
     
  11. inc not paying its bills - see the link View Thread - jodlas on Oct 5, 2015, 2:21 PM
    1. Jodlas, saw this too at Kelly Ong's fb page. Keep the lies coming - Markus on Oct 5, 2015, 4:41 PM
      1. what's your point? oh I forgot you just have to say stuff for no reason. - jodlas on Oct 5, 2015, 9:22 PM
        1. Oh Jodlas, i didn't know that you are that so gullible - Markus on Oct 5, 2015, 10:27 PM
          1. INC not paying bills is actually a confirmed deal - Capt. Seabird on Oct 6, 2015, 12:08 AM
            1. Kelly Ong's version of Meralco" bill - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 1:33 AM
              1. Yeah, keep on kissing their asses. - iamonewithGod on Oct 6, 2015, 2:18 AM
                1. Doesn't give you the creeps when you say asses and your name has God on it? - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 2:34 AM
                  1. At least we are being true to ourselves. - iamonewithGod on Oct 6, 2015, 3:02 AM
                    1. Oh really? I can feel your nose here. - Markus on Oct 6, 2015, 3:04 AM
     
  12. fallen angels, who is your leader, Angel Manalo or Jun Samson, or Florida? you're not even View Thread - wilson on Oct 2, 2015, 6:33 PM
    1. Anyone is better than that fat bald evm guy. - jodllas on Oct 2, 2015, 11:31 PM
      1. Anyone that can turn on his own family.....sheesh. And you mons are one with him LOL. - jodllas on Oct 2, 2015, 11:32 PM
      2. Please don't be prejudiced against fat bald guys. My father was fat and bald. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 2:56 PM
        1. and how do you know your father wasn't saved? because he wasn't inc? what a joke. - jodlas on Oct 3, 2015, 7:22 PM
          1. No, being in INC is not required for salvation. The biblical church is all repentant - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 10:00 PM
    2. We are Anonymous. We don't need leaders. Looking worse by the day, wilson - Capt. Seabird on Oct 3, 2015, 1:37 AM
      1. that's why you're all lost lolz - wilson on Oct 3, 2015, 4:38 PM
        1. Wrong, wilson. You're just mad because you can't track us - Capt. Seabird on Oct 3, 2015, 4:44 PM
        2. you are the lost idiot here! you are one with evm cause you are lost! - Nom on Oct 4, 2015, 3:35 PM
          1. Amen! Being "one with" the mother abusing fat man is something to be proud of eh wilson? - jodlas on Oct 4, 2015, 3:38 PM
            1. Wilson be like: - iamonewithGod on Oct 5, 2015, 4:05 AM
            2. Re: Amen! Being "one with" the mother abusing fat man is something to be proud of - Nom on Oct 5, 2015, 11:45 AM
          2. Wilson do you abuse your mother too? Is that why you are so in agreement with evm? - jodlas on Oct 4, 2015, 3:39 PM
            1. The best question I've seen so far! - iamonewithGod on Oct 5, 2015, 1:40 AM
        3. saw on facebook, former ministry student, leader of vigil - no clue on bible verse lolz - wilson on Oct 5, 2015, 3:12 PM
          1. seen in service. no one reading bibles. no clues about anything. lolz. - jodlas on Oct 5, 2015, 9:24 PM
          2. seen in INC Central office, leader who always hide behind Edwil Zabala, lolz - ASP on Oct 5, 2015, 9:52 PM
          3. Really, that is all you have? How about the placard that stated the 229 million airbus? - Peter on Oct 5, 2015, 11:19 PM
     
  13. Confirmed Matt Pareja caught smuggling money is expelled. View Thread - Vulda on Oct 4, 2015, 11:02 PM
    1. Really? - underarmour on Oct 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
      1. It was announced in a cirrcular - Vulda on Oct 5, 2015, 1:27 AM
        1. When was the circular read? - underarmour on Oct 5, 2015, 1:55 AM
          1. It was a couple of weeks ago. - Vulda on Oct 5, 2015, 2:10 AM
            1. hmmm.... - underarmour on Oct 5, 2015, 2:39 AM
              1. NOO!! I miss understood! I'm wrong! - Vulda on Oct 5, 2015, 3:40 AM
                1. No worries... - underarmour on Oct 5, 2015, 4:54 AM
            2. LuL this website got even worst. - TX2k15 on Oct 5, 2015, 4:25 PM
              1. what drug are you on dude? - jodlas on Oct 5, 2015, 9:24 PM
                1. The kind that turns his grammar into mush. - Peter on Oct 5, 2015, 11:17 PM
     
  14. Greatest achievments of the INC View Thread - HiJo on Oct 5, 2015, 6:00 AM
    1. and yours is posting anonymously on this forum :D - wilson on Oct 5, 2015, 3:13 PM
      1. So u should have no problem providing ur SLYPE id then to us.. RIGHT? - Eric on Oct 5, 2015, 3:36 PM
        1. you first ;) - wilson on Oct 5, 2015, 4:31 PM
          1. You're the one making the accusations, be the MAN and provide first or r u scared of INC? - Eric on Oct 5, 2015, 5:01 PM
     
  15. Markus, who told you Angel wanted to usurp power? View Thread - Sis Lori on Oct 4, 2015, 2:15 PM
    1. Don't believe everything Angel feeds you. Angel lied to you. - Markus on Oct 4, 2015, 2:35 PM
      1. yes you don't stop talking to your mother because she upsets you. evm has no excuse. - jodlas on Oct 4, 2015, 2:50 PM
      2. And how is it that you know if Angel is telling the truth or not? Are you God? - jodlas on Oct 4, 2015, 2:55 PM
        1. all markus has is an assumption of a gullible INC! - Nom on Oct 4, 2015, 3:15 PM
        2. And Jodlas are you God to know too that Angel is telling the "truth" - Markus on Oct 4, 2015, 5:07 PM
          1. you are the one that says Angel is lying. Prove it or shut up! - jodlas on Oct 4, 2015, 9:31 PM
            1. Jodlas, until now you have not seen his lies? Go back to his Youtube video - Markus on Oct 5, 2015, 1:30 AM
      3. who are you to tell us that it is not the way it goes, huh? - Nom on Oct 4, 2015, 3:08 PM
    2. yikes. where'd you get this fairy tale lolz - wilson on Oct 5, 2015, 3:16 PM
     
  16. 10 months non attendance at worship service in Texas View Thread - Hijo on Oct 5, 2015, 11:54 AM
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  18. INCMEDIA. Now cites Jehovah Witnesses NWT bible? A NEW LOW? View Thread - Eric on Sep 30, 2015, 1:09 AM
    1. It seems nothing is beneath them... - francis on Sep 30, 2015, 2:38 AM
      1. Granville Sharp Rule INC cant dispute. so they resort to JW perversion - Eric on Sep 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
      2. How about these translations - Wayne on Oct 2, 2015, 2:57 AM
    2. INC references - hoopdedoo on Sep 30, 2015, 3:45 PM
      1. Or even a Children's bible... - francis on Sep 30, 2015, 10:12 PM
    3. Then again, the INC has been using the catholic bible for a century now - peter on Sep 30, 2015, 11:09 PM
      1. If the NWT Bible is better on some verse, or if a Catholic Bible is better on some - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:34 PM
        1. Who says they are BETTER? YOU a Jehovah Witness? - ERic on Oct 3, 2015, 8:03 PM
          1. No way, they are apostate. Their translation is better in some verses, - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 9:06 PM
    4. The NWT is highly inaccurate too. Makes you wonder... - Capt. Seabird on Oct 3, 2015, 4:46 PM
      1. On some things it is inaccurate, and even biased. The worst think is they stick - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:58 PM
     
  19. The latest on EVM's atrosities against his mother and siblings View Thread - Sis Lori on Oct 1, 2015, 7:10 PM
    1. Hey Markus or Wilson, aren't you interested in EVM's atrosities? - Sis Lori on Oct 2, 2015, 4:11 AM
    2. Atty Trixie Angeles threatened by Sanggunian - Sis Lori on Oct 2, 2015, 4:44 AM
      1. You mean his siblings who want to usurp power and incited rebellion and discord? - Markus on Oct 2, 2015, 5:24 AM
        1. I guess they saw corruption and dictatorship at the top, so they wanted to rebel - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:12 PM
        2. Markus, who told you EVM's siblings wanted to usurp power? - Sis Lori on Oct 3, 2015, 5:42 PM
    3. wahahahaha. "Kelly Ong"? You believe someone who won't even use his real name? loser. - wilson on Oct 2, 2015, 6:18 AM
      1. Troll. - iamonewithGod on Oct 2, 2015, 6:20 AM
      2. Re: wahahahaha. "Kelly Ong"? You believe someone who won't even use his real name? loser. - Real name? U mean like your buddy markus? LOL on Oct 2, 2015, 12:55 PM
      3. You mean like felix ysagun? - jodllas on Oct 2, 2015, 11:33 PM
        1. lol! you've got him there Jodlas! an angel dump his father's surname! very funny indeed! - Nom on Oct 3, 2015, 3:25 PM
          1. If someone dumps his father's surname publicly, then he is not hiding behind - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 6:19 PM
     
  20. ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. View Thread - wilson on Oct 3, 2015, 3:50 PM
    1. Yes, that's how much we love the Lord our God. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:55 PM
      1. o yeah? who's your God, Jesus or his Father? - wilson on Oct 3, 2015, 4:36 PM
        1. The Father is God for sure. But God might also include other persons. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 5:03 PM
     
  21. How do true worshipers worship the Father in spirit and truth? View Thread - INCquisitor on Oct 3, 2015, 4:38 PM
    1. We true worshipers worship the Father in our spirit and in truth, as we seek - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:50 PM
     
  22. Pope called "HOLY FATHER" and FYM "last messenger": I get SAME nauseous feeling View Thread - Eric on Sep 26, 2015, 11:18 AM
    1. Yes, it is both wrong, but not an error costing them salvation. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 6:58 PM
      1. Really? Outline how one is ELECTED to be SAVED!! - Eric on Sep 27, 2015, 1:15 AM
        1. One is elected, if he is foreknown that he will accept the gospel and repent - Tomas on Sep 27, 2015, 1:46 AM
          1. The bible doesnt say NOT to SMOKE or take RAT POISON> you need a VERSE to tell u that? - Eric on Sep 27, 2015, 11:32 AM
            1. It is clear in verses like 1 Cor. 3:16-17 that we should not harm our bodies. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:35 PM
          2. The POPE claims to be the CLOSEST thing to GOD. is that BIBLICAL or HERESY? - Eric on Sep 27, 2015, 11:33 AM
            1. It is not biblical, he is wrong in thinking he is the representative of Christ on earth, - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:41 PM
          3. You say CHRIST .. CAME in the FLESH? Came from WHERE? - Eric on Sep 27, 2015, 11:34 AM
            1. He descended from heaven into Mary, and later was born. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:43 PM
     
  23. So many people conned in last few days either by CATHOLIC Church or INC? FRIGHTENING View Thread - Eric on Sep 28, 2015, 11:45 AM
    1. As long as they are saved, no big harm done. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:58 PM
     
  24. I like the INC teaching, also held by most Protestants, that Mary did not remain a virgin. View Thread - Tomas on Sep 20, 2015, 1:52 AM
    1. wtf? - Coffeemaker on Sep 21, 2015, 1:22 AM
      1. Wonderful teaching. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:33 PM
    2. Joseph and Mary were members of the church that Christ built. - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 2015, 1:58 AM
      1. wtf? - Coffeemaker on Sep 21, 2015, 8:44 AM
      2. I dont think they would have even read them? - HiJo on Sep 21, 2015, 10:24 AM
        1. I don't think apostle Paul only wrote epistles to preach. - INCquisitor on Sep 21, 2015, 4:40 PM
          1. Jesus must have preached it. There is a lot he preached that is not in the Bible. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:40 PM
      3. What kind of contraceptive did the church recommend Mary and Joseph? - Coffeemaker on Sep 21, 2015, 6:49 PM
        1. Lucky Mary not stoned to death on fathers doorstep - Hijo on Sep 22, 2015, 1:38 AM
          1. Joseph knew she was still a virgin, so he gladly took her as wife. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:46 PM
      4. Makes me wonder about Noah's sexual needs while sailing on his boat - Coffeemaker on Sep 22, 2015, 9:39 AM
        1. Now I am wondering about Angels sexually needs - Hijo on Sep 22, 2015, 11:33 AM
          1. If he is saved, then surely he is not fornicating. Or if he is married, then - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:53 PM
        2. Maybe an extra sheep onboard? - Hijo on Sep 22, 2015, 11:36 AM
          1. The laws revealed to Noah were probably similar about sexual purity - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:56 PM
            1. And drinking of the wine was made drunk, and was uncovered in his tent. - Coffeemaker on Sep 28, 2015, 8:39 PM
              1. I think at that time God had not revealed a new law to Noah, that drunkedness - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:51 PM
        3. The ark of Noah is just a symbolic story, a parable. But anyway, Noah was married, - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:49 PM
          1. Hmmm, so his covenant with God is also symbolic? - Coffeemaker on Sep 28, 2015, 8:36 PM
            1. The mention of the flood in the covenant was symbolic, but the laws revealed to Noah - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:53 PM
          2. There are threads you HAVE NOT answered yet that I made for YOU - ERic on Sep 28, 2015, 9:46 PM
            1. If I see them, I will answer. I will look for them. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:54 PM
     
  25. Had Christ appeared prior to his birth by Mary? Here's the clue View Thread - Wayne on Sep 22, 2015, 6:48 AM
    1. are you talking about His pre-existence or His 2nd coming on the Judgment Day? - Dolor on Sep 22, 2015, 7:31 AM
    2. Good verse to show he did not appear to people in his preexistence. - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 8:19 PM
      1. How do you then explain John 1:18 "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son..." - |Judie_84 on Sep 27, 2015, 2:00 AM
        1. If that were how the verse goes, it would be contradictory, since we know - Tomas on Sep 27, 2015, 2:25 AM
          1. Hebrews 1:8 " FATHER calls the SON.. GOD! Another copyist ERROR? - Eric on Sep 27, 2015, 11:20 AM
            1. In Greek it is correct. But most English translations mistranslate it. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:44 PM
      2. Obviously, people who are teaching that Christ had appeared - Wayne on Sep 30, 2015, 1:25 AM
        1. No, not a false Christ, just a little error about the true Christ. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:45 PM
     
  26. Double faced Francis shakes Obama's hand then turns and stabs him in the back View Thread - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 4:56 PM
    1. Who cares what the POPE does? why u posting what ANOTHER false religion does? - ERic on Oct 1, 2015, 9:40 PM
      1. because I want to and you can't make me stop ;) - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 11:01 PM
        1. Yes wilson the transvestite is a baby. You can't make him stop LOL. - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:16 PM
    2. Where did Francis stab Obama in the back? - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 3:30 PM
     
  27. you ONE WITH EVM morons share his bunions and prostate problems too? View Thread - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:20 PM
    1. We know wilson and markus are gay ass kissers of evm the unholy wigbearer. - Jodlas on Oct 2, 2015, 12:58 PM
      1. We don't have to stoop down on your level Jodlas - Markus on Oct 2, 2015, 3:11 PM
        1. Oh my goodness, Markus is caught mouthing a dick! - Sis Lori on Oct 2, 2015, 5:03 PM
          1. That's where you are good at Lori coz you can't even cite a damning evidence against the - Markus on Oct 2, 2015, 6:00 PM
    2. Such Vile Language - ahnony234 on Oct 2, 2015, 7:28 PM
      1. Hey Jodlas and Sis Lori, I guess we are one with vile languages - Markus on Oct 2, 2015, 8:16 PM
        1. Yep. Good to see that you know it. - jodllas on Oct 2, 2015, 11:30 PM
     
  28. calling Edmund Legaspi. Tell us your story. Prove you're not with Samson/Florida... View Thread - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 6:51 PM
    1. Has he released a video? - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 7:33 PM
      1. ksp ka pre. hindi kaw ang tinatanong - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:31 PM
        1. Nice evasive nonsense response - White guy former member on Oct 2, 2015, 1:36 AM
        2. e ikaw ano? e di KSP din, mangmang na idolater! - Nom on Oct 2, 2015, 7:50 AM
    2. Guy already said to respect his wishes and LEAVE HIM ALONE - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 8:30 PM
      1. isa pang kulang sa pansin hihihihi - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:32 PM
        1. Ang mga tao ay itak scarred dahil sa ito basura, wilson - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:45 PM
    3. edmund legaspi, is it true you destroyed/damaged church property? - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:33 PM
      1. ugok, nakikisawsaw ka sa nagtatanong kay Legazpi! KSP ka ano! - Nom on Oct 2, 2015, 7:52 AM
    4. edmund legaspi, is it true you destroyed/damaged church property? - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:33 PM
    5. is it also true you became a minister hoping you'll be assigned to US only and NOT remotes - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:34 PM
      1. wilson, true that you are a gay transvestite that has no friends and that's why - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:18 PM
      2. you are here, because we actually talk to you? - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:18 PM
      3. Guy left a good job to do the minister nonsense - White guy former member on Oct 2, 2015, 1:37 AM
    6. if you're not Edmund Legaspi, shut up and get out! - wilson on Oct 2, 2015, 6:19 AM
      1. the idiot idolater is still blaberring! mangmang na bobo at duwag! - Nom on Oct 2, 2015, 7:49 AM
     
  29. The Word Is Out, The INC Santos Admin has a weakness and can be taken down. View Thread - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:04 PM
    1. Many INC Members are afraid to talk, but not giving Special Offering will help. - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:15 PM
      1. Circumvent INC Sanggunian until they starve financially - Alex on Sep 30, 2015, 3:49 AM
    2. You're teaching a doctrine contrary to God's doctrine. prepare for God's curse. - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:28 PM
      1. btw, I doubled my offerings ;) so there - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:28 PM
        1. Good luck in filling up the tummies of EVM and Co. ;) - iamonewithGod on Sep 30, 2015, 6:07 AM
      2. In the Bible, we give offerings to God, not to Lamborghini car - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:45 PM
    3. Offerings for Chapel maintenance only... No to Special Offerings to Santos Admin - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:49 PM
      1. that's completely and directly OPPOSING what the Administration taught. - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:55 PM
        1. Wilson, you are not a minister, ur not even a member...???? - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:57 PM
          1. is he going to be the administrator of your new church? what would you call your church? - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 12:50 AM
          2. Vincent Florida was suspended many times over because of stealing the offering of INC - Markus on Sep 30, 2015, 8:58 AM
            1. I don't believe you because theft of offering is an expellable offense - Capt. Seabird on Sep 30, 2015, 5:59 PM
              1. Capt Seabird, why don't you ask Vincent Florida? - Markus on Sep 30, 2015, 8:59 PM
              2. Capt Seabird, i made a mistake. Yup Vincent Florida was expelled bec of theft offeing - Markus on Oct 1, 2015, 2:43 AM
                1. You are saying he wasn't expelled because of refusing to read circular? - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 7:48 PM
                  1. Exactly. Plus there is no proof Vincent Florida stole offerings - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 8:27 PM
                    1. what's teh point now? Florida quit. that's all there is to it. let him build his own churc - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:35 PM
                      1. The point is simple: Rom. 2:21-24 - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 8:40 PM
                        1. Calling us liars but you lying with revisionist history - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 8:41 PM
                          1. bleeding heart cares too much about history. cry some more lolz - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:54 PM
                            1. Its not just me here who wants the truth, attention whore - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:41 PM
                              1. Also, the INC is doomed to REPEAT history if you want my honesty. - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:47 PM
                              2. you wouldn't know truth if it hits you in the face lolz - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 11:00 PM
                                1. Go back to sucking on EVM like the idolater you are - Capt. Seabird on Oct 2, 2015, 12:55 AM
                      2. Don't be obtuse - White guy former member on Oct 2, 2015, 1:34 AM
      2. Only 85% of Local Offerings Goes to the Locale - underarmour on Sep 30, 2015, 1:40 AM
        1. franchise fee - hoopdedoo on Sep 30, 2015, 3:47 PM
    4. The admin tracks all members offferings - Peter on Sep 30, 2015, 7:23 PM
      1. Hey Peter, no one was expelled for not giving offerings - Markus on Sep 30, 2015, 8:56 PM
        1. So they should think about their personal game? - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 8:09 PM
    5. I already had my offerings cut - iamonewithGod on Oct 1, 2015, 5:43 AM
      1. F9..Lagak..Annual Thanksgiving...cut that one... - underarmour on Oct 1, 2015, 6:07 AM
        1. Yep, actually all of them. - iamonewithGod on Oct 1, 2015, 9:11 AM
          1. How about F1...the pouch offering - underarmour on Oct 1, 2015, 7:35 PM
            1. I'm giving 50 pesos before as an offering.. - iamonewithGod on Oct 1, 2015, 10:50 PM
     
  30. fallen angels, where do you attend worship service? View Thread - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 1:43 AM
    1. Who taught or commanded you to "attend worship service?" - INCquisitor on Sep 29, 2015, 2:23 AM
      1. When people agree to gather to praise and worship God, is it evil and sinful? - Michael on Sep 29, 2015, 9:07 AM
        1. When people teach for doctrine the commandments of men, thats evil and sinful. - INCquisitor on Sep 29, 2015, 10:23 PM
    2. Is that all you can say after being unable to defend your so-called faith?(read: IDOLATRY) - iamonewithGod on Sep 29, 2015, 3:03 AM
    3. Yes dont miss one - Hijo on Sep 29, 2015, 4:14 AM
    4. this question is for the fallen angels, or those recently expelled for rebellion. - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 2:30 PM
      1. Rebellion on what? EGM said almost all his workers are corrupt! - Nom on Sep 29, 2015, 3:30 PM
      2. FALLEN angels? Cite scripture where church members are called ANGELS? - Eric on Sep 29, 2015, 4:19 PM
      3. btw: where are your fellow stooges? - iamonewithGod on Oct 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
    5. Of course ACTIV wants that Info for an inquisition visit - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 8:37 PM
    6. Where anyone attends services is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Go fly a kite. - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:19 PM
     
  31. USMO response to this weekends rally at the USMO View Thread - peter on Sep 29, 2015, 11:03 PM
    1. keep giving interviews and posting on facebook in due time you'll slip and libel and then - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:24 PM
      1. ...SUED? ...IS IT ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY..??? - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:26 PM
        1. is money all you can think about? not all lawsuits is about money in case you didn't know. - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:29 PM
          1. No, actually Rommel San Pedro said he will sue me for everything I am worth. - Peter on Sep 30, 2015, 7:36 PM
            1. well, if you're not commiting a crime you shouldn't scared. lolz - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 11:52 PM
              1. You don't understand lawsuits - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 7:36 PM
    2. WE ARE CALLING ALL INC USA MEMBERS TO STAND UP - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:25 PM
      1. I'M ONE WITH EVM! COME AT ME. - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:30 PM
        1. I AM ONE WITH GOD AND CHRIST not a MAN - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:36 PM
          1. did God and Jesus place an administration to take care of the church? btw, you're lying... - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:40 PM
            1. I can give you many names of USA INC Ministers... - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:42 PM
              1. good! make me a list and post it here. bilis! - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:43 PM
                1. Corrupt ministers? lets start. - Peter on Sep 30, 2015, 7:20 PM
                  1. what's corruption did they do and where's your proof? be detailed and provide copies for.. - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 8:23 PM
                    1. and DON'T FORGET TO PROVIDE YOUR REAL NAME AND WHERE TO CONTACT YOU ;) - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 8:24 PM
                    2. They are corrupt as they continue to work for, support and defend a corrupt organization - peter on Sep 30, 2015, 11:05 PM
                      1. let's see your evidence. :) - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 11:59 PM
                        1. Of course ACTIV wants that Info for an inquisition visit - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 6:45 PM
                          1. in other words, you have no evidence lolz. - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 6:48 PM
                            1. ACTIV actively tries to get info on members going against the cult. Think again. - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:40 PM
                  2. YOU FORGOT TO LIST EVM! Shame on you :) - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:12 PM
          2. That comment by your resident minister is silly - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 7:41 PM
      2. hide? good move. lolz - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:31 PM
        1. After what the corrupt INC Sangunnian are capable of, I would hide - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:39 PM
          1. i understand. coz you are all cowards ;) - wilson on Sep 29, 2015, 11:43 PM
            1. you call us Cowards??? But we are still alive - Member of Reformed Iglesia Ni Cristo USA. on Sep 29, 2015, 11:46 PM
              1. You need a competent specialist for your severe paranoia. - Wayne on Oct 1, 2015, 3:54 AM
            2. WE are cowards? How about YOU give YOUR ADDRESS to us then? Come on brave one. - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:13 PM
        2. Why did the USMO not place their names, or affix a signature to those expulsion letters? - Peter on Sep 30, 2015, 7:17 PM
          1. Saw a copy of the letter - Capt. Seabird on Sep 30, 2015, 7:27 PM
            1. And addressing those as Mr/Ms/Mrs shows that they just don't care. - Peter on Sep 30, 2015, 7:28 PM
              1. no name is necessary. plus, if you hate the church so much you should rejoice that you're - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 8:26 PM
                1. Call us cowards yet Mr. San Pedro is a huge coward himself. Hypocrisy at its finest - Capt. Seabird on Sep 30, 2015, 11:15 PM
                  1. you slipped admitted you were never an INC - wilson on Sep 30, 2015, 11:53 PM
                    1. Clearly you're just a troll - iamonewithGod on Oct 1, 2015, 5:17 AM
                    2. ACTIV troll, you fail to realize I was one of your own - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 6:38 PM
                      1. Straight from one of my ministerial lesson books - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 6:44 PM
                        1. make up your mind! am I a minister, or an ACTIV? lolz - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 6:49 PM
                          1. Never once I called you a minister, illiterate fool - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 7:25 PM
                            1. ahhhh. the post you replied to bwahahahahaha - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 8:56 PM
                              1. Attention whore, leave at once - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:39 PM
                        2. if you were in a ministerial class, I was with the Russian KGB lolz - wilson on Oct 1, 2015, 11:03 PM
                          1. stupid troll thinks he is smart. Whatever. Try again. What's your address? - jodlas on Oct 1, 2015, 11:15 PM
                  2. Not sure San Pedro is a coward. - White guy former member on Oct 1, 2015, 7:51 PM
     
  32. Something that could help others along View Thread - Capt. Seabird on Sep 15, 2015, 11:05 PM
    1. There are also other resources on the E&SN Site - Capt. Seabird on Sep 15, 2015, 11:14 PM
      1. Up. I can't be the only one who suffered - Capt. Seabird on Sep 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
        1. Up AGAIN. Its ridiculous useful info is being buried - Capt. Seabird on Sep 23, 2015, 5:59 PM
          1. Yes, INC has become a Christian cult, with plenty of saved people, but led by - Tomas on Sep 26, 2015, 7:26 PM
          2. I WILL keep upping this if I have to. - Capt. Seabird on Oct 1, 2015, 9:46 PM
    2. Thanks Capt. Hope others can reverse brainwashing too - NoMoCultDrama on Sep 16, 2015, 3:05 PM
     
 
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