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  1. Judie's God is abnormal- he prays to God (Luke 6:12) ! God praying to another God? View Thread - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 8:35 AM
    1. God Jesus prayed to God? Why, dude, why? Is he really an abnormal God? - Kumag si Judie on Jun 8, 11:59 AM
      1. that's right Judie. better keep ur mouth shut than open it and confirm - Observer2 on Jun 8, 10:37 PM
    2. I can see Judie's running scared complaining to her boss, the devil ! - Kumag si Juday on Jun 9, 11:40 AM
     
  2. a new doctrine is being proposed here, courtesy of kumago. hahaha View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jun 8, 4:44 AM
    1. which is better? "God raised Jesus through Jesus !" or the Cabinet-god doctrine? hahaha! - |Judie_84 on Jun 8, 4:46 AM
    2. Jesus couldn't raised himself up, WhY? He couldn't- only God can do that !! - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 8:30 AM
      1. "God raised Jesus through Jesus !" - is that the better doctrine kumago? hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jun 8, 10:55 AM
    3. Jesus couldn't raised himself up, WhY? He couldn't- only God can do that !! - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 8:30 AM
    4. WHY IS Judie's God abnormal? His God has legs, arms, he eats or else he dies. LOL LOL LOL - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 8:31 AM
      1. kumago's Cabinet-god. hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jun 8, 10:54 AM
      2. Well JUdie's God is a man- powerless without God !! - Kumag si Judie on Jun 8, 11:56 AM
        1. how powerful is a Cabinet-god? 2 to 3 horsepower (HP)? hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jun 9, 5:51 AM
    5. was there really a need to invent kumago's Cabinet-god? hehe - |Judie_84 on Jun 9, 5:52 AM
     
  3. Jude, read and learn ! The One True God is not like your abnormal God ! View Thread - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 2:49 AM
    1. Judie's God is Spirit and Man at the same time- ha haha tell that to the marines, dude ! - Kumag si Judie on Jun 8, 12:02 PM
      1. judie this time needs another spank so he can recharge his brain. he he he - Observer2 on Jun 8, 10:35 PM
     
  4. Dod Jesus claim to be God? No. Judie is claiming it in his behalf. LOL View Thread - Kumag si Juday on Jun 8, 8:50 AM
    1. Judie claims Jesus claimed it- where, what verse? Ha hahaha - Kumag si Judie on Jun 8, 11:58 AM
     
  5. Why I am an INC member View Thread - dugyot on Sep 26, 5:17 AM
    1. Brother, You have sinned - Bro. Danny on Sep 26, 6:56 PM
      1. Let's Not Judge Anyone - Jeremiah on Sep 27, 3:04 PM
        1. why not? - misled on Sep 27, 6:26 PM
    2. I can't blame you! - Sony on Sep 26, 10:24 PM
    3. A little courage - Glenn Cessor on Sep 28, 1:17 AM
    4. Thank you for... - misled on Sep 28, 5:22 AM
    5. Take it from me BOY - Satan on Sep 28, 11:23 AM
    6. You hit the nail right on the head (nt) - Coffeemaker on Nov 3, 9:55 PM
      1. i wonder you losers always hit me even though Im not a hotty - Nail on Nov 4, 2:26 AM
      2. wow you bump a thread so old than your grandpedopapa - so many time in your hand on Nov 4, 2:28 AM
        1. Old but more prevalent than ever.... - Coffeemaker on Nov 4, 11:11 AM
          1. so digging threads from nineteen forgotten is really fullfilling - duh on Nov 4, 3:56 PM
            1. Fulfilling as calling anyone a pedophile crossdressing homo-faggots? (nt) - Coffeemaker on Nov 4, 7:17 PM
              1. YeaHh, he is a homophobic. Do you know gays deserved to be in heaven? - Eliseo Soriano on Nov 5, 5:45 AM
    7. Why I am not an INC member - Jason on Nov 4, 1:16 AM
      1. Why I am not an INC member? thats because Im an ADD member - Crossdressing Homo-Faggots on Nov 4, 2:25 AM
        1. ANOTHER BASTARD STOLE MY IDENTITY! THIS IMPOSTOR SHOULD BE HANGED W/ ERAP !! - Kunyo C Tacio on Nov 4, 3:53 PM
    8. UP for Kuwie the Ball-Less Enuch Monk - Tumang2k on Oct 13, 7:55 PM
    9. MR DUGYOT:"WHY I'M AN INC MEMBER" - PROMDI FORReAST on Jun 8, 6:59 AM
     
  6. for kumago, his god looks likes a cabinet. no face, head, arms, legs, etc. lol View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 3:03 PM
    1. does that cabinet-god of yours kumago have partitions inside it? - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 3:04 PM
      1. i presume his cabinet-god does not have a son, hehe. - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 3:05 PM
    2. a new doctrine by kumago: "the Cabinet god", hahaha - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 3:12 PM
    3. Does God have a face, arms, legs? Ha haha this Jude needs to go back to kinder school. lol - Kumag Ka on Jun 8, 2:41 AM
      1. how big is your Cabinet-god kumago? a formless god kumago? - |Judie_84 on Jun 8, 2:44 AM
    4. Pity, this dude is not even aware of Luke 24:39, John 4:24. Poor shit. - Kumag Ka on Jun 8, 2:47 AM
     
  7. Tomas, where is the verse which says the Father will rule in the Millennium as "the King, View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 2:54 PM
    1. Zech. 14:9 for example. - Tomas on Jun 7, 3:53 PM
      1. so, by then, what happens to the Lordship of Jesus? it would be hidden? - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 4:01 PM
        1. or be taken away from him? What? - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 4:01 PM
          1. The Hebrew text says in that day there will be one Yahweh. - Tomas on Jun 7, 4:12 PM
            1. so two Lords, one Yahweh and the Lord Jesus? like Ps 110:1 "The Lord to my lord..." - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 6:02 PM
              1. Exactly. The New Testament quotes that verse as - Tomas on Jun 7, 6:13 PM
                1. so therefore Zechariah 14:9 is false? "On that day there will be one Lord..." - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 6:18 PM
                  1. In Hebrew, on that day there will be one Yahweh. - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:01 PM
      2. you keep on insisting that the Father is the one who is coming down to rule, you have - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 6:13 PM
        1. No way, I keep insisting both will come, not just the Father, - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:21 PM
     
  8. "Stop! Stop! We ran out of virgins!" lol. guess who said that? View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jun 7, 2:19 PM
    1. I haven't heard of Muslims believing in a gatekeeper of heaven. - Tomas on Jun 7, 4:18 PM
     
  9. Bible passages View Thread - HiJo on Jun 5, 10:54 AM
    1. Yes, people look to the bible for morality and conveniently ignore the horrors - WormJacob on Jun 5, 11:53 AM
      1. Some people seem to want to squeeze a confession from God. hehe - |Judie_84 on Jun 5, 12:34 PM
        1. No confession from god needed. Just an honest evaluation from those who tout the bible - WormJacob on Jun 5, 3:36 PM
          1. Wormy, here's an accepted concept you would know if you grew up in a Church that is not - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 4:02 PM
            1. so you're saying that according to the bible, reading it motivates one to sin? - WormJacob on Jun 5, 7:38 PM
              1. what you characterize on what I said is Not what I said - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 8:34 PM
                1. Then you changed the subject. Regardless of the motivator of sin, it still exists. - WormJacob on Jun 5, 8:49 PM
                  1. Dude, you don't get it. Who tend to be the most successful criminals in today's society - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 8:53 PM
                    1. who is the biggest Pervert in California and made $2 billions this week. Paul talked about - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 8:57 PM
                      1. If god doesn't like perverts then why are they around? Omniscience + mercy= perverts? - WormJacob on Jun 5, 9:10 PM
                        1. Felix Manalo is known for founding INC and the Rosita Trillianes rape story - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 10:39 PM
                          1. Dude, the Holy Scriptures are dangerous for some. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 5, 11:11 PM
                        2. the existence of perverts is limited and they will certainly come to an end. - |Judie_84 on Jun 5, 11:51 PM
                          1. true. in the meantime Wormy may run into pervert Ministers & Head Deacons in INC church - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 12:23 AM
                      2. BIGGEST CALIFORNIA PERVERT JUST GOT $2.0 Billion - PROMDI FORReAST on Jun 6, 1:16 AM
                        1. Sterling was dating V Stiviano & other girls 50 years younger. He did a Rosita Trillianes - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 1:28 AM
                        2. Why does Donald Sterling have to pay taxes from his $2Billion profit of Clippers sale - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 7, 2:51 PM
                  2. look for that merciful god in any other religion and tell us when you find it. - |Judie_84 on Jun 5, 11:46 PM
              2. So you're looking for a perfect Holy Book, so to speak. Where can you find one? What book - |Judie_84 on Jun 5, 11:43 PM
          2. No inconvenient passage or passages from the Holy Book could forfeit the fact that God - |Judie_84 on Jun 5, 11:39 PM
            1. You present a logical fallacy. There is more to life than looking to promises of old books - WormJacob on Jun 5, 11:54 PM
              1. are the prophecies in that ancient book empty? how? - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 12:12 AM
              2. "In fact, there are people who live perfectly normal lives without these books, bible or - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 12:26 AM
                1. name one person you've met personally who currently lives immortal? - WormJacob on Jun 6, 1:24 AM
                  1. Christians have that hope of eternal life. - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 10:47 PM
              3. Gosh Wormy, America would not be around for your benefit but for - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 1:06 AM
                1. you can try to twist the subject around. My arguments still stand. - WormJacob on Jun 6, 1:36 AM
                  1. Wow, you really look down on God-believing people. But hey, Erano Manalo turned INC toward - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 1:54 AM
                  2. Wormy, are you very mad at God because Manalo Family suckered you & your family into - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 1:58 AM
                    1. You know very well I'm not mad at an imaginary god. - WormJacob on Jun 6, 11:37 AM
                      1. God is real. His name is Jesus. You are like Manalistas always saying the word "Bible" - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 5:58 PM
                        1. Don't use word "bible"? Where did you hear about Jesus? TMZ??? - WormJacob on Jun 6, 9:01 PM
                          1. now you are sounding like a sheltered 18-year old. Jesus did have New Testament in hand - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 10:55 PM
                            1. LOL I meant to say Jesus had no New Testament Bible. He only had Torah Scrolls when He was - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 7, 2:46 PM
                  3. ok. so, as usual. you are questioning the way God runs his universe. you want God to do - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 2:37 AM
                    1. So you don't like it when someone questions? You sound like INC Admin - WormJacob on Jun 6, 11:31 AM
                      1. I very well see your point. You want to dictate on God. you sound more knowledgeable - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 1:19 PM
                        1. hahaha. he knows better than God whose very existence, he is even questioning. - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 1:38 PM
                          1. Colonel Mr Judie. Wormy says you sound like INC Administration & Eduardo Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 6, 6:01 PM
                            1. and i'm not a fan of the Cock from the East who supposedly studied at the Pacific School - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 10:55 PM
                        2. An omniscient god who hates sin yet allows it to exist? Not exactly the smartest - WormJacob on Jun 6, 6:39 PM
                          1. a time is coming when sin will be prohibited, when sinners will readily be punished. - |Judie_84 on Jun 6, 10:51 PM
    2. Did God say the Jews have to invent the SCAN Brigade ? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 7, 2:43 PM
     
  10. Inspirational INC! View Thread - HiJo on Jun 2, 7:06 AM
    1. Yes, INC has some doctrine errors, but so do all other good churches. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:20 AM
    2. Colonel Hijo, have you ever been Frisked by the SCAN Brigade? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 7, 2:40 PM
     
  11. INM Brainwashing - Right from the start View Thread - I.N.D. on May 28, 3:47 PM
    1. What's the Tagalog for Seig hel! ? - jhenry69 on May 28, 5:57 PM
      1. We have discussed Joseph Goebbels propaganda tactics several times... - James on May 28, 6:06 PM
        1. And if you check out INCMedia... - jhenry69 on May 28, 7:04 PM
      2. Fuhrer Manalo would excommunicate these children - I.N.D. on May 28, 6:18 PM
        1. I.N.D. of Topix right? Please to see you here - Capt. Seabird on May 28, 7:44 PM
          1. Happy to be here - I.N.D. on May 31, 11:19 PM
      3. You need to learn German a little. It is Sieg heil, - Tomas on May 31, 8:53 AM
      4. my USAF comrades says Sieg Heil in Tagalog is Aba Ginoong Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 1, 12:13 AM
    2. I.N.D., they praise Eduardo, but don't worship him. - Tomas on May 31, 8:56 AM
      1. you are spinning the facts. My USAF comrades say every INC sermon will say everyone has to - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 31, 11:56 AM
        1. Well, your USAF comrades are not telling you truth. - Tomas on May 31, 1:07 PM
          1. Hey People, is Tomas a secret INC Minister since he is a very Passionate INC defender? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 31, 5:31 PM
            1. I have heard sermons where Eduardo is not mentioned. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:32 AM
          2. Tomas, be Honest. Are you INC Minister Antonio de Guzman Jr (son in law of Eduardo Manalo) - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 31, 5:42 PM
            1. As I wrote above, I have never studied in Yale. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:34 AM
      2. So you're saying they only praise and respect Eduardo et al. Sounds like veneration - I.N.D. on May 31, 11:24 PM
        1. Good one, Iglesia ni Bloody. Hail Mary. That Tomas really likes to Dilly Dally - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 1, 12:10 AM
          1. What? I say Catholics worship Mary but don't venerate her? The opposite. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:41 AM
        2. Maybe they would call it veneration, I don't know such details. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:37 AM
      3. Tomas, do you believe that God is a Spirit and can not be seen by a Human? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 1, 4:47 AM
        1. I disagree with INC on this. - Tomas on Jun 7, 10:45 AM
          1. good to hear on your comments. INC minister Emmanuel is so brainwashed by Eduardo Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 7, 1:47 PM
    3. Come on Mateo, give me some credit for posting true iglesia in Network54 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 1, 4:59 AM
      1. we just noticed something Obvious. given that Felix Manalo does not have Model Good Looks - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jun 2, 3:11 AM
     
  12. World War I declared on July 28, 2014... View Thread - James on May 13, 2:26 PM
    1. Re: World War I declared on July 28, 2014... - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 13, 3:26 PM
      1. . - . on May 14, 12:52 PM
        1. World War I began on July 28, 1914, says source "Armies in the Balkans 1914-1918" - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 14, 4:41 PM
          1. July 27 or 28 is not a big deal. The important matter is, INC emerged at the time... - emmanuel on May 16, 8:35 AM
            1. the truth is no big deal for the inc - hijo on May 16, 9:32 AM
              1. War is the prophesied wind. - emmanuel on May 16, 10:59 AM
                1. by your insane logic Emman, please tell us what year the big four... - James on May 16, 11:55 AM
                  1. The verse was a metaphor, why are you giving a LITERAL interpretation? - emmanuel on May 16, 12:01 PM
                    1. so everything the INC says is a metaphor, same as when your ministers... - James on May 16, 12:05 PM
                      1. INC HAS the ability to determine when a verse is a metaphor.. - emmanuel on May 16, 12:14 PM
                        1. I'm right your wrong, nana boo-booo. Seriously, Emman...that's your answer. - James on May 16, 12:18 PM
                          1. You can't be right. - emmanuel on May 16, 12:25 PM
                            1. so Manalo was sent after preaching in different denominations, or was it.. - James on May 16, 12:51 PM
                              1. here it comes,,,3...2....1.......Manalo was prophesied... - James on May 16, 12:53 PM
                              2. He was sent as God made the prophecy. But the fulfillment... - emmanuel on May 16, 12:57 PM
                                1. not when he began his Iglesia ni Kristo in 1913, but the day he registered... - James on May 16, 12:58 PM
                                2. The official date is the one. - emmanuel on May 16, 12:59 PM
                                3. so G-d knew the romans would change to a Gregorian calendar to fit Manalo's... - James on May 16, 1:03 PM
                        2. world class arrogance. - mzlplck on May 16, 1:26 PM
                          1. Does true God, the Creator, NEEDS to humble Himself to humans? - emmanuel on May 16, 1:45 PM
                            1. No, but it seems that INCgod humbles himself... - jhenry69 on May 16, 3:37 PM
                              1. How? Explain. - emmanuel on May 16, 3:46 PM
                                1. 1st commandment... - jhenry69 on May 16, 4:00 PM
                                2. Everything that was written in the Bible was being upheld in INC, including 2 Tim. 3:8. - emmanuel on May 16, 4:08 PM
                                3. if that claim of yours is true, how do you then honor the Son, just as you honor the - |Judie_84 on May 25, 4:12 PM
                                4. how does INC uphold that command emman? please tell us. - |Judie_84 on May 26, 11:39 PM
                        3. INC arrogant? had been and will always be! they even say they replaced the Jews as God's - |Judie_84 on May 17, 1:16 AM
                          1. Well, it is true after all that saved Christians are God's special q - Tomas on May 17, 4:39 PM
                            1. but they claim to have replaced the Jews when in fact they did not. they were fooled by - |Judie_84 on May 18, 5:23 AM
                              1. Christianity did not replace Judism, it fulfilled it. - jhenry69 on May 18, 7:41 PM
                              2. The Jews are no longer sons of God, unless they accept Christ. - Tomas on May 24, 1:51 PM
                                1. hehehe... any better answer Tomas? - |Judie_84 on May 24, 1:54 PM
                                2. Acts 4:10-12, the Jews crucified Jesus, they rejected - Tomas on May 24, 2:38 PM
                                3. are you forgetful of the truth that God loves the Israelites with an everlasting love? - |Judie_84 on May 24, 5:05 PM
                                4. read Romans 11 and that might help your unbelief that God loves the Israelites with a - |Judie_84 on May 24, 5:07 PM
                                5. No he doesn't, I don't see that anywhere in chapter 11. - Tomas on May 24, 7:07 PM
                                6. Tom, Jude said God is an Israeli, why should he despise the Jews now? - Kumag si Juday on May 26, 11:03 PM
                                7. who despised the Jews later in his ministry? Martin Luther? hehe - |Judie_84 on May 26, 11:51 PM
                                8. Of course true saved Christians love all unsaved, including - Tomas on May 31, 2:05 PM
                                9. Kumag, of course if Jesus is God, then God became an Israelite. - Tomas on May 31, 2:02 PM
                                10. That's a big "IF", Tom and that IF is impossible to happen. lol - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 12:11 PM
                                11. Actually, there is no verse saying Jesus is not God. - Tomas on Jun 7, 11:38 AM
                2. wind = war. - mzlplck on May 16, 1:13 PM
                  1. Obedience to God is the FIRST STEP to wisdom. - emmanuel on May 16, 2:03 PM
                    1. And like a true INCer... - jhenry69 on May 18, 4:15 PM
            2. "No big deal"...um, your ministers hammer that date over and over... - James on May 16, 11:58 AM
              1. You misunderstood their explanation. - emmanuel on May 16, 12:02 PM
                1. thats it? thats your reply to James? - mzlpck on May 17, 12:48 AM
                  1. Seriouly dude... - jhenry69 on May 18, 4:25 PM
                    1. your tactics 101 is right on the button! - mzlplck on May 18, 11:28 PM
                2. .. - Mzlplck on May 17, 1:31 PM
                3. .. - Mzlplck on May 17, 4:14 PM
                4. .. - Mzlplck on May 17, 9:27 PM
                5. .. - Mzlplck on May 18, 4:52 AM
                6. .. - Mzlplck on May 20, 12:52 PM
                7. .. - mzlplck on May 21, 8:47 PM
                8. .. - mzlplck on May 21, 10:41 PM
     
  13. Omniscience of God View Thread - INCgoersGF on May 26, 5:09 PM
    1. so, is the Voice in your head saying run away GF, and dump that boyfriend, since G-d has - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on May 26, 8:19 PM
      1. Not yet - INCgoersGF on May 26, 10:17 PM
        1. So if you are both Christian, even if he believes Christ did not preexist, - Tomas on May 31, 2:24 PM
          1. Christian is he who does not believe Christ is God? where is your sense of honesty there - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:16 PM
            1. pretending to be Christian but NOT sure whether Christ is God or not. - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:18 PM
              1. That is not a gospel doctrine. No verse says you have to believe - Tomas on May 31, 3:24 PM
                1. read John 17:3 and allied verses - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:27 PM
                  1. He is the true God and eternal life. - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:32 PM
                    1. I know John 3:16 by heart, that verse distinguishes - Tomas on May 31, 3:43 PM
                      1. Sorry, I meant to write instead, the Father, who the verse says is the one whose Son is - Tomas on May 31, 3:46 PM
                        1. hahaha. still not getting close Tomas. - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:53 PM
                      2. haha haha haha. you are incredible for your consistency Tomas! may the eyes of the blind - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:52 PM
                        1. At first I learned that the non-deity of Jesus is a big deal, - Tomas on May 31, 4:19 PM
                          1. it's you who does not know. Christ's followers know his true nature. He's God in the flesh - |Judie_84 on May 31, 11:02 PM
                            1. apostles peter and paul told us he's a man ! - Observer2 on Jun 2, 9:43 PM
                            2. Christ's followers know. - |Judie_84 on Jun 2, 11:44 PM
                              1. Judie, I am a Christ's follower too. And I have been proving - Tomas on Jun 7, 6:11 AM
    2. if god is omniscient, why did he fail in making man perfect while expecting perfection? - WormJacob on May 31, 4:05 PM
      1. It's because we are lesser than God, so we can't be - Tomas on May 31, 4:36 PM
        1. Again, separating god from it all. It's just as I previously mentioned. - WormJacob on May 31, 4:47 PM
          1. God did not want to create people to be equal to him, - Tomas on Jun 7, 6:34 AM
      2. Did he fail or did he choose to make man imperfect? - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 11:33 AM
        1. wouldn't it seem worse if god intentionally screwed mankind over like that? - WormJacob on Jun 1, 1:51 PM
          1. God gave us free will to either follow the path of life or death - Kumag Ka on Jun 2, 11:37 AM
            1. Was death always part of the plan? - WormJacob on Jun 2, 3:54 PM
            2. Should suffering and death occur simply to make a bible verse "meaningful"? - WormJacob on Jun 3, 12:23 PM
              1. death and suffering came first before the bible, isn't it? - Kumag Ka on Jun 5, 1:09 AM
                1. actually I do believe in free will. I just don't believe a god gave that to us as a gift - WormJacob on Jun 5, 9:52 PM
                  1. that's the gift- He showed us the way which way to go to live and which way to die. - Kumag Ka on Jun 7, 3:46 AM
                    1. God is supposedly almighty. He needs messengers to help him get the word out? - WormJacob on Jun 7, 11:06 AM
                      1. He does not need messengers but he wants messengers. - Tomas on Jun 7, 11:26 AM
     
  14. WORM your turn to divulge of your life View Thread - Eric on Mar 12, 8:29 PM
    1. my kids will be well informed. They will learn how to live, laugh, learn and love - WormJacob on Mar 12, 8:43 PM
      1. no man can come to me unless the Father who has sent me draws them. - |Judie_84 on Mar 12, 11:35 PM
        1. sorry Judie, I don't talk to imaginary people. I don't expect pretend friends to do a thng - WormJacob on Mar 13, 12:02 AM
          1. A lot of people have seen miracles, especially in the first century. - Tomas on Jun 7, 8:34 AM
            1. The bible is true because the bible says it's true? Circular argument - WormJacob on Jun 7, 10:53 AM
              1. Why would so many have lied? What would they have had - Tomas on Jun 7, 11:21 AM
      2. Bonds doesnt care if we BELIEVE. just to PROVE it - Eric on Mar 13, 1:52 AM
        1. BARRY BONDS - anjel.forrest on Jun 3, 7:47 AM
     
  15. does the INC preach Isaiah 9:6-7 and Zechariah 14:16-19? View Thread - |Judie_84 on May 10, 12:21 AM
    1. INC certainly does preach Is. 9:6-7, they teach it is a long name - Tomas on May 10, 9:11 AM
      1. ut the most important thing people will do at the feast is to worship the Father - |Judie_84 on May 10, 9:36 AM
        1. "But the most important thing people will do at the feast is to worship the Father." - |Judie_84 on May 10, 9:51 AM
          1. Sure the Lord Jesus will reign on the earth, but under the Father. - Tomas on May 10, 9:57 AM
        2. In the Old Testament it is the Father who is called Yahweh, - Tomas on May 10, 9:55 AM
          1. so, the Lord who appeared to Abraham in Gen 18 is the God the Father? - |Judie_84 on May 10, 2:06 PM
            1. Exactly. Verse 1 says Yahweh appeared to Abraham. - Tomas on May 10, 2:15 PM
              1. if that's what you think, how do you reconcile that with John 1:18 where Jesus said - |Judie_84 on May 10, 3:03 PM
                1. Just like what I told Observer2, it means not seeing God in his - Tomas on May 10, 3:19 PM
                  1. tomas, do u believe god is spirit without flesh and bones? - Observer2 on May 10, 11:17 PM
                    1. Now he is for sure, no matter whether Jesus is God or not, - Tomas on May 17, 12:57 PM
                      1. tomas is muddling the issue. Jesus said God is spirit w/o flesh and bones - Observer2 on Jun 2, 10:27 AM
                        1. If Jesus is God, then still he distinguishes between two types - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:10 AM
            2. God's angel appeared in his behalf; none has ever seen god and live! - Observer2 on May 10, 2:30 PM
            3. God's angel appeared in his behalf; none has ever seen god and live! - Observer2 on May 10, 2:30 PM
              1. That refers to seeing God in his full glory, no one has done that. - Tomas on May 10, 2:54 PM
                1. don't add what is written- did the verse say in full glory? - Observer2 on May 10, 11:20 PM
                  1. It has to be implied, or else the Bible has contradictions. - Tomas on May 17, 1:00 PM
                    1. You implied not to support a verse but to contradict it, Tom - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 11:02 AM
                      1. No, to harmonize all the relevant verses. - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:16 AM
      2. who is this child who is prophesied to rule the world? is it the Father? please examine it - |Judie_84 on May 10, 12:41 PM
        1. Of course that child who will rule is Christ. But the Father will rule over him. - Tomas on May 10, 1:04 PM
          1. it says in Zech 14:9 that there will only be one Lord and his name one. - |Judie_84 on May 10, 2:20 PM
            1. One Lord in the sense of supreme Lord. - Tomas on May 10, 2:25 PM
              1. hehehe. Tomas the great defender of the Christ-is-no-God doctrine is so evasive with his - |Judie_84 on May 10, 2:44 PM
                1. Evasive? I was very direct. I made it perfectly clear what Lord meant - Tomas on May 10, 3:01 PM
                  1. don't mind judie. She has a terrible time understanding anyone else except herself - WormJacob on May 17, 1:02 PM
                    1. No, Judie understands me quite well generally. - Tomas on May 17, 1:12 PM
                      1. give her a few weeks and she'll go right back to pretending you never had that discussion - WormJacob on May 17, 1:30 PM
                        1. OK, none of us have perfect memories. - Tomas on May 17, 1:39 PM
                          1. she resets the argument and says the same rubbish over and over again - WormJacob on May 17, 1:54 PM
                            1. me too, i admire Tomas for that. hehe. but you, with all your politeness? hehe are you - |Judie_84 on May 17, 2:21 PM
                              1. So you need to remind me that I should be feeling a void in my life? Wow - WormJacob on May 17, 2:37 PM
                                1. look whose logic is twisted! the Christians' or yours? - |Judie_84 on May 18, 12:06 AM
                                2. i didn't say the christians... i said YOU. There you go, twisting again! - WormJacob on May 18, 12:17 AM
                                3. hehehe. why me wormy? why not you? lol - |Judie_84 on May 18, 12:23 AM
                                4. wormy, the twister! lol - |Judie_84 on May 18, 12:24 AM
                            2. It is true Judie sometimes repeats the same argument that we were - Tomas on May 17, 2:45 PM
                        2. my way of reminding you that atheists do not want no "NO EXTENSION! NO EXTENSION!" lol - |Judie_84 on May 17, 2:11 PM
                    2. hahaha. i didn't know wormy is that cute, hehe - |Judie_84 on May 17, 2:08 PM
                      1. years or thousands of years before Christ, the Pagans had their concept about a Son of God - |Judie_84 on May 19, 1:16 AM
                  2. What apostolic doctrine are you talking about Tomas? you mean Catholic view? - |Judie_84 on May 19, 1:05 AM
                    1. No way, the Catholic church soon after it was founded, - Tomas on May 24, 8:24 PM
                      1. John 20: 28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" - |Judie_84 on May 25, 8:31 AM
                        1. After that Thomas blurting out, Jesus the God asked for anything to eat !! - Observer2 on May 25, 1:34 PM
                          1. and drank some tea for good health. hahaha - |Judie_84 on May 26, 1:28 AM
                            1. watch your small brain boy. you don't know everything about the Creator whom you are perse - |Judie_84 on May 26, 1:34 AM
                            2. yOUR gOD IS ABNORMAL BECAUSE HE eats !! lol - Kumag si Juday on May 26, 10:59 PM
                              1. try eating breakfast at McDonald's. LOL - |Judie_84 on May 27, 12:00 AM
                                1. ha hahah try to call your abnormal to eat at Max too, they have blood sausage there. yuck! - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 12:06 AM
                                2. hehehe. yummy-yummy - |Judie_84 on Jun 1, 8:32 AM
                        2. Judie, so Thomas called on both Jesus and God. - Tomas on May 31, 1:41 PM
                          1. yeah! that's how you understand it. hehe - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:22 PM
                            1. Yes, I don't see any other logical explanation, in harmony - Tomas on May 31, 3:26 PM
                              1. it's because it is not given for you to know that the Son of God is divine. He was the - |Judie_84 on May 31, 3:35 PM
                                1. John 1:1 is more easily translated "who was with God and was a god". - Tomas on May 31, 4:03 PM
                                2. yes, you see two Gods there, but for us one God only in 2 persons. - |Judie_84 on May 31, 11:05 PM
                                3. Judie, I don't see two Gods there, just one God, plus a god like - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:19 AM
                                4. usual excuse, if judie couldnt explain he'd say you were not given the wisdom he hehhee - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 12:05 AM
                                5. hehehe. why should a mocker like you be given the discernment? are you especial? lol - |Judie_84 on Jun 1, 8:31 AM
                                6. Juday's usual verse is vague, and if you couldn't understand what Jude wish to imply - Kumag si Juday on Jun 1, 11:31 AM
                                7. why should he be given the discernment? hehe - |Judie_84 on Jun 2, 11:43 PM
                          2. Tom is so naive, gullible. Why, wasn't Thomas an apostle when he said that? - Kumag si Tomas on Jun 2, 10:59 AM
                            1. Of course Thomas was an apostle when he said that. - Tomas on Jun 7, 9:31 AM
     
 
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