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  1. Scriptures that testify of the deity of Christ. John 5:18 View Thread - Michael on Jul 8, 2014, 8:17 AM
    1. Compare John 5:18 with John 10:29 and John 14:28. - INCquisitor on Jul 8, 2014, 12:41 PM
      1. INCquisitor, John 5:18 is a statement of truth, not some conclusion by John, who wrote it. - Michael on Jul 8, 2014, 9:07 PM
        1. Whose "statement of truth" is John 5:18? Yours, the Jews or John? - INCquisitor on Jul 9, 2014, 12:43 AM
          1. If you don't know it yet, it is John who wrote and testified in John 5:18 - Michael on Jul 9, 2014, 7:20 AM
    2. Tomas, what's your take on this? - Michael on Jul 10, 2014, 8:17 AM
      1. I answered you already on the other forum. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:12 AM
    3. UP FOR FCCC INCquisitor, and INCer - Michael on Jul 25, 2014, 6:08 AM
     
  2. The Son of Man ascended to heaven, to where He was before. What does this tell you? View Thread - Michael on Jul 8, 2014, 8:23 AM
    1. John 6:62 is a parable like the parables written from - INCquisitor on Jul 8, 2014, 12:57 PM
      1. not even categorical but in parable that ends in question mark. - Kumag Ka on Jul 8, 2014, 3:04 PM
      2. John 6:62 , a parable? - Michael on Jul 8, 2014, 9:00 PM
    2. UP FOR FCCC INCquisitor, and INCer - Michael on Jul 25, 2014, 6:07 AM
     
  3. Links on simple questions that INCquisitor & the INCer fails to answer & are stalled. View Thread - Michael on Jul 25, 2014, 6:06 AM
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  5. Whats to love? View Thread - HiJo on Jul 25, 2014, 5:36 AM
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  7. Tomas agrees INC has no verse to prove FYM was sent by God View Thread - Sis Lori on Jul 24, 2014, 3:24 AM
    1. Tomas wrong belief about INC doctrine won't make INC untrue. - emmanuel on Jul 24, 2014, 8:17 PM
      1. True? Your third angel, FYM, contradicts INC's second angel, Martin Luther, and INC's - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 2014, 2:50 AM
      2. True church? INC delivers their own proof that they are a fake church. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 25, 2014, 2:56 AM
     
  8. EMan: No comment on your WATER baptism or HOLY Suppers? View Thread - Eric on Jul 24, 2014, 10:29 PM
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  10. Hymns for Thanksgiving View Thread - Horizon on Jul 24, 2014, 9:25 PM
    1. Thanks be to GOD my wife knows INC is a CULT! - Eric on Jul 24, 2014, 10:28 PM
     
  11. If an INC member is demon possessed, can a minister perform exorcism? View Thread - Mzlplck on Jul 10, 2014, 1:29 AM
    1. demon possessed...is in here - ahihi... on Jul 10, 2014, 2:03 AM
      1. Am i supposed to be offended by that? - Mzlplck on Jul 10, 2014, 3:20 AM
        1. ahihi...are you not?... - ahihi... on Jul 10, 2014, 4:01 AM
          1. Re: ahihi...are you not?... - Mzlplck on Jul 10, 2014, 2:22 PM
    2. Eduardo Manalo does not talk about demons and exorcisms and possessions. He's chicken - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 3:03 AM
      1. chicken?... - ahihi... on Jul 10, 2014, 4:05 AM
        1. Hey Amer-Erica, here's the Bible verse that says Lord God is a TRINITY - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 4:19 PM
          1. Telling truth is not blasphemy. - emmanuel on Jul 10, 2014, 8:19 PM
            1. 1 Jn 5:7 says The Trinity is One. you have not refuted the truth about the Trinity - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 8:25 PM
              1. There was no Trinity in that verse. You are mistaken in understanding. - emmanuel on Jul 10, 2014, 8:30 PM
                1. for INC Emmanuel to Lie in the Internet for the Universe to see - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 9:29 PM
                2. "God is Creator. Jesus and Holy Spirit was created." How when was the Holy Spirit created? - |Judie_84 on Jul 10, 2014, 11:42 PM
                  1. How and when was the Holy Spirit created? - |Judie_84 on Jul 10, 2014, 11:43 PM
                    1. Col Judie, did you notice that I did the reverse? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 11, 2014, 12:13 AM
                    2. Judie, we should not be dogmatic about it, the Bible does not say - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 9:06 AM
                      1. why not be dogmatic? how and when was the Holy Spirit created if indeed, he was just - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 2014, 4:49 PM
                        1. Sure I see you are dogmatic the Holy Spirit is not created, while - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:11 PM
                      2. Col Tomas, please don't Zig-Zag. The Father, the Word, & the Holy Ghost are ONE. 1 Jn 5:7 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:02 PM
                        1. So they are one, just like in the next verse the Spirit, the water, - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:15 PM
                          1. don't ZigZag, Tomas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:33 PM
                            1. Well, in many Bibles the Spirit is capitalized in verse 8. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:45 PM
                              1. well, the Bible says churches of Christ, plural lower case churches - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:50 PM
                                1. That's in Romans 16:16, why are you mixing that with trinity? - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:15 PM
                                2. no. i am just saying if you are going to go with Spirit versus spirit - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 8:17 PM
                                3. OK, it is not important, just like if a church calls itself - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:29 PM
                              2. Tomas, you do know that if you are under Grace, the Spirit is in you - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:58 PM
                                1. Sure we have the Holy Spirit in us, but INC did not invent =] - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:26 PM
                                2. Tomas, do you really take the Manalo family church seriously? honest question - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 9:31 PM
                                3. Sure, the church preaches the gospel, so God loves it - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 10:07 PM
              2. read modern versions ie NRSV, NIV, ESV, CE and the words in this verse has been changed! - Kumag Ka on Jul 16, 2014, 10:52 AM
            2. I'll betcha that Kumag & Incquisitor wont enter this Thread due 2 an INC Cowardice comment - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 8:27 PM
              1. Kumag does not run from a good fight, man. - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 2014, 3:47 PM
                1. Re: Kumag does not run from a good fight, man. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 6:55 AM
                  1. Re: Kumag does not run from a good fight, man. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 7:19 AM
                    1. I said "from a good fight", not rumor mongering. - Kumag Ka on Jul 16, 2014, 10:54 AM
                      1. YOU CAN DEFEND MANALO FAMILY. INC MINISTER ARIEL GONZALES ARRESTED,PUNCHED NEU DEAN ESPEJO - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 3:15 PM
                      2. Good fight? - Nom on Jul 16, 2014, 4:29 PM
          2. TRINITY IS IN THE BIBLE, MANNY..! - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 12, 2014, 12:00 AM
          3. hey, man, your verse was revised by modern versions like NRSV, NIV, ESV, CEB. WHy? - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 2014, 3:36 PM
            1. Do you know INC minister Ariel Gonzales who got Arrested for getting caught in Adultery? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 6:57 AM
              1. Re: Do you know INC minister Ariel Gonzales who got Arrested for getting caught in Adultery? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 7:19 AM
              2. hahaha and Ozzy has vanished in thin air. - Kumag Ka on Jul 16, 2014, 10:55 AM
                1. YOU CAN DEFEND MANALO FAMILY. INC MINISTER ARIEL GONZALES ARRESTED,PUNCHED NEU DEAN ESPEJO - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 16, 2014, 3:16 PM
      2. Colonel Tomas, The Bible says The Holy TRINITY is biblical - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 4:22 PM
        1. Col Tomas, since 1 John 5:7 declares The Trinity as biblical, the Trinity issue is Settled - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 10, 2014, 4:32 PM
          1. That verse is not in early Greek manuscripts of 1 John. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 5:27 AM
            1. Tom, you really are anti Trinity, aren't you - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 5:54 AM
              1. I am not anti-trinitatian, trinity is a possibility, nobody - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 6:28 AM
                1. ah dude, The Trinity is 3 in one - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:52 AM
                  1. These 3 are one, but it does not say one God. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:53 AM
                    1. now you are just engaging in Verbal Gymnastics. you can't refute the Trinity of 1 Jn 5:7 - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 4:27 PM
                      1. Verbal gymnastics, because I compared it with the similar verse - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:23 PM
                        1. don't ZigZag, Tomas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:34 PM
                          1. I like Colonel Tomas. He's getting defensive about the Arian doctrine - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:36 PM
                            1. I don't preach Arianism, it is just one of the possible - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:58 PM
                          2. You are just accusing me of knowing something, - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 7:57 PM
                            1. i never said Verbal Gymnastics is lying. come on man, your English is better than that - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 8:01 PM
                              1. You accuse me of knowing something and denying it, - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:10 PM
                                1. no zigzagging. the guilt trip method won't work. Tomas, just admit The Trinity is True - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 8:12 PM
                                2. Now you are accusing me of sneakily guilt tripping you, - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:54 PM
                                3. oh come on man, you call some forumites here as Unsaved. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 9:13 PM
                                4. That is not a false accusation when I call Kumag Ka unsaved, q - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 9:27 PM
                                5. well, I won't speak for Kumag. Kumag can respond to you himself here. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 9:29 PM
                                6. Tomas, are you by chance related to Dan Gilbert? serious question. no kidding here, man - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 9:15 PM
                                7. I don't even know about him. Is he some movie star - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 9:41 PM
                                8. Col Tomas, what do you think of Dr James Merritt of Duluth Georgia? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 13, 2014, 4:55 AM
                                9. I have not heard of Dr Merritt, but sure, if he teachings - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 11:58 AM
    3. True Christians cannot be possessed by... - jhenry69 on Jul 10, 2014, 5:27 PM
      1. bump - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 6:02 AM
      2. So saved INC members cannot be possessed by demons. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 6:31 AM
        1. Re: So saved INC members cannot be possessed by demons. - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:40 PM
          1. True, those living in sin are not saved. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:00 PM
    4. Colonel Tomas - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 7:48 PM
      1. So they are in heaven, I don't dispute it. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 8:06 PM
        1. come on. The Holy Three are One and in Heaven. no zigzagging, we weren't born yesterday - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 8:15 PM
          1. The holy 3 are One and in heaven, I don't dispute that, - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 9:07 PM
            1. ok. thanks for your answer. i'm assuming Erano Manalo did not go into details of how the - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 9:20 PM
              1. The first known Greek text with 1 John 5:7 was a sixteenth centuryq - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 10:12 PM
                1. you are wrong Tomas. there are 500 manuscript that has not been collated - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 12, 2014, 10:59 PM
                  1. Collated or not collated, I read it more than once - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 12:08 PM
                    1. collated means not examined. there's more than 500 Greek NewTestament manuscripts not yet - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 2014, 3:21 PM
                      1. OK, if some are not examined, we can wait, maybe - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 11:21 PM
    5. pop! - mzlplck on Jul 17, 2014, 10:44 PM
     
  12. is the liar INCquisitor busy nowadays? Where is he? Hehehe... View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 19, 2014, 4:43 PM
    1. Re: is the liar INCquisitor busy nowadays? Where is he? Hehehe... - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 19, 2014, 4:54 PM
     
  13. in short, that john 1O:36 is not a claim. no need for further explanation, Tom View Thread - KUmag Ka on Jul 14, 2014, 12:34 PM
    1. It's a claim, and it's not just that verse that prove that Jesus is the Son of God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 2014, 2:22 PM
      1. It's just one of the proofs for the sonship of the Son of God. - |Judie_84 on Jul 14, 2014, 2:28 PM
        1. the word there is not worship but honor, respect, revere. To prove it, ask the angels who - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 2014, 2:46 PM
          1. So why not be consistent and translate "honor God" in Rev. 19:10, - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 1:47 PM
          2. προσκυνησάτωσαν (proskynēsatōsan) translated as WORSHIP in English Bibles. - |Judie_84 on Jul 19, 2014, 4:15 PM
    2. Kumag Ka, suppose I were to say for example: - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 1:42 PM
     
  14. Felix Y. Manalo, one of a hundred or 200 or so "only true church" founders. LOL View Thread - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 11, 2014, 11:02 AM
    1. But, 'Church of Christ' is in the bible, meaning INC is the one, only true church! - I.N.D. on Jul 11, 2014, 2:00 PM
      1. in their mind, that Filipino family in Tierra Pura Quezon City Headed by Eduardo Manalo - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 11, 2014, 4:45 PM
      2. I.N.D., the web site you provided listed quite a number - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 5:52 AM
        1. Exactly - so how does INC claim they are the true church based on the name being.... - I.N.D. on Jul 14, 2014, 2:01 PM
          1. Re: Exactly - so how does INC claim they are the true church based on the name being.... - jhenry69 on Jul 14, 2014, 5:21 PM
            1. I clicked on the web site you provided, but got an error message - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 1:22 PM
      3. Only church of GOD is in the Bible, exactly 8 times. Church of Christ can be found only - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 13, 2014, 4:50 PM
        1. Correction: But the task of a translator is not to "interpret", it is to TRANSLATE. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 13, 2014, 5:16 PM
        2. WHY DOESN'T THE INC PUBLISH IT'S OWN BIBLE - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 13, 2014, 7:58 PM
          1. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS EASY - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Jul 13, 2014, 8:35 PM
            1. INC HAS NO BIBLE OF ITS OWN ? - PROMDI FORReAST on Jul 14, 2014, 12:25 AM
              1. I've brought that verse up with INC members - I.N.D. on Jul 14, 2014, 2:06 PM
                1. There is another reason... - jhenry69 on Jul 14, 2014, 5:41 PM
        3. Sometimes sarcasm isn't obvious - but my post was a sarcastic one - I.N.D. on Jul 14, 2014, 2:05 PM
          1. Sorry, I didn't get your sarcasm. You still owe me an apology. I spent quite some time - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jul 14, 2014, 7:18 PM
     
  15. According to your new doctrine that "Christians are gods", how many gods are there View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 2014, 5:30 PM
    1. Why do you keep asking me repeatedly? It is not - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 9:16 PM
      1. can truth be in harmony with error? can love be extended to liars? especially to those who - |Judie_84 on Jul 13, 2014, 12:03 AM
        1. Judie, do you call all Christians liars when you disagree with them - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 1:00 PM
      2. Tom, you need to explain to the small brat the difference between a small "g" and a big &q - Kumag Ka on Jul 15, 2014, 3:54 PM
        1. Of course. But I would not call Judie a small brat. - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 1:02 PM
     
  16. MY TRIBUTE to the CENTENNIAL: what INC teaches of WATER baptism and HOLY SUPPER View Thread - Eric on Jul 15, 2014, 5:36 PM
    1. EMAN: You aware of this INC blasphemy? - Eric on Jul 17, 2014, 11:42 AM
    2. Yes, that's wrong, one should come to the Lord's supper saved already, - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 12:43 PM
     
  17. Tomas is volunteering that he is a god! i can't do anything about it but congratulate him. View Thread - |Judie_84 on Jul 6, 2014, 1:48 AM
    1. would someone wake Tomas up from his dreams... - |Judie_84 on Jul 6, 2014, 1:49 AM
    2. Re: Tomas is volunteering that he is a god! i can't do anything about it but congratulate him. - |Judie_84 on Jul 6, 2014, 2:06 AM
      1. Well, Jesus did not lie. He said gods are those to whom the word of God - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 10:08 AM
    3. could be one those so-called gods, or pagan gods - Kumag Ka on Jul 8, 2014, 1:59 AM
      1. No way, pagan gods are imaginary, due to false doctrine. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 10:11 AM
        1. they were gods by office or authority, not by nature. Are Christians the same? Are they - |Judie_84 on Jul 12, 2014, 10:23 AM
          1. Yes, gods by office or authority, not by nature. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2014, 10:36 AM
        2. "Ye are gods" (small g) was addressed to the Israeli people whom God's message was given. - Kumag Ka on Jul 16, 2014, 12:32 PM
          1. Back then yes. Now all who are saved are gods, - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 12:36 PM
     
  18. INCpolitics... View Thread - jhenry69 on Jul 17, 2014, 4:03 PM
    1. Your ex-INC friend is divorcing his wife? Is he not Christian? - Tomas on Jul 19, 2014, 12:20 PM
     
 
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