Taco's act of contradicting himself had been too obvious and embarrassing. His fanaticism for the cult of Manalo cant be hidden yet he denies he is all the time a member of the cult. The thing that did him was his admission that no one outside the INM cult will be saved. Then, why does he continue to remain outside? On June 20 he had admitted that he lied. If that was not an admittance of defeat, what was it? It only takes proving that a religious group claiming to be the true church resorts to lying to prove that it is fake.

What do you expect of a cult that regards Manalo as the one shepherd in John 10:16? .

This claim alone, not to mention many others, is already a clear proof that their founder was a big liar. IF THEIR FOUNDER LIED BASICALLY TO GATHER MEMBERS WHAT WILL BE THE RESULT? THE RESULT IS A MEMBERSHIP OF LIARSALL FOR THE SAKE OF PROTECTING THEIR PRIDE AND NOT THE CHRIST WHOSE NAME THEY ARE EXPLOITING TO PROVE THEY ARE THE TRUE CHURCH.

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. THIS CULT INSTALLED THEIR CULT LEADER AS THE ONE SHEPHERD AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REAL ONE SHEPHERD, JESUS CHRIST.

Now Taco is forced to admit that he is definitely going to join the cult. He said he had only tested his stands on truth which incidentally conform with the cults stands. Would anyone believe that it took that long? Does he really think that readers are so dumb to believe such lie? When as far as testing the strength of the truths he believes in, it is when he met failure after failure to defend them that he succumbed to admitting that he had decided to join. VERY FUNNY! I EXPECT THAT TACO WILL COVER HIS LIES WITH MORE AND MORE LIES. AND THIS STUPID COVER-UP WILL JUST CONTINUE TO REFLECT ON THE CULT WHERE HE LEARNED HOW TO LIE.

TACO, YOU ALREADY HAD AN HONORABLE EXIT WHEN YOU KEPT QUIET FOR A LONG TIME, AFTER BEING CORNERED ON THE TOPIC OF LET US CREATE MAN IN OUR IMAGE. WHEN YOU CAME BACK TO SAY THAT YOU ARE FINALLY JOINING THE INM CULT YOU HAVE CREATED A MORE EMBARRASSING FIASCO.

lol I didn't keep quiet because, of some verse. I'm just kinda burnt out on listening to the same verses posted over and over. I mean everyone knows you posted that verse like last year and we answered those while putting you down like a dog. Btw. I already answered that verse so this thread is invalid.

Let me explain how you fail to defend. First off, when you post a verse, you must not contradict another verse otherwise rendering the bible false. Well thats exactly what you do, contradicting the bible with verses that you simply conclude without comparing with the rest of the scripture.
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1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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Next, you're just plain recycling the verses with your own interpretations while the word itself proves your interpretation wrong.
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So lets see if you can challenge this...

Mark 13:32
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
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If the Son (Jesus) is God, then why does the Father know yet the Son does not? This affirms that the rest of the bible which prove the Father is the only God.

are easily demolished because they are founded on lies. Besides the cult of Manalo has been well known for citing verses out of context.

Mark 13:32 (NIV)
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.


When Jesus said that even he did not know the time of the end, he was affirming his humanity. Of course God the Father knows the time, and Jesus and the Father are one. But when Jesus became a man, he voluntarily gave up the unlimited use of his divine attributes. In fact, God putting Himself in a mortal body is the very act of love He wanted to demonstrate by subjecting Himself to the human body's limitations-- to suffer and to die and to waive eternal knowledge. All these limitations that He had subjected Himself to are for the benefit of mankind.

THIS VERSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PROOF OF JESUS' HUMANITY AND DEITY:

Philip. 2:5-10
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

JUST IMAGINE IF JESUS KNEW THE HOUR OF THE PASSING OF EARTH AND HEAVENS HE WOULD BE COMPELLED TO REVEAL WHAT MUST NOT BE REVEALED, MUCH LESS FOR HIM TO LIE ABOUT IT.

You've been proven wrong several times on this particular verse and I'm surprised how stubborn you are in accepting the truth.

There is no reason for God to die for our sins as we are the offenders. Its as if God is defending humanity from Himself. What did Jesus say to the doubters?

While they were telling these things, He Himself stood in their midst and said to them, Peace be to you. 37 But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit. 38 And He said to them, Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. 40 And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.


He simply told them that He is not God.
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in fact, Christ being the form of God is actually the synonym for the image of God as affirmed here

"Christology in the Making: An Inquiry into the Origins of the Doctrine of the Incarnation, p. 115

The phrases "being in the form of God" (which is written) and "being God" (which is concluded) definitely do not mean the same thing. Just because Christ is "in the form of God," it does not necessarily mean that Christ "is God." In fact, not only do they mean two different things-they also are "spiritually incomparable." They are simply scripturally irreconcilable, considering the meaning of "form" and the fact that "form" and "image" (man, let it not be forgotten, was created in the image of God) are "near synonyms" ."


"Wycliffe Bible Commentary

"form" ("morphe" in Greek) denotes an expression of "essential attributes" or "essential qualities" of God: "6. Being in the form of God (AV). Better, Though in his pre-incarnate state he possessed the essential qualities of God, he did not consider his status of divine quality a prize to be selfishly hoarded (taking harpagmos passively). Morphe, form, in verses 6 and 7 denotes a permanent expression of essential attributes, while schema, fashion (v. 8 ), refers to outward appearance that is subject to change" (p. 1324).

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Even so, the use of Form or Image is to be considered especially when apostle Paul could have said "Jesus is God but," unfortunately for the trinitarians, it does not say that anywhere in the bible and the first century never recognized Jesus Christ as God and still doesn't today.


Take a look:
Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

In fact, the new testament still does not recognize God becoming human nor Jesus being God in human form. It says Jesus Christ is the reflection of God's righteousness and also points out still that God is spirit which is invisible. Overall spiritually comparable with Philippians 2:9

In what sense then is Christ the image of the invisible God, a characteristic that not only He, in fact, but all men should possess since all men have been created in God's image? In righteousness and holiness (Eph. 4:23-24, TEV)


That has been resolved and the truth is that the Son was eternal according to the man made trinity doctrine and is apart of the 3 person God is the Son of the Father. But, why exactly is the Son called the Son? Was it that He was created? Why not the Father? Isn't the Son the creator to? No, nowhere in the bible will you ever find that He is. Did God ever change into a human?

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: has he said, and shall he not do it? or has he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Malachi 3:6 RSV
"For I the Lord do not change"

James 1:17
"Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change."
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So when the verse says "nor the Son but, the Father"

It is in fact, THE SON. not some human disposable body that he threw away, he went up to heaven still with the same body. Jesus didn't raise himself from the dead.

Acts 2:24
"But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.

Acts 5:30
"The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross.

ON THE CONTRARY THERE ARE MANY VERSES MAKING HIS CLAIM OF ATTRIBUTES THAT CAN'T BE FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT GOD.

CAN YOU CITE AN ATTRIBUTE HIGHER THAN TRUTH AND LIFE?
John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


CAN YOU CITE AN ATTRIBUTE HIGHER THAN ALPHA AND OMEGA?

Rev. 22:13-16 (NIV)
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
[14] "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. [15] Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
[16] "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

EVEN THE FATHER SAYS CHRIST IS GOD:

Hebrews 1:8-10 (NIV)
But about the Son he says,

"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
[9] You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."

[10] He also says,

"In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.

Honestly...did you really interpret that to mean Jesus Christ is God because, He is the truth and the life?

John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Read it! No one comes to the Father except through Jesus Christ. So Jesus Christ is in the MIDDLE. Who's on the other ends except for God? HUMANITY. The only way you're gonna find that covenant with God again is through where? Jesus Christ! HIS BODY. Thank you very much tacio, the only way you will make covenant with God is through the body of Christ which is the church.

Jesus is the truth and the life? Well of course! You wanna find truth? Enter into the body of CHRIST. you wanna find eternal life? ENTER INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST.

no where does it say Jesus is God. You just straight up made yourself look stupid.

Colossians 1:8
And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

John 10:9
"I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

John 10:1 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber.

1 Corinthians 11:3
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

John 14:6 is rendered useless to you now.

Can I cite anything higher than the Alpha and Omega? Well of course!

"GOD" "Almighty"

I'm sure you'll find that everywhere...you'll also find who is the only one who is Almighty.
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Now you've (Tacio) posted this verse claiming that God is talking to Jesus Christ.
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Hebrews 1:8-10 (NIV)
But about the Son he says,

"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
[9] You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."
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This is your moment of being unable to explain the verse. God is talking to God which renders 2 God's at that point. If one is communicating with the other, there is 2 not 1. Therefore contradicting the whole bible, God and Jesus Christ.
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Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.
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Psalms 45:6 of the Jewish Publication Society version of 1917.

The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text. The O THEOS was taken from the Septuagint, a Greek translation of the Old Testament Even there, according to B.F. wescott
"The LXX admits of two renderings: ho theos can be taken as a vocative in both cases (_Thy throne, O God,... therefore, O God, Thy God..._) or it can be taken as the subject (or the predicate) in the first case (_God is Thy throne,_ or _Thy throne is God..._), or in apposition to ho theos sou in the second case (_Therefore God, even Thy God..._)..."("The Epistle to the Hebrews," London, 1892, pp. 25)

"But of the Son he says, `God is your throne forever and ever! And a righteous sceptre is the sceptre of his kingdom!`" (Goodspeed)

"He says of the Son, `God is thy throne for ever and ever, thy royal sceptre is the sceptre of equity`." (Moffat Translation)

"Consult together, argue your case, and state your proofs that idol worship pays. Who made these things known long ago? What idol ever told you they would happen? Was it not I, the LORD? For there is no other God but me-a just God and Savior-no, not one!" Is. 45:21, NLT

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
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Now did Jesus rebuke any claims that He is God himself? well yes course!

Luke 24
36 While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, Peace be with you.

37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38 He said to them, Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.


Again what is God?

John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

The question is the Manalo cult is a fake body of Christ. This is proven by their claim that their "one shepherd" in John 10:16 is Manalo who is rotting in the grave and not Jesus Christ. That act of stealing the title from Jesus is actually an act of the anti-Christ. How can the INM be a true Church?

hahaha!!! look whos losing Tacio...

See the truth is, everytime Tacio posts a verse that he claims is proof for his Trinity and I disprove it with PROOF and comparison to the bible, He shuts up nicely, running back to his usual tactics! ahaha!

Looks like Tacio LOST AGAIN!!!

This claim of the Manalo cult is a historical blunder that has exposed it's real intention--that of grabbing glory from Christ.

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. THE ONE SHEPHERD WHO IN TRUTH IS THE LIVING CHRIST HAS BEEN REPLACED BY MANALISTAS WITH FELIX MANALO, WHO IS ROTTING IN THE GRAVE. HOW CAN A DEAD MAN SAVE THIS HELPLESS CULT?

There still is one shepherd. Even so, where does it say in the bible there can only be one shepherd?

The bible does not say either that there are two flocks and two shepherds. For are there two churches and two heads of two churches?

JESUS CHRIST IS CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT THE FOLD HE IS GOING TO LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR AND THAT IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE HIS CHURCH

John 10:15-16 (NIV)
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep. [16] I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.


DID MANALO LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR THE JESUS'S SHEEP? CRAZY!

don't lie, but your herds are starting to move out after you mumbled beautifully and caught lying that to know the Father as the true is eternal life

think about it, is there 2 shepherds right now?

for there is only one who gave His life for the sheep--Jesus Christ. He is the Good Shepherd.

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

BUT THERE ARE MANY SHEPHERDS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF JESUS CHRIST TENDING THEIR RESPECTIVE LOCAL CHURCHES. IN THE WAY MANALO HAS REPLACED JESUS CHRIST AS ONE SHEPHERD IN JOHN 10:16 HE HAS MADE HIMSELF THE OVERALL SHEPHERD, OVERTHROWING JESUS CHRIST.

John 10:16 clearly says there is only "One shepherd" for one flock. That One Shepherd was the one who gave His life for the sheep. Unfortunately for the Manalistas, their "last messenger" was so power hungry and grabbed that position from Jesus Christ. Manalo didn't even spent a drop of blood for the soul of one sheep but had the boldness to steal that title.

THE REAL DILEMMA OF MANALISTAS IS IN THE INTEGRITY OF THE TEACHINGS THEY LEARNED FROM THIS POWER-HUNGRY TOOL OF SATAN. NO MATTER HOW HIS FOLLOWERS STAND UP TO DEFEND THEIR DOCTRINES THEY ARE ALREADY TAINTED WITH LIES AUTHORED BY THEIR LAST MESSENGER.

DO YOU WANT TO RETRACT ON YOUR CULT'S INTERPRETATION THAT MANALO IS YOUR "ONE SHEPHERD" IN THIS VERSE?

John 10:15-16
As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. [16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.



UNLESS YOU DO SO IT WILL APPEAR THAT HE ALSO WANTED TO CLAIM THAT IT WAS HE WHO LAID DOWN LIFE FOR THE SHEEP. AND IT WOULD ALSO APPEAR THAT YOUR CULT PREFERRED A SHEPHERD WHO IS ROTTING INSIDE THE GRAVE THAN A LIVING SHEPHERD.

UNLESS YOU GIVE A CONVINCING EXPLANATION TO THIS IT WILL APPEAR THAT ALL YOUR DOCTRINES ARE LIES. SOLVE THIS, VER.

glory the true God, The Almighty Father, this coming 27th of July. Praise be unto Him and to our Lord Jesus Christ for all the success of his beloved church.

in John 10:16. How can you honor God almighty with this big lie?

even if you ask for proof, INM will never give you, because there is no proof at all. there is no proof that manalo is the last messenger or whatever INM call him, it's all fabricated stories, you know that, the fulfillment of manalo in the Bible is rise of fake preachers in the last days which of course the work of satan, manalo is just a self proclaim messenger just like the other cult leaders. actually INM is a pagan cult.