When they are cornered they change their position about issues. On the issue of Jesus being Alpha and Omega they used to admit that Jesus is indeed the Alpha and Omega, except that they don't admit that it is an attribute for God. When cornered about not being able to come out with an attribute higher than Alpha and Omega they are now, as attested by the liar Taco, holding the position that Jesus is not the Alpha and Omega.

I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED THAT, IN TIME, THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR POSITION THAT MANALO IS THE "LAST MESSENGER" FOR IT HAS BEEN THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE RELIGIOUS WORLD. HAHAHAHA!

BY THE WAY, TACO HAS JUST BEEN EXPOSED AS A GREAT PRETENDER WHO FOR A LONG TIME REFUSED TO ADMIT THAT HE WAS A MANALISTA--CONTRADICTING HIS OBVIOUS FANATICISM IN DEFENDING THE INM DOCTRINES. WHEN CORNERED HE SAID HE WOULD JOIN IT ALREADY. THAT MAKES MANALISTAS NOT ONLY A CULT OF TRIAL AND ERROR IN DOCTRINES BUT ALSO IN STRATEGIES.

Look around Tacio, you're losing miserably. Is this is? No more proof that the Trinity is the true God? No more proof that Felix is not the messenger? I've contrasted your false interpretations by the use of the bible scriptures and now it seems like you have no more proof.

Looks like you're burnt out!

YOU LOSE haha!

God, the Coffee, who always comes to your rescue. he he he he

Try again Observer.

The issue here is that your cult changed its position from admitting that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega to denying that He is the Alpha and Omega. You should answer with an explanation not with self-serving declarations. REMEMBER THAT IT'S A LONG WAY FOR YOU CLEAN YOURSELF FROM BEING PERCEIVED AS A LIAR IN THIS FORUM. YOU ARE A BIG LIAR WHO IS A PRODUCT OF THE BOGUS LAST MESSENGER.

and errors will be the issue on

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


THEY SAID GOD HERE IS TALKING TO ANGELS, THUS IMPLYING THAT ANGELS ARE CO-CREATORS.

The bible said "his own image", "he created him" therefore the angels are not co-creator as you accuses as of. In fact there was no other co-creator at all besides one God, not three co-creator but one. The angels are just the companions of God surrounding him at all times thousands and thousands of them. No way would the true believers would ever think that they are co-creator.


Gen. 1:27 So God created man in his own image,

in the image of God he created him;

male and female he created them.

If you say that God was referring to His company of angels when He said "Let us make make man in our image" it would appear that it was what God meant.

DON'T ARGUE AGAINST WHAT IS NOT REAL BUT AGAINST THE FIASCO OF YOUR ANALOGY.

We do believe that there is only one creator, One God the father. The angels are witnesses of his creations! We don't buy your false interpretation of "US" as three creators in one God. It is very unbiblical, BIBLE said "HE" created men in "his" image.

The burden of explaining "Let us make men in our image is on you". Please don't give us the funny explanation that God is referring to angels around Him.

Hence you are really pretty sure that the verse is really referring to your triune gods, then be specific who among the three speaking on that verse?

And what is the role on each one of them in the making?

Is the Father the one cooking?

Is the son the one who mold the dust of the earth to create the man?

And what about the holy spirit, is he the one who breath Adams nostril after being cook by the father?


Be specific Tacio, start your pagan imagination!

Who among the three speaking on that controversial "us" and what is his specific role in creating men?

It seems like you were there when the the trinity created men, so tell us your fabled story Tacio.

What are each roles in creating men since you insist that they are helping each other, you even use the word co-creator.

First co-creator is not biblical, because there is only one God hence one creator, it's the same with the word trinity, it's only in Tacio's co-conspirator of the trinity that invented those words.

So would you share us your story Tacio?

What is the roles of the co-creators?

It's your turn now to explain your absurdities.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, LET US MAKE MAN in our image, after our likeness..."

someone when He said "Let us create man in our image."

Does the statement of God conclude that those He was talking to joined Him in doing the creation?

Tacio, the question you should be asking is "Did those whom God was talking to joined Him in doing the act of creation after God said 'Let us create man in our image.'?

The answer is in the next verse. Why are you so afraid to continue reading?

Gen 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

God did the creation alone. There were no co-creators as you are saying. Otherwise, Gen 1:27 should have been written as

"So they created man in their own image, in the image of themselves they created him; male and female they created them."

when God created man?

Who says angels were co-creators? You are just making accusations and your own conclusions.

I dare you to explain the verse with regards to you trinity doctrine. I guarantee you, the stupidity of your invented doctrine will be exposed.

If you wanted it to appear that God was the sole creator to the exclusion of the other members of the Triune God the statement should have read, "Let me create man in my image". Got the point? Argue some more the readers want more laugh.

Only one God created men, not the angels nor three person!

of the triune God - the father, the son, the holy spirit. These members according to your trinity are the persons of God.

Tacio, the persons of God are seperable from Him such that He could talk to them? So there were four in the beginning - God (who was speaking) and his three persons (whom God was speaking to).

God talking to his own persons? Tsk tsk tsk! Indeed, your trinity is very funny.

It is really difficult to discuss profound truth with literal minded people.

Do they not talk with each other like a separate normal conversation of a person because for you they are just one entity?

How can one expect you to understand profound truths. Please rewrite your question.

You ended up like a child, need to feed you milk, you can not swallow deeper understanding!

Jesus always communicates with the father all the time because they are two separate beings! He prayed, he cried on his petitions to the father proving that they could speak with each other unlike your example and excuses that they are body, spirit and soul hence no separate communication.

Now let me ask you again who among the co-creator of men spoke on your favorite verse in Genesis that says "Let us..."

But I have been telling you that it might help you understand trinity in a human being who has body, soul and spirit. When that human talks are does something it is impossible to draw the line that separates the three aspects. All aspects are involved in the talking.

When we witness the Son talking with the Father or the Father talking with the Son it could be an inner dialogue transpiring in an inner supreme being who is bigger than the universe. The trouble with your questions is that you presume that God can be measured by your limited imagination.

Gen 1:26 that God is talking to the other aspects of the triune God.

You see now Tacio, trinatarians like you could never explain what you believe.

"When we witness the Son talking with the Father or the Father talking with the Son it could be an inner dialogue transpiring in an inner supreme being who is bigger than the universe. The trouble with your questions is that you presume that God can be measured by your limited imagination"

What do you mean it could be? Indeed, your imagination is limitless that you could go beyond the truths written in the bible inventing doctrines that you could not explain.

Just say the magic words "It's a mystery".

But one thing is sure I have not made a any sweeping statement about God that would make Him appear as if He denied Himself. The explanation of the cult of Manalo has interpreted "Let's make man in our image" to give the funny conclusion that angels are partakers in the creation or that man would be in the image of winged angels as well.

I thought you know that image there represent the image of holiness, like angles and God they are holy so are men created to be holy.

So why do you mentioned about image of winged angels? Does it mean that you are taking the image literally!

So since you insist that those are gods who are talking in Genesis in creating men, the verse continued in saying "and God created man and a woman" in their image. My question is who among the trinity is a woman that was created into the image of a woman?

Remember that when I posted

Col. 1:15 (NIV)
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

it was my interpretation that Christ is the exact physical representation of God. But you were the one who said that Christ is the image of God in the sense that He only represents the holiness and righteousness of God.

This is also the way you are trying to argue the real meaning of "Let us make man in our own image as against my point which is that God would reveal himself to all those pure in heart in the final scenario as Jesus Christ. Therefore the statement:

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" will have been concluded.

He also believes on the divinity of Christ but would put you down on your belief on the "image" in Gen 1:26. He thought it's the angels and not your trinity!

He is also a diehard anti-INC just like you!

in this forum who don't believe in your invented trinity

God was talking to the angels but does not mean the angels joined God in doing the act of creation.

on what is written. Or you are making it appear that the writer is a poor writer.

Just review John 10:16 and you will get an idea of how you brainwashed Manalo followers imagine more than what is written. Does it say in the verse that the other sheep pertain to the 20th century or if not precisely at the period a distant future? Only to forcibly accommodate the insanity of Felix Manalo?

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

WHERE IS MANALO IN THE ABOVE VERSE? WHERE IS THE DISTANT FUTURE?

Manalo also invented that he is a prophet or angel or bird. Prove that he is in the bible, not just assuming that he is in the bible.

He exclaimed it's not the angels that God was talking to. God was talking to his fellow co-creator, that belongs to the triunes.

If one aspect of the triune was actually talking to the other triune co-creator, then who among the triune speaking to the other two?

Who is the speaker ? please Tacio tell me, was it the son? was it the father? or was it the holy spirit?

with a mind of physical orientation.

But I have been telling you that it might help you understand trinity in a human being who has body, soul and spirit. When that human talks are does something it is impossible to draw the line that separates the three aspects. All aspects are involved in the talking.

When we witness the Son talking with the Father or the Father talking with the Son it could be an inner dialogue transpiring in an inner supreme being who is bigger than the universe. The trouble with your questions is that you presume that God can be measured by your limited imagination, as if you can watch Him on stage.

could be, says tacio. could be. might be, possibly, baka sakali, he he hee he bw aha haa... baseless speculations!

the same old serpent, the old tacio forever. only he has the exclusive, superdigital capability to decipher matters regarding his own version of god.

this forum, he is also a trinity believer like me before. He distributed some copies among the listeners and our locale worker doesn't need to say anything, he just made an outright conclusion that you are full of lies (I saw your "non de plume" in the paper) and you became the laughing subject in the process.

I'm happy to hear that this has become the object of your discussion. Please invite your fellow cult members to join here and test your funny doctrines for themselves.

Members of INC has just come and go on this forum in the past 10 years, they were just tired of your repeated arguments that could never persuade them to believe on you.

First of all you can't even have the guts to reveal the church where you attended because of your shame, you are a coward and could not stand up with your own religion. You are such a loser!

For ten years of posting here, you have nothing to show any progress of your constant attack of the INC. Nothing! The INC is still marching triumphantly despite your effort to contain it.

This coming July 27, you will surely have a heart attack on envy and defeat.

You have to secure a heart attack medication on that date!

IT IS ALSO GOOD AT PLAYING POLITICS THROUGH UNIFIED VOTING WHICH HAS BECOME ATTRACTIVE TO POLITICIANS. I CAN'T BLAME IGNORANT POLITICIANS

Instead of mouthing useless propagandas make a good argument to refute all accusations at your funny doctrines. Try something new, not the worn out arguments that your cult has been feeding your controlled minds.

you should be fried, I mean fired by the Devil from this forum! USELESS propagandist!

Tacio admitted he failed his job in this forum when he said the INC is still EFFECTIVE after all the efforts he made!

Tacio is a loser!

Well he said it in a negative way, of course he is the Devil what can you expect form the devil.

But the point is that Tacio conceded and that he knows failed in his mission in this forum.

So what he is doing right now is just playing like a troll, an ineffective instrument of the devil in these last days to control and stop the INC from growing into a dynamic church.

Tacio is a loser!

No matter how strong you say you are it only proves you are a strong cult and in no way a strong church.

obviously you can't argue anymore and have run out of anything to say to defend your "Let's make man in our image" making it appear that God was talking to angels. Hahahaha! Poor Manalista! What can you expect from a cult with a "last messenger" and "one shepherd" who is rotting in the grave.

won't really prevail. The very effective one is the Holy Spirit within us which you are missing maybe since you were born or more than ten years ago. Your pautots just won't work.

You started it, you finish it!

Who among the co-creator spoke that words "Let us make"

your body, spirit or soul talking? Use your brain Jim.

A valid question to a stupid doctrine.

Tacio, nobody will question me when I'm talking to someone else.
But when I'm talking to my own self? That's crazy.

Will I ever tell myself "Let us eat", "Let us sleep", "Let us pray"?
Do you do that Tacio?

It is very clear in the bible that the son is distinct from the father, the son prays to the father and the father speaks about the son. How can they be one person now, when I ask you who was speaking on your favorite verse?

Respond Tacio, don't call that question stupid just because you can not answer it. I thought you said there are three co-creator? Which of the co-crreator speaking on that verse?

who continuosly believes in what is obviously proven wrong. It applies to you Tacio.

can't prove it with bible basis? If that is not mind control what is it?

trinity now is down the drain!

You were saying when God said "Let us create man in our image", it meant we were created in His image with body, soul and spirit. Did God has a body when He said those words? Or you accept now that you are wrong with your interpretation?

This is a good question.

Question. First why is it that if a man can be flesh AND spirit,
a dual nature), why it is impossible for God to have a dual, triune or
infinate nature?

You have a dual nature?

When you say you are a man that is a totality - flesh, spirit and soul. You cannot say you are a man in reference only to you flesh or your spirit or you soul. Got it?

Who says it is impossible for God to have infinite nature? He is God the almighty. He has unlimited capability.

Do not confuse "capability" from "will". God is capable of everything but there are things He would not will to do.

God "will" not lie and God is not and "will" not be a man.