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Let us make Man in our Image..DEBUNKED!

June 30 2009 at 6:44 PM
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Genesis 1:26 ...... Let us make Man in our Image

Question:
They assume that God was talking to the 2 person
in the Trinity when God use the word us.
They assumed together with God they created Man .

Answer:
It is wrong to conclude that there were 3 person talking in Gen.1:26
Becase the word us are not limited to 3.
God is speaking to his Angels, the cherubin and the serapins.

Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of
the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:23. therefore the Lord God sent
him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.
24. So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden
of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the
tree of life.


Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne,
high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. 2. Above it stood seraphim;
each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet,
and with two he flew.


God created evrything all Alone by himself.
Gen. 1: 27. So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him;
male and female He created them.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and He who formed you from the womb:
"I am the Lord, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who
spreads abroad the earth by Myself;

Nehemiah 9:6 You alone are the Lord; You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens,
with all their host, the earth and all things on it, the seas and all that is in them,
and You preserve them all. the host of heaven worships You.

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Made in the image of cherubim

June 30 2009, 11:41 PM 

Cherubs are described as winged beings. The biblical prophet Ezekiel describes the cherubim as a tetrad of living creatures, each having four faces: of a lion, an ox, an eagle, and a man. They are said to have the stature and hands of a man, the feet of a calf, and four wings. Two of the wings extended upward, meeting above and sustaining the throne of God; while the other two stretched downward and covered the creatures themselves.

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What image of God and cherubims is man made of?

July 1 2009, 11:39 AM 

Man cannot be in the physical image of God because God is invisible. No man knows what God looks like!

Man cannot be in the physical image of cherubims either because I have not seen any man that fits the following description of cherubims:

"The biblical prophet Ezekiel describes the cherubim as a tetrad of living creatures, each having four faces: of a lion, an ox, an eagle, and a man. They are said to have the stature and hands of a man, the feet of a calf, and four wings. Two of the wings extended upward, meeting above and sustaining the throne of God; while the other two stretched downward and covered the creatures themselves."

The nearest image of God and cherubims that man is made of is found in Ephesians 4:24 where a Christian (the new man) is said to be "....created according to God in righteousness and true holiness."


 
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VER, do you believe we were created in God's image?

July 1 2009, 1:00 PM 

Do you believe our heart has the potential for infinite love?
Do you believe our mind has the potential for infinite wisdom?
I you do believe this then we are all created in the image of Jesus.

 
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pity on you coffe....you been fooled by your priest

July 1 2009, 9:14 PM 

Coffeemaker
"we are all created in the image of Jesus."

VER
Balooney..Stop lying coffee...is jesus also the father?

ISA 64:8
But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

1COR 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him

Coffeee..if you cant answer this then ran away from your apostate church while theres time.





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You don't need to pity me for my own believes

July 1 2009, 9:52 PM 

I won't mind if you believed in total depravity
is that makes you happy.

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God is talking to His angels?

July 1 2009, 10:43 PM 

Do you mind giving a biblical proof of that?

Again, let me stress what's on Gen 1:26:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

LET US MAKE MAN...

God is talking to an entity who is a creator as HE is.

You said that the image of God is what's written in Eph 4:24

the new man which was created after God...

Do you mind telling me who is the creator of this new man? Let me read it to you:

Eph 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to MAKE IN HIMSELF of twain one new man, so making peace;

Can you tell me who is this "HIMSELF" mentioned in the verse? Can you?

Let me spell it out to you who is it. Isn't it Christ? It is written in your pasugo as well - don't tell me you haven't read about it. Therefore without further ado, inc unwillingly admit that Christ is a creator as well.

Well even if inc will deny it but they cannot erase what's written in the bible.

Was The Son already present during the creation? Let's just read:

Prov 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Can you tell what's HIS SON'S NAME? Can you?

He can't be the angels because it is written as well:
Heb 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Christ is the only begotten Son of God - God did not call neither one of His angel as His Son.

Prov 30:4 and Heb 1:15 - Isn't it a good tandem?

That will surely put Christ in the scene of creation isn't it?

But let's add some icing to the cake:
Col 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Does it include man? Well of course if you can deny if you will say that you're not in earth - what do you say?

I still have some more verses to cite but my post is getting longer.

Til next post.


 
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ARENT YOU SORIANO FOLLOWER?

July 2 2009, 3:28 AM 

HOW CAN YOU BELIEVED IN A PREACHER WHO PREACHES THAT GOD IS MANY? ONLY DECIEVED FOOLS WOULD DO THAT.

FOR YOUR INFO READ THIS VERSES AND PUT IT IN YOUR HEAD.

ISA 64:8
But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

1COR 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him

ANSWER MY QUESTION:
1.IS JESUS ALSO THE FATHER?
2.WAS CHRIST ALIVE IN PRE-GENESIS TIME?
3.HOW MANY ENTITY DID THE ACT OF CREATING MAN?

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Answer this serious question first, Ver, before you accuse anyone of being false

July 3 2009, 5:27 AM 

How can you believe a "last messenger" who stole titles from Jesus Christ? You can't even prove that he is indeed the the ONE SHEPHERD in John 10:16.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT MANALISTAS PREFER A DEAD MAN ROTTING IN THE GRAVE FOR JESUS CHRIST WHO IS VERY MUCH ALIVE. YOU HAVE A LOT TO EXPLAIN, VER


 
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WQHY DONT YOU ANSWER YOUR HOMEWORK?

July 3 2009, 5:47 AM 

ANSWER ME TACIO:
1.WAS IT A SON WHO WAS IN THE BIGGINING? OR WASNT IT A WORD?
2.WHICH OF THE 3 PERSON OF YOUR TRINITY SPOKE THIS WORD?
3.DOES THE SPEAKER OF THE THIS WORD BECAME FLESH?

ASNWER IT IN DETAIL OR ELSE FIND SOMEBEDY FROM JIL CULT TO HELP YOU.

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Re: Answer this serious question first, Ver, before you accuse anyone of being false

July 3 2009, 6:10 AM 

Iglesia ni manalo is indeed a fairy tale

 
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No. I am Christ follower.

July 6 2009, 11:21 PM 

Pro 26:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

1. Christ is not the Father.
Joh 14:28 - He said that the Father is greater than Him.

2. Yes He is there:
Prov 30:4 - The Son of God was mentioned during the time of creation.
Even before the beginning begun - The Son is with the Father: John 1:18, Prov 8:22-25,1Cor 1:24
In fact nothing that was created will be created without Him (John 1:3, Col 1:16, Rev 3:14).

3. God said "Let US make man..." - I hope you learned your grammar in school. It is not singular.
Biblically I can prove this, read John 1:3 and Col 1:16).

Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

These are bible verses - I believe there's nothing to explain.

 
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What are you trying to prove and disrove...

July 4 2009, 8:11 AM 

on Gen 1:26? That there are many God's and not one God?

 
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I am merely letting you understand the content of Gen 1:26

July 6 2009, 11:06 PM 

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:...

I am not claiming anything yet.

And it's so transparent that you are having hard time rebutting the following biblical facts:

1. God is talking to a co-creator implied by the phrase "let US MAKE man..."

2. God is not talking to His angels nor to Himself.

And I believe you run out of ammunition to defend your stand. You don't even have a verse to prove anything - you're just blabbing in the forum.


 
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why dont you help tacio?

July 7 2009, 4:26 PM 

Cmon answer my question in this thread...
http://www.network54.com/Forum/70213/message/1246712948/TACIO+CANNOT+TAKE+IT+ANYMORE++A+LOSER...WHOS+NEXT-

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But US and OUR are plural, which means MORE THAN ONE

July 18 2009, 7:38 AM 

So yes God could be more than three (Read Revelation), but this verse PROVES God is more than one, plural.


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