usual dumb, speculative thesis only the blessed doublefaced liar can understand. bwa ha ha haha !



When did Jesus claim that He is Man and when did He claim He is God
December 30 2008 at 5:00 AM
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Beware! Dont be swept by INMs worldly logic that tells, If God is God, He cannot be Man and if Christ is Man He cannot be God.

To fully understand the nature of Christ, Every verse that pertains to His nature must be placed in the proper context-- specially the time context. All verses wherein God said that He was God and not man were meant for the Old Testament times, when He was not yet manifested in flesh. In the same breath, all verses wherein Jesus seemingly implied that He was Man and not God were said during the time His God nature had to be in a state of surrender until the time of His resurrection and ascension to the Father. Upon His ascension His full deity and equality with the Father is fully restored as evidenced by the coming of the Holy Spirit who makes the presence of God experienced by true believers.

Although Christ who pre-existed His birth in the world has always been God in nature. But He had to set aside this nature to perform His mission of saving mankind. If He did not, Salvation, wherein it was necessary that the sins of the world should be blamed on Him and be wiped out with His own death on the cross would not be fulfilled. If these were not fulfilled we have no Salvation.

that would put him hard to distinguish when is the moment Christ is a man and when is the moment he is god.

Tacio's christ would end up like a cartoon character or an academy award actor.

Isaiah 9:6 (Lamsa Bible)
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Wonderful Counsellor, The Mighty One, the Everlasting God, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 is another verse that is erroneously used by those who believe in the deity of Christ.
Their belief stems from the segment of the prophecy which says, "And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."


However, we should understand that the term "Mighty God" was not mentioned as one of the names of the child but as part of the name which, in Hebrew, is read as Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom (Is. 9:6, Jewish Publications Society of America). The explanation in the footnote to this verse in the Jewish Publications Society of America states:


"That is, wonderful in Counsel is God the Mighty, the Everlasting Father, the Ruler of Peace."


Hence, Smith-Goodspeed Translation rendered this verse thus:


" 'For us a child is born to us, a son is given to us; And the government will be upon his shoulder; And his name will be called 'Wonderful counselor is God almighty, Father forever, Prince of Peace'."


If Christ were the Mighty God referred to in the verse, so many questions would be left unanswered: Is God a child? Was God ever born? Was God ever given? If the giver is also God, wouldn't that make two gods? Other verses on the Bible would then be contradicted. Numbers 23:19 says, "God is not a man ... Nor a son of man "(NKJV). Malachi 2:10 states, Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?(Ibid.). John 20:17 records the pronouncements of our Lord Jesus Christ thus: "... I am ascending to My Father and you Father, and to My God and your God" (Ibid.).


Where did the government or authority upon the child's shoulder (the child being referred to is Christ) come from? Was it innate in the child? Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself made this clarification: Matthew 28:18, Ibid.


The authority that Christ has was given to Him. He said, "My Father has given me all things" (Mt. 11:27, Today's English Version).

If you don't believe in the divinity of Christ, there would be a lot of contradictory verses in the bible. That would be a big problem for you to comprehend. And it will render the bible false.

only if your close your eyes!

whichever, he's dead shit defending it. As I have said, this is Tacio's most feared subject- he refused to argue anymore knowing he's been trapped. bwa h a haaa ha

Show me first the post that says It is my position that Christ is God and man inseparable
April 14 2009 at 6:53 AM Tacio (Original) (Login t13i0)


Response to bwa h aha ha that's another way of saying - takbo at wala tayong sagot dyan!
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eternal. You are wasting my time.



Tata Tacio- here are your controversial posts you already have forgotten!
April 15 2009 at 5:55 AM Bored Again (Login bored1234)


Response to playing deaf & dumb as usual, mang tacio? ulyanin na ba?

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See the postings below how tasyo wanders from his own version of Jesus having both two natures- God and Man- inseparable to separable! Well, he has this usual tactic of suddenly changing gears, twisting the meaning of his own words whenever he's in trouble.

Inseparable? when does God stop being God? when is he man and when is he God? Is the act of one nature the act of both? Until now, Tata Tacio couldn't respond. why?

TACIO SAYS:
This shows how ignorant the Manalistas are of the principle of salvation
August 27 2008 at 9:58 AM
No score for this post Tacio (Original) (Login t13i0)

Response to in addition, Jesus, later, even asked for fish as he was hungry !
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It is precisely the nature of Christ which is both God and Man that He is able to save us. If He was only God and not Man at the same time how could He have demonstrated utmost love for mankind if He didn't feel the suffering and the shedding of blood.

(here tasyo preaches Jesus is both God & Man at the same time- inseparable)

The real problem is in your stupid question
November 12 2008 at 4:40 PM
No score for this post Tacio (Original) (Login t13i0)

Response to escaping from the issue of inseparable?
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Why do you have the habit formulating questions that have already stupid conclusions. First you say that if Christ is both God and Man at the same time therefore they are inseparable. That is your stupid logic and conclusion--not mine and it does not conform with the mind of God.


(Here tasyo preaches Jesus is both God and Man but not at the same time- nor inseparable)

WHICH IS WHICH, TACIO?

bwa ha haa tsk tsk tsk ... if this preacher couldn't even defend his own version of God how could he ever convince us of the goodness of his cult?

He now specialized with RAPE cases. Sign of a loser!

away from a fight. bw aha haa ha !

takbo tacio takbo !! kwawa naman...hu hu hu

You said, "Beware! Dont be swept by INMs worldly logic that tells, If God is God, He cannot be Man and if Christ is Man He cannot be God."

God cannot be man because it is beyond His "capability" but it is not and will never be His "will" to be man. And that is true.