They fight with all their might to prove doctrines they learned from their fake messenger and "one shepherd". They don't realize that the proper thing to do is first establish the integrity of their teacher. If, in the first place, the integrity of their teacher is highly questionable it follows that all they learned from their teacher have no credibility.

WHY IS THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR TEACHER HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE? SIMPLE: FELIX MANALO WHEN HE WAS ALIVE CLAIMED TO BE THE "ONE SHEPHERD" IN

JOHN 10:16John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

NOW THAT HIS BODY IS ROTTING IN THE GRAVE HE IS STILL THE RECOGNIZED "ONE SHEPHERD". ISN'T THAT FUNNY? THEY CAN CONVENE THEIR BEST MINDS IN THE CULT BUT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT MANALO AS THE "ONE SHEPHERD" WOULD BE BETTER THAN JESUS CHRIST WHO IS VERY MUCH ALIVE. THIS ONLY PROVES THAT THEIR ACCLAIMED LAST MESSENGER WAS A BIG LIAR.

Now the Manalistas are left with the great burden of proving the fake doctrines they learned from a liar and they are stuck to them despite being the laughing stock of the world. They have have retracted from a number of positions after being cornered, thus earning the impression of being a cult of trial and error, but it is too late to build the integrity of this cult when it comes to sound doctrines.

As they said in their tv program, "magsuri kayong mabuti". I think the first and foremost for the INC members is to "suriin" the claim of manalo about being an angel, prophet or bird. This pronouncement by manalo is very serious and the INC members should study very hard and give us an evidence that it is truly written in the bible what manalo has claimed. This is your founder and the very foundation of your belief is in question not the other religions or churches. Your salvation rest on this matter.

The hardest for non members and could be funny too! But we understand your situation and your feelings! We do have the same feelings with you before we become members of this church. This teachings is the hardest to accept!

But... for the true members of the INC, it is the easiest and make sense of all the lessons presented, I don't know why but maybe the main reason is because we understand fully what is being taught to us!

Manalistas just shallow teachings even if they know they are lies. This is the result of brainwashing and mind control. They love their master blindly despite the reputation of being a liar and a rapist.

He want to get even with FYM!

He was indeed a rapist and you accept the fact.

that is why you are not taunting! you are just telling the truth whatever happened to your mother. Give me your name and address and lets us settle your accusation against FYM in court! Let him pay what he did yo your mother.

THAT IS WHAT YOU LEARNED FROM YOUR CULT. GRANTING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION THAT MY MOTHER WAS INDEED RAPED BY MANALO WILL YOU CONSIDER THAT AS A POINT AGAINST ME JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WIN OVER ME WHEN IT COMES TO FAIR DISCUSSION. HONESTLY THAT'S THE WAY YOU SOUND AND YOU WOULD STILL BE PROUD OF IT INSTEAD OF CONSIDERING THOSE RAPED BY FELIX MANALO AS A RAPE VICTIMS.

THE EVIL IN YOUR CULT IS REALLY MANIFESTING IN THE WAY ITS MEMBERS THINK AND THE WAY YOU JUST DEMONSTRATED IT JIM. VERY DISTORTED SENSE OF MORALITY INDEED. THANK GOD MY PARENTS NEVER EVEN CONSIDERED BEING A MEMBER OF YOUR CULT.

AND YOU ARE EVEN AMAZED THAT I DON'T FOLLOW YOUR WAY OF TAUNTING AS A WAY OF FIGHTING.

but when it rebounds on you. you get hurt like a baby ?

that is your expertise. You run out of any biblical support with your trinity so you diverted the issue with non-biblical issues!

I feel so pity with you Tacio!

I have flooded you with bible references proving that Christ the Holy Spirit are co-creators:

CHRIST AS CO-CREATOR:
Proverbs 8:26-30 (NIV)
before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
[27] I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
[28] when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
[29] when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
[30] Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,

Col. 1:16-17 (NIV)
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. [17] He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

John 1:1-3 (KJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

HOLY SPIRIT AS CO-CREATOR:
Job 33:4 (NIV)
The Spirit of God has made me;
the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Genesis 1:1-2 (KJV)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.


Psalm 104:30 (NIV)
When you send your Spirit,
they are created,
and you renew the face of the earth.

Isaiah 40:25To whom will you compare me?
Or who is my equal? says the Holy One.
26Lift your eyes and look to the heavens:
Who created all these?


Psalam86: 10 For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: Thou art God alone

Isaiah 37:16 O Jehovah of hosts, the God of Israel, that sittest above the cherubim, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

Psalm 139:13 You ALONE created my inner being. You knitted me together inside my mother.
(GOD'S WORD ® Translation)

Isaiah 44:24
New International Version (©1984)
"This is what the LORD says--your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth BY MYSELF,


Job 9:8
... By whose hand the heavens were stretched out, and who is walking on the waves ... Who
ALONE spreadeth out the heavens, and walketh upon the waves of the sea. ...


American Standard Version
Isaiah 43:21 the people which I formed for myself, that they might set forth my praise.

Isaiah 37:16 O LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, who is enthroned above the cherubim, You are the God, You ALONE, of all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth.

King James Bible
Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

the aspects of God in the creation who are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

that tacio waned to complicate so much!

Please don't say it is addressed to angels. It's really funny

the funny thing is if Moses wrote it as if God was talking to himself as if God is many!

To create man in the likeness of winged angels and to liken God also in the image of angels is a greater doctrinal fiasco.

But in the image of holiness like angels and God so is human, they are made in the image of holiness. Not like Tacios literal minds of winged angels and gods with muscular statue like hercules. How could we be made in the image of God, when God is spirit? Well Tacio was made in the image of Hercules with eyes nose and beards because his literal minds working that way!

How about "Let us create"? Were angels also enjoined by God to create?

say God alone is the creator. You are a confused being.

And who told you that it is not possible for even a man to dialogue with himself.

THIS IS A CONCRETE EXAMPLE OF SPIRIT AND FLESH STRUGGLING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
Romans 7:15 (NIV)
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.

Romans 7:15-20 (NIV)
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. [16] And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. [17] As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. [18] I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. [19] For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. [20] Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

IN CONTRAST GOD'S ASPECTS ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNION OTHER WITH OUT CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER.

... you can never cover up your absurdities.

Where is the evidence of conversation in those passages between the body, soul or spirit? I don't see it.

I do not understand what I do.
For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.
And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.
As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.
I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.
For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do- -this I keep on doing.
Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is
sin living in me that does it.


Look, it says "I" and there is no "US" referring to body, soul and spirit.

Do you actually know who is speaking and who is spoken to in those passages Tacio?

> The Last Messenger teaching is the hardest to accept!

Hmmmm, makes you wonder which INC doctrine was for you the easiest to accept.
Judging from the messages on this board it has to be the three JC doctrines
and the doctrine about the apostasy of the church.

If you are being called!

Faith that Jesus is a man.
Faith that Felix is an angel.

I had a head like a cabbage!

The angel from the east! Ends of the earth! church of christ!

What a load of nonsense, the so called predictions so ridiculous.

perhaps smarter than God. So in what church do you belong?

After a few hours deep in thought and alone in the photocopier room it dawned on me, I am the next "last messenger" of God.

I am foretold

Jeremiah 51:31
One courier follows another and messenger follows messenger
Thats me

Luke 12:54
"When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, 'It's going to rain,' and it does.

A cloud is white and fluffy, I am from the west, its obviously me, and I am raining down upon the INC

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Let's keenly read the verse.

Joh 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Are there sheeps outside the fold? Yes there is! It reads "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold".

Isn't it clear that even those people WHO ARE NOT YET EVEN IN THE FOLD ARE ALREADY CALLED SHEEP BY CHRIST?".

Is it equally true that there are sheeps already in the fold? Yes of course! It so elementary, when Christ said that there are sheeps who are not of this fold, we have to understand that there are sheeps already inside that fold. Well of course it can only be clear to you if you have a little logic in your brain.

The next fact is that, this ONE SHEPHERD is the shepherd of the sheeps already inside the fold and WILL GOING TO BE THE SHEPHERD OF THE SHEEP THAT ARE STILL OUTSIDE.

And take note, this verse is only talking to A SINGLE FOLD.

Now, let's see if any inc can resolve this:

Who are the sheeps that are inside the fold in John 10:16?
Who are the sheeps that are outside the fold in that same verse?

Now, can felix manalo fit into that verse?

Let's wait for their answer.

It is your turn NOW to prove to us that Jesus is the one shepherd in your church!

C'mon lets get this on!

THE FULL CONTEXT TO HAVE A MORE ACCURATE CONCLUSION OF WHO IS THE "ONE SHEPHERD"

John 10:15-16 (NIV)
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep. [16] I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

CLEARLY, THE "ONE SHEPHERD" IS THE ONE WHO GAVE HIS LIFE FOR THE SHEEP. IS HE MANALO? ANG KAPAL NG MUKHA NG MANALO NA YAN!

Tacio would not be here in this forum, if not because of him. We should not be arguing right now!

That is the instrumentality of your Manalo

to worship the one and ONLY true God, the Father in heaven. Not all people believe these, they are still used to idols and paganism like Tacio's three headed god.

Where does it say "last days" and where does it say shepherding is all about worshiping the Father alone?