From DV source (not very good quality, as it is VHS via DVD bridge) I can get only ~ 7fps (with only small crop filter) to PAL DVD
So the 77 min file takes ~ 8h42m

That is on Athlon XP 1700+ with 512Mb
I expected it to be quicker than this

Seb

What encoder settings do you use (PAL or NTSC, quality settings and such)? How do you crop? Within Procoder or frameserving? What version of Procoder?

Ronny

PAL DVD = PAL setings
Not framserving from anything, but doing small crop of top (2) and bottom (4) of the source
Hig Quality settings (but not Mastering Quality)

Seb

Encodeing Frameserved files to Mpeg2 on High Quality I get about 13 Frames per second, But on Mastering Quality I only get about 5-7 Frames per second, So really slow...I rarely use it anymore Because of the Speed or Lack of speed..I would rather use CCE Cuz I get the speed and Quality as a Package..

Hi Seb!

I have made a test with my Athlon XP 2400+ and 512 MB.
I used the PAL DVD template with default settings and added a crop filter, 4 lines at botton and 2 lines at top. Encoding 6000 kbit/s CBR video and wav audio with highest quality.

36 minutes 48 seconds source file took 1:38:46 to complete. That is 9.3 fps.

Athlon XP2400+ runs at 2000 MHz
Athlon XP1700+ runs at 1466 MHz
1466/2000*9.3=6.8 fps

It seems that ~7 fps with AthlonXP 1700+ is normal.

Ronny

Ronny

Especially that I increased a bit the bitrate (I think 6200)
Makes me feel better

Seb

My tests between procoder and CCE have resulted in procder taking longer but looking equally as good as cce and creating a smaller file. Thats using highest quality and not mastering quality..

All the same bitrate settings were used, the only other exception was cce had 3 pass VBR and procoder only had 2 VBR, So technically you would think cce would have a file at least as small.

Hi everyone

I have encoded a critical DV AVI PAL file with following encoders towards SVCD (spec settings no higher bitrate etc.., using best setings, all CBR)

Mainconcept 1.2
Procoder 1.01.35.0 (master quality)
TMPGENC 2.5 Plus
Ligos LSX encoder 3.5
CCE SP 2.66

I can tell you that Procoder wins the battle by far
second runner up is CCE SP 2.66 (TMPGENC is close to CCE)
So for critical material and using SVCD spec Procoder wins

But if you use less critical movies to encode then CCE would be the best choice

Time is in my case no issue as I am only using it for my homemovies taken with my camcorder

I'm using the latest Procoder 1.2, and its a nice improvement. I do a lot of NTSC to Pal conversion, and it does a nice job, although I still tweak it a bit. I change the default DC precision from 9 to 10, I always use Mastering now, and I generally change the GOP size from 15 to 12 if there's much action in it at all.

Secondly, Procoder does much better with higher resolution source. Well that's reasonable, but keep it in mind because if your source is a 3MB mpg per sec file instead of 10MB per sec, it will make a big diff. I've never tried uncompressed frameserving, but I dare say it does an excellent job that way...I just don't create AVI source to try it.

Here's another thing, if you want to save on encode time and you're creating DVDR's then use the default MPEG Video Plus Wave. The encode process takes much less time that way because you're not muxing. How much less? So far it appears to cut it down by about 1/3. That's enough to allow you to use Master instead of Highest for about the same time give or take.

Also you needn't demux later to import into your authoring software...it should accept the wave file. Editing can be done within Procoder. Its not the best editor, and its a little buggy, but not too much different from TMPGEnc.

mark