Guys:
Once again I need your help..Everytime I encode my movie using TMPGEnc (either SVCD or DVD quality), On heavy moving part I see blocks..What is wrong with my set up???..
Any advise will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks in advance.
Geek!!!

What bit rate is your final .mpg file for your SVCDs? The only thing I can think of is the bit rate and the speed at which your burn your SVCDs or a combiniation of both. Also, what format is your source avi video? As for DVD...I haven't a clue.

Lex

with CBR 2600Kbps, with VBR 3000-2200-1500, CQ 2520kbps
with above settings, quallity doesn't make any difference.. I always look for great quality against encoding time...so encoding time doesn't matter.

Thanks
Geek!!

The truth is that in fast motion scenes, it may not be
possible at SVCD bit rates to totally eliminate the
blocks. I do have a suggestion. Use Noise Reduction.
It's one of the TMPGenc filters. Supposedly it will
reduce blocks, but I will warn you that it will honestly
takes days to record your video if you use it. It's
that slow. However, if the blocks are driving you nuts,
it may be your best bet to get rid of them.

Jason:
I will try using this filter..As I said time doesn't matter, if I get good quality..Thanks for your help..
Geek!!!

Here's a quick pointer on what to do. On TMPGenc, click
on Settings->Advanced. Check the box on Noise Reduction,
then double click on it. Make sure Enable Filter is
checked, then set Still Picture, Range, and Time Axis
to their maximums. Finally, check High Quality Mode
and then OK. Don't select Zoom View. It really will
take days to encode your video this way, but it does
seem to help.

Jason:
Once again thanks...Believe me...I am so glad that I found this forum...Everyday I learned not just one thing..but more than what I expect...This is like I am taking online classes...You guys are the best..MyGOD!!Here I have gained so much knowledge about all the video related issues..This is my hobby and you guys are dragging my legs into deeper and deeper video stuff (of course, Ilove it).. Thanks a bunch..
Geek!!

You're welcome. This forum is probably the best I've
seen. There is much more help and much less nonsense
here than in a lot of video forums. The forums at
http://www.doom9.net can be useful if you can't get
help here, but some people have complained about the
snotty attitude of the regulars there. I've never had
any problems, but I have limited experience with that
forum. I can say that you need to do a search in that
forum before posting because if your question was
already answered, or if you post an elementary question
in an advanced forum, you WILL be subjected to ridicule.
However, for very very complicated problems, it can be
a good resource too. The best advice I can give in any
forum is give as many details as possible on what you
did and what you did it with. You'd be surprised, even
here, how many people post questions like this -
"I made a VCD/SVCD and it won't play. Why?"
Those kind of questions rarely get helpful responses.
Some people are afraid of being too verbose, but it's
far far better to tell everything you did if you want
help than to leave something out. Inexperienced
people constantly leave out very important details on
what they did. Always err on the side of giving too
much information. Glad to be of help.

Hi , Jason there has Been a Couple of Posts that I have read were you Have stated something to the effect of Not being able to Eliminate Macro Blocks Useing SVCD Bitrates and I must say that if you are getting ANY Macro Blocks at SVCD Bitrates then you are Definately doing something wrong, or the Source file Has Low Quality or you are Useing a Bad Encoder..I am a Quality Freak when It comes to Makeing SVCD"s and DVD"s, and if I noticed a single instance of Macro Blocks on any of my encode Files I wouldn"t burn them, and I Usually use Lower Than Standard Bitrates for SVCD and Don"t have any MacroBlocks EVER, and I examine My Files at the Highest Resolution My Monitor Goes and at Fullscreen on a Frame By Frame basis..But My Sources are Usually DVD"s, But even My SVCD"s done From Captures from an analog Capture Card have very Little in the way of Artifacts, and whatever there are can usually be filtered out..I can easily see MacroBlocks at VCD Bitrates and Resolutions, I can"t even watch VCD"s Cuz of How Bad the Quality of a Standard VCD is, But should Never have a Problem with SVCD Bitrates and resolutions...Just My 2 cents Cheers

Hi , Jason there has Been a Couple of Posts that I have read were you Have stated something to the effect of Not being able to Eliminate Macro Blocks Useing SVCD Bitrates and I must say that if you are getting ANY Macro Blocks at SVCD Bitrates then you are Definately doing something wrong, or the Source file Has Low Quality or you are Useing a Bad Encoder..I am a Quality Freak when It comes to Makeing SVCD"s and DVD"s, and if I noticed a single instance of Macro Blocks on any of my encode Files I wouldn"t burn them, and I Usually use Lower Than Standard Bitrates for SVCD and Don"t have any MacroBlocks EVER, and I examine My Files at the Highest Resolution My Monitor Goes and at Fullscreen on a Frame By Frame basis..But My Sources are Usually DVD"s, But even My SVCD"s done From Captures from an analog Capture Card have very Little in the way of Artifacts, and whatever there are can usually be filtered out..I can easily see MacroBlocks at VCD Bitrates and Resolutions, I can"t even watch VCD"s Cuz of How Bad the Quality of a Standard VCD is, But should Never have a Problem with SVCD Bitrates and resolutions...Just My 2 cents Cheers

Hi , Jason there has Been a Couple of Posts that I have read were you Have stated something to the effect of Not being able to Eliminate Macro Blocks Useing SVCD Bitrates and I must say that if you are getting ANY Macro Blocks at SVCD Bitrates then you are Definately doing something wrong, or the Source file Has Low Quality or you are Useing a Bad Encoder..I am a Quality Freak when It comes to Makeing SVCD"s and DVD"s, and if I noticed a single instance of Macro Blocks on any of my encode Files I wouldn"t burn them, and I Usually use Lower Than Standard Bitrates for SVCD and Don"t have any MacroBlocks EVER, and I examine My Files at the Highest Resolution My Monitor Goes and at Fullscreen on a Frame By Frame basis..But My Sources are Usually DVD"s, But even My SVCD"s done From Captures from an analog Capture Card have very Little in the way of Artifacts, and whatever there are can usually be filtered out..I can easily see MacroBlocks at VCD Bitrates and Resolutions, I can"t even watch VCD"s Cuz of How Bad the Quality of a Standard VCD is, But should Never have a Problem with SVCD Bitrates and resolutions...Just My 2 cents Cheers

Hi , Jason there has Been a Couple of Posts that I have read were you Have stated something to the effect of Not being able to Eliminate Macro Blocks Useing SVCD Bitrates and I must say that if you are getting ANY Macro Blocks at SVCD Bitrates then you are Definately doing something wrong, or the Source file Has Low Quality or you are Useing a Bad Encoder..I am a Quality Freak when It comes to Makeing SVCD"s and DVD"s, and if I noticed a single instance of Macro Blocks on any of my encode Files I wouldn"t burn them, and I Usually use Lower Than Standard Bitrates for SVCD and Don"t have any MacroBlocks EVER, and I examine My Files at the Highest Resolution My Monitor Goes and at Fullscreen on a Frame By Frame basis..But My Sources are Usually DVD"s, But even My SVCD"s done From Captures from an analog Capture Card have very Little in the way of Artifacts, and whatever there are can usually be filtered out..I can easily see MacroBlocks at VCD Bitrates and Resolutions, I can"t even watch VCD"s Cuz of How Bad the Quality of a Standard VCD is, But should Never have a Problem with SVCD Bitrates and resolutions...Just My 2 cents Cheers

Luisifer:
Here is the info:
My source is: NTSC DV
Video Capture & Edit program: Vegas Video 3.0
Edited Video encoded as: NTSC DVD mpeg2 (using Vegas Video uses Mainconcept Encoder)
Used TMPGEnc to encode it to NTSC SVCD. (and that's where I got the blocks...)

I also tried:
Edited Video encoded as: Windows AVI(using Vegas Video's windows codec)
Used TMPGEnc to encode it to NTSC SVCD.

and still same results..

I have setup the Vegas Video at the Highest possible quality...(for both formats AVI & mpeg)

Thanks for your 2 million cents (for me, its way more than 2 cents..)

Thanks for your input..
Geek!!!

Hi, I use Vegas Video also, Why do you export the Video from Vegas Video in Mpeg2 format then re-encode it to SVCD in Tmpgenc???You should be Exporting the Video in AVI-DV format from Vegas Video and encodeing the AVI to Mpeg2/SVCD with Tmpgenc, Re-encodeing Mpeg files Greatly reduces the Quality so you will achieve Much higher Quality exporting the Movie as DV and encodeing to SVCD in Tmpgenc.....OR just encode to Mpeg2/SVCD in Vegas Video Cuz the Re-encodeing is a redundent step...If the Reason you are re-encodeing is to Make the Mpeg2 file svcd compliant then there is an easier way that does not involve re-encodeing, you Can just put the SVCD header on the File useing the Mpeg tools in Tmpgenc...Anyways If you do it this way you will Get a Much better Image Quality and save a Lot of time Cuz you won"t be encodeing the File to Mpeg2 twice....Good luck....

Luisifer:
Thanks...One more thing..
How do you change the header of the DVD compatible mpeg2 file to SVCD compatible mpeg2 without re-encoding...???
The reason I create the mpeg2 (DVD compatible)in Vegas Video, Vegas gives me an error after 2 or 3min of encoding for SVCD. It is true for all the different movies..I think something is not right in vegas tempelate setup for SVCD....
Thanks,
Geek!!

OK...What do you Mean By "DVD Compatible" are you makeing DVD Compliant File with a 720+480 resolution and a Bitrate somewere around 5000-8000kbs???That is DVD Compatible, or are you Just talking about a File that will Play on your DVD Player...You should do what I said In my other Post..Use Vegas Video to export the File as a AVI file Not a Mpeg file, then encode the AVI file in Tmpgenc to Mpeg2 for SVCD..There is No reason Why you should Have to encode the File to Mpeg2 twice..And if you are Useing DVD Workshop it will accept Mpeg2 files as SVCD files as Long as the Resolution is 480+480...To Change the header of a Mpeg2 file to a SVCD file you Just open Tmpgenc go to "File" to "Mpeg tools" to "Merge & Cut" and Load the Mpeg2 file in and Choose "Super-VCD" from the Dropdown Menu, Choose a Output Name then Click "RUN", now it will Proscess the File and Put the Proper SVCD Header on the File..But you Should really Take My Advice if you want to Make things easier and to Retain Quality...You can e-mail me if you want and I"ll try to help you out...Anyways I send the DVD Workshop Crack ......

Thanks, It is DVD Compliant mpeg.... You are correct...I should create AVI (NTSC DV) in vegas and export it to TMPGEnc.. Thanks for the Ulead DVD workshop crack.

THanks
Geek!!