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!!!!need help! M2-Edit Synce problems please help!!!!!!

January 20 2003 at 4:14 AM
edmond69  (Login edmond69)

 
!!!!need help! M2-Edit Synce problems please help!!!!!!
ok this is the 4th peice of software i have used to join a svcd.
i though it had all joind ok, untill play back, and again
when the second cd kicks in the audio goes out of sync.

what can i do!!!



 
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Re: !!!!need help! M2-Edit Synce problems please help!!!!!!

January 20 2003, 12:02 PM 

You could tell us what you used. Womble (http://www.womble.com), or more properly known as MPEG2VCR, should not give you sync problems if you use it
correctly. However, a lot depends on your source. I used to have tons of trouble with video I recorded with my ATI card using older versions of MMC. The current MMC has a SVCD template and lack of such a template I am absolutely convinced played a big role in why I had sync problems. What's your source? Source that has a lot of spikes over 2600 Kbps can have sync problems as technically this is not compliant with SVCD standards. If you're using TMPGenc to edit, welcome to the club. Lots of us have horrible sync problems when using it to edit. It's a great product for encoding video, but it's an awful editor.

 
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edmond69
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January 20 2003, 2:05 PM 

i have been using m2 edit software.
i have also tired womble version 3.00
i have tried to look for a guide to jion svcd
i can find a guide for version 3.10 but its not the
same as version 3.00.
i can join the files but im to to sure how to save them.
m2 edit is really easy but is out of sync alot like tmpge.
im trying to join 3 svcd's onto a dvd.

 
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January 20 2003, 2:58 PM 

Mpeg Files aren"t supposed to be Edited and Joined Cuz of the Structure of Mpeg files so it is Quite Difficult to Do it Properly...And if you have to Join and edit Mpeg files they have to Be edited and Joined on an I Frame and if they aren"t they will go out of sync No matter what program you use so this Is Probably your Problem, the Last frame in each file you are trying to Join has to be an I frame and if it isn"t it will go to the Closest I frame and this is were the Sync issue Comes in..Try cutting a Few Frames off the end of the First file you are going to Join and a Few frames off the Beginning of the second File you are going to Join...

 
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Re: !!!!need help! M2-Edit Synce problems please help!!!!!!

January 20 2003, 3:21 PM 

If you open TMPGenc Tools and try to demux your stream, probably you'll find that there is a third stream (padding stream) besides the audio and video streams. This stream takes into account the dropped frames you'll surely get from a capture with a directx encoder - or wrapper- like ATI and all his friends that work on the fly in software.
You end thinking that all in your system worked fine, but it's because there is a (holy) padding stream that helps your decoder to get through the mess he's reading.
I want to point that the final output from the encoding resembles more a transport stream than a system (-video-) stream and I've found that often also the best Mpeg editors usually go crazy when dealing with transport streams - probably because we are not able to instruct them as we should.
Btw M2-Edit is really a GREAT editor.
If this is the case, a useful tool for demuxing and repairing a "crippled" system stream (e.g a stream with lot of padding) is PVAstrumento from offeryn.com -freeware. Demux and remux, then join.
Womble - as pointed from Rich and other in this forum -seems to be capable to deal with padded streams(e.g. joining them with minimal loss of sync).
But I've never had consistent results.
But if your stream is a regular system stream then... please excuse my long post
Let me know
Brambus


 
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