... stand-alone dvd players support DVD-Ram media?

I already checked dvdrhelp.com, but not much listed there.

I'm guessing 'no', but thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks.

I'm not aware of any that do. Checking was a good idea. DVD-RAM is basically a dead format because standalone players don't support it. Unless you use it for backup purposes it's not very useful.

Thats what I thought.

I see that you can now get DVD-Ram disks that are not in cartridges and I read that its getting more widley accepted because you can re-write on the media 100,000 times.
Lastly, I see that SpruceUp supports writing to DVD-RAM. But, I think that its wise to stay away from it because the stand-alone players may not support it.

Looks like DVD+RW is the way to go...

gammer

I think that DVD-r/rw is the Way to go Cuz even the Company"s that Jumped on the "+" Side are Now makeing "-" Format Burners, Even Microsoft that Jumped on the "+" side rescently Changed there Mind and Now are going to Support Both Formats, Sony Jumped on the "+" side and Now Make "-" format Burners, But None of the Company"s that Jumped on the "-" side are Makeing "+" format Burners, But the "+" burners are Quite a Bit cheaper than the "-" ones..But I guess only time will Tell...Cheers

I see that Sony has a DVD burner that supports + and - standards. I guess this is smart way to go to cover almost all the bases.

Also pioneer is now making DVD burner that has the +R/+RW support for burning, I do not know the model by head. Looks like the future models will have - and +
More or less coming to one double standard....

DVD-RAM is an excellent product. I have a Panasonic 321 DVD-R-RAM and It burns anything from $.80 to $4.00 media. Panasonic makes stand alone recorders using RAM and a 40gig hard drive to attach to TIVO type applications for around $700. To me that plus the computer system networked would be a sweet setup.

A friend has just bought the Sony +- and he has had some problems with $1.00 - media skipping still under investigation. I hope it's not the case because the +- burners sound like a good compramise but untill they burn $1 media I will stick with my 1x DVD-R 2X DVD-ram.
PS
the ram is a great backup device.
CaptKrunch

Lets not get confused about RAM and -R.
I know of the drive your are using, but you are using -R media, not RAM media. They are different things.
Most RAM media comes in cartridges, and is just starting to be available not in cartridges (looks like normal DVD). I'm pretty sure I read that these RAM/-R drives use two different lasers for the type of media you are using.
Obviously -R is more widely excepted in stand-alone DVD players, while RAM media is not.

I may not have been clear in my post. The panasonic 3xx reads and writes DVD-R and DVD-Ram as well as reads DVD, CD etc. The DVD-ram media is about $6 to $8 DVD-R goes from $.80 to $5. The 100K rewrite capability makes DVD-Ram a great stand alone recorder media attached to your cable/sat. It is my understanding that you can take the DVD-ram from the stand alone recorder/Player load it in your 3XX and then burn a DVD-R. But you of course can not play a DVD-RAM in a Stand Alone DVD player. From my point of view that is a sweet setup. I think the reason my 321 burns cheap media so well is because of the two lasers just a guess. The Sony +- is the best have it both ways position but not if it won't burn $1 media consistently. Right now the jury is still out on that.
PS
For System and Data Backups I prefer the Ram Cartridge because it provides a dust fingerprint free environ and the both load in the 321.
"All the Best"
CaptKrunch

Can someone point me in the right direction as to what the differences are between - and + R and what is better and compatable
Thanks

Brief explanation here:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvd

FYI: I just got one of those LG 4020B DVD-RW drives. The B's software that comes with it is terrible. However, I did do a test burn with SpruceUp and one with Ulead DVD MF 2. Both tests were burnt to a DVD-RW disk that came with the drive. The SpruceUp did not work in my Apex 500 DVD player, but the Ulead one worked great! and according to dvdrhelp.com, my DVD player isnt supposed to play DVD-R media!
Anyway, I'm glad it worked and I'm looking forward to making many more DVD's with it.

Cheers,
-gammer

From personal experience since I have a burner that does both...
There is no real difference between DVD-R and DVD+R. Both are about as compatible with current DVD players. One is not technologically superior to the other, despite what the DVD+R group has sometimes claimed. However, if you want to re-write, DVD+RW is technologically superior to DVD-RW. Rewritable discs don't play in a lot of DVD players, although compatibility should improve in the future.

Pioneer, who is the biggest supporter of DVD-R, announced plans to start making a +- drive that can handle both formats. To me, this implies that DVD+R is winning the battle. Lusifer has expressed disagreement with the following, but he lives in Canada. I live in the southeastern US in a major city and it is somewhat difficult to find DVD-R media here. It's easy to find DVD+R media. While you can find DVD-R media, any store that has it is likely to only have one brand whereas many manufacturers make DVD+R media. I have found with my Apex AD703 that it is VERY fussy about DVD media and I have better results with certain very specific brands.I do not personally recommend that people buy DVD-R only burners. It seems clear to me that DVD+R is winning the format wars. Either get a + drive or one that does both.

I live in Canada too (Ottawa).
I find that both + and - media types are easily available here. And if not, then it can be ordered from allot of places.

If you are interested in ultimate RW media, then RAM is the way to go. 100,000 re-writes! Too bad it wont work in DVD players

Jason's comments are on the mark. The big store's best buy, circuit city, office depot etc only sold DVD+R burners and media for $5 a pop. Now I am seeing +- burners and DVD-R media on sale for around a $1 for a 25 spindle. But still very few DVD-R Burners. Office Max just had a sale on Kypher DVD-R 25 for $25. My friend with the Sony went and bought 3 of them and then returned them when he had a problem with some skipping. I have not had a prolem with them so far. This week Office Depot has Vebatum 25 packs 2 for 1 $33. He was told the Kyphers are version 1. I don't know about that but hopefully he can burn the verbatum's at 2x or higher. Also I just got an email from my distributer offering a LG DVD-+ and DVD-Ram for $170. I hope the multi format thing works out because the cost of media will be the key in the long run. Remember the $8 CD-r media?
PS
I Just buried my Yamaha 4X burner with Caddy bought for $900 wholesale many years ago.
CaptKrunch

...between ver 1 and ver 2 DVD media?

DVD-R-1 is a single side, single layer disc. Typically it's designed to hold 3.67 GB.

DVD-R(G)-2 is available in several formats. The (G) is for general. It can be Single Side, Single Layer.
Or Double Side, Single layer. Or a DVD-R(A)-2 which is what they call an "authoring" disc. the SS/SL is typically 4.37 GB and the double side is 8.75 GB. Most of what we consumers deal with are the DVD-R-(G)-2. While actually rated at 4.7, you'll be hard pressed to put any more than 4.37 because of the optical disc over-head and error control etc. So when authoring, always try to keep the final disc size under 3.3 GB and you'll be fine.

While we're at it. DVD-R does NOT stand for DVD-ROM. A DVD-ROM is a commerically pressed disk. A DVD-R (and the R stands for recordable) are your consumer discs made to be "burned" with a laser.

There are many versions of DVD-ROM. With those you can get into Double Layered discs. This is why you can't rip the typical DVD-ROM full feature set to one DVD-R. Many are double layered. The laser reads the top layer from the inside out, and then (supposedly) continues reading the second layer from the outside in. (at least I think that's the deal) In the early days of DVD, the first dual layered discs were sometimes hit or miss. Sometimes they would jam up during the switch from one layer to the other, or the flow would be interupted and your view would jump or stutter at that point. Today things are much better.

Gammer
All new Panasonic DVD Players this years models read DVD-ram cost $55 to $140 and support HighMat DVD-F.
Microsoft will support HighMat and DVD-Ram integrated in the OS.
The LG burner have has the Multi sofware movie album etc which I have never used but may have to get my new Player to play DVD-Ram. I have not used the Multi package because Spruceup works so well burning my DVD-R's that I use it exclusively for video for DVD-R Data I use Nero express. DVD-Ram for data works just like a removeable Drive no app required. See my Ram post.


"All the Best"
CaptKrunch