does this work with the old ATI rage 128 all in wonder cards? (mine is having the theater chipset)

ur graphics card is old, worth 10pounds in ebay. Please upgrade

csl, for a tenner I will get it from you.
And it is a very good card, why to upgrade?

Seb

Sorry I have to stick to my card.
My budget is not that big.

Huh!

AIW7500 capture from cable-tv 720x576 (PAL)
BitRate viewer Q.-level only 2.7 with MMC8.6 at 8Mbit/s but 5.98 with WinDVR at 11Mbit/s.

And SVCD (PAL) Q.-level 3.2 vs. 7.2
Is it videosoap that cleans picture to that GOOD Q.-level ?!!
The less the better You know.

The Q-value may differ depending of linear or non-linear quantization is used. Does bitrateviewer report the same parameters for both?

Is it worth the trouble upgrading to MMC8.6? I'm still using 8.0 on my old ATI AIW Radeon. I can't upgrade the DVD player to anything higher than 7.6 without buying a new ATI MMC upgrade CD.

Alternatively I'm thinking of maybe buying a All-In-Wonder Radeon9800SE. Radeon 9800SE is a stripped Radeon 9800 with only 4 pipelines but it's maybe a little bit better than a 9600pro.

http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=C3D9800AIWB
or
http://www.servit.fi/tarjoukset/51

Maybe it can be modded to a 9800pro if I'm lucky?
http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review.php?id=03vga00r9800se0powercolr9800se00505

Hi,

Yeah, MMC files are linear and Windvr's are non-linear.
But what's that ?

Linear table =
0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, ...

Non-linear table =
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16

So a quant of 2.7 linear = actual Q-level of 5
5.98 non-linear = actual Q-level of 6
3.2 linear = actual Q-level of 6.4
7.2 non-linear = actual Q-level of 7.2

In summary, ATI MMC is better than WinDVD, but no by as much as it might look from the Qp levels.

When I first installed the AIW Radeon about 3 years ago, there was an infamous a/v sync problem that was discussed at length on this forum. At some point ATI came out with a version of MMC that fixed the problem, at least for me.

Last night I installed MMC 8.6 with my AIW Radeon and recorded "The Blues" from TV using the DVD profile. Playback resulted in the worst a/v sync I've ever experienced.

This morning I experimented with variations on the DVD profile, such as reducing the bitrate to 3-5 MB/sec or the audio sampling to 44 KHZ. Everything I tried at the 740 X 480 resolution resulted in this bad sync problem. However the SVCD profile seems to work fine.

Now that DVDR's have fallen to less than a buck a disk and SVCD capable DVD players are getting hard to find, I'm thinking of buying a DVD burner and changing my recording habits accordingly. (They'll probably kick me out of this forum for treason.)

Does anybody have a fix for this sync problem?

Hi,

Did You install latest displaydriver, WDM-capturedriver, DX9.x etc. ?? as ATI instructs ??.
Usually previous versions should be deleted first.

Yes, I installed the latest display driver and all the other stuff ATI reccommends, except the DVD player (I play back the recorded video with ATI file player or the windows media player).

I wonder if my system just lacks the power to capture to DVD format. It's only an 850 MHz Athalon on an Asus KT133 MB.