Greetings all:

Well I just can't seem to win.I did everything under the sun to try and get my system to record audio/video in sync with MMC 6.3 with the AIW 128 pro,that includes buying the same ASUS motherboard as RICH A,buying high quality name brand ram and on and on.
Well I finally threw in the towel on WIN98/ME and MMC 6.3 and went to WIN2K and MMC 7.0 which records audio and video in sync just fine.Thought I had finally crossed that great and mysterious audio/video sync ethereal boundary ,not so.!
Now it seems,after reading RICH's VBV optimizer post,that the battle is enjoined once again.I had recorded a perfectly in sync 45 minute capture.I decided now was the time to create myself a dandy little SVCD.I fired up the ol' TMPGenc,ran the capture through the VBV optimizer fired up NERO 5.0 went for the make (super video cd) option(NERO accepted it with no complaints)and cut myself a fine little SVCD.GUESS WHAT!the audio and video was OUT OF SYNC on the SVCD go figure.Is there some kind of COSMIC ENTITY out there that is bound and determined that I am never going to achieve satisfaction in the simple endeavor of just making an SVCD that is in sync.Some one PLEASE!!!!!!!!! help.If you have any suggestions to help me accomplish this simple goal I will offer up to you my first born if that is necessary.
Seriously,though can anyone help me?
Thanks Bob

Try a different SVCD player. I have
experienced different results from different
players (i.e., APEX, Philips).

Thanks Rondude:
I am not using a set top player.I am using the Sthsdvd software player.I am running a 1 GIG ATHLON T-BIRD with 256 MEG of ram so I don't believe I am over taxing my system.Any other suggestions?

Thanks Bob

Hi Bob,
Fancy running into you here <grin> Was the clip in sync before you ran it through TMPGenc? If so, which version of TMP_ are you using? Also, are you moving the file at any time from one partition or drive to another? Ie. doing the edit on "x" drive and saving the result on "y" drive. I used to have the same trouble but with an older version of Tmpgenc and also when I was using one drive and system to capture and another to edit. Try the Tmpg_ version on my web site if it's different.

Rich the capture was in sync before I ran it through the VBV optimizer (TMPGenc 12).I only ran it through the optimizer so all the timings would be SVCD correct.
I may have moved the file from one partition to another I'm not real sure right now.I'll try another encode keeping all the stuff in the same partition and see if that helps.

P.S. any news on 6.4 ATI display driver and MMC7.0 in WINME or 98

Bob

Do you need to run it thru a VBV optimizer? If your mpg file in already in sync, just burn it. The VBV optimizer saves little space, and you can run into problems. I find CBR works best, but you're limited to about 35-40 minutes. You can push the limit by lowering the bitrate to about 2-2.2 mbps, and get about 42-43 minutes. Good luck.

When I created my SVCD with TMPG, the Audio started out a little out of sync at the begining and got worst through the video, but then I moved the MPEG file to my Son's PC and it played fine... it turned out to be my machine (wt?). So I went ahead and burned the SVCD to disc and played it in my DVD player and it was fine.

You might try wasting a 14 cent CDR to try and see if it's just your PC... maybe it will play OK in your DVD player.

Hi,
Both Bob and I are using real time capture cards to make "raw" MPeg-2 480x480 video. The only problem with such raw Mpeg is the internal mux rates and packet sizing are not correct to be accepted by most SVCD authoring programs. So you can either De-mux the clip and then Multiplex it back together with an editor that has an SVCD profile, or parse it through the VBV optimizer of TEMGenc which effectivly does the same thing. (plus shrinks the video about 5 percent) This is a quick process only taking a few minutes and since the capture was "real time" the only additional time required would be any editing. I'm archiving one or two TV shows every evening and with TMPGenc little bit of "optimizing" I find I can fit 43 minutes (an edited one hour show) on to a 700 Mb disc with a little over-burning. This plays back on the stand alone DVD player about as good as it gets. Much nicer than VCD.

For Bob, I'm not having any sync problems at all. BUT I have found that if my hard drive is not clean (empty) and defragmented, or I move the clip from one drive to another, I "do" have problems. Also, as I said earlier, there was ONE version of TMPGenc that did seem to give me a lot of trouble. The one on my web site for down load is the one that worked best for me.

You asked about the new video drivers etc. There's quite a mess inolved with them and the ATI MMC 7. See the other post in this forum about it. Bottom line is I'm certain that MMC 7 everyone can't get to work properly is only made for the Radeon chipset AIWs. I'm on my Win2K machine now, because my WinME system is totally screwed up while trying to get that new ATI stuff to work. (Not a problem as I have imaged the drive and just have to restore it) Just the new video driver alone caused my (formerly perfect working) video capture system to go out to lunch. Really screwed things up royal. I haven't restored it yet, because I'm still troubleshooting. Meanwhile, stick with what you've got.

This is for BOB:

Hey, make your self a favor and don't use Sthsdvd anymore. That was maybe the first svcd o vcd player I used a time ago and I can tell you..it really sucks. no matter what you do, no matter how you do it, your Svcd o VCD files will always play out of sync. Even if you have a ultra powerful Pentium III or athlon or something like that.

Now you know, your SVCD o VCD weren't wrong, Sthsdvd was always wrong.

Madmax

Sigh! Madmax, every post in this thread prior to yours was from February of 2001. Do you really think after almost 2 years that any one cares any more about this?

Maybe this thread is old but the problem with a/v sync is still bad. I found that all I had to do to make TEMGEnc sync, was to run the video through VirtualDub in Direct Stream Copy. Then the video runs through TMPGEnc just fine with no sync problems.