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Who are “Hrvati or so called “Croatians?

October 15 2005 at 2:12 AM
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Who are “Hrvati” or so called “Croatians?

In Austrian Hungarian Empire isolated and lost Slavic tribes, who were converted in Catholic religion, were given name “Horvati” or today ”Hrvati” or as they call them in the west “Croats”. They were easy target for Catholic church because of very primitive social structure and practically lack of any religion or cultural and spiritual life.
As a nation they never existed before 1918, the end of the first world war, when Serbian army destroyed Austrian Hungarian Empire and liberated all those minority groups but also Checks, Slovaks etc.
Serbs gave them a language and basic culture (but respecting their Catholic Religion without any attempt to convert them in Orthodoxy ) and the name of their autonomy “Hrvatska”.
They still speak Serbian Language ( In former Yugoslavia it was called “ Srpkohrvatski” or “Serbocroatian”) but now atirficially modified Serbian language "Hrvatski".
This a new language “Hrvatski jezik” is a comic caricature of real Serbian language and it was established formally to satisfy first condition that a group of people can be called NATION, which means own language.
After bloody defeat in Kosovo battle , the rest of Serbian army and many Serbian population moved in Austria and Hungary and continued to defend European borders for the next five centuries from Turkish attacks.
The region where they moved is called “Krajina” which means border ( Kraj = End). During this period of five centuries some of them were either forcefully or by other means converted in Catholic religion, assimilated and forgot their Serbian origin and automatically in accordance with Vatican they were considered as “Croats” or “Austrians”.
Croatian nasty behavior towards Serbian population in the history, like, killing about one million Serbs in concentration camp “Jasenovac” during second world war, ethnic cleansing today ( 500.00 Serbs expelled from Kraina) etc, has been very much motivated by inferiority complex that they feel towards Serbian Nation and sub-conscious guilt and fear from the punishment for what they did in the past. During Second world war Supported by German occupiers and Vatican they converted about 500.000 Serbian people in Catholicism what in their opinion means in new “Croatian nation”. The conversion of Serbian children, forcefully taken from their mothers, was carried out in Specially built concentration camps in Zagreb from 1941 to 1944 by Catholic church directly sponsored by Vatican.
The process of conversion of adult population was undertaken by rituals that assumed use of Cross and special knife called “Kama”. The Catholic priest would hold “Catholic Cross” in one hand and put the “Kama” on the victim throat and asked him or her to accept a new religion. Many of them refused to do so and their throat was cut on the spot. After killings they were thrown in to specially prepared deep pits called “Jame”. Many high profile people in Yugoslavia, who were aware about their Serbian origin rejected to be called Croats in spite of their Catholic religion, like Nobel Prize winner Ivo Andric Who lived in Belgrade and declared himself as a Serb, or the same today well known composer Goran Bregovic.
In Concentration camp Jasenovac about 1 million Serbs were killed manly women and children. The women were raped and also forced to watch how their new born children were eaten by specially trained pigs.
The meat from those pigs was served in the most luxury restaurants in the Zagreb as a local specialty to ustase and German officers.
The main organizers of those killings were the head of the Catholic church in Croatia Cardinal Stepinac who was recognized as a sent in Vatican, German puppet “furrer” Ante Pavelic and his interior minister Artukovic who ,with help of Vatican escaped in Argentina.
The killings were manly carried out by perverted Catholic priests called “Ustase” who tried to achieve sick sexual ecstasy, manly by scarring the victims before they killed them. Many of Serbs despised the death and did not give chance to their killers to enjoy, like Martur Vukasin from the Village of Klepci:
After horrible days full of torturing, he was brought in front of an Ustasa who was supposed to execute him, but who said he would spare Vukasin's life if Vukasin cried loudly: "Long live our Head Ante Pavelic!". Vukasin replied calmly: "Child, you just do your job". Ustasa cut off his ear and repeated his request. Vukasin repeated his answer. Ustasa then cut off Vukasin's other ear and nose and scarred his face. The next body part was tongue. After repeating the request to Vukasin to utter the vicious words and hail the Head of Ustase, Vukasin once again calmly replied: "Child, just do your job!". Distracted Ustasa killed him, and afterwards went mad.
After second World War, supported by Vatican and Croatian dictator Josip Broz Tito (who ruled former Yugoslavia for 40years), they tried to convert all minorities with Catholic religion in “Croatian nation “ like Hungarians, “Bunjevci”, “Slovaks” etc.

Why West support Croatians today?
Croatia today enjoys support of Vatican and counters that are under direct influence of Catholic church like France, Italy Spain and so on.
Croatians the most admire Germans as their former masters. Interestingly Germans, in spite of their big hatred towards Serbs, have much more respect for them then for Croats. They called Croats “Pumpkins without roots” or as one German politician put it recently “We considered them as a necessary evil”.
This is very significant statement that very much explains what is happening at the moment in Europe.
The West actually used Croatia against Serbia in order to achieve its final goal to conquer Russia.
The conformation for this is the fact that, today, Russian borders are surrounded by NATO troops.

 
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bosanac
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Re: Who are “Hrvati or so called “Croatians?

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October 15 2005, 5:47 AM 

Historijski...katolicki fundamentalisti, ulizice i marionete germanskih nacija...

(misljenje se ne odnosi na postene pojedince, naravno...ali historijski, Hrvatska nema bas necim da se ponosi...)

 
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Re: Who are “Hrvati or so called “Croatians?

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October 15 2005, 3:39 PM 

ti si cigan ko je prodao dusu turcima.

this guy is a redneck hillbilly who sold hi soul to the muslim turks.

 
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Licki Medvjed
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Re: Who are “Hrvati or so called “Croatians?

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October 16 2005, 1:00 AM 

Savo

How are the preparations going for the match against the Bosnians??

 
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Licki Medvjed
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Savo Milosevic

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October 16 2005, 10:11 AM 

Savo

Is Savo Milosevic from Republika Srpska (aka Western Bosna) going to be playing for Serbia or for Bosnia??


 
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Re: Who are “Hrvati or so called “Croatians?

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October 16 2005, 10:22 AM 

Stvarno mi je zao da trosis vrijeme na pisanje ovakvih notornih lazi.
Jedino se nadam da si to copy-pasteao.


 
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Ethnic cleansing is an inacurate term

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November 3 2005, 11:47 AM 

Serbs, Croats, Bosnians are all south slavs. The word ethnic cleansing is wrong THEY ARE THE SAME ETHNICITY. It is religiouse persecution not "ethnic cleansing".
A Roman Catholic south slav is a Croat, a Orthadox Christian south slav is a Serb, a muslim south slav is well a muslim or these days a Bosniak. But to have Muslims in Bosnia called Bosniaks leaves everyone else out ie the Serbs and Croats. Are not they too Bosniaks by virtue of just living in Bosnia, Bosniaks of different faiths.
Albanians are a different ethnic group from the South Slavs. They have a language that is different from the southslavs. These are the facts. People are not comfortable with them.

 
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November 3 2005, 3:57 PM 

croats are from Iran
therefor.....not related to all from anyone in ex YU

 
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