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Fikret Abdic - Legenda !!!

September 20 2002 at 12:31 AM
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To je bio covjek koji je mogao Bosnu da spasi rata, vrlo pametan, popularan, i sada kada se vrati iz zatvora u Kladusu mnoge stvari ce da promjeni. On je jedini Musliman u koga ja vjerujem.

 
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September 20 2002, 12:33 AM 

Ma Babo je kriminalac, isto ka i Alija. Borili se za vlast, preko ledja sirotinje. Ali je Babo mnogo veci mudrac od Alije, kome ja nebih dao da cuva ovce. Meni je drazi Babo samo zato sto ovom narodu treba dati sansu da zivi od svog rada. A ne ko u Alijinoj djamahiriji.


 
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September 20 2002, 12:37 AM 

Sto se tice Abdica ili Baba kako ga od milja zovemo on je jedina nada da mi Bosnjaci izadjemo iz tamnog vilajeta u koji nas je vratio Alija Izmetbegovic.

Fikret je potvrdio svojom politikom da nema zajednickih interesa na nivou nacije te da je potrebno izvrsiti decentralizaciju muslimanske Bosne i Hercegovine (dijela u kojem oni vladaju).

Fikret je jedina nada bosnjacima da postanu slicni evropljanima, da izadjemo iz primitivluka u kojem se nalazimo, da se brzo i efikasno revitalizuje privreda i da Bosna i Hercegovina sidje sa crne liste zapadnih zemalja zbog terorizma ( talibanizma ili kanibalizma, svejedno).

 
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September 20 2002, 12:41 AM 

Koga interesuje, evo linka na web prezentaciju Babinih sledbenika iz Kladuse.

http://www.kladusaonline.com/index.html

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Preneseno sa:

http://www.kladusaonline.com/index.html

Behind the Headlines
by Justin Raimondo

Antiwar.com
July 20, 2001 FREE FIKRET ABDIC!

WHO IS FIKRET ABDIC?

Velika Kladusa-Cazinska Krajina, in the far northwest corner of Bosnia, was once the most prosperous and peaceful region in Bosnia, in spite of the constant warfare that has bedeviled the region since the breakup of Yugoslavia. For this was the home base of Fikret Abdic, the remarkable and well-loved local entrepreneur who rose from nothing to become the country's biggest industrialist: it was Abdic who transformed a poor area into a highly profitable center of industry through his company, Agrokomerc. It was Abdic who provided the highest wages in the region, and this economic powerhouse gave the locals the highest standard of living in Bosnia. Persecuted by the Yugoslav Communists, who naturally resented a successful entrepreneur, he was jailed for two years without being charged with a crime, and released in 1989. He restarted his business, was more successful than ever, and ran for the Bosnian presidency on a moderate platform of economic revival as the key to reconciliation between the religious and ethnic factions.

'THE BEST ECONOMIST'

Abdic retired from the national political scene, and decided to go back to Cazinska Krajina with the tacit understanding that he would be left alone by the central government to do his own thing – which was making money not only for himself but for his people. Abdic opposed the radical Islamic fundamentalism of Izetbegovic and proclaimed himself a follower of Western-style capitalism. In Balkan Odyssey, Lord Owen, the British diplomat, described him as "forthright, confident and different from the Sarajevan Politics. He was in favor of negotiating and compromising with Croats and Serbs to achieve a settlement, and scathing about those Muslims who wanted to block any such settlement." As one Abdic supporter succinctly put it: "Alija Izetbegovic is the biggest Muslim fundamentalist. Fikret Abdic is the best economist and smartest man."

NO IMMUNITY

The socialist-minded government in Sarajevo did not look kindly on Abdic's economic liberalism, and furthermore was horrified by Abdic's open dealing with Croats and Serbs. Abdic believed that he could achieve a kind of informal autonomy, and that his mini-state could stay above the fray: this may have been the crux of a deal with Izetbegovic that led Abdic to walk away from his 1990 election victory, with the understanding that he would henceforth enjoy a kind of immunity. But it was not to be.

A SEPARATE PEACE

The three-sided civil war that tore apart the fragile Bosnian confederation did not allow for such a disinterested pragmatism: he soon found himself and his prosperous isle of Balkan capitalism under siege, from the Bosnian government – which resented his moderate stance and was jealous of his popularity – and also from the Croatians, who were realigned with the central authorities in Sarajevo. Abdic did his best to straddle the fence, and play one side off against the other, but eventually this became impossible. In spite of Abdic's adroit maneuverings, by the spring of 1992, his peaceful and prosperous enclave was surrounded by hostile parties on four sides – and the Bosnian Muslim army afforded him no protection. Always critical of the uncompromising position of Izetbegovic and his pro-Iranian fundamentalist party, the SDA, Abdic declared the Cazinska Krajina enclave an autonomous republic, and signed a separate peace with both the Serbs and the Croats.

THE RAPE OF WEST BOSNIA

The Bosnian Army launched a deadly offensive against Abdic on June 10, 1994, and they were joined by their newfound allies, the Croats. The Bosnian 5th Corps attacked Velika Kladusa in a campaign of murder, terror, and rapine that equals any of the more widely-touted atrocities, such as the "rape" of Srebenica, in which the Muslims are always the victims. Well, here it was Muslims victimizing other Muslims: but since that didn't fit into the neat victimological categories established by the Western media, it was studiously ignored.

TWO KANGAROO COURTS

Abdic and tens of thousands of his followers fled into neighboring Croatia, where many were crowded into refugee camps, as the Bosnian army reclaimed the enclave. Thousands were killed in the fighting, and, after the battle, Abdic's remaining supporters – those who did not flee – were subjected to systematic and cruel repression. (Abdic was himself the target of an Iranian-trained assassination squad organized by the Bosnian intelligence agency.) Now Croatia is accusing him of involvement in the deaths of civilians and prisoners of war during his enclave's battle with the Bosnian Muslim central government.

DJEDOVIC'S ORDEAL

Fikret's political associate, Ibrahim Djedovic, a former official of the Autonomous Republic of Western Bosnia, has already been acquitted of the same phony "war crimes" charges of which Abdic is now accused. Djedovic was arrested during a session of the House of Representatives of the Bosnian Assembly, of which he is an elected member, representing Abdic's party, the Democratic People's Community (DNZ). The police surrounded the building, seized Djedovic, and spirited him off to a hotel room in Sarajevo. He was jailed, and initially convicted by a Bosnian court, but the decision was overturned by an appeals court for lack of evidence. Djedovic's victory is widely seen as a confirmation of Abdic's contention that the autonomists never wanted war with Sarajevo. It is also a stinging refutation of the phony charge that Abdic and his government set up "concentrations camps," in which civilians were locked up for political reasons. Besides holding Djedovic personally responsible for every violation of human rights that had occurred during the rebellion, the governing Party of Democratic Action (SDA) prosecutors threw in the charge of rape. All the favorite horror stories of the Bosnians and their Western supporters were thrown into this "war crimes" stew: not only tall tales of "genocide," but also "concentration camps" where rape was the overseers' favorite pastime.

SCAPEGOATS

The Croatian government has given in to the ICTFY's pressure, and is sending some of their military leaders, who are widely viewed as heroes in their own country, to the Hague. According to the Institute for War and Peace Reporting: "The authorities in Croatia are arresting innocent Serbs to diffuse nationalist anger over the detention of Croat war crimes suspects." A few months ago, after Croatia arrested several of their own military personnel on "war crimes" charges, they also arrested eighteen Croatian Serbs. The men declared their innocence, and began a hunger strike, at which time Yugoslav President Kostunica accused Croatia of violating their human rights. But who will defend a Muslim hated by the Bosnian Muslim government?

A WAR CRIME

General Charles Boyd, deputy chief of the US European Command at the height of the Bosnian war, wrote in Foreign Affairs magazine [9/95] that Abdic created "one of the few examples of successful multiethnic cooperation in the Balkans." Gabriel Partos, writing in today's [July 20] BBC News, speculates that had Abdic actually taken over as president of Bosnia, history "might have taken a completely different course as he was always willing to strike a bargain with Serb and Croat separatists." This willingness to negotiate contradicted the policy of the fanatical Muslim separatists and the US government. The US armed and trained the Croatian military, whose leaders are now being judged and punished by America's allies. Meanwhile, Croatia is punishing a Muslim peacemaker and innocent Serbs – such is justice after NATO's Balkan victory.

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Kladuscani su iseljeni po cijelom svijetu, i mnogi ne misle o povratku, zato sto Kladusa vise nije Kladusa kakva je bila...

 
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September 20 2002, 12:46 AM 

A nismo morali slusati Fikreta Abdica. Mogli smo da cujemo sta nam je Gadafi porucivao. On moze biti i ovo i ono ali ga niko ne moze optuziti da je izdajnik svoje vere. Naprotiv on je cio svoj zivot posvetio borbi da korist od bogatstova njegove zemlje ima iskljucivo njegov narod.

Ovo je bio nas slobodni izbor. Izbor izmedju Alije i Fikreta je bio izbor izmedju islamskog ekstremizma (Irana, S. Arabije, Egipata, Turske...) i razuma koji vam je nudio Gadafi. Da li smo napravili dobar izbor buducnost ce pokazati (brze nego sto smo mogli i zamisliti).

Medjutim, izgleda da svako od nas mora sam doci do svije istine. Ma da bi bilo mnogo mudrije i jeftinije da se ucimo na iskustvima drugih. Ali be to bilo i suvise ocekivati od nas na Balkanu.

PS: Dali se varam ili je F.Abdic bio taj koji je dobio prve visestranacke izbore u BiH koje je kasnije Izetbegovic (nekako) prigrabio!

 
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September 23 2002, 3:14 AM 

Ni manje ni vise Fikret Abdic dobio 20 godina cuze.

 
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September 23 2002, 3:15 AM 

presuda je jos uvijek nepravomocna.


 
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September 23 2002, 3:16 AM 

Bas bih voleo da znam za sta..?

mozda,sto je branio svoj napaceni krajiski narod od pomahnitali , islamskih zveri , koje su ppd rukovodstvom islamske zajednice i SDA,nasilno hteli da i ovaj Balkanski narod ponesu u mrak islamskog fundamentalizma i terora i da ga zavade sa komsijama sa kojima su pomenuti vekovima ziveli..

Nemoj da se iznenadis ako u nekim buducim danima fikret bude jedini legetimni zastupnik Balkanskih naseljenih Arapa ili onih srpskog porekla, na ovim prostorima..


 
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September 23 2002, 3:18 AM 

je sad problem? Zalite se GOSPODINU STIPI MESICU!!!! mozda vam pomogne? mislim moze ako hoce ali ako nece nije moj problem.

Sto vam drugo preostaje nego da zalite i da placete. Placite, placite manje cete pisati.

Nejma vise Zlobe, i Tudjmana.


 
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March 20 2004, 10:39 PM 

ako je fikret tako dobar zasto ga vi srbi ne odvedete u srbiju pa nek on tamo napravi agrokomerc i zaposli srpski " narod"

njega ce hrvati ubiti u zatvoru.
on nikada bosne vise vidjeti nece.

 
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March 20 2004, 10:48 PM 

da odgovorim T_S,
reko si da je ovaj narod vekovima u slozi zivio.
procitaj malo historiju.
koliko je srpski " narod " poklo Bosnjaka od 1918 pa do danas.
kakva je kraljevina srboslavija bila prema nama.
onda rat 1941-45.
koliko je bandit drazo poklo.
pa sad ovaj rat 1992, koliko je tu poklano.

ali sad ce vas bog kazniti.
cigani jedni vi cete izgubiti kosovo i crnu goru.
vas ce siftari poklati.

 
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Zar jos niste skontali???

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April 25 2004, 9:07 AM 

zar jos niste skontali da je Fikret Abdic najveci kvisling,izdajnik bosnjackog naroda i muslimana u Bosni i Hercegovini?

To samo jos debilima nije jasno!

 
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May 21 2004, 11:06 AM 

fikret je prevarant, prodo je svoj narod koji jos uvijek vjeruje da im je on spasioc.
okrenuo je vlastiti narod da se bori protiv svog vlastitog naroda, posjedujem snimak kada on 1992-ge razgovara sa ratkom mladicem onako jaranski dok ovi razaraju sarajevo....upznao sam covjeka koji je bio u toj njegovoj vojsci, pa sam se on kaje i kaze kako mu je brat bio u bh armiji, a on tamo i da je bio takvih slucajeva puno...pa gdje to ima? lahko mu je bilo i zavesti takav narod kad su gore u kladusi svi glupi ko tocak i neskolovani. ovaj mi isti poznanik kaze kako je on napustio skolu poslije 4-tog osnovne da bi radio u agrokomercu jer su bili siromasni i eto on mi jepokreno tu firmu i najeo ih pa mu zato vjeruju.

 
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June 10 2004, 1:40 PM 

anti-fikret - ti si legenda ovdje, stvarno! Svaka cast! mamu im srpsku.... probaju propagandu ovdje kao da je covjek dijete kad cita. Brate kako bih sad za jednu sablju hehe

BOSNIA I SANDZAK!!!

 
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June 12 2004, 10:42 AM 

Dragi moji sugradjani ja sam rodjeni Kladusan i dovoljno dobro sam upoznat sa Situacijom U Velikoj Kladusi te sire u regiji Bih,
meni je jako zao sto je Fikret Abdic uspio izmanipulirat tolike mase stanovnistva Bosanske Krajine. Naime Fikret je sistematski po planu njega i njegove Brace poceo manipulirat lokalnim stanovnistvom jos pocetkom Osamdesetih, kada je shvatio da uzimanjem tudjih dijela i svojatanjem tih dijela i aktova kao sebi zasluznim te u svrhu stvaranja skoro mita o samom sebi da je on osgovoran za sve sto je ikad izgradjeno i napravljenu u Velikoj Kladusi i sire.
Naime to nije bilo tesko izvesti kad znamo da je Krajina Bila jedna od Naj-Neizgradjenjih dijelova Bivse Yuge, pa takodje da je Vise Obrazovane gradjane (Fakultetski) bilo moguce prebrojat na prste! vecina stanovnistva je samo imala osnovno-elementarno obrazovanje pa nije bilo ni tesko izmanipulirat to stanovnistvo u svoj osobni interes!

Dragi moji Bosnjaci I svi ostali Bosanci Gradjani BIH , nemojmo vise lagat sami sebe to je previse Pateticno!

Fikret Abdic je samo LOKALNI SVERCER i ratni zlocinac nista vise ! zasluzeno je u zatvoru i tamo ce ostat do kraja! te takodje nije on ni mogao ni znao sprijecit rat, niti moze nit zna pokrenut Bih privredu!

Ovdije pricamo o regionalnom Problemu Balkana, koji nemoze niti jedan pojedinac Rijesit!

jos da naglasim ja nisam clan SDA te nisam nikad bio!

HVALA!

 
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Bosnjaci , Slaveni, Indo-Europljani

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June 12 2004, 11:46 AM 

T_I

moram ti kazat da si stvarno ili Glup ili neobrazovan, Nazivat Bosanske Bosnjake arapima, ti si totalno izvan svih Frekvencija zdravog razuma!

Bosanski Bosnjaci su Indo-Europski slavenski Narod poput Slovenaca,Hrvata,Srba,Rusa,Slovaka itd
Iskoristicu ovu priliku da te Obrazujem bar malo:

E ovako Kada su Slavenski narodi zapocel velike seobe jos u sedmom stoljecu nove ere, tad su svi bili samo slavi ili slaveni kako se danas govori. u tim seobama ili migracijama slaveni su dosli i do Balkanskog puluotoka te se naselil po vecini Balkana da preciziramo danasnje teritorije Bivse Yuge.

U to vrijeme Nisu postojal Srbi,Hrvati,Bosnjaci, slovenci itd.

svi smo bili isti!!!

u daljnem perioudu zapadni dio Balkanskog Poluotoka je pao pod zapadno Krscansku influenciju, te je istocni dio pao pod istocno Krscansku influenciju,tad su se pocele pravit razlike, nije bilo muslimana istina u tom periodu ali takodje jos uvijek nije bilo ni srba ni hrvata niti bosnjaka! svi smo jos uvijek bili slicni ili imenovani po provinciskom polozaju, u daljnjem vremenskom periodu, negdije u devetom ili desetom stoljecu pojavljuje se Bosanska crkva, Bogumilska Krscanska Vijera, tada se i prvi put Bosanski narod pocinje Etnicizirat kao Bosnjacka etnicka Grupa, koja je zivijela na prostorima danasnje BIH, takodje prvi put se spominje i Bosanska drzava u 10 stoljecu, tadasnja Bosanska crkva je bila na stalnom udaru od zapadne katolicke crkve te takodje istocne ortodoksne naime jos u to vrijeme su Zapadni Krscani htijel da prisvojataju Bosnjake(Bosanske Bogumile) pod zapadnu katolicku crkvu, veoma slican rad su takodje radili i istocna ortodoksna crkva malo kasnije.
Istina je da se I srpska drzava spominje po prvi put na prostorima danasnje srbije u 10 ili 11 stoljecu, koja je bila pod Ortodoksnom (pravoslavnom) crkvom u to vrijeme, Hrvatska Drzava u to vrijeme nije postojala i nije nikad spomenuta sve do kraja 18 stoljeca ( Iako Hrvati tvrde da su najstariji narod ) ha h ah a !!! Tudjmanova politika!
u daljnem periodu znamo da su Balkan poharavale razne Vojske zbog Geografskog polozaja ali balkanski narodi su bili poznati ratnici za svoju zemlju pa su uspijel opstat svoji na svome!
Pritisak Zapadne i Istocne crkve nije popustao prema Bosnjackoj Crkvi te su u nekoliko navrata i zabranili Bosnjacima da praktikuju svoju Krscansku vijeru! koja je bila iskljucivo Bosanska (ne srpska ili Hrvatska) u to vrijeme niti jedan stanovnik Bosne se nije zvao Drugacije Nego Bosnjan! ili Bosnjak (nova verzija) nije bilo Srba ili Hrvata to jest Katolika ili Pravoslavaca U BIH U Tim vremenima!
15 vijek navala Osmanlija na balkan te Okupacija Balkana je donijela i islam na prostore Balkana.
Tada jos izmoreni Bosnjaci pod Pritiskom Osmanlija te takodje izmoreni od Konstantne Borbe za svoja slobodna prva vijerovanja koja su imal sa Zapadnim i istocnim komsijama vec vijekovima. Mnogi Bosnjaci zapravo vecina Uzima Islam Vijeru, zbog mnogi razloga a ponajvise Beneficija, privilegija koje su dobili od osmanlija uzimanjem vijere. te takodje u inat Zapadnim Katolicima i istocnim Ortodoksima koji su ih prisiljaval ratovima i zabranama vec vijekovima.
tako da Bosanski Bosnjaci bivsi Bogumilski Krscani Prelaze na islam te ostaju Isti Europljani,slaveni te Bosnjaci!

Nikad nisu bili Arapi i tvoja teza nema smisla! Ni turci nisu ARAPSKI narod tebi za informaciju!

Naime Srpska politika o svojatanju ostalih Balkanskih naroda ne-posustaje te kroz lazne pro-srpske ideoloske verzije tumace na samo sebi prihvatljiv nacin zbivanja na Balkanskom polu-otoku!
Hrvati takodje rade slicno i mnogo podliju veliko-Hrvatsku politiku!

u daljnjem periodu kroz austro-Ugarsku,Kraljevinu Yugu, te SFRJ , Bosnjaci se Guse kao etnicka jedinica na prostorima Bih i sire, te se prozivaju 1974 Muslimanima (Sluzbeno) to je najveci trik Veliko srpske i Veliko Hrvatske politike koji je napravljen u zakon, sa idejom ma viste ili srbi ili hrvati samo Muslimani.

Musliman je znacenje generalnog smisla za sve Ljude islamske vijere, te se nemoze koristit kao Ime nacionalnog ili etnockog identiteta!

Na Bosnjacku srecu imamo veoma dovoljno Istorije i kulture vise od 1000 godina koja moze potvrdit da smo Europska,Slavenska , Bosnjacka Etnicka zajednica ili Nacija, Koja jest slicna , koja govori isti jezik, koja ima isto porijeklo kao Srbi ili Hrvati ali nije Nikad pripadala pod Srpsku ili Hrvatsku Etnicku ili nacionalnu grupu!

Sto znaci da danas kad imamo svoju maticnu zemlju, medjunarodno priznatu, slobodnu, te dobro smijestenu izmedju nama slicnih neprijateljski raspolozenih komsija, srba i hrvata, to je to nasa Bih mozemo praktoikovat koju god mi vijeru zelimo pa i Islam, ma koliko vam to smetalo, nama je zao ali mi zivimo u svojoj zemlji u kojoj mi pravimo pravila igre!

Moram Priznat da smo Najplemenitija verzija Juznih slavena!
naime mi smo jedina juzno-slavenska etnicka Grupa koja nema pretencija svojatanja ostalih da pripadaju nama,(kao sto vijekovima rade Srbi i Hrvati) naime mi se ne bunimo biti mali europski narod, i nemijenjamo Istoriju da bi odgovarala samo nasim potisnutim zeljama, to je vec poznat posao koji vijekovima rade Srbi I HRvati, to je njihov Pateticki problem!

Mismo samo jedan mali Europski narod slavenkog porijekla!
Mi smo Bosnjaci!
hvala,





 
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July 14 2004, 4:56 PM 

FIKRET ABDIC JE cojek i ostace cojek đe bi bijo sad unsko-sanski kanton da nije bilo babe bila bi jos vise u sranju nego sto je sade posle rata ako je ko mogo spasti bosnu to je bijo fikret jer alija ocito da je htjeo biti ko hitler i bijo je nacist al mu na svu srecu nije uspjelo ako bude kakav covjek kada jos ko babo mozemo se nadati boljima vremenima

 
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July 14 2004, 5:04 PM 

Fikret Abdiè je car za bosnu. A ti anti-Fikret što kažeš da su Kladušèani glupi moreš mi dva puta sa zaletom popušti kurac!!! ŽIVIJO BABO I DNZ!

 
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Re: Fikret Abdic - Legenda !!!

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July 14 2004, 5:08 PM 

Fikret Abdiæ je bio legenda od èojeka a onaj Alija isti ko Hitler samo htjeo rat, zbog njega je tolko Bošnjaka i poginlo. A ti anti-Fikret što kažeš da su Kladušèani glupi moreš mi dva puta sa zaletom popušti kurac!!! ŽIVIJO BABO I DNZ!

 
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Re: Fikret Abdic - Legenda !!!

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July 15 2004, 11:19 AM 

Svaka cast Babin.Volim kad covek pise kratko i jasno,a ne ovi sto prepisuju iz knjiga budalastine.Da je bio Babo umjesto Alije,danas bi Juga bila u Evropi,rusioci Jugoslavije propisno kaznjeni,ne bi se mi ovako mrzili i napadali,mudzahedini bi bili u pustinji gdje im je mjesto,umjetnici i intelektualci bi zivjeli u svojoj zemlji a ne po svijetu,praveci mjesta tupanima,kvaziintelektualcima,mediokritetima da se afirmisu krojeci istorije i granice,stvarajuci lazne identitete nacija,plemena,stvarajuci alibi za idiotizam i plodno tlo za fasizam.

 
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