is call Joel's on Joy in Detroit. South Lyon now, actually. He's the best, PERIOD. They can do a reliable piece with out the tricks of the week, if that is your request. I went from taking two spares everywhere we went, to running 250 passes with a transbrake in a Super Stocker with no problems. It changed my whole program. He did my first one from him in 2002, and has become the best C4 builder on the planet. He does them for Ford, and either provides the pieces or does the trans for most successful C4 users. The freight on the crate is insignificant.