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1966 Ford pickup power steering

December 14 2011 at 2:38 PM

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Would like to install power steering on my pickup. I purchased a bendix power steering box so I wouldn't have to alter the steering column. I have a pump/bracket/pulley setup from a 1969 LTD to use. Is it as simple as running the two lines from the pump to the box? The LTD setup has a small fluid cooler that mounted to the air conditioning bracket, which I'm not using. Can I safety remove the cooler, or would it be better to fabricate a different mount and continue to use it?

Appreciate your thoughts on this.

Thanks

66 Fairlane GT Silver Blue "BRUTE" Genesis 496/C4 - 10.03@133mph
66 Fairlane GT Nightmist Blue Survival 465/TKO600
66 F250 Camper Special Rangoon Red 428/4-speed
2000 Lincoln LS Sport Black 5-speed
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Bendix box....

December 14 2011, 2:40 PM 

I do know that these boxes tended to leak and I've been warned against going that route. Maybe someone can chime in on this?

1966 F100 LWB
390 .060 over, Comp 270s, F427 intake, headers, C8AE-H heads, 2-1/2" duals, C-O-M with 3:55 gears and posi.

 
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Re: 1966 Ford pickup power steering

December 14 2011, 2:54 PM 

I have 2 of these trucks with power steering. One Bendix and one later model. They both work perfect no leaks.

The 73-79 Box is pretty much a bolt in they can be bought reman for under 150.00. If you have all the brackets they should work. Only possible issue is the hose fitting into back of pump and the return location (the way it points)

 
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Just one of many Bendix threads:

December 14 2011, 3:07 PM 

I'm sure some get lucky but I've seen it time and time again....Bendix boxes are wimpy in many Slick owner's opinions.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/866953-bendix-power-steering-conversion.html

1966 F100 LWB
390 .060 over, Comp 270s, F427 intake, headers, C8AE-H heads, 2-1/2" duals, C-O-M with 3:55 gears and posi.

 
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What size is the crankshaft pulley on your Bendix setup?

December 14 2011, 3:32 PM 

I have two pulley sets...one from a 1969 F350 that has the two alternator and a single smaller diameter pulley, and one from the 1969 LTD that has two sheaves for the alternator and a large diameter for the air conditioning and power steering.

66 Fairlane GT Silver Blue "BRUTE" Genesis 496/C4 - 10.03@133mph
66 Fairlane GT Nightmist Blue Survival 465/TKO600
66 F250 Camper Special Rangoon Red 428/4-speed
2000 Lincoln LS Sport Black 5-speed
[linked image]

 
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Also note that the Bendix box also uses a shorter column than a manual box...

December 14 2011, 3:32 PM 

The column for a Bendix box is about 5/8 shorter than a manual column so if you have enough slop in your column mounts you can slide the column up closer to you and it will work but tolerance stack and worn cab mounts etc... can make it too tight on some trucks. The Saginaw column is several inches shorter so you always have to change/modify the column but on a Bendix you have a 50/50 chance of getting away with it. Hawkrod

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Yes sir

December 14 2011, 5:42 PM 

It works fine for me. I used an old manual sector from a 66 2wd to set my highboy up but then I went to Carquest and got the Bendix reman. It's a crap shoot on the ratio I found out. The power sector only needs two turns to go from lock to lock. The manual sector needed three. I eliminated the little cooler also.

K

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It isn't a crapshoot on the ratio

December 15 2011, 5:49 AM 

The ratio is specific to teh box. If you are getting a Saginaw box it has one ratio, a Bendix is another (although it is really close to the Saginaw) and a manual box is a third. They did not change them. Hawkrod

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39 Ford Deluxe Coupe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln Premier
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 Ford F250 4X4 w/460 swap
86 SVO mustang
76 F250 Crew Cab
1969 Mach I
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Bendix the same as Ford?

December 15 2011, 9:11 AM 

My 74 F350 2wd PS box had considerable play, and a leak from the sector shaft seal at the bottom of the box. I talked with a well respected local steering gear rebuilder, who said this was rather common wear, as there was no bushing or bearing at the bottom of the sector shaft. So over time, the machined hole would become egg shaped, causing excessive play, and leaking seal. His solution was to bore the hole larger, and install a bearing into the case. The fresh box made the truck drive much, much nicer to drive. But I don`t recall actually seeing any Bendix name on the box, rather just Ford. Is this the same box? I also know a guy with a 69 F250 Camper Special, his PS box was quite different, in that it had a large, angled unmachined "lug" on the box casting, which pointed towards the engine, and prevented his headers from fiting the truck, the same headers cleared my box with room to spare. Any idea which box was which, and what the purpose of that lug was for?

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naa, they are goofy looking things

December 15 2011, 10:10 AM 

The 66 box has a big round bulge aiming 45 degrees back towards the engine. It looks like headers would never fit it.

Looked for a picture but can't one.


    
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which box is this?

December 15 2011, 10:34 AM 

Came out of my '67 F100
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I can never keep them straight which is which.
Both pieces are very low mileage rebuilds I kept after scrapping the truck. Only couple thousands miles, it sat around for a year.

LarryK

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1964 Galaxie 2dr 390/6-71/4spd
1964 Country Sedan Wagon 428/5spd
1969 F100 428CJ/4spd
1989 F100 302/AOD
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that's the one

December 15 2011, 10:46 AM 

That big round bulge sticks inward towards #8 cylinder. For sure used in 66 and maybe 67 did too?

 
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It was on my '67 F100 with headers.

December 15 2011, 1:00 PM 

No problems with fitting.

LarryK

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2006/2009 UMTR Points Champion
1964 Galaxie 2dr 390/6-71/4spd
1964 Country Sedan Wagon 428/5spd
1969 F100 428CJ/4spd
1989 F100 302/AOD
1959 B Model Mack

 
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Glad the headers fit

December 15 2011, 1:16 PM 

May be interested in the parts you have, if you're looking to sell them. Do you also have the pump mounting bracket and crankshaft pulley? Please send me a PM if you would like to discuss.

Thanks!

66 Fairlane GT Silver Blue "BRUTE" Genesis 496/C4 - 10.03@133mph
66 Fairlane GT Nightmist Blue Survival 465/TKO600
66 F250 Camper Special Rangoon Red 428/4-speed
2000 Lincoln LS Sport Black 5-speed
[linked image]

 
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PM sent nm

December 15 2011, 3:51 PM 



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2006/2009 UMTR Points Champion
1964 Galaxie 2dr 390/6-71/4spd
1964 Country Sedan Wagon 428/5spd
1969 F100 428CJ/4spd
1989 F100 302/AOD
1959 B Model Mack

 
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