Yep, MEL isn't as 'cheap' to play with as an FE...but they are not necessarily 'boat anchors'.
First 400HP engine in 58 (Super Marauder)...and I believe one of the first, big, early dragster meets winners was MEL powered.
Sure, they don't have the FE's total competition history, and they are now obscure, can cost some bucks to play with, and heavier.
Love my FE's, but if I had extra money, would love to build a few MEL's, Lincolns or otherwise. Completely vintage hot rod built.
the problem is there weren't very many aftermarket parts made.....but all the right parts were made for a short time....Roots blower intakes, Hilbourn injectors 2x4 intakes and 3x2s and of course a couple log manifold kits to build 4x2 and 6x2s and Isky roller cams ....not to mention the factory 3x2 Super Marauder intake that came with the coolest fresh air box you'll ever see imo....
The bore and stroke was 4.30 x 3.70....so, darn close to the 427...the early heads had what for the time were huge intake ports...comparable to the 427 high riser although slightly narrower....intake valves were 2.14 and exhausts were 1.7 inches.
And, the large rod journals leave plenty of room for offset grinding...I remember reading about a 505 inch MEL stroker in a mustang II back in the late 70s.
So at least on paper the potential seems to be there. In case you didn't know, the MEL engine heads are flat....no combustion chambers in the head..just flat with two valves....the combustion camber is at the top of the cylinder with the shape determined by the top of the pistons.....
......Its like a 343/409 chevy (sorry)
So one thing to remember with a MEL build it's all about the pistons and it's hard to find new ones that will give you the correct chamber contours or find a custom piston dealer that knows how to do it...imo
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Don't know much about interchangeability but ther kinda cool.id like to have one to go along with the 2dozen othe motors loaded with vintage speed equip to line the shop.so drop them boat anchors off in Ohio.
32 FORD P.U.(YBLOCK POWERED W MARINE INTAKE)ALL FORD!!
61 GALAXIE(390 TRIPOWER 4 speed)
67 f100 4x4 390
67 chevelle ss 396-4speed
68 c10 short B
72 c10 lwb(parts hauler)
They brought back memories. I used to get any and all books from the school liberary that had something to do with cars when I was a kid. I don't know what book it was but that rail was in it. I remember thinking that was a weird way to mount a blower. Unless that was popular in the 50s & 60s, that was the car.
of the mel engine in my 57 ford way back when. It was rated at 312 hp and had almost 100cubic inches more than the 292 I took out. And I have to say it was a mistake as it ran good and had quite a lot of torque but for some reason it just wasn't fast. I should have known not to mess with one of these before i did it as a friend of mine put a 430 in his 57 and I raced him one night with my 292 powered 57 before I swapped engines and I beat him. But I was going to be smart and when my 292 got tired I bought one from our local wrecking yard and put it in. Wrong engine I should have messed with the 292 or found a 312 as at that time the FE's were hard to come by. I still don't understand why they were not that fast but I think a cam might have helped and maybe a different intake but none were available then.
Back in the old days we used to buy up the 430's and put them in pickups and some heavier trucks. Makes a great torque engine . In a pickup makes a great tow engine and in a F600 make a great high torque powerplant. I had one in a 57 F600 wrecker, what a difference between a 272Y and a 430MEL , now has a 390 for power.
Eric- it's cool, kind of figured you were joking. Yeah, for the price of one roll of duct tape, "global warming/climate change"
could be stopped- just wrap the entire roll around gore's mouth. Problem solved.
Tom P- thanks for that pic! Only seen 2 other pic's of MEL dragsters, Ted Cyr's and a comp coupe looking thing called the Gizzle Hopper on the HAMB.
I've read the 'thing' about MEL's is that the cam was conservative, due to the target market vehicles, Lincolns and Mercs- those folks don't like rumbly, aggressive feeling vehicles, they wanted smooth and torquey. Have also read that the 430's could get surprising mpg (freeway) in the Mercs. Guess they are like the FE's- original target market was for smooth cruisers. Give them some cam, some compression, and free up the breathing, and it's transformed. Some guy on the HAMB told a tale, think early 60's, of boring/stroking a MEL to like 525 cubes, rowdy cam, multiple carbs, in an F100- surprised the heck out of folks. Another guy spoke of similar I think in a 56 Ford. Nobody believed them that a 'Lincoln' engine could whoop on them.
Old timers say it's all about the combination. Sounds like fun- looks stock, but runs hard.