From time to time the question of High Riser NASCAR use in 1964 has come up on the forum. I always get the feeling that some doubt that single four v inducted HRs actually served in Grand National. Here's an interesting Getty images shot from 1964 that eliminates all doubt. Check out the HR intake that a painfully young Waddell Wilson is examining (left bottom). That's an HR on the engine hoist (being examined by ace H&M mechanic Jack Sullivan and Fireball Roberts). The car in the foreground is Fireball's # 22 H&M Galaxie. The car in the background is my #06 H&M Galaxie, btw. Neat shot.
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The 1965 NASCAR Grand National rules book specifically outlawed the 427 High Riser heads set up (so, too, the 426 Hemi). Ford saw the need to fully homologate the Medium Riser engine in street going cars (as Mopar eventually did in 1966 with the 426) and H&M teams showed up at Riverside in January of 1965 with (literally) a truck load of new MR/SO engines.
...would have fit in a '65 ...if they had been allowed to run. That's because the early H&M Bat Wings air cleaners had a one inch lip around the carb opening that set the cleaner up that amount. Removing that ring (as Fomoco teams did when running 427 TPs in half chassis Fairlanes) probably would have set the A/C down low enough to work. At least with a 1 4V set up. But that's just a guess. I know it was a tight fit with a MR and a Bat Wing (with the ring) in my old Lorenzen Galaxie.
The story on mine is that 1" spacer, the 3310 and a Holley Street Dominator
April 1 2013, 5:33 AM
is just too tall. Can anyone compare the combined height of a proper single 4 HR, and the carb they used? I hate losing my 1" spacer, but it seems like is the only way a 14X3 will fit, even my drop base universal wouldn't fit. A factory generic drop housing off of a 360 would close but you could not put a piece of 1/4 wood across the air cleaner.
I have the hood from my '66 Galaxie 500 XL. The underside bracing on earlier hoods was in the way of a teardrop installation.
My hood's bracing wasn't in the way, and I used a 3' tall teardrop I bonded to it. It even has the properly located holes in the bracing for the hood pins I installed in the radiator support. When I get it out of storage, I will post pictures.
I suspect Ford may have changed the bracing on late production '66 hoods?
Hey are you IndyBigJohn on the HAMB? If so we have met
April 1 2013, 5:45 AM
You are one heck of a historian. I was a teenager in Springfield MO at the Fairgrounds Speedway. If it was you, you flagged a lot of races. I worked as sweep up kid who got to learn something once in a while at Larry Phillips shop, and cut my teeth machining and building engines at Gary Lee's place in Bolivar for Ken Essary, Dean Roper, and a few others. Eventually Larry let me build a few at his place, but Mark Martin moved in and Larry kind of had to let me go.
If you are him, I won a Hobby race in a '65 Chevelle 300, and you were flagging it. We ran on the little dirt track in the middle.I don't know if its you or not, but it was a proud moment.