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Where is Robert?

Does anyone know what happened to Robert?

Posted on Nov 2, 2006, 11:57 PM
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I wish I knew

by Scott

I'd love to talk to him again.

Posted on Jan 14, 2007, 4:38 PM
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HEY!! It's Reagan. And I'm having a party.

Hey everyone, long time no see. So much has been going on with my life it's crazy. I'm working for a defense tech. contractor doing sketch concepts for them, and finally getting my own comic published in the Flight Comics anthology which'll be hitting shelves in June. You all better pick it up, or I will torture your groin.

Anyways, reason I'm showing up here all of a sudden is that I wanted to make an announcement that my fiancee and I will be throwing a phat little house party of sorts down at our place in San Marcos, which is in northern San Diego county on June 4th. It'll mostly be a barbeque/drink/hangout/gamingfest and stuff, but most importantly, a good chance for me to see old chums again.

SO!!! If you want to come on down, let me know. Either reply here or throw me an email at reagandammit@hotmail.com so I can give you the proper address and time for the event, as well as my contact info. I really hope to see some of you again.

Posted on May 25, 2006, 3:11 PM
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Re: HEY!! It's Reagan. And I'm having a party.

by Scott

Hey, I hope you had a good party! I saw your message a little late!

Posted on Jul 9, 2006, 6:27 PM
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what up

i guess that something is to good or not to go in my way we are jsut sitting her and we are on the compter all the time

Posted on Apr 24, 2006, 5:59 PM
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Hey, a real human being on the message board!

by Scott

Howdy!

Posted on Apr 25, 2006, 7:08 PM
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browse girls with swimming suits only, bikini girl with sexy jeans, sexy woman

by sexy girl

What the crap is this?

by Anonymous

Now for sure this message board has gone to the birds. . .

Posted on Apr 17, 2006, 10:42 PM
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Hi

by Tovonaina Andriamampionona

Hello people hows everyone doing?

Posted on Nov 5, 2005, 6:21 PM
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Yo yo

by Space Lieutenant Super-Josh

Doing good, Tovo... what're you up to, brother?

Josh

Posted on Nov 16, 2005, 9:10 PM
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Someone Post, Dammit!

This place is a ghost town, but once was so active. Well, I don't have much to say. I'm about to head back to Sarasota to begin my senior year at Ringling. I'll be working on my thesis. How many of you out there are planning to go to art school or are already attending art school. I'm just curious to know what sorts of projects you are all working on.

If there are any CSSSA-ites from 2000 or 2001 lingering here, I'd LOVE to hear from you. Email me or . . . post! I miss you all! . . . weeps

Posted on Aug 14, 2005, 8:55 PM
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Ummmmm . . .

by Scott

I guess I can just start talking to myself here now . . .

So how are you doing Scott, you ol' buddy!

Where the hell's the rest of y'all?!

Posted on Oct 1, 2005, 12:09 AM
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Hi

by Space Lieutenant Super-Josh

I check this a lot less frequently now, I guess.

---Josh

Posted on Oct 11, 2005, 9:48 AM
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wow

by Scott

Hi!

I don't check here frequently either, though I used to be here every day, say, three or four years ago . . .

Posted on Oct 13, 2005, 2:24 PM
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i switched to engineering in 2001

I guess I should explain why/how I switched from animation to mechanical engineering.
As a kid I loved to draw and could not get enough cartoon watching. When high school came, I was privileged enough to go to school of the arts high school (in the 415-fo sho.. san francisco, if you didn't get that...) Anyway, after CSSSA I went to SF community college and took gen ed, flash and 3D studio max. I didn't mind the programs-but I hated sitting at the computer for so long. I loved to draw-not sit in front of the computer. Then I remembered what one of the CSSSA teachers said when we went on a field trip to Pixar- "Most animators will become inbetweeners"-that sucks! I also missed my math and science classes and decided that I could be both creative, advance in technology and jump into a demanding field by becoming a mechanical engineer. At first I thought I would like engineering design-then again .. there is auto cad D: so then I decided to focus in thermal/fluids (still mechanical field). Now I have an internship and (sit in front of a computer) write energy efficiency reports for facilities.
I am still in school (i am president of the society of women engineers SWE at SFSU) and I am finally graduating in spring 07...
now to answer your question:
My senior project is to design and build a HPV (human powered vehicle) for the ASME (american society of mechanical engineers) competition. I am also designing a snow gun for my mechanical design class.

Posted on Nov 6, 2006, 9:56 PM
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Remember what I said those three years ago on the last day of CSSSA?

Remember on that "graduation" day of CSSSA 2002, when I said that I enjoyed the experience so much that I would try to come back as many times as I could?

I'm an animation student for CSSSA 2005! And as soon as I can apply for CalArts, I'm doin' that shit like it was fine fine woman! or fine fine manwoman damn!

(if you're wondering, I went 2002, 2003, snuck in a few days for 2004, and am going for 2005, all for animation.)

Posted on May 10, 2005, 5:15 PM
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Wow . . . Three times?

by Scott

I used to think they drew the limit at two acceptances. I went two times myself, in 2000 and 2001, before your mad CSSSA streak begin. I tell you I feel very fortunate to have gotten in the second time, especially since they don't take too many people from out of state. CSSSA is just so great you have to go more than once! I'm glad you are enjoying it so much and congrats on being accepted again . . . amazing!

Posted on May 29, 2005, 9:31 PM
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Hey, Zoe, congratulations!

That fucking rocks. I'm coming up for alumni day. Do you know when it is?

Lieutenant Josh

Posted on Jun 4, 2005, 12:38 PM
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csssa 2005

by michael

Hey, I just got accepted to CSSSA for this summer and I'm tryin to find ppl who were in the music program...seems like only art ppl have websites. Can you hook me up with anyone? Wanna know what its really like...n other stuff.
thanks
michael

Posted on Apr 29, 2005, 9:59 PM
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Erik's sister was in that.

by Space Lieutenant Super-Josh

I haven't heard from him in a long time, but I'll see if I can track him down for you.

Lieutenant Josh

Posted on Apr 30, 2005, 1:51 PM
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that'd be cool

by michael

thanks. when did she go there?

Posted on Apr 30, 2005, 9:23 PM
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i'm going this summer

i haven't ever been before, but i was just trying to find people at all who are going. i'm not in the music department, i'm a visual arts major, but i found a guy who went before (but he was also visual arts)

Posted on Jun 2, 2005, 2:59 PM
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hey! I'm in for creative writing. . .

Maybe I'll see you there? What kind of visual arts? Excited?

Posted on Jun 29, 2005, 8:50 PM
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i got into usc

:D life is pretty good. hey elliot, i'm gon be visiting there sometime soon in the spring, maybe i can meet up with you or something?

Posted on Mar 9, 2005, 4:37 PM
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How the fuck did I find this place?

I don't know. But hey everyone! Good to see this alive and kicking. Alright. Let's be opinionated! I go first. It strikes me that Western Animation is going down the shitter. Forgive my shitty language. Mainstream animation is anyway. So how many animated films where in the box office this year? Someone please tell me it was more than 4. And again Pixar is dominating the charts. And it's not like Eastern Animation is far off either. Since I've been working at TokyoPop (LOOONG since retired due to the fact that that company is a leech. Fat, and sucking) I've noticed that Anime is lacking the finess, style and story telling that it had earlier in it's "American Golden Age" (and waaaay before). By all means, respond to this and tell me "Alex, you're fucking wrong. You big douche". I don't have all the facts, and I'm not admitting to knowing it all (or even half of it). Also, what's with all these corporate Badniks having all the power? Are we sheep to be herded by the media and rich bastards with money? You know, we only have ourselves to blame. We let ourselves be sold like cheap two-bit hookers. Or one bit for that matter. We have to realize the potential is all in OUR hands. We have the power to draw, write, and self produce. Why don't we do that? Why don't we say, "Hey fat cats, we're tired of getting shitty cuts for doing all the work. Phuck off." Seriously guys, let's get our shit together and start a fucking revolution. "Oh no, there goes Alex on his Artistic Power rant" Shut up. I can and will. I'm out of this blasted cuntry (pun intended) as soon as I can pack some bags, a hefty portfolio and some living cash. Europe, India, or hell even... oh I don't know, CANADA. I'm fed up. I'm tired. I haven't slept because I'm whoring myself out to this stupid project I care nothing about (but it's paying some cash), and I need to make art. Holy shit. Did I just call Animation art? Oh damn. Someone call Eisner. He needs to make a buck off of this. What do you think Disney was doing before the dreaded shitfuck post Lion King era? It was art people. How many of you can discern the difference between the impressionists, the surrealists, and the post-modernists? We need to start thinking about animation in a new light. If I see five more Ward Kimball head stutters this semester, I'm going to... I'm going to... I don't know what I'll do. Anyway. How have you all been? I miss you all terribly.

Posted on Feb 17, 2005, 7:50 AM
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Hey ALEX!

by Scott

Whoa . . . it's been FOREVER since I've talked to you. I'm glad to know you're still alive and pursuing animation still(and I know it's frustrating). I'm in my third year at Ringling now. I still don't feel like I'm making art. It is hard to try to learn everything and make art at the same time.

Pixar is definitely the hottest thing going, but that's because no one is putting in close to the amount of effort these people put in. Most animated films ARE crap nowadays, but the future does rest in our hands. If only everyone cared as much . . .

Well, I don't have time to write too much. Tomorrow I have second pass animation due for my lip sync project I'm working on. Hope to see you here more!

Posted on Feb 27, 2005, 4:51 PM
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INDEED...

Hey Scott! Glad you're still having at it. I'm definitely hoping to work out my own films in the future. I just can't see myself in a studio space, but how knows. Pixar is definitely hot. Great stories, great animation, etc. We'll see where I end up. Hopefully at StudioCanal making films with them. One can dream! Speaking of StudioCanal, has anybody seen, or knows where I can get a copy of Corto Maltese? Trying to find that thing with English subs is like looking for Midas' golden gloves, locked in the box of pandora sitting in a coffer in the lost city of Atlantis. Snong.

Posted on Feb 28, 2005, 2:01 AM
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hello CSSSA ALUMINI!!!

Hey people! this is Tovo. this is the first time that I am posting in here. Just passing to say Hayeeyy!

Posted on Feb 8, 2005, 9:14 AM
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Tovo, You Rock!

by Elliot

Wow... I haven't posted here in ages. Just thought I'd check to see if this thing still existed. In any case, I hope you guys are doing well!

Posted on Feb 12, 2005, 10:56 PM
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:D

hi guyyyyys lol i jus checked in to see if the board was alive.. lol jus like elly belly. =) how are you guys doing? i'm finally a senior.. omg. i feel like a geezer, lol esp cuz most of ya'll met me when i was a lil baby soph. =P hope you're doing well!

Posted on Feb 16, 2005, 6:12 PM
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hullo

hey i got into csssa animation the past year but i didt have enough $ to go.....hi

Posted on Feb 3, 2005, 8:37 AM
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Nice to meet you!

by Space Lieutenant Super-Josh

Sorry I didn't get to really meet you... maybe some day our real, actual paths will cross.

from josh

Posted on Feb 4, 2005, 3:48 PM
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I'm back on the board . . . finally

by Scott

For all of you who haven't heard from me for awhile, I'll let you know what I've been up to. I just recently finished the first semester of my junior year at Ringling. I've been pretty much absorbed by the 3d world and most of my time consists of animating now. And next year, believe it or not, I'll already be making my senior thesis. I start the preproduction work coming up next semester. I have several story ideas already in the works and eventually it will be narrowed down to one. Then I design my characters and storyboard everything. Senior year I'll be creating a two minute animation.

If you want to have an idea of what I've been working on, here are a few links to some of my projects.

Posted on Dec 19, 2004, 8:57 PM
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I'll try the links again

by Scott

Posted on Dec 19, 2004, 9:05 PM
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That's wierd

by Scott

hmmm . . . I didn't intend for that to happen. I wanted there to be simply written links for you click on. I don't have a website to link here, but I'll see if this will work.

www.rsad.edu/~swiseman/ACCESS/swiseman_proj1.mov
www.rsad.edu/~swiseman/ACCESS/swiseman_proj2.mov
www.rsad.edu/~swiseman/ACCESS/swiseman_proj3.avi

The first two are quicktime.

Posted on Jan 13, 2005, 9:12 AM
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The animation is wonderful

by Robert

The animation is wonderful. It is very funny. the main character's nose is a little too long. It doesn't look right. Other than that, your character is wonderful. What program did you animate him in? How long did it take to animate one of these movies?

Robert

Posted on Jan 18, 2005, 11:53 AM
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Thanks

by Scott

These were all animated using Maya 6.0. I agree 100% about the nose. I absolutely hate it, HATE it! Why I ever modelled it like that is beyond me. Each of these projects took about two or three weeks to animate, except for the last one, which I had to punch out in just a week!

Posted on Feb 8, 2005, 11:41 PM
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Why don't you give us a link to your website?

by Robert

Then we can see them there instead of being merged in with the message. Also what format are you using so that I can play your animations on my computer. Are you using Quicktime, Realplayer, or Windows Media Player? Because Quicktime and Media Player are merging on mine.

Robert

Posted on Jan 7, 2005, 9:53 PM
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huurrrhh??

There's nothing like the realization of the onslaught of animation work I'll be doing over christmas break to make my student film for filmasart... ahahaha.... a film about the marriage of Adolf HItler and Walt Disney.

it was originally going to have live action, but my actors couldn't make it

this is good for animation, uh?

... ONWARDS TO SPIKE AND MIKE!

Posted on Dec 16, 2004, 9:17 PM
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Did anybody see the Incredibles? It's Incredible.

by Robert

Did anybody see the Incredibles? It's Incredible. I love it, it's a wonderful movie. I especially enjoyed the voice of Sarah Vowell who played Violet in the movie. She does NRP's This American Life. Her voice is so cool.

Listen to her on this link her:
http://www.barclayagency.com/vowell_links.html

The Animation is wonderful and the story has many cool twists to the superhero formula. Like do Superhero's get bald, get married, have to balance saving the world with raising a family, and other themes are frivalous law suits that prevent them from saving people when others don't want to be saved.

Posted on Nov 21, 2004, 8:56 PM
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dood

by gennady

Yeah but it doesnt hold a candle to shark tale. Sure originality might be appealing to some people, but lets face it, anything new is scary and confusing. Thats why i love shark tale. Songs ive heard before, plot lines ive see time and time again. Plus the character design is superb. I love shark tale almost as much as i love Polar Express. Take it from an animator: motion capture is a lot less work. Why do people animate by hand anymore? Thats why i dont animate. We have actors and sensors for that. I love that "floaty" feel all of the characters have. Its relaxing.

Posted on Nov 26, 2004, 1:09 AM
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Yeah, buddy

by Space Lieutenant Super-Josh

The Incredibles rocked ass. It's one of those movies with no better way to describe it outside of its title. Well, I'm gonna go get me a burrito.

---josh

Posted on Nov 26, 2004, 4:55 PM
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Puppets

by Robert

I just love the way the characters were animated on the Incredibles especially Helen Parr. The way she made funny faces to Jack-Jack is realistic even though it's not. It's almost like she was a puppet/doll for a moment. It was really cool.

Posted on Dec 7, 2004, 7:22 PM
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The great motion capture debate

by Scott

I can definitely see the advantage of motion caputure. It is a much quicker alternative to actually animating everything, but I don't feel it is absolute in its capability. I view motion capture as a jumping off point. Ideally it should be altered by animators in order to make the characters move in a more interesting way. I love the Polar express, but the fact that the animators were not allowed to exaggerate or change the facial expressions bothered me. Much of the time it felt like I was looking at emotionless doll faces. The entire purpose of using animation as a medium is to have the freedom to exaggerate the action, even if only slightly. The animation of Gollum was extremely successful because the animators were allowed to perfect the animation and the facial expressions created through motion capture.

Posted on Dec 13, 2004, 6:31 PM
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whats been going on in my animation world

So I got a job as a TA in an animation class for sixth graders over the summer, and last week we had our last class, which was a field trip to Warner Bros Animation. Not extremely exciting, but two awesome things happened.
1) I got to shake the hand of the man who created Yogi Bear, Scooby Doo, The Flinstones, The Jetsons, and half a million other cartoons. Yes, Joe Barbaera was there. The only words of advice he gave me personally was that I need a haircut.

2) We got to see a clip from the upcoming show The Batman, and it's gonna be pretty cool. It tries a bit to hard to be "hip" and new, but for the most part I think it's gonna be fun.

Also on another note: there was some incredibly awesome concept art and storyboard art for the Kangaroo Jack animated movie/show. It's gonna suck, but the art is incredible.

Just felt like sharing that with fellow animators! Talk later,
-David K

Posted on Aug 15, 2004, 12:02 PM
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Hey, David, man, I would like to apologize

I remember at CSSSA 2002, one night you came into the room to find me reading or drawing or something, and you said,"Jeez, do you ever go OUT?!!" And you were right in assuming that I, in fact, did not ever go out.

Now, if my life had continued as it was 2 months ago, it would've never crossed my mind that I was doing you major psychological damage-- obviously, you needed time alone, you needed personal space. Well, now I have a roommate who never leaves his post on the bed. Every time I go into the room, there he is. Or sometimes he'll have a girlfriend in there, which is even better... hell, who can argue with not only never having alone time, but also having to share the air in a 10 x 10 cell with 2 other people? Not me. Hell no.

So, David, I finally see exactly where you were coming from, and I wanted to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize. This weekend he's having 2 friends over. Yeah, to sleep. I'll definitely get my punishment, that's for sure.

Anyway, it's nice hearing from you-- that's pretty kick-ass that you got to meet Joe Barbara. Kick-ass as hell. How's college working for you? Is it treating you like a son? Or... is it treating you like... a daughter?

Anyway, I gotta go rock that homework. Stay death-defying.

Lieutenant Josh
Mercenary Squad Contributing to the Bane of Evil

Posted on Oct 21, 2004, 6:40 PM
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Hi! I hope it was fun~

Hi! I hope the years csssa kids had big fun :.)

I heard some from 2002 was there too, SuperJosh, Kim...
(Nancy Thai<3 told me!)

I hope it was fun this year too!

And, hi to all the others I did not speak to in so long. My AIM
changed to AkDongSarang

so please if you get on! =))

See you later, enjoy the rest of your summers~~

Love Always,
Pee<3

-pee.mon.net-

Posted on Aug 6, 2004, 10:48 PM
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It was fun....

Deedee!!!
Woot I think I kept updated on wut we did so far...
But it was a fun experience. Now I understand why you told me you missed it ;__; Too bad I can't come back fer another year!!!!

Neh, are you planning on going to any artschool or return to CSSSA as an alumni guest :3

Take care!

Nanshi

Posted on Aug 13, 2004, 10:02 PM
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hi nan!

hey! glad you had fun! :.)

actually to return...

im not going to CalArts, but im dying to visit to L.A....

are you going back as alumni?

it would be very fun!

however, i dont think i'm cool enough ehehe

....but L.A. ALL THE WAY! =)

Love Always,
Pee<3

Posted on Oct 12, 2004, 7:47 PM
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I want too..

by nancy

I want to go back as an alumni XD but I dunno if I ever have the chance to go back down there.

I soo want to go Calarts maybe in four years XD;;;

Posted on Nov 8, 2004, 9:48 PM
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I made a blog...

by Bevin

I'm trying to use this summer as my time to catch up with other people in my class in terms of drawing skills and experience, so I've been practicing art/animation related stuff for approx. 12 hours each day this summer. It's really hard, boring stuff that I'm working on, like drawing geometric shapes in perspective without a ruler, and doing 1 min. gesture drawings, and animating boring stuff to try to get the mechanics right. Sometimes it gets really hard to stay on task because there's so much not-so-fun stuff to be done, so I've started a blog to track my progress.

Here's a link: http://bevinsblog.blogspot.com/

Pretty soon I'm going to start posting some of my work on there, and even though it's just gonna be a bunch of boring crap, I'd really appreciate it if some of you would give me some comments and critique on it. I've made it where anyone can comment without having to sign up for anything or use a password.

Thanks,
Bevin

Posted on Jul 3, 2004, 2:01 PM
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animation

I was hoping there would have been a link to a sample of your animation, not just your writing....I think you will accomplish what you want.....hang in there. teresa

Posted on Jul 27, 2004, 3:02 PM
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ACCORDIAN GIG!!

CALENDER

O.k., here's the deal. I'm going to be playing with (or rather, I'm going to be playing as part of a show, so I'll be playing solo) the Evangenitals on the 5th of July twoothousand4 at El Cid in Silverlake.

You can also check out <lj user="juliachrista">'s lj, who happens to be in the band of the EVANGENITALS. and I have heard half the Evangenitals.. I'm happy to say they rock.

P.S., although it's only about 15-20 minutes, it'd be cool if some of you could make it. Don't try if it's too troublesome, I don't want to give you evil time.

Posted on Jun 28, 2004, 1:57 AM
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I'm back home and back online! Yay!

by Bevin

I've been cleaning out my room since I got back from California. I just cleared out a space for my computer so I haven't hooked it up until recently. Grrr...I hate room cleaning. How did I end up with sooo much crap?

Anyway... I've been waiting to tell you guys that I finally got to go to Pixar! That place has to be just about the most awesome place in the world! It was even better than I imagined.
You know all that stuff they show on the DVD features and you're like "yeah, right, like they really do that kind of stuff at their office" but it's actually true. In the animation area they have their own little stage and their own bar and they have music performances on Friday nights. Everything is decorated all crazy and it really is kinda like a shantytown with all kinds of stuff thrown in there. It's not anything like the places I visited on the CSSSA "animation studio" field-trips with the tiny identical cubicles for each person. It's not like an office building at all. It's like nothing I've ever seen before.

Alan was so nice to take me through and show me all the stuff like the big screening room, and the small screening room where they do dailies, and all the art gallery sort of stuff upstairs. He also showed me all the stages of one of the shots that they go through when they animate it (like layout and blocking and animation and then the final shot). That was really cool. I got to eat lunch at the cafeteria there, and we sat at the table next to Andrew Stanton and Lee Unkrich and Bob Peterson. That was so awesome. It's funny that I see so many famous people in Nashville and I totally don't care, and then I see famous people at Pixar and I totally flip out.

I know that some of the people on this board have been to Pixar, but I thought I should share my experience, especially for those who haven't been. If you've never been to Pixar, you should definately try to get in somehow. It's so worth it. I'll probably never get to go back there again...*sigh*...I guess I better get back to work so I can perhaps be ready to apply for their internship at some point.

Hope everyone's having a nice summer!

Bevin

Posted on Jun 14, 2004, 11:19 AM
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Re: I'm back home and back online! Yay!

I want to see you and love you and say "HEY! HOW YA DOIN'?" :B
I miss you, but I'm glad that you are having a good summer time!

Posted on Jun 28, 2004, 1:58 AM
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Re: I'm back home and back online! Yay!

by Bevin

Hi Zoe,

I tried to call you on a couple of days when I was in LA, and I never heard back from you. I miss you and I wish I could've seen you while I was there. I dunno when I'm gonna be in LA again. Probably not for a long time, though.

Posted on Jul 3, 2004, 1:27 PM
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All of California's gonna know she's mine...

Yo, is anyone here who's applicable planning on going back to CSSSA? I'm just curious, cuz nobody's said anything about applying again or going back or what have you. So, yeah, just wondering.

Anyway, I'm going back, so if any of youse are planning on coming on visiting day, definitely don't change your plans or I'll burn your house down. Now, which would you rather have: no house, or a warm reception from an old friend? I can give you either or both. The choice is yours.

Anyway, I love you all with every part of my body (this includes both testicles and yes, even my esophagus) but I have mercenary work tomorrow morning which requires my being awake at 4 AM. So I gotta go.

Bye bye!

--Lieutenant Josh

Posted on May 28, 2004, 8:33 PM
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Hi

by Josh

Josh, my name is Josh too. I'm 17 and live in cleveland. I am new student attending CSSSA this summer and am really excitied. I assume you've already attended. I am going to be in the animation program, what program are you in? I was just wondering what you think of CSSSA, and if you had any advice on what to bring. I look forward to seeing you this summer!

Posted on May 29, 2004, 5:33 PM
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I may have answers to your questions

I will also be in the animation program... I did attend, in 2002. Let's see... what else did you ask? What to bring? Funny you should ask me... y'see, back when I originally attended, I wasn't much of an artist at all..

I've improved marginally since then (although I'm still pretty shitty on the visual side... don't expect nothin' pretty from me), so let's see... if I were me now, but back then, what would I have brought?

Well, first of all, definitely get a masonite board that fits the proportions listed... i think it was 24" x 30"? Yeah, cuz if you get like some big monstrosity, you're gonna have some trouble, especially coming from Cleveland. Believe me... I come from Texas, also a far-away place. The airport ended up delivering mine cuz it got lost in baggage. Also, don't use the masonite board as a lunch tray. Well, actually, I guess maybe you could if it were the right size. I'm gonna have to try that this year.

Ok, so now I guess I should give you some useful information. They ask for a gallery piece. Bring something you've done in the past that you like. That shouldn't be too hard, right? Uh, don't try to come up with something brilliant the night before if you don't have anything, though. That's kinda what happened to me, and, being the non-artist I was, I began to learn how much I hate markers on that day. I mean, no offense if you like markers, but yeah, markers suck.

You might wanna get an extra eraser to bring along, but there's a convenience store down the way, so that's not a necessity. Bring your music, I guess, cuz my room always liked to share music. I would assume that's a universal thing.

Hm, I guess if you have something you can't live without, like something important to you, that's good to bring. I used to like my harmonica and my cape and my tape recorder. Actually, I still do, so I'm gonna bring those again. Yeah, so if you have something like that, it would be good to take. They ask for something like that for the program, too, if I remember correctly.

Also, you might need to bring drugs and alcohol, cuz it could be hard for a 17-year-old like yourself to get them otherwise.

Hahaha! I'm kidding! Drugs are horrible. Don't bring them. If you do, I won't like you. Also, alcohol. Both of them suck.

So, have a great day. I look forward to seeing you, Josh.

Sincerely,
Lieutenant Josh

Posted on May 30, 2004, 7:31 PM
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Thanks

by Josh

Thanks for all the information. ya, markers suck! you don't have to worry about drugs and alcohol, i don't do drugs, and have never drank. I look forward to seeing you this summer.

Josh

Posted on May 31, 2004, 8:30 AM
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some other tips!!

hello both Joshs, whatsup?

SuperJosh may remember me, David, as his humorous and wiley room-mate. Other Josh doesnt know me, but I might see you when I stop by for a visit. I've been to CSSSA twice, so lemme give you some tips on what to bring:

1) they send you info on what to bring for drawing, and the measurements of the drawing board are really really big for absolutely no reason. Just buy a standard figure drawing-size board. Good enough.

2) my first year when I roomed with SuperJosh, he forgot a pillow. I laughed at him, but many a time since then on various trips I have forgotten a pillow and my neck has payed for it dearly.

3) Also, bring a trash can, and empty it regularly. it's amazing how much crap we throw away each day, and for a while we werent sure what was making the room smell so bad. Then we threw our trash out and it smelled nicer. We learned it the hard way.

4) The beds are not very confortable, especially if you're the last to claim a bed and you get the really uncomfortable one (like our friend SuperJosh.) This isnt a necesity, but a sleeping pad could be nice.

5) Bathing suit. It all depends, really. The first summer I was there, I didnt use the pool at all. My second summer there, my room faced the pool and we saw cute dancers in bakinis all day long from our window, so we went to the pool regularly. Swimming is fun, relaxing, and a good way to meet people, so grab some friends and go some time while you're there.

6) Costumes. No questions, just do it. You'll be the coolest kid ever.

Above all, be there in the moment when you're at CSSSA. Truly some of the best memories and most fun times have been had there, and you gotta fully enjoy each minute. Have a blast, I'm only slightly jelous.

-David K

Posted on Jun 21, 2004, 2:45 PM
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Greetings Josh 1 and 2!

by Elliot

I'll let you guys decide who is the REAL Josh and who is the imposter over the summer...

For the benefit of Cleveland Josh- My name is Elliot and I am a CSSSA animation two timer myself (my second year was Super Josh's first). Oddly enough, I too will be returning this summer as an animation TA. I'm sort of going to be an unofficial CSSSA TA. Like a teacher's assistant's assistant or something. My job doesn't actually start until the second half of the program so I'll be seeing you guys at the end of week two on through the end of the program. Another former CSSSA animator, Kim, will be joining me as a TA as well. I wish you guys the best and will hopefully see you soon!

Posted on Jun 7, 2004, 1:14 PM
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

I get to see all my old friends again! It's like a dream come true. And not like the dream I had last night; indeed, it's more like those good dreams, where awesome stuff happens.

ROCK IT UP

Lieutenant Josh

Posted on Jun 7, 2004, 8:27 PM
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I have a question

by Scott

Would the CSSSAites from 2000 just leave a quick post. I just want to know that you are all still alive. I miss you all.

Posted on May 14, 2004, 7:32 PM
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Well...

by Elliot

Okay, I guess I don't count since I'm a second generation CSSSA'n, but I can vouch for the existence of at least some of your buddies. I saw Lissa and Jo Jo a few weeks ago at the open show. Both of those guys are creating fantastic animations and seem to be relatively happy. Lissa's animation involved some sort of DDR kitty busting moves left and right and Jo Jo's was about this depressed little girl who finds happiness through a flying pony. I haven't seen Gennady (not that we really know each other anyway) but word on the street is that he's holed up in some cavernous lair at CalArts creating amazing artwork. I saw an animation that he worked on at the open show (some sort of collaboration where he did some 3d modeling). It involved this air battle sequence that was truly amazing. So yeah... that's about all I know about the 2000 folks. Maybe some of 'em will get off their bums and post here once and a while!

Posted on May 18, 2004, 5:28 PM
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Re: I have a question

Hey Scott,
I lost your email address... Like to know how things are going, email me =)
Ive been doing some animation for a Movie, and a few tv shows.
Also went drawing with Gennady at the zoo the other week.

Hope all is well,

~Anand

Posted on Oct 12, 2004, 4:22 PM
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well scott

by gennady

Ive been planning for my future. Shopping around for cardboard boxes. The trick is to find one that isnt too big as it wont sag too much when it rains in the dark alley way i will live in. Then i will draw anime girls and tentacles on it. That way more people would give me handouts.

Posted on Oct 15, 2004, 5:42 PM
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.....

by jojo

ive got stick you can use for a saggy box

Posted on Jan 24, 2005, 2:08 AM
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it's been a long time since i've last been here

by jojo

im doing okay, school is okay, it also sucks but i think im just getting antsy to graduate and finally find a job and a place to call home

i finally bought my first computer to i can finally bookmark this thing

Posted on Jan 24, 2005, 2:06 AM
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New Incredibles Footage

HOLY SHEEYIT!

clicky clicky for sneaky peeky

The animation for this baby looks INCREDIBLE! AHAHAHAHAHA *dies by evil death of evil proportions (YOU DO NOT TELL A PUN LIKE THAT ONE, OR YOU DIE.)*

Posted on May 13, 2004, 12:16 AM
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opinions of colleges

as some of ya'll may or may not know, i am a junior this year and am starting to think about college! (gasp!) and as my fellow art peoples, i'd like to hear your opinions or about your experiences in the college world. I know some of you have proceeded on to art schools, and i know that some of ya'll have gone to universities/colleges. I was jus sorta wondering about the differences between taking art related courses in either school, and how things are working out for you where you're going and that sort of thing. it would be realli helpful because i'm starting to look at specific colleges now and getting freaked out with the whole admittion ... ok i can't figure out how to spell that.. but the whole admittion thing makes me hyper ventalate. hahaha anyways jus drop a line or email me if you have anything you'd like to share about your college experience! thanks

Posted on May 4, 2004, 6:42 PM
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Re: opinions of colleges

by adam from csssa 03

the application is a big hassle. just brace yourself for that. the waiting isn't as bad as it is made out to be.

Posted on May 4, 2004, 10:15 PM
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deep breath

by Elliot

I made the college app process suck for myself (mainly because I'm an indecisive stress prone freak). That being said, there's no need to get all bent out of shape about it. Looking back on things, I definitely applied to too many schools (including ones that I wasn't all that interested in). Sure it's good to apply around, but don't go nuts. Another thing to keep in mind is that where you go really doesn't matter as much as what you make of it. I know that probably sounds really stupid, but the reality is that regardless of where you go you're going to have a whole bunch of new experiences, meet new people, and learn a whole lot so you can't really lose. This year was hardly perfect for me, but I don't really have any regrets. There are a whole bunch of things I would have really missed out on had I not gone to the school I did.

As for the whole art school vs. university thing. I can only give you my perspective coming from somebody enrolled in an art department within a university, but I'll also try to pass on some info I've gleaned from Alex about his CalArts experiences. Both routes have their advantages and disadvantages and neither one is going to give you everything you want. Basically, I'd start off asking yourself whether or not you are fully comitted to going into an art related career. If not, I'd definitely recommend going to a university since you'll be exposed to more people of varying interests, and you'll just generally have more opportunities at your disposal. Also, a number of universities have really nice art departments if you want to keep the creative juices flowing.

However, if you know you want to go into an art related career (particularly an ultra competitive one like animation) then your decision may get a bit more tricky. The reality is that art schools provide much more rigorous, professionally oriented training programs that are designed to get you an art job. Additionally, your fellow students at an art school (generally) have better drawing skills etc. and will push you to improve faster than you might otherwise. This can be great for some, but it can also be really stressful and limiting in terms of the broadness of your experiences (I've heard that a lot of the general education classes are a joke at CalArts).

Taking this into consideration, I decided to go the university route. So far its been going pretty well, but I have to be extremely self motivated to keep my art skills on par with my art school friends. This means looking beyond the work of the people in my classes, and not being complacent with getting an "A" in the class. Ultimately, my grade doesn't matter if my portfolio isn't good. Animation is really important to me, so I've made the effort to take extra drawing classes in my spare time, to make personal animations and live action films with other students on campus, and to seek out the top notch faculty members who can teach me the skills that I really need to learn. This has been a really tough process (although rewarding as well), and I can't really say at this point whether my efforts will actually pay off.

Yeah... So after all that rambling I probably haven't clarified anything for you at all. If you can glean anything from this, just realize that no school is even close to perfect. You'll have awesome days and shitty days no matter where you go. Every school has something to offer, though it will take some effort on your part to compensate for the things that it is lacking. Just try not to stress about it or anything. In the end things will work out for the best

Posted on May 5, 2004, 9:30 PM
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Now for the sales pitch

by Elliot

Of course I want you to go to your dream school (wherever that may be), but if it was up to me I'd have you join me at USC. Some perks.... lots of food variety, top notch sports (if you're interested in playing or watching), the best damn college improv comedy troupe that I have ever seen (and they perform for free), great weather year round, a gorgeous campus, access awesome events in LA, and some spiffy students and faculty members too.

Posted on May 5, 2004, 9:35 PM
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Here's my experience

by Scott

As you may have seen from some of my earlier posts, I'm attending Ringling School of Art and Design. I was attracted to the school because of its computer animation department, which is considered by many to be #1 in the country. I also liked the friendly small campus atmosphere of the school.

What I believe is the primary factor in deciding what school to go to is what you most want to go into career wise. If you want to do computer animation your obvious choice would be Ringling (as it was for me). If you want to do traditional animation, Cal Arts would be the top choice (being to top traditional animation school.) If you are seeking a career more as an independent film maker/ animator who would show work in a film festival, RISD would be a likely choice. If you want to be a painter I would highly recommend Kansas City Art Institute.

I completely relate with what you are going through. I remember the confusion I felt when applying to schools. There were so many routes to take. I agree with Elliot that you shouldn't go nuts with applying to too many schools, but you should definately keep your options open and apply to a fair number of schools so you have the freedom to change your mind. So have plenty of backup schools, because you never know, one of the schools you consider to be only a back up may later on become your first choice. This is exactly what happened in my case.

At first I had my heart set on going to RISD, partly because many peeople call it the best art school in the country. But I visited the school and I didn't feel really comfortable with it and I noticed that the animation department was using outdated equipment. Training on this old equipment would in no way help me get a job. Then I also visited Ringling which I had only applied to on a limb, considering it only a backup, and I fell in love with the school.

You also have to visit the schools if you can. It is expensive travelling to these schools but well worth the investment. If I didn't visit the schools I probably would have chosen to go to RISD and later I would have been disappointed. A school catalogue can only do so much to present the school to you. First hand examination of a school is invaluable. It gives you the chance to preview the school and ask lots and lots of question.

Also regarding art schools vs. universities I agree they both have their advantages/disadvantages. I chose an art school over a university because I like the idea of being at a small school. It gives you a chance to really know people and to develope a tight-knit community. Also, the level of talent at these art schools is pretty amazing and you learn so much from the other students work. It is competetive, yes. But the desire to keep up with everyone else keeps me on my toes. I do agree that if you are not sure art is what you want to go into take the safe route and go to a university. Either way you can't go wrong.

Reflecting on my experience at Ringling thus far, it has been very challenging and straining. I've had strict deadlines to meet and sometimes I have had so much work that I had to prioritize the things that most had to be done and not worry about doing the rest. There were also very few breaks. In the past school year I've been working on projects seven days a week most weeks from the time I wake up till the time I go to sleep(which sometimes would not be until very late at night.) I am also realizing now that I have to detatch myself with grades. I've caused myself a lot needless stress worrying about getting good grades. Straight A's are almost an impossibility at art school. So the key is to just be content with having a few B's and knowing that you did your best. I'm not trying to scare you, I just wanted to let you know what it is really like. But if you are ready for challenges and are driven to succeed you'll be fine. It will be a tough four years, but if you do your best you'll be ready for the real world.

I know I've just been rambling on, but I hope I've been of some help!

Posted on May 12, 2004, 7:47 PM
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Some input..

Currently I'm applying to the Alberta College of Art and Design. It's basically the Art Center of Canada, only better (from what I hear). It's a concept artist's wet dream, but not much in the ways of animation. I'm gearing up mainly for entertainment industry illustration, hopefully.

Anyway, colleges to avoid:
The Art Institutes - Should go without saying. I hear nothing but bad news about them.
Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD) - This place is like Mordor. I know people going there who say it's the hugest scam since Scientology. I asked about this school to a few different people at a Portfolio Day event, since SCAD wasn't there and I was curious. The replies I got were along the lines of "We.. don't talk about -them-."

Posted on May 7, 2004, 7:44 PM
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ugh . . . I don't like SCAD either

by Scott

SCAD is like Ringling's rival school, if you can call it a rival, because it doesn't really seem to be doing all that well. The Computer Animation Department there is iffy. They don't teach as much concept development as they do at Ringling and we all know we need to have GOOD STORIES for good animation! The school also has a weird schedule. I believe there are only five or six months of school per year at SCAD. What's up with that? They want to compete with other art schools but they are in session for two months less than most of the other art schools.

Posted on May 12, 2004, 7:59 PM
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Thanks for the replies!

thanks =) i realli appreciate all the input u guys gave me!!!

Posted on May 18, 2004, 6:40 PM
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Re: ugh . . . I don't like SCAD either

by anonymous

dude you are a moron. Scad's semesters are 3 months long and they are year round. We have concept developement our senior year. Ringling is no better then scad.

Posted on Apr 29, 2006, 2:54 AM
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Re: Some input..

by Zoe, the tall

I want to clarify a bit about Reagan's comment of the Art Institutes.

Please do consider:
San Francisco Art Institute
Chicago Art Institute
and Kansas City Art Institute (<-- I will be a freshman there next year. Yay yay art school!)

They are their own separate entities with entirely respectable programs. Unfortunately they are also the sad victims of the infamous chainstore Art Institutes. The Art Institute of San Francisco is a vastly different school from San Francisco Art Institute.

If there's an 'AI' before the name of the city, run screaming.
If there's an 'AI' AFTER the name of the city, embrace it with much love.

That is all!

Posted on May 19, 2004, 5:34 PM
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I'm starting a new website!

by Bevin

I've decided to start a website specifically for animation students to talk about the stuff affects them the most. I thought it would be really cool to have an online community of a whole bunch of animation students from different schools, so I'm trying to start one. It may not work out, but I thought I'd let you guys know about it and see what you think.

Link: http://webspace.ringling.edu/~ccarnes/animationstudents.html

Direct link to the forum: http://animationshare.proboards30.com/index.cgi

Posted on Apr 10, 2004, 11:16 AM
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Way to go!

by Elliot

I endorse any and all efforts to promote animation related things. Best of luck!

Posted on Apr 10, 2004, 7:58 PM
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Okay, I can't delete a post, so please ignore the above link

by Bevin

I put a section on that site that would allow students to share notes from visiting artist lectures and apparently the Ringling faculty found out about it and has a big problem with that, so I'm taking the whole site down for awhile and possibly never putting it back up.

Sorry about that. <

Maybe once I get out of school I'll start a community to help students. I think that would be a fun thing to do, especially since so many of my friends are younger and would still be students once I get out. And once I'm out in the industry, I can help students with info I learned from experience, so that no one can say I'm sharing information that belongs to them. Sorry, I'm just a little upset right now. I'm gonna go away before I get into any more trouble.

Posted on Apr 11, 2004, 9:17 PM
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crap!

by Bevin

Now I'm even more annoyed that the board turned my sad face thing into a smiley face. Grrr... I hope everyone is having a much happier Easter than I am! :P

Posted on Apr 11, 2004, 9:19 PM
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WHAHOOOOO

Missy lady my friend Bevin, I am so happy that you are making a website! Now we can be checkin' ye arts 𤦂d thingies! YES!!!!!

I'm happy

for you!!!
and do not mind the stupid internet for being stupid. you rock no matter how much it screws with your typing! yes.

Posted on Apr 14, 2004, 8:41 PM
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Question for California peoples!

by Bevin

I have some questions for people all over Cali:
If I was to come to LA on the week of May 8th or so, and then drive to the San Francisco bay area, would any of you peeps be in either of those places? I dunno when anybody gets out of school, but I really want to see some of you, so I'm trying to schedule my summer California trip when I might have a chance of seeing my CSSSA friends.

Also, does anybody know of a good place to stay in the bay area. Some place that's not really expensive, but not really gross and scary either?

Is there any time in the summer that would be better for me to come in terms of both getting to see you guys, and also in terms of weather (I heard it was rainy and cold in the bay area in May. Is that true?) My parents are going to a meeting in LA the week of May 8th, but I don't necessarily have to go that week if it's not the best time.

Posted on Mar 28, 2004, 11:39 AM
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Hmmm

by Elliot

Bevin,

I think classes end for me May 11. I should be in town, but I don't know if I'll be working or not. Regardless, I'm sure I could visit for a bit. Alex may be around too, though I'm not sure. I think CalArts may end a bit later...

Posted on Mar 29, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Do you remember that CD I said I'd try to make?

Hehehee... Do any of you remember when I said I'd try to make a CD? Well, I couldn't before, due to the fact that I had no way of recording anything.. but NOW I CAN. and I DID. That's right. I made a CD of UTTER SHIT!! o.k., so it's actually not all that bad, if I do say so myself.
So you may wonder "how can I get me one of those?" or "who are you?", I say contact me at zoeisfunky@sbcglobal.net and we'll talk.
Most likely, I may have to actually charge something like... $2.00 for the CD's if more than three people want them. CD's and cases do not come cheap for me.
Thank god for Cosco, though.

so yeah.

oh, and just in case you doubted it, Havana Gila is on there, don't worry.

love you all,
Zo�.

CAN'T YOU SEE MY GLEAMING SMILE?

Posted on Mar 20, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Sign me up!

by Elliot

I will most definitely purchase one of your musical creations. Can't wait to hear what you've got!

Posted on Mar 25, 2004, 10:18 AM
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I want one too!

by Bevin

Yay! I would also like to experience the musical madness of the Zoe! I still have that little 10 second or so video from Shelly's CD she sent me of you playing the corn song or something. :P I love that video XD

Lemme know if you can send me a CD and I'll give you my new (school) address.

Posted on Mar 28, 2004, 11:20 AM
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question

by Drew

Hey all.
I'm an old fart. I went through csssa in like 94 then again in 95.

settle a quick argument for me and a couple of my friends ok?

do YOU say SUB-LEVEL (2 seperate words)
or subLEVel kinda like falaffel hehe.

also. is "jennifer boyd is a good kisser" still in the sublevel phone nook?

Posted on Mar 20, 2004, 12:09 AM
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Hi!

by Scott

I pronounced it as SUB-LEVEL. I don't recall "jennifer boyd is a good kisser" but there is so much stuff on the walls it's possible I've overlooked it.

So what department were you in while at CSSSA? What are you up to now? Are you still in the arts? I can't help but be interested when I see someone new finding this message board. It is basically abandoned now, but alas new people here and there keep finding it!

Hey feel free to post again!

Posted on Mar 23, 2004, 3:22 PM
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hmmmm

by Elliot

I'm a sub-level guy. Sure I slur the words together, but I don't put any stress on the LEV part. More like SUBlevel. In any case... If you went to CSSSA in '95, do you know Corrie Francis? Just curious...

Posted on Mar 25, 2004, 10:22 AM
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Has anyone seen The Passion of the Christ?

by Robert

Has anyone seen The Passion of the Christ? Whoa, this movie has created immense controversy a year ago and it still is. Partly because Mel Gibson made the movie with his own money and whether it is Anti-Semitic or not. Why would a movie about Christianity create immense controversy? Then a movie about Islam or Buddhism doesn't. Sounds like a double standard.

The Passion of the Christ has already in the fir