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Rubble and cement wall colors

July 27 2003 at 6:55 AM
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Hi,

I would like to know what colors I should use to paint rubble from buildings. What about the cement wall color of the bunker during the Omaha beach invasion? I use Tamiya colors, any suggestions on what colors I can use?

Peace,
Aidil

 
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for the bunkers :

July 27 2003, 12:24 PM 

Hello,
the bunkers on the normandy beaches were camouflaged. The germans used camouflagenets, earthbanks against the walls or paint; you can use brown, green, sandcolor etc., depending on the color of the surrounding ground.
pascal bastiaens

 
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Re: Rubble and cement wall colors

July 28 2003, 3:40 AM 

Just as Pascal already mentioned, German bunkers in WWII were usually camouflage-painted, as well as dug into the ground and further hidden with camouflage nets where this was appropriate. Patterns varied depending on the area the bunker was in (after all, a bunker doesn't move, so it could be painted to match its terrain), including fairly exotic patterns: there are several photos of a still-existing bunker in my town that has plants painted on it, for example.

As for colors, they were pretty much the same as those used on stereotypical WWII German tanks, I think: dark yellow with green and brown camouflage. For the dark yellow, Tamiya's color by that name seems a good match (which I say based on examining a few square meters of original paint on a bunker just last week), though you may want to make it a bit more tan than yellow (adding in some Dark Earth might do the trick). The brown seems to have been a fairly chocolate brown (again based on some small samples of the real thing, though the ones I examined had been exposed to the weather for 60 years); starting with Tamiya red brown and adding some black will probably get you close. I haven't found any green samples yet, but then, I haven't really looked for any, either

The interior of German bunkers was flat white, but the entrance had a triangular area of dark yellow, running from the top of the doorway down; examine some of the photos at http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/afv/bunkers to see what I mean.


As for rubble from a building, it would generally have the same color as the materials used to construct that building: brick red if the building is made from red bricks, etc., but remember that a collapsing building produces a LOT of dust, that will cover pretty much everything. I think you'd need to decide what color the dust would most likely be, after which you can paint (airbrush?) most of the rubble and surrounding areas with that.

 
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Ed Gilbert
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raw concrete

July 28 2003, 2:26 PM 

Main thing to remember is it's not pure gray, but has a brownish tinge from the weathering of iron minerals. Floquil railroad colors has a very good color called Concrete to replicate the broken edges or just unpainted concrete.

 
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Paul Hanson
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gray and brown concrete

August 17 2003, 6:15 PM 

The brown is not from iron minerals, but from the coarse aggregate used. Gray concrete is tinted that way from the limestone aggregate while brownish tinted concrete is colored from the river gravel used.

PH

 
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