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Hi all, I have a problem and am in need of help…
I am building a diorama and I bought a T34 1942 production. I only realized after that one cannot get a good set of Russian troops here in South Africa. So I had to change the theme of my diorama [keep in mind that I’m a student and am working on a tight budget and the choice of different kits are very limited.] So anyway I decided to base the diorama around the tank being attacked by a group of German SS troops equipped with panzerfausts, panzershrecks and those big anti-tank grenade thingies. So you see that the tank is 1942 production and the panzerfausts etc. only came out in 1943! I suppose that doesn’t really matter since there would still have been some model 1942 T34s around in late 1943 right? I really want the diorama to be historically correct. Also I wanted to know a bit about the german camo, I used pea pattern on my SS troops since it was most common and I believe it was issued throughout the war, and came in the form of smocks [the jacket things they put over the standard uniform] and as a standard type of shirt]. Anyway, do any of you have some advise about the camo and of any ww2 info websites. Also 1 last thing, panzer crews wore black right?
Yes the T34 will work for late 43, even 44 as the Russians repaired & referbished them.
The Pea pattern was not a smock, but a standard M43/44 type jacket that some wore as an extra piece of clothing during the winter over the standard grey uniform or as the uniform it self. But no smocks were made of it.
Actually the most common SS camo was probably the oakleaf (eichenlaub.) That was made into smocks, helmet covers, zelbauns. Erbsen (pea dot) was a late war pattern and made into uniforms to replace the field gray one. Now you are pushing the date into 1944. The black panzer uniform was used thoroughout the war, but SS crews had camo uniforms and coveralls too--as early as 1943.
Repaint your SS guys with field gray uniforms, give them eichenlaub smocks and you'll be safer.
The pea-pattern camo began to be used around the spring of 1944, by SS troops.
It can be used as combat uniform in summer dress, or over normal uniform in winter.
From an historical point of view...A T34 model 42 can exist as late as end of 1944(photos around Leningrad after the breakout of the long siege there); so why not on another point of front?
But...hand-held german anti-tank weapons began to be used in mass numbers around early 44; I'm talking about panzerfaust, panzershreck.
So if you want display pea-pattern camo, panzerfaust and T34-42 on a same dio, perhaps a bit difficult!
hi as others have all ready pointed out about the uniforms i can add nothing but the t 34 early type even the 1941 version made right up to the final days for the battle of berlin as shown on uk tv several weeks ago , also new research from russian magazines support this on the epic batles prior to final days in berlin they still had them operational and as per original issue , not many i grant you - but they are turning up in more and more photos , cheers ian