with the improvements and mods that makes them what they are today. Power doubled seal value,bigger knurled bolt knob,longer barrel etc.
I have 2 180's,(just traded one for a 4x12x Hawke)1 QB(22) that was made in southern CA. it still holds air and they are tack drivers.
Sadly I don't think Crosman will bring them back. Sure would be nice.
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