I was totally taken by surprise shooting one of Mr Hollowpoints big bores, I think I fired 4 shots and then with the 5th just got a click and then nothing, the pellet was totally stuck and after refilling the gun I could not get it to fire the pellet and could not remove it, it had to go to Dan McVey for him to remove. Thank god the Rogue he just sent me has an electronic trigger that would not fire when the pressure dropped too low! I hate it when something goes wrong with a customers gun, it makes me feel really bad. I was working on the assumption that when people were talking about the shot count they meant the total number of shots that could be used from a fill, I was not thinking that it was the number between certain pressures, my bad. Anyway it is good to read the different input from various members, there are many varied opinions on the same subject. I obviously have to do a lot more reading and try and get a better understanding of what exactly certain parts of the gun do and how they effect velocity and shot count. This is an interesting topic to me, it is good to understand the workings of air guns and not just have them to shoot them, all the best, Neil.