No scope is made as well as they use to be. Redfield came back

February 17 2017 at 9:07 AM
JD  (Login JamesDingle777)

Response to Scope recoil question....

and they're junk compared to old ones. As I hear it told from a master tuner, one of the best scopes you can buy for under $500 is a Bushnell 4200. they are precisely repetitive, use hardened erector springs, pins. Truly a good scope.
I'm not a Hawke fanatic; but they have AWESOME customer service. If your spring gun kills a Hawke, you call, tell them, send it in with IR # and they send you a new one. No problems. That being said, I'm not a HUGE fan of scoping spring guns due to all the problems I had 8 years ago in the beginning of my serious Air Gun days.
Creep with cheap rings or mount (clean dovetail with Acetone, alcohol has petroleum distillates) use a good mount. On your Diana they make a mount with droop or without it that hangs over the front of the rail and has Weaver rail on it. It's not creeping anywhere.
On my Diana 48 I have a 17.1 compensated droop overhang mount and a Hawke Airmax 4x12x40 with AMX reticle. No problems ever, but if I do, I have the box and receipt and they will honor their warranty.
Hawke has even honored warranties on Hawke scopes that I've bought off of Yellow. Someone could have returned it and had a brand new one. I got it cheap, then I got a brand new one with no problems. Win win for me. Just my opinion, which doesn't count for much. Hope it helps.
A Simmons. If it doesn't say "Air Gun Rated/compatible" I would NOT put it on a magnum spring gun. These common scopes may last on a R7/ R9, HW30/HW50 and especially if the rifles are tuned well with the right pellet and smooth shot cycle; but, don't expect a non air gun rated scope to last on a magnum springer for very long at all. It's almost like fishing for a Shark with 3 pound test. Wrong equipment for the job doesn't get the job done well if at all. Good luck.
Edit: OK, you have a 52, which is the same action as my 48 but a fancier stock. Is your gun tuned? This is up to you. One poster above says he's had no problems with Simmons on most springers (non sled hard snap type) but if you void the warranty by putting it on an Air gun, I don't know what they'd say. Don't know their customer service. You can always say your Rem 700 broke it. You can do anything you want. I personally have learned that a spring gun needs a good spring gun rated scope if longevity, accuracy, repeatability, precision are my goals. I really have to say Hawke is top notch with warranty. Their optics are NOT bad. If I knew now what I didn't know then, I'd scope every magnum springer with a Hawke Airmax. Leapers and UTG hold up well also. I know nothing of their warranties though.

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