Includes gas rams (which they are springers) then its the Benjamin XL, its got more power than any spring powered gun RWS makes...and that includes the 54 and 350. The Eliminator/Crow magnum can edge it out, but the cost, weight, and cocking effort is huge. The Theoben Eliminator is the only thing I can think of on the market today that is the "cost is no object" winner at around $1200.00
This message has been edited by LexingtonGreg on Sep 20, 2011 8:50 AM This message has been edited by LexingtonGreg on Sep 20, 2011 8:47 AM
Look on Pyramyd Airs website. Not saying buy from them,
September 20 2011, 9:37 AM
but there you can view about the widest selection out there.
You can sort by "springer" or ".22 ".
Power does come at a price, as was mentioned before. But all the advice in the world wont change your mind till you get one under your belt.
My advice would be if you get one, have it de-tuned to where it will shoot 15 grain pellets at 800 fps.
Another good piece of advice that was mentioned before is perhaps trying a gas ram for this type of power. IF money is no object, look at a Beeman.
Trust this, that you will not be able to handle the recoil as well in stock form. And FWIW, 800 fps is plenty of power for stuff up to turkey size in a typical .22 cal 50 yd shot(head shots). If you get one to shoot around this area, you will have a better chance at grouping shots.
If you need more power go pcp or pumper. If you still need more, go for a .30 cal or above pcp. If you still need more, go to rimfire.
Good luck and God bless,
This message has been edited by VAFarmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:40 AM
Get a PCP or a lower powered springer..
The more power a springer has, the harder it is to hit your target- consistently.
I would MUCH rather hit my target where I was aiming than to miss my target with a big powerful gun and pellet.
Most guns, about 930 - 950fps seems to give the best accuracy, which is much, MUCH better than missing your target at 1600fPS
but not completely without some springer traits, consistent hold and follow through.. the toughest was the 350 in 22.. it was a bit more demanding.. never had a chinese copy.. tuned or not..
one way to get the 'power' is to get a heavier pellet and larger pellet.. I would think that the heavier pellets and larger pellets are easier to shoot in the same model gun..
that said I like my old 36 diana 177 just fine.. it eats all pellets and sends them out true, is not a bear to cock and is accurate.. top of the line power it is not... that eliminator caught my eye a long time ago esp. if you can go 25 with it..
any 25 just about over a 22 gives or seems to give more power... 177 velocity.. 22 compromise but better hunter for most folks.. then 25... gets my hunter vote.. if I had to drop all the hunters but one it would be the 25..
if it had to be a springer...either a brit patriot.25 or a theoben in 25... my experience is limited but I do know the tx was a great springer, and powerful enough for all my doings.. if it would have been inm 25 I would have been even happier.. did not know it then, though and did not realize how nicely mannered it was...
I've read many owners state their Patriot/Kodiak springers come close or even reach 30 fpe. C.A.P. shot a video on youtube where one of his modified Patriots reached a velocity which obtained approximately 34 fpe of muzzle energy. I'm not sure if it was a .25 or .22 caliber but I wouldn't think the difference between the two would be much at all.
I have a .22 Theoben Eliminator. Depending on the pellet choice it will do 22-30 fpe. That puts it in a very small group of box stock air rifle that can produce this much energy. This is my favorite rifle. Despite the fact that I have a M34, R1, TX200 and HW97, I find myself shooting my Eliminator more than anything else. The rifle is challenging and very large, and quite expensive. It's not for everyone...
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