What is the most powerful BB gun out there? By BB gun I mean regular old .177 BBs like we all grew up terrorizing the neighborhood critters with.
This is a question that came to mind since I've been having a bunch of fun with an old Daisy 99. Fun gun, and it's just got me thinking about BB guns again. I thought I had outgrown BBs decades ago, but aparently not. Anyway, when thinking about BB guns, "How powerful can they be?" is an obvious question.
pun intended of course.
AFAIK, guns designed to shoot BB are generally low power, probably because BB are loose fitting in a .177 barrel (I have measured BBs and they are typically 0.168-0.175" diameter. Now you can shoot BBs in a rifled barrel, but they will wear out the rifling in short order. My most powerful BB gun is the Airmaster 2100, it should spit BBs at about 725 fps, but I haven't and won't shoot BBs in it. I don't believe BBs do well at higher speeds.
I love bb-guns but like accuaccy over high power. One of the best values in a bb-shooter is the daisy grizzly single pump. 290-320 fps ave. excellent accuaccy for a bb-shooter able to get some 10 shot groups of 1 in at 33 ft. not every group about half of them. the daisy 35 on two is 400 fps an 475 an 3 pumps but not as accurate as the grizzly but still a good shooter. MY favorite is the older daisy 880 smooth bore the one with the blue reciever an all metal pump handle check ebay. very accurate an will do 710 fps with bb,s at 10 pumps mine is rebuild. best accuaccy is usally under 500 fps 400 seems about the best. The new red ryder with metal handle is accurate out to 10 yd,s an does about 260-270 fps. THe daisy 499 is very accurate at 5-8 yd,s but past that the grizzy will out shoot it. MY 499 is a hot one crony,s between 310-320 fps an sound like it needs some of jim heavy tar on the spring. Smooth bore seem to alway out shoot gun with rifle barrel.
..and tomorrow I'll get some numbers from a healthy 340. But steel BB accuracy is not its strong suit (power and smooth bore steel BB's seems to be an inverse relationship).
When I hear "bb gun", think of the traditionsal, spring -air, hold a bunch of BB's, repeater. Of the ones I played with as kid, the Older Daisly 25's and the Daisy 1894 (the one made to look like a Winchester lever action) seemed to get the most power. At least they did by the kid-sicience of shooting tin cans.
May not be fair. Old guns seem to have been bored with .177" lead shot in mind. It fits. Steel runs about .173-.174" and just drops though the barrel. With that bit of "rattle around room", they tend to zing off in unexpected directions. Even though a smooth bore, does its best with roun nosed/deep hollow base pellets (seems to need that "rock in a sock" weight stability).
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I think if you could find some body to make a 174 dia smoothbore barrel for a crosman 1377 you would have a pretty nice shooter. I shoot empty shotgun shell out to 20 yd,s with some of my better bb-gun an the smallest dia barrel is 177 an most bb,s are 171-173 dia so I think a 174 or 175 barrel would do good for longer distance plinking.
a Drozd on HPA with a long barrel can easily do 800FPS
September 14 2012, 9:26 PM
seen some claims of over 1000 FPS for fully tricked out guns
another one that gets little attention is the Italian SM45 semi auto carbine manufactured by Marocchi
on high power it blasts copper washed lead BBs at well over 600 FPS through a Lothar Walther barrel, mine is extremely reliable and quite accurate
80 round magazine, only down side is it uses the 88 gram CO2 cartridges
I think you could chase a squirrel up a tree with a clip outta that thing...and probably still have the accuracy to knock him out when he got to the top hehe Very neat for sure. If I may ask what kind of performance do you get from that...and what power source are running?
~ Nate S ~
P.S. I just found out about that Marocchi SM the other day myself...and that looks way cool too...maybe a tad expensive for what it is, but then again, it's Italian made. Imagine it would cost a lot to shoot though.
Thanks for your interest. At the moment the gun is down for upgrading with Sergey's board. (See the forum for more info. If you think it looks cool now, imagine it with an LCD display!)
I have not changed the OEM set up using an 88-gram CO2 capsule for power. The hard-core modders go to HPA of course. The Drozd also requires 6 AA batteries, or substitutes that give greater voltage. The higher voltage drives the feed motor faster, upping the possible ROF.
I've tried the Steel Storm, EBOS, and Drozd. The Drozd is by far my favorite of the three, but is also the most expensive by far.
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