I am not surprised they are not the same. When the die the company is using, and it does not matter if it is JSB, or Crosman or H&N. When a certain amount of pellets are made (I am not sure how many) the die is removed and send for either polishing or they get another die. Then JSB in case of another die will ascertain if the end product will shoot to THEIR specification in THEIR rifles. Then the pellets get sold just to be told over the internet they don't shoot in some ones rifle but shoot great in another. That is why you see over and over advice if you find the pellet which shoots great in YOUR rifle get as many as you can afford. If you wait a while and take more pictures like you did they will be different again. We are talking pellets by the millions not just a month or two. Oh, there is more then one die maker for this process which supplies JSB; JSB just picks the ones it likes.
I am looking forward to more pictures.
A blind man could see the MAJOR differences between these 3 iterations
September 13 2013, 2:09 PM
of "Kings". I do not for one minute believe that the punch die used was similar at all. The "newest Kings" are even different on the outside shape. Seems to me JSB was searching for change effects and the latest just isn't cutting it IMHO!
When an airgun manufacturer like Cricket designs their guns to shoot JSBs, then JSB changes their pellet design, well it doesn't take rocket science to know what the end result may be. The Cricket, in particular, relies on the recess design to locate the pellet in the optimum position when loading. When the recess design or depth changes dramatically, this can create accuracy issues. IMO, this is what is happening with these newest "Kings".
This message has been edited by AndyH44 on Sep 13, 2013 2:15 PM
OK a step back. All I meant by my first reply is the quarter bore is the same caliber then kings a .25. Nothing more or less.
The fact they are NOT identical was not implied. I did not realize the Kricket was designed for the JSB pellet. If so why don't they have a right for the die dimensions like Air Arms? If the agreement between the two companies does not exist, JSB can change the design to what ever they want. I am not sure why they would be at fault in this case. Maybe they like the 'new' design.
if all the companies did that there would not be the discrepancy you found. And my pellet bill would be less, since I would not have to buy such a large amount. I also like the 18.1 pellets. My Kricket rifle seems to like the 16 grain variety. To the point when I get done shooting, I shoot out the staples out of the target with my last four pellets.
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