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Ordered 2 pistols

May 16 2017 at 3:56 PM
melloairman  (Login melloairman)
YF12

A 2300T yesterday and after reading a old post Of Steve's about the 1701P I ordered one of those today .Both from PA. The 2240 started to leak out the barrel so it got mailed to Crosman for warranty repair .Marvin

 
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Tommy
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You will love the 1701p. Just finish modding mine as following. ......

May 16 2017, 5:07 PM 

1.installed 1720 tp .067
2.install bstaley mod 3 #113 orings.
3.5 turns in from zero on hammer spring.
4.hammer throw at zero.
5.adj fps with hammer spring adj.
6.start pressure 3000 psi.adj as per chrony string.
7.chrony a must. Got 14 shots before chrony died. Jsb 8.4 (better bc then 7.9') @ average 670. Judging from poa drop should get 35/40 with tuning.mounted crosman stock and swfa 10x and it shoot one ragged hole @ 35. Need more speed. Drill larger hole in tp. Lots of testing to do.



 
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gubb33ps
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Other end of the scale (5 foot pounds)

May 16 2017, 6:48 PM 

Recentlty un-tuned mine back down to near original speeds as my intention it so use it as a pistol-pistol (offhand/iron sights).

Made a really nice little accuracte carbine when cranked up to about 12 foot pounds...short shot count (about 19-20 shots) but very accurate.


Better serves me as a pistol-pistol than a carbine-pistol (although I added a shroud and a new front sight, it's still your basic 1701).

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think you'll really apprecaite the 1701's accuracy. If you are power hungry, there is only so much you can do with a tiny air volume.



    
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Tommy
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Hey gubb33, drilling out stock .043 tp .075 and see what happen .

May 16 2017, 7:15 PM 


 
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gubb33ps
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Pass..been there....

May 16 2017, 7:33 PM 

Considering it's an open iron sight pistol, used as a pistol rather than scrunching up to it as if it were an "invisible stock scoped carbine", am going to keep it in the 5-6 foot pound range....that 20-25 yards is about as far as I can shoot open sights to a reasonable degree.

If I did want to crank it up, would also add a shoulder stock and a rifle scope...any doubt that a shoulder stock and rifle scope would improve absolute accuracy?

 
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melloairman
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Well to, each his own

May 16 2017, 9:54 PM 

What drew me to the 1701 was the high shoot count and accuracy . The 2300T will get the power outlet conversion I had in the 2240 and be shoot on air . The 2240 was very conservative with air and tethered at 1000 psi shooting 8.5 grains at 500 fps . Put 2500 psi in a 3000 psi 62 ci bottle . Shoot 100 pellets and used 500 psi of air . I shoot a lot and like to conserve air as much as I can . I do have a compressor but it is still easier on me to conserve as much as I can . It takes a lot of air IMO to gain a few FPS . And at 10-20 yards I have no use in going that way . Marvin

 
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gubb33ps
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Only "critters" likely to be shot...

May 17 2017, 5:11 PM 

..are mice, a stray pest bird, and a couple of rather dumb snakes. None really needed more power. Even the tiny volume of the 1701 (and mine is an older 1700..not that it really makes a difference) has enough air on tap to make for a long shot count at that energy level.


 
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Ron Robinson
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Crosman pistols

May 17 2017, 3:39 PM 

The 1701P is nice quality, wonderfully SIMPLE, reliable and serviceable, and will shoot with ANYTHING at any price, for a fraction of the price of anything that will shoot with IT!

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Suffice to say the 2300 is Crosman's contemporary Co2 pistol... but there are plenty of after-market options available. A good (inexpensive) gun to learn basic airgun-smithing on (read that, parts are cheap and readily available).



 
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Crosman pistols

May 17 2017, 10:08 PM 

You have some good looking pistols . I have been looking at a lot of pistols . And with the failures I have had as of late decided I would have to step up some . But the issues I have had made me think about a few things . CO2 and HPA have fewer parts to fail . Some of these imported pistols have no available repair parts . And some of their dealers do not return calls before the purchase so IMO the chances of them being there after the purchase is slim . And I see that many require work right out of the box before they can be used . Yes I had two P17 fail but I had no problem with getting a full refund . I had a 2240 fail but Crosman answered the phone and said send it to use and we will repair it . Yes I could have bought a valve and o ring kit and dealt with it .But let them deal with it why I shoot something else . And yes the parts and service people are all over this planet . I have over 15 BB rifles and close to half of them are after market built [ note I did not say custom ] . And were are their builders today if I need something . Well I did not want to spend this type of money because I hope to move soon and begin to shoot the BB again . But I guess I just jumped into the pistol thing with both feet . But I am going to try and stay with production pistols . And ones that have a good supply of factory and after market parts available . And at this point in time I think Crosman has a line of pistols that meet my needs and are in my price range as well as meet my accuracy requirements . Marvin

 
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