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Self-powered mags.

June 15 2017 at 6:00 AM
Victor3  (Login Victor3)
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I have a Marauder, Gamo Urban and 4 SPAs that advance to the next pellet via mag-contained springs. I'm very happy with their function.

Maybe I'm biased, due to my familiarity with 10/22 mags. I really like their reliability, and feel that similar mags in airguns are probably (all things considered) better than having an additional mechanism within an airgun to advance the mag.

However, there are a few air rifles out there without self-powered mags that I'd like to maybe try.

What say you?

 
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BillE.
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Re: Self-powered mags.

June 15 2017, 8:25 AM 

I really like the non-mech./non-spring mags. like Cricket and others. The gun itself indexes the mag with no springs to wear out or adjust. Never owned a Daystate but i guess some of their rifles use a little blast of air to rotate the mag. That is really trick.


    
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C. Jones
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Self powered mags

June 15 2017, 9:00 AM 

I agree with Bill. I MUCH prefer the metal, one piece, no moving parts mags. I shot a friends Marauder for an afternoon and after the second mag reload I just went single shot. They are a pain to reload..

After owning an HW100, there is no going back. I'll never own a gun with a spring loaded mag again.

As far as complexity, it actually doesnt take many moving parts to make a gun that cycles the mag. My FX Cyclone and Ataman AP16 pistol have very small and simple mechanisms. The HW100 is more complex, but it also offers the convenience of not being able to be double loaded.

That's the biggest reason that I havent bought a RAW HM1000: those spring loaded mags. For guns that cost as much as a RAW and the FX stuff, a spring loaded mag is cheezy IMO.

 
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BillE.
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AND..............

June 15 2017, 9:22 AM 

not to mention EXPENSIVE. $75-100bux for a magazine is INSANE.

 
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James Dingle
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Totally agree. If Crosman can sell self indexing magazines for $15.00

June 15 2017, 4:13 PM 

there is NO reason other Companies have to sell theirs for so much. I LOVE my Evanix Rainstorm One magazines. The generation two magazines are so expensive. The One's have NOTHING to break. Maybe change 2 O-rings every year or two with no disassembly at all. Spring actuated magazines can jam, bind, kink, wear out. Never happens with The Rainstorm One magazines that cost under 20 bucks.
I personally have 2 Rainstorm II magazines; but if they ever break or are lost I will use the single shot trays I'm looking to have made or buy somewhere. If it's not semi or full auto, I don't see the point anyway.

 
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gubb33ps
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"Clock work" mags

June 15 2017, 5:50 PM 

Made my peace with the "clock work spring" mags. Once you adapt to a few things, can live with them.

(OK..aren't many clocks that need winding and go "tick tick" any more...but they ran on those sprial type springs, so I think of them as clock-springs.)

On most, there is no "empty" slot. Either there is a pellet lined up to be chambered or a matal stop...either way, can't put in an empty mag and close the action.

They are a PIA to strip and clean once you drop them in a mud puddle (or cow pie). The mechancail ones can be cleaned out in the field as it doesn't take any tools (a rag and a stick...shirt tail can supply the rag, nature the stick).

Mechanically indexted mags make the rifle itse;f more complicated. Need some kind of roatational hand and some type of mechaical "stop". and they have to stay in time. No way around it, it will add some "extra" feel to the bolt cycling.

All in all, not a whole lot to choose from...but so far, the "clock work mags" have all been thicker and used an open-top type reciever, so have all been much easier to make single shot trays for.

 
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