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HI guys! I'm considering purchasing an FX Independence. Any good reasons not to?? N/t

November 12 2017 at 6:06 AM
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Scott Blair
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Yes, it's heavy and you have to pump it up or just

November 12 2017, 7:15 AM 

Fill like any other PCP.
Stop procrastinating and just get the Wildcat...
Sorry John, but I just couldn't resist... LOL

 
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Kingfisher 1961
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Scott, sell me yours!÷ ; ) Now that you have the Scout Auto 5 you never use it! n/t

November 12 2017, 7:29 PM 


 
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Mike
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John, Houlihan here, call me! I may have what you need. Nt

November 12 2017, 10:09 AM 


 
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Kingfisher 1961
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Houlihan, you're the best! We need more people like you in this world! N/T

November 12 2017, 7:26 PM 


 
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Phil
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There is a Chinese gun on the market....

November 12 2017, 12:01 PM 

...that is Indy-like. Costs around 400 bucks.

Just an FYI. I feel that FX, though very nice products, are over priced IMHO. I'll buy powder burners over an airgun at those prices.

http://hardairmagazine.com/news/nova-vista-hp-m1000-multi-pump-pcp-air-rifle/
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LD
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seems to be Vaporware Phil

November 12 2017, 1:49 PM 

can't find an actual one for sale right now.

 
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william
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Suppose to be arriving next month

November 13 2017, 6:59 PM 

according to the importer

 
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Tom
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I have owned an

November 12 2017, 3:16 PM 

.22 FX independence since mid 2014 and in the time since I have put over 34,000 round through it. The rifle has proven to be incredibly reliable, super quiet and crazy accurate. Out of all the numerous PCP rifles I have owned and still own, the Independence is far and away my favorite.

All of my reasons say to go for it!

 
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Bill in MI
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Pls tell me more about these 34000 rounds....

November 12 2017, 5:57 PM 

I have had an Independence for about 5 years, and have put a tin or so a year thru it. I agree w most everything said so far. Outstanding accurate, a little heavy (like most airguns). I usually shoot three times, then pump 10-12 strokes. I would shoot it more if it didn't need repairs so often.

I have resealed it myself twice. Third time, about a year ago, sent it to AZ to see if he could improve it. He disassembled it, cleaned it up and did some research. He didn't think that he came up w much.

For no good reason I haven't really shot it since getting it back. Have two of next three weeks off, maybe that can be remedied.

How many rebuilds in your 34000 shots?

Any other advice?


Bill
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Ron Robinson
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Kinda hard to get motivated

November 12 2017, 8:50 PM 

Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to get motivated to use a(ny) machine that requires more service time than the time you get to USE it.
Regardless of whether I can service it myself (too much time expenditure) or must employ a professional (too much $$$ expenditure), it sucks!

My worst offenders were a beautifully restored '71 Honda CB 450 motorcycle and a beautiful '65 Chevy C10 step-side pickup. Though the Honda won both classic motorcycle shows it contested, those plastic and simulated-wood trophies cost about $3000 apiece; and the bike broke down (again) every time I rode it. The truck also broke down every time I drove it.... but didn't even win any cheap-*** trophies!

Condolences on your similar experience(s). wink.gif

 
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Kingfisher 1961
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Tom, thanks for the good words about the Independence.

November 12 2017, 7:24 PM 

Unfortunately, the majority of feedback sounds like the fellow in the post below. Bad new travels like Wildfire, good news travels slow!
Fortunately, Mr. H. Is going to send me an Independence to try for myself. Can't wait! !

 
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Slingarian
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who is mr H?

November 12 2017, 9:39 PM 

I have a modest selection of PcP's and a few springers, but have been giving a lot of thought towards and Independence, just so I can take it to camp and not have to lug all the support gear. Unfortunately for me I don't know anyone local who has one, or even a shop where I can fondle one. I'd love to be able to get my hands on one before dropping the coin to buy one without any hands on.


I've heard a lot of good things about them, and some complaints. Best of luck to you in your endeavor.

Sling

 
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Kingfisher 1961
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Mr. H is the Mr. Houlihan.

November 13 2017, 4:54 AM 


 
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Tom
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My

November 12 2017, 9:47 PM 

.22 Independence has been extremely dependable. Maintenance to date has been limited to removing a water droplet on the inlet of the small air reservoir, replacing the pivot bearing in the arm linkage, replacing the breech seal every several thousand rounds or so, cleaning the barrel every 4,000 to 5,000 rounds and cleaning and lubing the trigger assembly every several thousand rounds. I have a full rebuild kit in stock and ready to use, but have not needed it so far.

The rifle keeps on shooting and shooting. In fact after making the post here earlier today, I put another 60 more rounds through it, 48 of those being off-hand.

 
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kelly
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repaired twice

November 12 2017, 11:17 PM 

Mine has been back for repairs twice and still leaked,,I traded on a Royale..kelly

 
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Kingfisher 1961
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Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately all too common! N/t

November 13 2017, 4:58 AM 


 
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Tom
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My research

November 13 2017, 10:16 AM 

before and after I purchased my Independence showed most problems with this rifle tend to be related to earlier vintage models. It seems the majority of Independence problems I read about or spoke with people about, were with rifles from pre 2013. Of course I could be completely wrong with my research, including that date, but none the less, this is what I found out.

One other thing to point out is; I do not think this rifle is good for anyone living in a humid environment. Meaning the east coast, or southeast to gulf coast, or anywhere with similar humidity levels. I am located on the Allegany Plateau in northwest Pennsylvania and during the summer months we typically see only a couple of weeks or so of moderate humidity. During one unusually high humidity period is when my rifle developed the water droplet noted in my last post. But this humidity is always short lived here and overall our summer temperatures are quite low as compared to the rest of the country. This past summer season we had only a handful of days which reached 80°F or low 80's.

When I shot my Independence on this past Friday, the 10th, the weather here was VERY dry with a high temperature of only 21°F. Yesterday saw only slightly higher temps. Overall I am certain these ambient weather conditions have benefited the operating life of my Independence.


    
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Scot Heath
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Mine is a very early model and has experienced 2 factory issues

November 13 2017, 9:10 AM 

One was the broken 2nd stage pump tube, well known issue and I'd wager fixed on any Independence that's out there. The other was an improperly finished hole in the pump linkage that caused excessive wear to a pin. According to AOA, a few did not get final finishing of the hole and were left rough.

In both cases, repairs were done quickly ( I fixed the pump, AOA sent me all the part free of charge).

I did have to replace the pop-off seal last year, it was the source of a slow leak and I replaced the original with a delrin part I made and have had no issues since.

I love mine. I don't own a compressor, tank or any other paraphenalia. It's not for every one but suits my shooting perfectly and BTW, if you do get one (or probably any ST barrel), I highly recommend taking a look at the H&N Sniper Magnum pellets. They outperform the JSBs in my gun by quite a bit.

Also, I added a baffle between the end of the barrel and the end of the shroud and like it very much.

-Scot

 
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Kingfisher 1961
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That's awesome! Thanks for the good information! ! N/t

November 13 2017, 4:56 AM 


 
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