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is it just where I live, or is

January 10 2018 at 10:01 PM
Joe H.   (Login Guthook)
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It getting harder to ship an Airgun without being creative. USPS, UPS and FedEx all refuse to ship airguns here. I know with the security issues we face today precautions are a necessary evil but where has common sense gone.
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Mike Ellingsworth
(Login 4888blues)
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Depends on the store and if they use a outdated rule book

January 10 2018, 10:54 PM 

one fed ex in town won't ship I made them show me the regulation, went to another and they had no problem
same with UPS my local Ups store is fine with shipping airguns.


    
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danb_house
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print the page from their website that describes shipping an airgun

January 11 2018, 11:44 AM 

take it with you, show them that, then demand to see a manager.

Show them the print out

 
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Mike Ellingsworth
(Login 4888blues)
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Good Ideal Dan if it has the date and is newer than their version

January 11 2018, 8:04 PM 

I can go to a fedex that has no problems and I stay away from the other fed ex that does .


 
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dan_house
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Develop a relationship with them and it goes much easier

January 12 2018, 4:18 PM 

But Im surprised in Montana youve had that happen happy.gif


 
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Scot Heath
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What does age have to do with it?

January 12 2018, 4:35 PM 

Do you have evidence it was ever against their rules to ship airguns? I regularly ship both airguns and firearms via FedEx.

-Scot

 
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Mike Ellingsworth
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I had one fedex in town pull up the regulation and read it to me couple yrs back

January 12 2018, 9:24 PM 


dont remember what the regulations stated as its been a while and the manager was a bit irritated that I asked them to show me from their book

went to another fedex and they had no problem

 
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paul
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i don't get it

January 12 2018, 3:21 PM 

Since when does one have to disclose what's in an unlabeled box at UPS or USPS?
None of their business as long as it's not on the HazMat list, no?

 
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R.Belmont
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exactly

January 12 2018, 3:35 PM 

"Anything Fragile, Liquid, Perishable, Or Potentially Hazardous?"

nope.

 
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Paul
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Sounds about right.

January 12 2018, 7:22 PM 

I just answer no at the PO and off the box go's.

 
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dan_house
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until you file a claim....

January 12 2018, 4:19 PM 

then itll matter greatly

 
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Mike Ellingsworth
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My fedex will want to open your box depending on what your insured amount was

January 12 2018, 9:32 PM 

the reason is to make sure it is packed properly, if you say no they won't ship it

Also my Ups & fedex always ask what is it Iam shipping , I think they have a rite to know after all it's a safety issue


    
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John Thomas in Spokane
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The USPS regs for mailing airguns are

January 12 2018, 11:44 PM 

in “USPS Publication 52, Hazardous, Restricted, and Perishable Mail” and are pretty clear.

In summary it says concealable (safe to assume that means any) air pistols that don't meet the USPS definition of a fire arm can be mailed but require an adult signature from the recipient. Air rifles that do not meet the USPS definition of a fire arm can be mailed, with an adult signature required for any that shoot over 400 FPS. All state and local laws apply. The USPS fire arm definition is the same as the ATF's, so all airguns can be mailed.

Here are the USPS links to the pages that apply – The regs have had minor changes over the years and I re-check them every 6 months or so. Sec. 431.6, 432.1 a, 432.2 c & e, 432.3 g, and 433 are the ones that apply to airguns. 433 applies specifically to postal workers who tell you you can't mail an airgun.

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/welcome.htm

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_008.htm

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm


 
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VictorLouis
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My USPS is great, but...

January 14 2018, 4:12 PM 

I do go to the main branch in town, rather than a neighborhood branch. This may not be open to you if you're rural. I have NEVER had them ask what my item is, just press NO in answer to the haz-mat query on the electronic pad. Heck, my local Fed-Ex/Kinkos will even take a handgun going back for warranty on the OEM's call tag. No need to schlep it over to their hub.
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