Zhevele Grcke-Makedonjia! Oslobititi ZA Phillipoupolis! Comitajii VMRO half turks get out of OUR Ancient Land! We Macedonians are against the Bulgarian VMRO! Gruev ,Alexandroff, and Mihailoff were Bulgarians therefore NOT Macedonians! Aristoteles the great Macedonian philosopher wrote in Ancient Greek! Alexander and Philipas built the Empire for ALL our people!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA - EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!
DEAD TO THE GYPSIES FROM ATHINA, SOFIA AND BELGRAD!!!
MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Xipna re Gerkoman! or maybe you are sick from that dreadful disease called { GERKOMANIA? ]

YOUR PEOPLE ARE ORIGIN FROM ASIA!!!!!!
LIBERATION FOR CYPRUS FROM ATHINA AND UNITED CYPRUS
WITH MODERLAND TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!!
DEAD TO ATHINA, SOFIA AND BELGRAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
DEAD TO YOUR PEOPLE AND GYPSIES-ORIGIN!!!!!!

KISS MY ASS, MOTHER****ER!!!!!!!!!!!!

KOTTAS IS GAYBOY AND LIKES TO **** HIS FATHER IN THE
ASS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN GREECE ARE GAYS!!!!!!!!!!

Ti si Glupost! Probuditi! Prihvatiti tvoj Grcki Krv!

GAY KOTTAS YOU ARE A BIG YOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAKE UP YOU ARE NOT ATHINAPEOPLE(GYPSIES ORIGIN ASIA)
BE UNITED WITH THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!

VMRO FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!

are, My grandparents are originally from Bitola(Monastiri) for hundreds of generations. Our anscestors over a hundred years ago never said words like "zdravo dobre utro" (this is a slavic dialect and as we both know Macedonians are NOT slavs). Even your relatives( as mine) spoke Greek many years back (this is a fact). And I am NOT a Grekoman (that is a word the Bulgarians used on any Macedonian who did not fight to be with Bulgaria!) And answer this to me- How come when you go to the museum in Pella or Vergina you see all the artifacts and inscriptures of the Ancient Macedonians written in Greek?(When it was Macedonians who were the Kings of Greece)? You have your head messed up because of Tito all these years! It is time to wake up and accept the fact (like I did!) -That Macedonians are ONE in the same with the rest of Greece! Dovegina!

WE MACEDONIAN ARE NOT GREEKS, BULGARIAN OR SERBS!
WE MACEDONIAN, IF YOU ARE MACEDONIAN BY ORIGIN!?!
WE ARE FOR A FREE REPUBLIC FOR MACEDONIANS AND OTHER MINORITIES WHO HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO LIVE LIKE US!!!
IN GREECE THERE ARE MACEDONIAN, TURKISH, ALBANIAN AND VLACH(ROMANIAN ORIGIN), WHO DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS AND SAY THAT THEY BELONG TO THE MACEDONIAN OR TURKISH MINORITIES GROUP! THAT IS FORBIDDEN, ATHINA SAYS "WE HAVE ONLY MUSLIM MINORITIES IN NORTH GREECE"
SOME OTHER MINORITIES DOESNT EXIST IN OUR COUNTRY!??!
TITO WAS NOT SOMETHING WE MACEDONIAN WANTED!!!!!
TITO DID NOT GIVE US THE FREEDOM, IT WAS OUR MACEDONIA
BROTHERS WHO CREATED OUR REPUBLIC!!!!!
IT WAS BIG MISSTAKE BY OUR MACEDONIAN TO JOIN THE FEDERISATION WITH TITO, WE SHOULD BEEN UNITED WITH EGEI AND PIRIN MACEDONIA AND KICK OUT THE BULGARIANS
AND GREEKS OUT OF MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!
1912-13 IN THE BALKAN WARS GREECE OCCUPIED 51% OF MACEDONIA, AFTER THE WAR IN PELLA AND OTHER PLACES WITH ARKELOGIC HISTORI. ATHINA LET ONLY ATHINS
ARKEOLOGS TO FALSIFICAT AND MAKE INSRIPTONS IN GREEK.
GREECE DID NOT LET OTHER FORIGNERS UNTIL 1929, WHY???
THAT IS GREEK PROPAGANDA THAT TITO AND STALIN CREATED
THE MACEDONIAN REPUBLIC, WHAT A YOKE!!!!!!!!
IN GREEKS SCHOOLS THEY TEACH THIS YOKE!!!!!
MY ORIGIN IS FROM VODEN(EDEESA)PURE MACEDONIANS, I
WAS THERE 2003 AND CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERYBODY WE MET
IN THE CITY OR IN THE VILLAGE THEY SPEAK MACEDONIAN!!!
IF YOU COME TO BITOLA THERE IS NOBODY WHO SPEAKS ELSE
THAN MACEDONIANS, ALBANICS, GYPSIES AND VLACHS LAUNGWICHES!
WHERE IS THE GREEKS YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT!?????!

YOU KOTTAS ARE A THREATHOR, WHO HAS SOLD HIS MACEDONIAN ORIGIN TO BE GRKOMAN!!!!!!!

WE MACEDONIAN FROM THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA ARE NOT
BULGARIANS, GREEKS OR TITTO-SERBS!!!!!
A MACEDONIAN THREATOR CAN ONLY BE GRKOMAN, BULGOROMAN OR SERBOMAN.DEAD TO THIS THREATORS!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA - FOREVER!!!!!
MACEDONIAN FOREVER!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!

Thousands of Macedonians fought to Re-unite with the rest of Greece from the 1800s to 1900s. I can even list you native Macedonians who wanted to reunite with the rest of their Greek brothers (Kapetan Zerva of Serres, Kapetan Christ Kottas from Monastiri, Pavlo Melas whose grandparents were from Kastoria, Panteli Papaioannou from Stroumenitsa, Heracles Patricas from Halkidiki, kostas Dorgis from kastoria, Loukas Kokkinos from Grevena, Kapetan Perdika from Siatista, Alexandros Louis from Vellesa ( Today called Tito Veles), Kapetan dalipis from Kastoria, Athanasios Minopoulos from Halkidiki, Kapetan Vangelis from Strembeno, Giorgios Soulios from Koritsa (originally part of Macedonia in classical times), I can keep going and going!! Who are you saying is Macedonian???? Dame Gruev?? Gruev said very clearly "I am Bulgarian"(This is a fact). The same with Matoff, Jancoff, Alexandroff, Mihailoff,Sandanski ALL said they are Bulgarian THEMSELVES!!!! You can claim to say it is not true but I read history from every countries point of view! And everywhere from Serbia, Russia, FYROM, Greece, Croatia, Bulgaria, Germany, France, England all AGREE that Gruev, Matoff, Alexandroff and the rest of them said themselves that they are Bulgarian! Wake up ,Makedonia ZA Grcke!!!!

YOU ATHINAPEOPLE ARE VERY FUNNY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY
IN EUROPE NOWS THAT THE SO CALLED ATHINA HISTORI IS
A BIG YOKE!!!!!
HISTORI IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPEND NOT LIKE ATHINA
DID AFTER THE BALKAN WARS CREATED A FALSIFICATION OF
THE HISTORI AND MADE MACEDONIA A PURE ATHINASTATE.
DO YOU NOW THAT YOUR ATHINA-KING GAVE ORDER TO DESTROY
EVERY VILLAGE IN MACEDONIA DURING THE BALKAN WAR,
OVER 225 VILLAGES WAS BURNT DOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ATHINA-PEOPLE IN THIS AREAS OF MACEDONIA.
IN THE OTTOMAN PERIOD THERE WAS LIVING 11%PURE ATHINA-PEOPLE IN MACEDONIA AND THEY LIVED CLOSED TO ATHINA-BORDER!!!!!
I HOPE ONE DAY THAT TURKEY WILL INVADE YOUR ATHINA-GYPSIES-REPUBLIC AND KILL EVERYBODY IN A BIG MASSACRE!
FOR A FREE AND UNITED CYPRUS UNDER TURKISH ROLLS!!!
I REALY HATE THIS ATHINA-GYPSIES SO CALLED REPUBLIC!
TO TALK WITH A GRKOMAN, BULGOROMAN OR SERBOMAN ABOUT HISTORI IS A WAIST OF TIME BECAUSE HE OR SHE ARE
BRAINWAST WITH THE PROPAGANDA OF ATHINA- GYPSIES!!!!!

HISTORI KOTTAS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPEND NOT SOMETHING YOU CREATE OVER A NIGHT LIKE THE ATHINA-GYPSIES DID AFTER THE BALKAN WARS!!!!!

TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT HISTORI IS A WAST OF TIME!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA--EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!!!!!

DEAD TO THE GRKOMANS, BULGOROMANS AND SERBOMANS!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

FYROMAN - you can call me whatever you want but the fact is that VMRO is the reason why I know some of your bulgaro-serbian dialect that was forced on US Macedonians in the last 150 years! We Macedonians are happy and live well. You want to blame Athens????????? Hello It is WE Macedonians who are happy to be with the rest of Greece! How can you hate your OWN people you fool?!!!!!!

I WILL GIVE YOU TWO WEBB ADRESS READ THIS:
www.florina.org
www.aromanian.net/articles/art011110.html

IN THE BOTH WEBB ADRES THERE IS A PURE GREEK FROM ATHINA MR. GEORGE NAKRATZAS WHO IS A RETIRED DOCTOR LIVING IN THE NETHERLANDS, HAS BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED
IN THE SITUATION OF MINORITIES IN GREECE FOR TEN YEARS
AND HE ALSO WRITES BOOKS ABOUT IT.
HE SAYS IN THE BOOK 10 YEARS AGO I DID NOT KNOW THAT
THERE ARE MACEDONIANS IN GREECE. I DID NOT EVEN LEARN IN SCHOOL ABOUT THEM, HE SAYS!!!!!
THIS PERSON I HAVE RESPECT FOR, HE IS A REAL HUMAN PERSON!!!!! MAYBE THE FEW IN GREECE!!!!!
HE HAS WRITTEN MANY LETTERS TO SIMITIS, THAT YOU CAN READ IN THE FIRST WEBB ADRES.

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

MACEDONIANS FOREVER!!!!!

Hey , I will look at it because I always want to know what someone wants to say about my background (good or bad). But you should look at this as well, in order to understand the other side of the argument, http://www.diaspora-net.org/macedonia/Macedonia_Index.html -You will find it interesting( ex. look at what language all Macedonians spoke before (the Bulgarian)BMPO came to existance. And what about the Macedonians who want to be with the rest of Greece, you hate them? They (Macedonians) fought to be united with Greece. Macedonians welcomed the Greek army from the south when they came in in 1912. There is many recorded documents that prove this. My grandparents lived in bitola up to 1946, Tito's partizans arrested my grandfather back then for ONLY speaking Greek! He was released a while later and then was told to leave his home "within 48 hours", and had to leave for Canada. Only one aunt remained there, and was afraid for her life to speak Greek to anyone! Now what do you call that, propaganda????A lot of Macedonians from your part have been brainwashed to such a point that you hate your own people , why ??? Because we say we are Macedonians and Greek at the same time???

THIS WEBBSIDE DIASPORA HAVE I READ BEFORE AND IT SHOWS HOW ATHINA TRIES TO FALSIFICAT THE MACEDONIAN
HISTORI DURRING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD IN MACEDONIA AND
SHOW THAT IN MACEDONIA, THERE WERE LIVING ONLY GREEKS???!!! WHAT A YOKE!!!
DURING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD IN MACEDONIA, THE MACEDONIANS WERE DIVIDED TO BELONG TO THREE DIFFERENT CHURSES GREEK, BULGARIAN OR SERBIAN TO BE GRKOMANS, BULGOROMANS OR SERBOMANS.
THE OTTOMAN FORBIDDEN THE MACEDONIAN CHURH AND PEOPLE
TO DECLARE THAT THEY ARE MACEDONIANS.
IN THAT WAY THE 3 COUNTRYS SAW POSSIBILITIES TO DIVIDE
THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE INTO GREEKS, SERBIANS OR BULGARIANS!!!!! AND SAY THAT THIS PEOPLE ARE OURS!!!!
BUT WE MACEDONIANS ARE NOT GREEKS, SERBIANS OR BULGARIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS WHY THE GREEKS DONT NOW ABOUT US AS MACEDONIANS THEY THINK THAT WE ARE BULGARIANS OR SERBS!
IT IS FINISH WITH THIS PROPAGANDA THAT ATHINA,SOFIA AND BELGRAD,TRIES TO CREATE HISTORI WHICH PURPOS IS
TO BENEFIT THEIR HISTORI!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIAN!!!!!

UNITED MACEDONIA - EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did Phillipa and Alexandros unite all of Greece? Why did Aristoteles write all his books in Greek? If they were two different people would they have not try to make only a great Macedonia? Aristotele would have wrote in a different language? But they said how they were proud to be greek! And we both know they were all from Makedonia! Even you can not deny that.

WHEN YOU WILL VISIT HEAVEN YOU CAN ASK PHILIP, ALEXANDER OR ARISTOTEL IF THEY ARE ATHINAS OR IF THEY
ARE MACEDONIANS!??! WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE IF THEY WERE ATHINAS OR SOMETHING ELSE!??! THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ONLY CAN ANSWERED THIS CLIAM THAT YOU HAVE!

I DONT BELIEVE IN ATHINA FALSIFICAT HISTORI, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE ATHINAS DID AFTER THE BALKAN WAR 1912-13, CHANGED THE MACEDONIANS NAMES ON CITIES, VILLAGES, NAMES ON MACEDONIANS PEOPLE FROM MACEDONIAN TO ATHINAS NAMES TO MAKE MACEDONIA PURE ATHINAS AND SHOW THE WORLD "HERE LIVES ONLY ATHINAS PEOPLE"
WE MACEDONIANS LIVED UNDER OTTOMAN RULES MORE THAN 500
YEARS. THE OTTOMAN DID NOT BEHAVE SO FASCISTIC AGAINST OUR PEOPLE LIKE THE ATHINAS DID.
WHY DID THE ATHINAS KING ORDER THE ATHINA ARMY TO BURN DOWN SO MANY CITIES AND VILLAGES IN MACEDONIA
DURING THE BALKAN WARS 1912-13!?????!!!!
IF MACEDONIA WAS A ATHINA PURE STATE, WHY DID ATHINAS
DESTROY SO MANY CITIES AND VILLAGES IN MACEDONIA?????
IT SHOWS THAT ATHINA HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE WHEN THEY RAPE AND MASSACRE MACEDONIANS DURING THE BALKANS WARS.
DONT FORGET THEY WERE YOUR BROTHERS TO PURE MACEDONIANS!!!!!!!!!!!

WAKE UP KOTTAS AND BE UNITED WITH YOUR MACEDONIANS BROTHERS IN EGEI MACEDONIA - IT IS NOTE TO LATE!!!!!!!
WWW.FLORINA.ORG!!!!!!!!

BE MEMBER IN WWW.FLORINA.ORG!!!!!!!!!!!

BE MACEDONIAN AND BE PROUD ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!

BE UNITED WITH THE REST OF MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!

DEAD TO ATHINA, SOFIA AND BELGRAD!!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!

READ THIS KOTTAS:www.lerin.com/html/conviction.htm
and www.lerin.com/htm/trp_press.htm

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!

THIS IS THE RIGHT ADRESS TO YOUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS IN EGEI MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WEBB ADRESS: www.lerin.com/html/trp_press.htm
AND www.lerin.com/html/conviction.htm

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!!

Did you ever read Aristotele's( who was a Macedonian) books from the ancient sources?????

DONT FORGET MACEDONIA DOESNT BELONG ONLY TO THE MACEDONIANS OR GREEKS! IN MACEDONIA THERE ARE LIVING DIFFERENT MINORITIES ALBANIANS, TURKISH, GYPSIES,VLACH
AND OTHERS MINORITIES WHO WE ALL MOST RESPECT!!!!!
IF YOU ASK A ALBANIAN, GREEK OR MACEDONIAN, THEY WILL SAY TO YOU THAT MACEDONIA BELONGS ONLY TO THEM IT DEPPENDS WHНCH PROPAGANDA THIS COUNTRYS HAVE IN THE SCHOOLS, TV, RADIO AND POLITICS!!!!!
PHILILP, ALEXANDER AND ARISTOTEL WERE GREAT MENS WITH A BIG PLACE IN THE HISTORI AND NOBODY CAN TAKE THEIR PLACES. IN SCHOOL WE TEACH ABOUT THIS MEN AND THEY WERE LIKE EINSTAIN IN THE 1900 CENTERY!!!!!
IF THEY WERE MACEDONIANS OR GREEKS OR SOMETHING ELSE WE CANT SAY IT FOR SURE!!!!!
WE MACEDONIANS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE GREEKS LIKE
THE GREEKS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE TURKISH OR SOMEOTHER PEOPLE IN THIS REGION!!!!!
WE MACEDONIANS ARE NOT GREEKS, BULGARIANS OR SERBS!!!!!

WAKE UP KOTTAS AND BE UNITED WITH YOUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS IN EGEI MACEDONIA!!!!!

WWW.FLORINA.ORG

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN(EDESSA)!!!!!

WEBB ADRES: http://217.136.252.147/webpub/eurolang/pajenn.asp?ID=4574

READ ABOUT THE OLDEST DEMOCRATY IN THE WORLD, HOW THIS ATHINA DEMOCRATY THREATS ITS MINORITIES!!!!!

IS THIS THE ATHINA REPUBLIC YOU KOTTAS ARE TALKING ABOUT: REGARDING DEMOCRATIES, HUMAN RIGHTS, FREE TO EXPRESS YOURSELF WHAT YOU ARE AND TO WHICH MINORITIES YOU BELONG TO?????????????
ATHINA REPUBLIC IS THE ONLY ONE COUNTRY IN EUROPE THAT THREATS IT MINORITIES LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE ATHINA IN THE EU???????

ONE DAY JESUS WILL PUNISH THIS RASISTIC AND FASISTIC
ATHINA WHO TRIES TO CREATE A STATE LIKE HITLER DID DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR WITH LIES AND MANIPULATION
THAT MINORITIES DOESNT EXIST IN THIS ATHINA-REPUBLIC!

WAKE UP KOTTAS AND BE UNITED WITH YOUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS: www.florina.org

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!

The Albanian nation was created in 1914 (and they still have part of Makedonia and Epirus). In South Albania ( North Epirus) up to 1990 there were registered 400,000 Greek speaking people. As for the occupation of 1913 (as you say), Macedonians wanted to be with Greece. Look at people like Vangeli from Strembeno or Ion Dragoumi of Florina (what you call Lerin). And as history is written ( and I read history from a lot of countries like Germany, England, France, etc....) the oldest names of Makedonia were names like Thessaloniki ( before solun), Pella, Vergina, Stragea and so on...) how do you say that "athens" changed the names when these were the names from thousands of years ago. and third, If you can not be sure what Aristoteles said or phillipa or Alexander you should read Plutarch and Polybius ( I suggest to you Loebs classics , from the original). And last , Like I said I do not deny that you are a Macedonian (so am I , my grandparents are originally from Monastiri (bitola). But our whole history evolves around Greece for thousands of years before the slavs.

THE ATHINA STATE WAS CREATED 1821 WITH HELP BY AUSTRIA-UNGRARI AND BRITTISH WHO INTERFER WHEN THE ATHINAS MADE REBELION AGAINST THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE!!!!!
BEFORE THAT ATHINA STATE DID NOT EXIST IT WAS OTTOMANS
DURING THE PHILLIP KINGDOM GREECE DID NOT EXIST AS A STATE!!!!! ATHINA, THEBE AND OTHERS CITIES WAS NOT UNITED IN A COUNTRY LIKE PHILLIPS KINGDOM MACEDONIA!!!
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT GREECE HAS EXIST FOR THOUSENDS YEARS????? WHEN IT WAS CREATED 1821 BY THE BIG SUPERSTATES IN EUROPE DURING THAT TIME LIKE USA IS TODAY A SUPERSTATE!
IF MACEDONIA WAS NOTE OCCUPIED BY THE ATHINA DURING BALKAN WARS 1912-13 THE WORLD HADE SEEN THE REAL HISTORI OF MACEDONIA NOT LIKE TODAY WHEN THE ATHINA
CREATED A FALSIFICAT HISTORI THAT IS PURE ATHINAPROPAGANDA TO SAY HERE LIVES ONLY ATHINAS-PEOPLE! ATHINA HAS MADE THE WORST GENOCID AGAINST THE MACEDONIAN HISTORI, PEOPLE AND CULTURE!!!!!
MY PARENTS WAS FORCED TO LEARN ATHINA WHEN THE GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND SPEAK A LAUNGWICH THAT THE WERE FORCE TO SPEAK!!!!! THEY TOLD ME EVERY TIME THE SPEAK MACEDONIAN IN SCHOOL THEY WERE PUNISH AND MY GRANDPARENTS FORCE TO GO TO THE POLICE IN VODEN TO EXPLAIN WHY THE SPEAK MACEDONIAN AND NOT ATHINA!
I KNOW WHAT CAIN OF HISTORI THEY WERE FORCED TO LEARN!
EVERYTHING THAT WAS MACEDONIAN WERE DESTROYED BY THE ATHINAS: CHURSES, GRAVYARDS, MACEDONIAN CULTURE &MANY OTHERS THINGS THAT BELONG TO THE MACEDONIAN HISTORI.
IF WE MACEDONIANS WERE ATHINAS WHY DID THEY DESTROY EVERYTHING DURING THE BALKANS WAR 1912-13 BY ORDER OF THE ATHINAS KING!
THESSOLUNIKI WAS GIVEN BY THE ATHINAS AFTER THE WAR NOTE BEFORE! EVERY CITIES IN MACEDONIA HADE OTTOMAN NAMES LIKE MONASTIR= IN MACEDONIAN BITOLA AND SO FORT!
WE BOTH ARE MACEDONIANS NOTE ATHINAS, SOFIAS, BELGRADS OR SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!!!
YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM LIKE US MACEDONIANS WHO WAS UNDER JUGOSLAV OCCUPIESSION THAN WE WERE FORCE TO SAY THAT WE ARE JUGOSLAV INSTEAD TO SAY THAT WE ARE MACEDONIANS. YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE GREEK INSTEAD TO SAY THAT YOU ARE A PURE MACEDONIAN FROM BITOLA!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But there was no Greek king sice Palealogos in 1453! All the other kings were English/German/Danish. Our Kings are gone forever now. And what about Basil (Vasilios) the Bulgar slayer( he was a Macedonian) and in 1014 he defeated Samuel (who is written in History as a Bulgarian) And Basil was called the Bulgarian-Slayer. No one ever called Samuel a Macedonian until modern times. But I ask you why so many Macedonians supported the government of Athens? I looked up a list and there are hundreds and hundreds of names of Macedonians who wanted unity with Athens , Why???? And why did Alexander the Great get revenge on Persia and burned Persopolis ? Do get revenge for what persia did to Greece! And there are letters where Alexander sais this!

WHY DO YOU ALWAYS MIX MACEDONIANS WITH BULGARIANS?????
WE PURE MACEDONIANS HATE THE BULGARIANS BECAUSE THE ARE THE WORST ANIMALS ON THIS PLANET!!!!!
THEY ARE ENIMIES TO THE GREEK AND MACEDONIAN PEOPLE!!!
THE KING IN ATHINA AFTER 1821 ARE NOT GREEKS THATS THRUTH!
GREECE DID NOT EXIST AS A STATE DURING PHILLIPS AND ALEXANDERS KINGDOM!!!!!!!!!!
ATHINA, THEBE AND OTHERS CITIES WERE INDEPENDENT FROM ITCH OTHER!!!!! THEY WERE NOT UNITED IN A KINGDOM OR A STATE THAT YOU CALL "GREECE" BEFORE 1821!!!!!
MACEDONIA WAS A REAL KINGDOM AND A SUPERSTATE DURING THE GREAT PHILLIP AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT!!!!!
WHY DID THE ATHINAS CALL MACEDONIANS FOR VARVAROS WITH A DIFFERENT LAUNGWICH FROM ATHINAS?????
HISTORI KOTTAS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPEND NOTE SOMETHING YOU CREATE AFTER GENOCID ON MACEDONIAN CULTURE,HISTORI, GRAVYARDS, CHURSES, CHANGING THE NAMES ON MACEDONIANS TO HAVE ATHINAS NAMES!!!!!!!!
IS THIS THE ATHINA HISTORI YOU ARE PROUD TO TALK ABOUT????? PAVLOS MELAS THE ATHINA MISSIONERY SEND BY THE ATHINAS TO CONVERT MACEDONIANS INTO ATHINAS AND AGRAS WHO WAS HANGED BY MACEDONIANS IN VODEN 1906 THE ATHINA SAYS THAT HE WAS HANGED BY VHLACH PEOPLE(bull****)!!!!!

kottas be united with your macedonian brothers in egei macedonia!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.florina.org there are new information if you want to read about the macedonian minorities in athina!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER - UNITED EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE COMMON THAT IS WE ARE MACEDONIANS!!!!!

WAKE UP MY MACEDONIAN BROTHER!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!!

The name Hellas you will see a few times if you read the Illiad or the Odyssey by Homer who existed 900 B.C. If you read there he also mentions Macedonia and how they have the same language, religion and customs with Greece. Why are Macedonian coins of Phillipa and Alexander with Greek alphabet? Explain why they called Basil the "Bulgar slayer" after what he did to Samuels army? About Pavlos Melas , did you know that Mela's granparents come from Konitsa (Epirus)? That is where he is originally from and NOT Athena. And if you look at old maps Konitsa was originally part of Macedonia.Melas only lived in Athena but he was not from there. Do you hate Macedonians like Kapetan Vangelis from Strembeno, Kapetan Minopoulo frm Halkidiki, Kapetan Louka Kokkinos frm Grevena,Kapetan Perdika frm Siatista, Kapetan Bakari from Kastoria(kostur), Kapetan Kosta Dogris from Kastoria, Kosta Goundas from Grevena, Kapetan Basili Zourka from Kastoria and many more....? They loved their homes and wanted independence from the Turks. And what about Christo Kottas from Roula? He was in BMPO(IMRO) but left NOT because of Karavagelis but because he learned that BMPO was only for Bulgaria and wanted to make all the Macedonians Bulgarain, that is why he went against BMPO. Because BMPO( IMRO) was a Bulgarain organization. Look at Todor Alexandroff and Ivan Mihailov they said that all Macedonians are Bulgarain. I only say I am Macedonian and Greek, NOT Bulgarian. That is why I think of you as my brother.

KINGS OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA
, Why do these names exist and have meanings in Greece too?
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ARGEAD DYNASTY
Karanos (c. Late 9th/Early 8th Cent.)
Koinos (c. Mid-8th Cent.)
Tyrimmas (c. Late 8th/Early 7th Cent.)
Perdikkas I (c. 670-652)
Argaios I (652-621)
Philip I (621-588)
Aeropos I (588-68)
Alketas (568-40)
Amyntas I (540-498)
Alexander I (c. 498-454)
Perdikkas II (c. 454-413)
Archelaus (413-399)
Orestes (399-396)
Aeropos II (396-393)
Pausanias (393)
Amyntas II the Little (393)
Amyntas III (392-370)
Argaios II (390)
Alexander II (370-368)
Ptolemy Alorites (368-365)
Perdikkas III (365-359)
Philip II (359-336)
Alexander III the Great (336-323)
Philip III Arrhidaios (323-317)
Alexander IV Aegeos (323-309)
And why did Dame Gruev say this? "WE ARE BULGARIANS AND WE WILL ALWAYS WORK FOR THE UNION OF EVERYTHING BULGARIAN. ALL OTHER FORMULAS ARE MERELY A STEP TOWARDS THE ABOVE GOAL". If Dame said that he was a Bulgarian then it right to say he was NOT Macedonian!

IF DAME GRUEV WAS BULGARIAN THAN THE ATHINAS ARE TURKISH PEOPLE!!!!! STUPPID GRKOMAN(NON-ATHINAS)
AS MUCH AS DAME GRUEV WAS BULGARIAN AS MUCH ARE ATHINAS TURKISH PEOPLE DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW STUPPID YOU ARE GRKOMAN OR YOU ARE MAYBE BULGOROMAN?????!!!!!
I WONDER IF YOU ARE A BULGARIAN IN SOME WAY?????
THE BULGARIANS ARE TATARS FROM RUSSIA SIBIRIA!!!!!
DAME GRUEV, GOCE DELCEV, GORGI PETROV AND MANY OTHERS HATED THE BULGARIAN BECAUSE THEY INTERFER IN THE MACEDONIAN REVOLUTION 1903 ILINDEN AGAINST THE OTTOMAN OPPRESSION OF COURSE YOU DONT NOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EVENT HISTORI!!!!!
THERE WERE TWO VMRO THE ONE A PURE MACEDONIAN FOR LIBERATION FOR MACEDONIA FROM THE OTTOMANS IN THAT STATE EVERYBODY SHOULD BE GIVEN EVERY RIGHTS AS HUMAN IT INCLUDE THE MACEDONIAN, TURKISH, VLACH, GYPSIES ATHINAS AND OTHER MINORITIES WHO LIVED IN MACEDONIA UNDER OTTOMAN OPPRESSION!!!!!
THE ATHINAS , SOFIA AND BELGRAD WERE AGAINST THESE IDEAS BECAUSE THEY HAD OTHER PLANS FOR MACEDONIA AND WE DID SEE WHAT HAPPEND DURRING BALKAN WARS 1912-13!!!
NEW MASTERS IN MACEDONIA BUT VORSE THAN THE OTTOMAN WITH GENOCID ON MACEDONIAN CULTUR, PEOPLE AND CREATING HISTORI THAT SUITE ITCH STATES THEIR POLITIKS AND INTEREST!!!!!
THE OTHER ONE WAS VMRO-VRHOVISTI THEY WERE BULGARIANS AND MACEDONIANS WHO WERE FOR BULGARIA(BULGOROMANS)!!!
HERE WAS THE TREATOR ALEXANDROV AND MANY OTHER SOLD MACEDONIANS WHO SOLD THERE MACEDONIAN IDENTY!!!!!

THAN WE HAD YOUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS-GRKOMANS NOT PURE ATHINAS!!!!! SOLD MACEDONIANS FOR MONEY!!!!!
THAN WE HAVE THE SERBOMANS AND THEY ARE THE SAME LIKE THE REST OF GRKOMANS AND BULGOROMANS!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA-FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN VMRO FOREVER!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA-EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

DEAD TO ATHINAS, SOFIAS AND BELGRADS!!!!!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN, FROM VODEN EGEI MACEDONIA!!!!!

My relatives fought the Bulgarians back in 1904 to 1913.I had relatives who died fighting the Bulgarians and the Turks, and they will always be the enemy of the Macedonian/Greek (both of us) peoples. How about all the Bulgarians who came from Sofia and said you are all Bulgarians Because you speak the same language? I know that is stupid but I ask you one question can you tell me what language Phillip and Alexander spoke? For Dame Gruev , I read this in many books, but if you have proof that he did not say this then tell me.But do you at least believe that BMPO(IMRO) did kill there own people? Not all BMPO(IMRO) people were good.Pop Traykoff killed his own people, and so did Mitso Vlachou. And that is what Goce did not want.Do you want for all of us to fight again like we did back then? We have to stop this once and for all. And dont always blame Athens because they were not so strong back then as you think. The big powers caused all this.

WE MACEDONIANS ARE NOT GREEEKS, BULGARIANS, SERBS OR
SLAVS, WE ARE AND WILL FOREVER BE ONLY MACEDONIANS EVEN WHEN ATHINAS AND THE OTHER ENIMIES OF MACEDONIA WILL SPREAD PROPAGANDA AND SAY THAT MACEDONIA BELONGS TO SERBIA, BULGARIA OR GREECE!!!!!
MACEDONIANS AND BULGARIANS HAVE TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, CULTURE AND THE BIGGEST DIFFERENT WE MACEDONIANS ARE NOT SLAVS LIKE THE BULGARIANS!!!!!
PHILLIP AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT ARE MACEDONIANS!!!!!
WHICH LANGUAGE THEY SPOKE I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE MEET THEM IN HEAVEN!!!!!
I DONT NO WHICH FALSIFICAT HISTORI BOOKS YOU HAVE READ ABOUT DAME GRUEV AND OTHER PURE MACEDONIANS, WHO FIGHT AGAINST THE BULGARIAN DURING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD!
THE BULGARIANS WERE AND ARE STILL TOGETHER WITH ATHINAS AND SERBIA OUR BIGGEST ENEMY!!!!!
OF COURSE IN THE PURE MACEDONIAN VMRO IT WAS MANY DIFFERENT CARAKTERS OF PEOPLE WHO MAYBE KILL AND DID DO SOMETHING THAT OUR CHIEF GOCE DELCEV DID NOT KNOW! THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE DIVIDED INTO GRKOMANS, BULGOROMANS,SERBOMANS AND PURE MACEDONIANS!
THAT IS A TYPICAL REACTION FROM THE ATHINAS IF YOU ARE NOTE GREEK THAN WE ARE BULGARIANS OR SERBS AND NOTE MACEDONIANS THAT WE ARE AND WILL BE FOREVER AMEN!
SEE SOME WEBBADRESES:
http://www.unitedmacedonians.org
http://www.macedonia/heroes.html
http://www.macedonia/maps.html
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupa/ac/ach/macedon2.htm
http://www.familie-rapporten.dk/makedonien.html
http://www.ku.edu/kansas/mk/net/
http://www.makedonia.cjb
http://www.macedonia-revolution-cjb.net/
http://www.makedonija.info/ (SEE THE THE FOLDER ATHINA PROPAGANDA)
http://www.geocities.com/bmpo_mkd/glavna.html

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN-EGEI MACEDONIA!!!!!

WEBB ADRES:
http://members.tripod.com/giorgi10/id54.htm
www.florina.org

BE UNITED WITH YOUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS IN EGEIMACEDONIA!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!!!!

http://members3.boardhost.com/beliver/index.html?1076971662 THEY CLAIM WE ARE ALL BULGARAINS!

THIS SIDE YOU GAVE ME TO LOOK ARE A TYPICAL BULGARIAN AND GREEK PROPAGANDA AGAINST OUR MACEDONIAN PEOPLE!!!
THE BULGARIANS AND THE REST ENIMIES OF MACEDONIAN PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS TALK **** ABOUT US!!!!!
WE MACEDONIAN KNOW ABOUT OUR PURE MACEDONIAN HISTORI
AND WHO CARES WHAT ATHINA, SOFIA OR BELGRAD THINKS!!!
THEY LEARN THEIR CHILDREN THE PROPAGANDA ABOUT THEIR
OWN FALSIFICAT HISTORI AND LIES ABOUT THE MACEDONIANS
PEOPLE HISTORI.
HISTORI KOTTAS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPEND NOTHING YOU CREATE AFTERWARD THAT THE GREEKS, BULGARIANS AND
SERBS TRIES TO DO!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA - FOREVER!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

Do you hate the Macedonians who supported unity with the rest of Greece? I am talking about the Macedonian wars of 1904-1908? My great grandfather fought in those wars up in Monastiri, Kastoria, and Gevgeli. He fought against the Turks and the bulgarians, you dont think he is a hero for that?

"We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
"There is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country."

[FYROM's Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov in an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999]




14. "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
[FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35.]



15. "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD)."
[FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov, Toronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992]



16. "We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great." "We are Slavs and we speak a Slav language."
[FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka, 22 January 1999]

KOTTAS THIS YOU WRITE ARE TYPICAL ATHINAS-GYPSIES PROPAGANDA!!!!! DO YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR SELF???????
ASHOLE!!!!!! STUPPID GRKOMAN-NOTE PURE ATHINAS-GYPSIES
WE CAN START WITH YOUR GRANDFATHER A TRAITOR WHO SOLD HIS SOLE TO THE ATHINAS-GYPSIES PROPAGANDA!!!!!
HE WORK FOR THE ANDARTES ATHINAS MISSIONERIES WHO WANTED TO MAKE MACEDONIA ATHINAS! THERE WERE ARGAS AND
MANY OTHER PURE ATHINAS WHO CAME TO MACEDONIA FROM ATHINAS AND THEN IT WAS THE BASTARDOS LIKE YOUR GRANDFATHER A MACEDONIAN TRAITOR WHO WORK FOR MONEY TO SUPPORT THIS ATHINAS! IN MACEDONIA IN THIS TIME DURING OTTOMAN EMPIRE THERE WERE LIVING ONLY 8-9% PURE ATHINAS IN MACEDONIA AND THEY WERE LIVING CLOSED TO THE BORDER TO ATHINAS! YOU AND YOUR FAMILIE ARE TRAITORS AND PIGS WHO HAVE SOLD YOUR MACEDONIAN IDENTITY TO BE SOLD GRKOMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DEAD TO ATHINA, SOFIA AND BELGRAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

DEAD TO EVERY GRKOMAN LIKE YOU SELF AND OTHERS WHO HAVE SOLD THERE PURE MACEDONIAN IDENTITY TO BE GRKOMANS!!!!! YOU ARE ALSO IN SOME WAY BULGOROMAN!!!!!
OF COURSE YOU ARE GRKOMAN AND BULGOROMAN!!!!!
ATHINAS ARE AND WILL BE FOREVER TURKISH PEOPLE AND CYPRUS BELONGS TO THE TURKISH PEOPLE IT HAS NEVER BEEN UNDER ATHINA CONTROL! CYPRUS HAS ALWAYS BELONG TO
THE OTTOMANS AND BEFORE TO OTHER COUNTRYS!!!!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM EGEI-MACEDONIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

about the Sqiptars( Albanians)and the UCK that want to take Tetovo from you. You are so typical like the VMRO fanatics, you want to kill Macedonians because they believe different from you. Dont you think that we should worry about the sqiptars and the turks more?????????

THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE MACEDONIANS ARE THE TRAITORS LIKE YOU AND YOUR FELLOWS GRKOMANS, BULGOROMANS AND SERBOMANS!!!!DEAD TO THEM!!!!!

THE ALBANIANS HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEM SELF TO BE ALBANIANS IN THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA AND THE OTHER MINORITIES WHO LIVES IN THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA!!!!!
BUT IN ATHINA, SOFIA AND BELGRAD, IT IS FORBIDDEN TO SAY TO WITH MINORITIES YOU BELONG TO IN ATHINA IT IS FORBIDDEN TO SAY THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIAN, ALBANIAN OR FROM THE OTHER MINORITIES WHO LIVES IN ATHINA!!!!!
AND ATHINA IS A DEMOCRATY???!!!!!????!!!!BULL****!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

VMRO-DPMNE PURE MACEDONIAN FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FOREVER!!!!!

Do you have sqiptar blood in you? Because the sqiptars (albanians) are threatning to revolt constantly and even Tirana supports this? What will you do when UCK starts an uprising in Tetovo??

I AM NOT LIKE YOU BRIANWASH TO BE RASISTIC NATIONALIST WHO HAS NO RESPECT FOR OTHER MINORITIES IN YOU ATHINA STATE!!!!!

THERE ARE LIVING 2 MILLION MACEDONIANS, 1 MILLION ALBANIANS, VLACHI, TURKISH AND OTHER MINORITIES IN THЙ

REPUBLIC OF ATHINA-ANKARA!!!!!
WHY DO THIS MINORITIES HAVENT ANY RIGHTS IN YOUR ATHINA STATE OLDEST DEMOCRATI, THAT YOU ATHINA TALK ABOUT?!?!?!?!?!

YOU ATHINAS ARE THE MOST RASISTIC AND FASISTIC BRAINWASH PEOPLE IN BALKAN!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

what are you talking about????? Let me ask you what names are Macedonian , Alexander, Phillipa, and Aristotle OR MIHAILOV, SARAFOV,MATOFF AND SO ON.... cAN YOU NOT SEE THE NAMES ARE VERY DIFFERENT????!!! wHAT DOES THE WORD MACEDONIAN MEAN , DID YOU EVER LOOK UP THE MEANING OF THE WORD??????

You ppl are pathetic...wake up where do you think you are living?It's 21th century!
Are you 13 years old?What is that thing about the death of all Bulgarians,serbs and Greeks?You are sick!whenever something does not fit into your understandings its FAUSE!You are not having a conversation but are offending yourselves...

So, you Pure Macedonian...where do you think you live...on mars...we the people of the balkans are so mixed up that there is nothing pure in you, in me or in anyone else...you are just being childish!

First, you are from VMRO-DPMNE?Here is what your party says:

"According to historic sources, both the Vrhovists and Centralists ignored any language question, and simply accepted the beliefs of the Macedonian revivalist leaders. Thus if we must apportion "guilt" because some of them spoke in "Bulgarian" or wrote in "Bulgarian", the "guilt" should be undoubtedly assigned to those figures for who today we make no "comments", but simply recognise them as the most sacred, outstanding characters of Macedonian history. And when we examine their works closely, reading them without the deletions and additions, or even just glancing at their major works, we uncover an important truth, namely that Parteni Zografsky, Kiril Peichinovich, Teodosig Sinaitsky, the Miladinov Brothers, Grigor Prlichev, Kuzman Shapkarev, Marko Tsepenkov and many more, whenever they wrote for their mother tongue or about the revision of this language, they only declared for a Bulgarian language. And so again we return to Mihailov and Alexandrov. Why do we "accuse" them of things of which they are not guilty? Instead, is it not "scandalous" for Macedonian history that the two great awakeners, the Miladinov Brothers, proclaimed themselves everywhere as Bulgarians and their language as Bulgarian?

Gotse Delchev, undoubtedly the greatest and most prominent son of the Macedonian Liberation struggle, within his plans reasons, as a final solution, the concept of an autonomous Macedonia. The idea for an independent Macedonian state and its adherence within the framework of the historic VMRO appears in the time of Todor Alexandrov and is confirmed by Vancho Mihailov. I'll mention only a few facts from the life of Gotse: All his education is entrusted to the Bulgarian Exarchy by his parents. After he completes primary school his father sends him to the Bulgarian "Salonica Men's Gymnasium" and thereafter he travels to Bulgaria to become a Bulgarian military officer; discontinuing his studies he returns to Macedonia as a Bulgarian Exarchist teacher, a role, where amongst other duties, he teaches the Bulgarian language to his pupils as their mother tongue. In 1893 or 1894 he joins an organisation called the "Bulgarian- Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee" and in a short time becomes one of its main leaders. Later he is assigned to act as the foreign VMRO representative stationed in Sofia, where he regularly attends the Supreme Committee (Vrhovists) meetings, and together with Giorche Petrov organises Boris Sarafov's election as its president. Assuredly, if Gotse Delchev was still alive in 1945 when the Serbo-communists left Macedonia in Yugoslavia, he would have found himself in "Idrizovo".

Mr. LJUPCHO GEORGIEVSKI
President, VMRO-DPMNE Political Party
Prime Minister of the Republic of Macedonia

published in the Skopje newspaper "Puls"
7 July 1995


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In macedonia there lived mainly bulgarians + some greek + vlachs + albanians+ and even less serbs:



Bulgarian veiw!



Serbian view!

You say we are asiatic:>?Bulgars left us only their name and some culture.The ancient Bulgars had little effect on the ppl's looks...they were assimilated by the slavs and only few words have left from them (some no longer in use):

http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/b_lang/bl_k_m.html


In short after Great Bulgaria "died" in 6 century --

"Kotrag went north and founded the Volga-Kama Bulgaria which existed until the 13th century when it was destroyed by the Tatars. Batbayan remained at the Sea of Azov but suffered defeats at the hands of the Khazars. His horde was later integrated into Volgo-Kama Bulgaria. Kuber and his horde settled in Macedonia and became part of Asparukh's state. Altsek went to Italy, where his Bulgarians were assimilated, leaving only the names of several modern towns. The youngest son Asparukh was to play the truly historical role."


So,Kuber and his horde settled in Macedonia...than you are asiatic too!See how absurd you are by stating that?

Eto ti eden site deto ke ti pomogne da vidi6 6to e Makedonskiot jazik!

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/books/kronsteiner/ik_3_eng.html

and some more independent sources...
http://w3.tyenet.com/kozlich/modpeo.htm

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As for Kottas....Well you might be greek...many greek ppl did live in macedonia look at that site I posted above and look at this about greek macedonia(it's an idependent source -- those we should all be using):

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/mmkm/who/who02.htm

it's very helpfull...as you see there were many greek "cores"...

However after the exchage of populationa in the begining of the century b/n greece and bulgaria now in northen greece live mainly greek people...


WELL WHY DO I EVEN BOTTER...I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO LEAD THE MAK WILL ONCE AGAIN START TALKING ABOUT GREAT MACEDONIA AND WISH EVERYONE EXEPT HIS "PURE" NATION WERE KILLED...A AND LETS NOT FORGET UNITED MACEDONIA:) PIRIN, VARDAR AND EGEIA....

THIS ARE TYPICAL ATHINA PROPAGANDAS ABOUT THE HISTORI OF MACEDONIA MADE BY ATHINA AFTER THE OCCUPIESION OF MACEDONIA 1912-13.
HISTORI IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPEND, NOT SOMETHING YOU ATHINAS CREATED AFTER YOU OCCUPIED MACEDONIA 1912-13 AFTER THE WAR AGAINST THE OTTOMANS TO SUITE YOUR PROPAGANDA TO TELL THE WORLD THAT IN MACEDONIA THERE ARE LIVING ONLY ATHINAS-PEOPLE!!!!!
DURING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD THERE WERE MAINLY MACEDONIAN POPULATION IN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, THAT THE ATHINAS CALL US FOR SOFIAS-PEOPLE AND THE SOFIAS CALL US FOR "BULGARIANS".
WE ARE NOT SOFIAS, ATHINAS OR BELGRAD PEOPLE THAT THIS STATES TRIES TO FALSIFICAT AND TELL THE WORLD ABOUT US PURE MACEDONIANS. THIS STATES SO CALLED ATHINAS TRIES TO MAKE THERE OWN HISTORI TO SUITE THERE INTEREST AND IN THE SCHOOLS THEY ARE BRAINWASHING THE CHILDREN WITH THIS ATHINA PROPAGANDA.

DONT TELL ME ABOUT YOUR ATHINA PROPAGANDA MY GRANDPARENTS AND MANY RELATIVS WENT TO ATHINA SCHOOLS
AND I KNOW WHAT CAIN OF BRAINWASH THERE WERE FORCE TO LEARN WORSE PROPAGANDA THEN THE NAZI DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR! ATHINAS ARE THE WORSE NATIONALIST AND RASISTIC MENTALITY. IN ATHINA THE MINORITIES HAVE NO RIGHTS TO EXPRESS THEMSELF AND SAY THAT THEY ARE MACEDONIANS, TURKISH, VLACHI OR SOMEOTHER MINORITIES.
WHAT CAIN OF DEMOCRATI IS THIS?????

http://www.florina.org

DEAD TO SOFIA, ATHINAS AND BELGRAD!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN(IN ATHINAS-GYPSIES EDDESA)

"Pa shta si ti?" - tak'v v'pros zadava
v'v tvoja dom bezochliv chuzhdenec.
"Pa shta si ti?" - s takvaz psuvnja smushtava
dushata ti nekanen prish'lec;

"Pa shta si ti?" - tuj pitane navred -
pri Drin, pri Shar, pri Vardar, Prespa draga
o, b'lgarino, s'rbin ti polaga
i chaka s nachumeren lik otvet.

No ti pazi se, prav otvet ne davaj!
Kazhi se portugalec, kjurd, siriec,
laponec, neg'r, ciganin, indiec,
no b'lgarin se samo ne priznavaj.

Che toz grjah sm'rten proshka tam ne znaj:
Vleche pozor, poboj, zatvor, izgnanje
nevideni pri prezhnite tirani.
Skrij, che si b'lgarin v naj-b'lgarskija kraj;

che si potom'k Samuilov, na Atonskij
Paisij vnuk; skrij na koja si majka sin,
na koj jazik pej m'tnij Vardar, sinij Drin
i ezerata i gorite makedonski!

Ne spomenavaj Lozengrad,
Ljuleburgas, ni Bulair uzhasni:
Ti bi razbudil podozrenija opasni,
che na gerojte tehni mozhe da si brat.

M'lchi! A vmesto tebe vseki dol, p'teka,
d'brava, ezero, reka, rid, planina,
shte vikat s glas prez vsichki vremena:
"Tuk b'lgari sa, b'lgari ot pamtiveka!"

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Vazov napisva tova stihotvorenie sled kato sr'bskija prestolonaslednik Aleksand'r I udrja plesnica na edno momichence v Makedonija, koeto na naglija mu v'pros otgovarja, che e b'lgarche.

Prez 1934-a godina v Marsilija kral Aleksand'r I e likvidiran ot Vlado Chernozemski.

I bet you didn't even read my whole post?And did not visit the sites?Why do I bother with you?You are 14?
You pure macedonian...everything is propaganda for you....we now the truth and if you check any other source other than macedonian, bulgarian, serb or greek you will see that the rest of the world will back us Bulgarians...

BUT LET'S USE YOUR METHODS

DEATH (yeah, it's death NOT dead you moron) FOR MACEDONIA AND THOSE THAT WERE BRAINWASHED UNDER TITO'S RULE
PURE BULGARIAN FROM BURGAS!!! -- see how ugly and stupid does it look...well that's your way to handle things...if you have no answer it's propaganda and you start cursing around!?!

Go live your life,history is not everything, your country is steadily going to become one of the poorest states in Europe if you don't do something about it immediately....even Albania is looking better than Macedonia Now!

THE SOFIA-GYPSIES STATE WAS CREATED BY THE RUSSIAN TSAR 1878 AND NOT BY THE PIG LEVSKI AND MANY OTHER SOFIAN BASTARDOS!!!!!
THE SOFIAS STATE ARE ORIGIN FROM ASIA-TATARS WITH PURE GYPSIES ORIGIN- THE BIGGEST ENEMY FOR US MACEDONIANS DURING 1800-1900 CENTURY.
YOUR PROPAGANDA TRIED TO MAKE US MACEDONIANS TO SOFIAS-GYPSIES PEOPLE, WHO WERE CREATED BY THE RUSSIAN TSAR!!!!!
DONT FORGET THAT YOUR STATE OCCUPIES PIRIN-MACEDONIA SINCE 1913!!!!!
VMRO WAS CREATED BY MACEDONIANS 1893 NOT BY THE SO CALLED SOFIAS STATE!!!!! YOUR PEOPLE CREATED A SIMULAR PARTY CALL VRHOVISTI-VMRO WHO WERE OUR BIGGEST ENEMY EVEN BIGGER THAN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE!!!!!
EVEN TODAY YOUR SOFIA PROPAGANDA IS THE SAME AGAINST US PURE MACEDONIANS WHO LIVES IN PIRIN, EGEI OR VARDAR MACEDONIA.
http://www.omoilindenpirin.org/about.html
http://www.mymacedonia.net/pirin/pirin.html

WE ARE AND WILL BE FOREVER ONLY MACEDONIANS-AMEN!!!!!

THE SOFIA-GYPSIES STAE WITH ITS PROPAGANDA CAN GO TO HELL!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN!!!!!

http://www.mymacedonia.net/pirin/pirin.htm

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

Go to hell you FAG!!!

Da ti ebam maikata pederastka ziganska odi se gramni!!!
Bil mi makedonez....na kakav jazik mi zboruvash be prase?Na Bugarski....

Samo taka moje da se razbere chovek so lugi kato tebe....so psuvane....

DA TI EBAM PLEMETO TVOJE BALGARSKO(TATARSKO), KOPILE ZIGAN!!!!!!DA TI EBAM TVOJTA TATARSKA REPUBLIKA!!!!!

ASK YOUR HOREMOTHER WHO YOUR FATHER IS, HE IS HALF GYPSIES AND HALF TATAR=MADE IN SOFIA-GYPSIES!!!!!

I WILL COME HOME TO YOU AND **** YOUR HOREMOTHER AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BROTHER TO NEXT YEAR!!!!!

YOU MUST BE GAY, OF COURSE EVERY TATAR LIKES TO **** THE AS!!!!!

DEAD TO THE REPUBLIC OF SOFIAS AND THE TATAR-GYPSIES WHO LIVES THERE, BUT NOT THE MACEDONIANS OF COURSE!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI,PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

KATO SE ZAMISLJA MISLAM DEKA NIE MAKEDINZITE SME BUGARI...SORRY FOR MY PREVIOUS WORDS...
UNITED BULGARIA - MACEDONIA,EGEISKA TRAKIA I SEVERNA DOBRUDJA...
AND BTW I AM GAY...

Ok I understand you are forgiven...next time go and **** you father and don't zboruva gluposti...OK?

OK I PROMISE...

UNITED BULGARIA - MACEDONIA,EGEISKA TRAKIA I SEVERNA DOBRUDJA!!!!!

DEAD FOR TITO'S SKOPIJE REPUBLIC VIVA BULGARIA!!!!
NO MORE PROPAGANDA!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN HAS RIGHT ABOUT US WE SOFIAS ARE TATARS FROM RUSSIA AND WE ARE WITH ORIGIN OF TATAR AND TURKISH BLOOD MIX IN OUR ORIGIN.

LEVSKI WAS A BASTARDO WHO WAS FIGHTING FOR THE RUSSIANS, HIS PARENTS WERE FROM TURKISH ASIA AND HE WAS TATAR-RUSSIAN.

OUR STATE BULGARIA WERE CREATED BY THE RUSSIAN BECAUSE, WE WERE FAGETS TO FIGHT THE OTTOMANS.

WE BULGARIANS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE MACEDONIANS IN LAUNGWICH, CULTURE AND MANY OTHER THINGS.
WE HAVE NOT TELL THE TRY ABOUT MACEDONIA, WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASH FROM THE RUSSIAN TO LIE ABOUT MACEDONIA
AND THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR MACEDONIAN HISTORI IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR BULGARIAN.
WE BULGARIAN HAVE TRIED TO LIE ABOUT THE MACEDONIAN AND TELL THE WORLD THAT THEY ARE BULGARIANS, THEY ARE NOT BULGARIANS THEY ARE ONLY MACEDONIANS.

I AM SORRY THAT OUR BULGARIAN PEOPLE HAVE LIED ABOUT YOUR MACEDONIAN HISTORI, CULTURE, LAUNGWICH AND MANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT MACEDONIA.

I AM VERY SORRY THAT WE HAVE LIED ABOUT THE HISTORI OF MACEDONIA.

WE BULGARIANS HAVE COMLEX BECAUSE WE LOST THE BALKAN WAR1912-13 AND LOST MACEDONIA TO THE GREEKS AND SERBS!
OUR POLITIC IS TO LIE TO THE WORLD ABOUT MACEEDONIA AND TELL THEM THAT THE MACEDONIANS ARE BULGARS BUT THEY ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE BULGARIANS!
WE HAVE OCCUPIED PIRIN MACEDONIA SINCE 1913.

I AM SORRY THAT MY BALGARIANS ARE SO BRAINWASH BY THE
FALS PROPAGANDA ABOUT MACEDONIA!

WE BULGARIANS HAVE COMLEX BECAUSE WE LOST THE BALKAN WAR1912-13 AND LOST MACEDONIA TO THE GREEKS AND SERBS!
OUR POLITIC IS TO LIE TO THE WORLD ABOUT MACEEDONIA AND TELL THEM THAT THE MACEDONIANS ARE BULGARS BUT THEY ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE BULGARIANS!
WE HAVE OCCUPIED PIRIN MACEDONIA SINCE 1913.

I AM SORRY THAT MY BALGARIANS ARE SO BRAINWASH BY THE
FALS PROPAGANDA ABOUT MACEDONIA!

IT IS GOD THAT YOU CAN ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT
MACEDONIA I AM NOT ANGRY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASH IN THE SCHOOLS TO THINK THAT MACEDONIA BELONGS TO YOU, BUT THAT IS FALSE!!!!!

THE TWO RESOND BY PURE MACEDONIAN HAVE BEEN MADE BY YOU "VIVA BULGARIA" NOT BY ME PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

MACEDONIA BELONGS ONLY TO THE MACEDONIANS, AMEN!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

I AM SORRY THAT I HADE YOUR NAME TWICE YESTERDAY WHEN I SEND FALSE MESSGAE TO THINK THAT IT WAS YOU WHO SEND IT, I AM VERY SORRY MY MACEDONIAN FRIEND!

SORRY MY MENTALLY ILL BROTHER HAS BEEN USING THE PC WHILE I WAS HAVING FUN WIHT DADDY...SORRY FOR THAT EVERYONE...

ONCE MORE VIVA BULGARIA ...WE THE SLAV MACEDONIANS ARE NOTHING BUT A MIXTURE OF BULGARIANS (80%),GREEKS(10%) AND SERBS (10%, WE SPEACK AN BASTERDISED VERSION OF BULGARIAN CREATED BY TITO,BY PUTING IN THE DIALECT AS MANY FOREIGHN AND SERB WORDS AS POSSIBLE (LIKE "KIDNAPIRAM" AND "UNIA" - GREAT "SLAVIC" WORDS DON'T YOU THINK...BUT WHY DO THAY SOUND SO ENGLISH..?HMMM?GO FIGURE!)...AS FOR THE ALBANIANS THEIR POPULATION HAS GROWN 350% FOR JUST 50 YEARS AND IN A FEW DECADES WE ARE GOING TO BE A MINORITY;(

I PERSONALY HAD ENOUGH FOR NOW ON I WONT COME TO THIS FORUM AND POST ANY MESSAGES FOR NOW ON...IF ANYONE ...I REPEAT ANYONE POSTS IN MY NAME THAT WILL PROBALY BE MY MENTALLY ILL BROTHER DUSHKO WHO CANNOT ACCEPT THE FACK THAT MY FATHER PREFERS TO "PLAY" WITH ME INSTEAD WITH HIM...YOU KNOW SIZE DOES MATTER !!!

UNITED BULGARIA - MACEDONIA,EGEISKA TRAKIA I SEVERNA DOBRUDJA!!!!!

DEAD FOR TITO'S SKOPIJE REPUBLIC VIVA BULGARIA!!!!

NO MORE PROPAGANDA!!!!

THE BULGARIAN MOTHER****ER IS JUSING MY NAME PURE MACEDONIAN TO WRITE FALSE MESSAGES IT SHOWS HIS RUSSIAN-TATAR BRAINWASH HOW HE IS PSYCKOFAGET WITH TATAR-SOFIAS COMPLEX!!!!!

AND ONE MORE THING WHEN YOU WERE NOT HOME I WAS ****ING YOUR MOTHER IN THE AS AND SHE "THE BULGARIAN BITCH" LIKE IT SHE SCREAM LIKE A PIG!!!!!!

NEXT YEAR YOU WILL GET A BROTHER!!!!! ASHOLE!!!!!

YOUR MOTHERS PUSSY FELT REALY GREAT!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

I didn't know that impotent gay people from FYROM can have a sexual intercourse with wemen?Hmmm...well tito manageed to create a nation that is now so branwashed that is going against its own ppl so anything is possible I guess...

THE "FYROMIAN" MOTHER****ER IS JUSING MY NAME VIVA BULGARIAN TO WRITE FALSE MESSAGES IT SHOWS HIS TITO-SERBENIZED BRAINWASH HOW HE IS PSYCKOFAGET WITH TITO-SKOPIEJS COMPLEX!!!!!

AND ONE MORE THING WHEN YOU WERE NOT HOME I WAS ****ING YOUR MOTHER IN THE AS AND SHE "THE FYROMIAN BITCH" LIKE IT SHE SCREAM LIKE A PIG!!!!!!

NEXT YEAR YOU WILL GET A BROTHER DUSHKO SECOND!!!!! ASHOLE!!!!!

YOUR MOTHERS PUSSY FELT REALY GREAT!!!!!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED BULGARIA EGEISKA TRAKIA, MACEDONIA AND SEVERNA DOBRUDJA!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF BULGARIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE BULGARIAN!!!!!

Who is that "ViVa Bulgaria"?I am ViVaBulgaria with NO space....that has to be the faggish Fyromian from Voden...?

http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/b_lang/index.html

Б. Ранната българска гопонимика в югозападната част на Балканския полуостров
Според ранните исторически източници трайното настаняване на българите още през пети-шести век в Срем и Сингиндунум (Белград) е имало като своя последица и това, че в скоро време българите се заселват и на територията на някогашна Македония – "Долната Охридска земя". Преселението на българите в Македония е станало според сведенията, оставени от търновските царе, още в началото на шести век, по времето на император Анастасий.

"При Анастасии царе – пише в българския превод на Манасиената хроника, направен по времето на Йоан-Александър, – преидоша блъгари през Дунав. И поселиша се първо в Долна земя Охридска."

Този важен епизод от живота на древните българи също може да се проследи върху географските карти. Ако се спуснем откъм Срем, Белград и Видин (Южнодунавска Панония) в посока към Охрид, пътят ни ще премине през древната крепост Наисос, преименована от българите на Ниш през същата епоха, когато Маргус е станал на Морава, а Тимакус на Тимок. Названието, дадено от българите на този град, удивително съвпада с името на един от най-прочутите градове в близост до Памир – столицата на някогашната Партянска империя, наричана Ниса. А в съседство с Ниш стои и още един град, кръстен някога от древните българи на техния особен език. това е Пирот, чието име наподобява източната дума ПИРГ – укрепление. От Пирот, преминавайки през Гостивар – един град, които носи в името си нещо от панонските българи, ще достигнем до Охридската земя – обетования край, с който българите са свързали съдбата си още през шести век и от които според старите български летописи е започнало постепенното настаняване на българите на Балканския полуостров. Древното заселване на българи в Охридския край е белязано със същите следи, както техните заселвания в Дакия и Панония на север от Дунав и в областта Сирмиум между Срем и Видин. Идвайки край Охридското езеро, българите веднага донасят със себе си нови имена на градове. Някогашната Лихнида получава името Охрид, Лихнидското езеро става Охридско езеро, река Аксиос бива преименувана на Вардар, град Пелагония почва да се нарича Битоля, град Селасфор става на Девол, появяват се нови крепости, наречени Струга, Преспа и Прилеп. Всички големи градове в този край получават нови названия при заселването на българите и тази особеност в отбелязана пряко в старите византийски източници.

Византийският поет Йоан Цецас, надсмивайки се над невежеството на някои свои съвременници, които не са знаели, че Вардар е новото българско име на река Аксиос, написва дори сатира по този повод.

"А пеонци (панонци) са българите! – възклицава убедено той. – Не вярвай на глупците, че пеонците са различни от тях. Те глупците – мислят, че Аксиос е различен от Вардара." (ИБИ, т. ХХII, 104) .

За Цецас е било просто смешно да не се знае, че българите са дошли в Охридския краи от Панония, наричана от средновековните гръцки автори Пеония и че точно тези нови заселници са преименували Аксиос на Вардар.

Но как точно са възникнали новите имена Охрид и Вардар и защо тъкмо българите са били тези, които са ги донесли на Балканите? Има признаци, от които личи, че и в тези названия древните българи са вложили някакъв свой особен смисъл. В Памир и Хиндукуш, където се е намирала тяхната прародина, думата ВАР означава могъщ. А реките там се наричат най-често Дар или Даря – Аму Даря, Сър-Даря, Сурхан-Даря и т.н. Името Вардар следователно не само е било донесено от древните българи, но е произлязло от самия техен език и Цецас се оказва не само прав, но дори два пъти прав, когато се присмива над онези, които не са знаели за неговия български произход. А смисълът, които са вложили някогашните българи в това име, е твърде дълбок. В техния език то е означавало МОГЪЩА РЕКА, ЮНАШКА РЕКА.

Подобен красив смисъл са вложили българите и в името на главния град на Охридската земя – Охрид. То е свързано най-вероятно с думата ОКХРО (злато), която се среща и до днес в ареала на някогашната Кубратова България. Следи от тази стара българска дума са се запазили в понятието ОХРА – жълта боя, запазено и до днес в българския език. Охрид значи най-вероятно златен или златист. По всичко личи, че и това име едва ли е възникнало случайно. То има доста силна прилика със старото гръцко название Лихнидос, което значи лъскав, блестящ. И Охрид подобно на Вардара се оказва едно старо българско име, при това твърде красиво име – Златният град.

Останалите големи градове от Охридския край също носят древни български имена. Названията Струга, Преспа, Прилеп са разбираеми единствено за човек, който знае български език. С името "струга" се наричат и до днес в някои български говори тесните планински проходи или коридорите, през които се пропускат овцете към кошарата (нар. още и СТЪРГА), а Прилеп и Пряспа са две повсеместно разпространени в България и същевременно нехарактерни за славянските езици думи. Непонятното днес име Девол, с което е бил преименуван от древните българи град Селасфор има също твърде интересен произход. Подобни имена на селища се срещат единствено в района на Памир, където ДЕВОЛ значи повсеместно "висока ограда".

Следите, които са оставили след себе си древните българи върху картата на долната Охридска земя, наричана с право някога Долна България, са необикновено многобройни и се разпростират чак до брега на Адриатическо море. На територията на днешна Албания са известни от твърде рано крепостите Канина, Корча, Химар, Балши, чиито имена са от несъмнен древнобългарски произход. Едното от тях – Химар, е сходно с името на столицата на Кубратова България – Хумар, а град Корча е съзвучен по име с друг голям град от Кубратова България – Корчев (днешният Керч при Азовско море). За отдавнашното присъствие на българи в тези краища говори и намереният край Балши надпис от 866 г., в който се съобщава за покръстването на българите от кан Борис. Самото име Балши се среща освен в Албания още и на две други места – отвъд Дунава, където и до днес има селище Балши и в Софийско, където от същия тип е името на село Балша.

Характерно е също, че през периода до девети век някои от най-западните български градове са имали двойни названия – древнобългарско и славянско. Така например Балши се е наричал и Главиница, а Дубровник – тогава граничен с България град – Рагуза. Обичаят на древните българи да дават свои собствени имена на всеки по-забележителен град, се е проявявал твърде нашироко във всички краища, заселени от тях. На своя език българите са наричали дори столиците на някои чужди държави. На Виена, например, те са казвали Беч или Печ, а на Австрия Бечко. Благодарение на това, че редица стари имена на градове са съществували в две и дори три форми, днес става възможно да се разбере техният скрит смисъл. Така например, ако се надникне в земите на Изтока и по-специално в Памир и Кавказ, се оказва, че там думата БАЛШИ значи буквално възглавница т.е. същото, което е значела и старата славянска дума ГЛАВИНИЦА. Пак в Памир се открива и думата ПЕЧ, която означава буквално "извит, виещ се", т.е. същото, което е значела и старата славянска дума "виена" – извита – от глагола ВИЯ, ИЗВИВАМ. Българските и славянските имена често са близки подобия едно на друго, а и българските и гръцки имена са били понякога сходни по смисъл, както личи от названията Лихнида и Охрид.

Трудно е да бъдат обхванати всички следи, които древните българи са оставили в Охридския край и в Албания. Ще изредим само най-важните и най-интересни примери. В Южна Македония се срещат селищата Трапши, Колши, Гобеши, Белши, Грамши, образувани по същия модел, по който е образувано и древнобългарското име на Главиница – Балши. Завършъкът ШИ, характерен за тези имена, се съдържа и в древнобългарските думи ХУМШИ и ТУЛШИ от Преславския надпис и представлява особен древнобългарски именен суфикс. От древен български произход в същия край са и имената Чука, Чука-боря, Табахон, Кулумрия, Окщуни (срв. името Охсунос), Жупани, Харуша, Харушасъ, Булгарец, Туран, Тумба, Тухольо (срв. др.бълг, ТОХОЛ в Ави-тохол), Куцака, Шишман, Ботун, Шареник, Крума, Косара, Лъойма, Сукаджиу (срв. др.бълг. сокачии, готвач), Плана, Мунега, Дзибрака и др.

В Средна и Източна Македония и Гръцка Тракия се срещат Синдел, Исперлик, Зузула, Царе (церът), Виняхи (ср. с кан Винех), връх Пресиан (над Кавала), връх Чавка, Кишино, Шамак (име на блато), Канарето (с. в Северна Гърция), връх Харвата (хаврата) и др.

В Албания са запазени имена като Камчишта, Шаран, Шарани, Мостачи, Жегуля (жегъла), Билеча, Цера, Плана, Шеварлие, Толише, Мърцине, Чукаси (чуките), Груемира-чесме (чешмата на Груемир), Букъмира, Бъхот, Брестус (брястът), Тана-и-булгаритъ (тана Българката), Мънику (мъничето), Кучи, Сасани, Куце, Цута-Жупанатъ, Стани-и-Мизъс (Стан-Мизиецът), Мушан, Приска, Балшени, Бардор (срв. с др.бълг. Бардуар), Вели-Калиман, Боричи, Бушниш (бучиниш), Рабоща (рабоша) и др. Запазил е името си и Драч на Адриатическо море, посочен като български град през VII век.

Ако се надникне в говора на населението от Охридско, Прилепско, Битолско, Корченско и други югозападни Балкански земи, ще се открие, че в тях и до днес са се запазили говорими форми от езика на Куберовите българи. Цяла редица необяснени досега думи и изрази като АПОТИНАНО (а пък ти, мамо), ЖИМИБОГА (Бога ми), ТУГИНА (чужбина), ВО ГЕРИЗОН (във вадата), КУЧЕНТО (кучето), КУКЯ (къщата), ТОЙНАКА, ТЯНАКА, АЗ, МИЕ (оня), ЕВО, ЕВЕ, ГЬОА (като-че), КОД (с, при) и др., се срещат и до днес на Изток в земите, обитавани някога от Памирските и Кавказките българи.

Bulgarians are not tatars you moron...Volga bulgarians were called by the russians Tatars by the name of another people during their process of assimilation...

Kuder and his bulgarians actually build their state in today's Varder Macedonia ...Varder is an old Bulgar word ...see which ever site on old Bulgar lang...The kuber bulgaria became part of Asparuh Bulgaria eventually...so you also have Bulgar blood belive it or not...
And it's not certain whether they where asiatic...that is just one of many theories...another one is that they where of iranian(persian) origin...You have many words in your "language" today that are actually old Bulgar words and do not exist anywere in the world(in no other slavic languge exept bulgarian and your dialect)!!!

Check the University of Chicago,USA katedra po Bulgariavistica...
by Prof. John Perry

YOU ARE SOFIAS-GYPSIES AND WILL BE FOREVER SOFIATATARS
YOUR ORIGIN ARE FROM TATARS WHO CAME TO THE BALKAN LAST OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE BALKAN.

MY HATE TO YOUR PEOPLE ARE THAT YOUR SOFIAS TRIED TO INTERFER IN THE ILINDEN UPRISING 1903 BY OUR MACEDONIAN BROTHERS WHO WANTED TO BE FREE FROM THE OTTOMANS ROLES MORE THAN 500 YEARS.
YOUR SOFIAS HELPED THE OTTOMAN TO FIGHT OUR MACEDONIAN
PURE VMRO WITH CHIEF DELCEV WHO WAS MURDED BY THE OTTOMANS WITH HELP BY THE SOFIAS STATE!
AND TELL ME KNOW: HOW CAN WE MACEDONIANS LIKE YOUR SOFIAS-TATAR PEOPLE????? YOUR PEOPLE ARE OUR BIGGEST
ENEMY TO OUR MACEDONIAN PEOPLE!!!!!

FOR A FREE PIRIN UNITED WITH THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

Your problem dude is that you put too much emotion in it!!!And you do not take the facts into consideration,other than those made by macedonians in macedonia...you should realize that what is left in the end is that which is recorded in the world history files (in W europe,america etc...not in Macedonians,Bulgarians or greek ones)...thank god not all macedonians are like you, I know some and they are very friendly and understanding ppl..first they don't swear like ****...calm down...have you ever been in BG ...we gypsis?Well sure there are some (5 % of the popultion)..there are in every balkan country but to claim that everyone is tatar-gypsy(do you now that tatar means at all?)....please..that's narrowmindness dude...!!!

Do you want to have a constructive conersation with you...or will you just go on with the bull****...if you wish to have a thoughtful convers OK...if not then bye threre is no point in useless offences...it's just a lost of time...

Let me ask everyone here. ( And if you want to talk history I will stay on here, but if you want to act like babies then forget it). What was the language spoken by Macedonians more than 500 years ago? Did the macedonians back then say " Zdravo, Kako se, Dobro"??? I want an honest answer for once. Can anyone here define the word (The origin of the word) Macedonian ( Make- Donon)? What language did Alexander, Philip and Aristotle speak ? Can anyone answer that? But we all know what language that was. Dont we?! I am a Macedonian (a pure one) who can trace his relatives back for hundreds of years. Monastiri was once my home but unfortunately my grandparents were thrown out for not being exachists. And if no one knows what an exarchist was, then they should not even answer me. By the way , I will ignore anyone who starts cursing and cannot give a decent response to this)!!!!

KOTTAS DONT FORGET THAT ATHINA WAS CREATED 1821 AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS UNDER TURKISH EMPIRE (the ottomans)
WE DONT KNOW WICH LAUNGEWICH THEY SPOKE DURING THE GREAT ALEXANDER. WHY DID THE ATHINAS CALL THE MACEDONIANS FOR BARBARS AND THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING DIFFERENT LAUNGEWICH FROM THE ATHINAS THAT HAS BEEN WRITEN BY DIFFERNT WRITTERS LIKE PER LUNGQVIST THE BOOK ALEXANDER THE GREAT AND HIS WARS.
YOUR ATHINA HISTORI I DONT BELIEVE BECAUSE YOUR PROFFESORS AND POLITICS HAS MADE GENOCID IN THE PART OF EGEI-MACEDONIA DURING 1912-13 BALKANS WARS.

READ http://www.florina.org

DONT TELL ME ABOUT THE ATHINAS SCHOOLS MANY OF MY RELATIVS HAS GONE THE ATHINAS SCHOOLS AND I KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TEACHING THE CHILDREN FOR BULL****!!!!!
ONE THING THAT WE ARE SHORE OF IS THAT WE ARE BOTH MACEDONIANS!!!!! I AM PURE MACEDONIAN AND YOU ARE ATHINA-MACEDONIAN(GRKOMAN).

THIS SUMMER I WILL GO TO VODEN, AS I DO EVERY YEAR AND IF YOU WANT I CAN MEET YOU THERE AND SHOW YOU THAT THE MACEDONIANS YOUR BROTHERS EXISTS AND LIVES THERE!!!!! WE CAN GO TO THE VILLAGES AROUND VODEN(EDEESA), LERIN(FLORINA), KOSTUR(CASTORIA) AND MANY OTHER PLACES TO SHOW YOU ABOUT US MACEDONIANS WHO LIVES UNDER ATHINAS THAT WE EXIST AND WILL FOREVER BE MACEDONIANS!!!!! WE HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURE, LAUNGWICH, HISTORI AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT!!!!!

AND ONE MORE THING YOU ARE JUSING TURKISH WORD LIKE MONASTIRI THAT IS A OLD TURKISH WORD FOR BITOLA WHO BELONGS TO THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA.
DONT FORGET THAT EVERY CITIES IN ATHINA HADE TURKISH NAMES DURING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD. IN THAT TIME YOUR STATE DID NOT EXIST BEFORE 1821 WITH HELP BY THE SUPERPOWERS DURING THAT TIME IT WAS CREATED ATHINAS.

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER, AMEN!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN!!!!!

Tell me this, Wasn't all of Macedonia under the ottoman empire as well? And I want you to tell me what you believe about Boris Sarafov , Todor Alexandroff , and Ivan Mihailov.

WE ARE MACEDONIANS WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS, YOU WANT TO BE WITH THE ATHINAS, I DONT WANT TO BE WITH THE ATHINAS OR SOFIAS OR BELGRAD I WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT FROM THIS 3 STATES AND HAVE A STATE MACEDONIAN THERE EVERY MINORITIES HAVE THE RIGHTS TO EXPRES THEM SELF AND LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE!!!!!

ALL OF MACEDONIA WAS UNDER THE OTTOMANS, DONT YOU KNOW
I HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES IN PELLA I HAVE RELATIVS WHO LIVES THERE!!!!! IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO GO TO!!!!!
RICH IN CULTURE AND MANY OTHER THINGS!!!!!

THE 3 PERSONS YOU WRITE ABOUT THEY WERE ENEMY TO THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE, THEY WERE FOR THE SOFIAS STATE BUT THEY HADE MACEDONIAN ORIGIN. KOPILINA SOFIAS!!!!!
THEY BELONG TO THE VRHOVISTI-VMRO WHO WERE FOR THE SOFIAS STATE MY HATE TO THIS PEOPLE IS TOTAL!!!!!
I DONT WANT TO SAY THERE NAME BECAUSE I HATE THIS TRAITORS! THERE WERE TO MANY MACEDONIANS WHO WERE LIKE THIS 3 PERSONS WHO GET MONEY TO WORK FOR THE SOFIAS, ATHINAS, BELGRAD AND FOR THE OTTOMANS TO SELL THERE OWN PEOPLE!!!!!
KOTTAS THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN TO SELL YOUR OWN ORIGIN TO BE SOMETHING YOU CANT BE LIKE THIS 3 PERSONS YOU WRITE ABOUT!!!!! MAY THERE TRAITORS SOLLS BURN IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FORGET THE NAME MONASTIRI BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE TURKISH WHO IS JUSING IT DURING THE OTTOMAN PERIOD AND YOU ARE NOT A TURKISH PERSON!

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN!!!!!

Did Gruev create VMRO in Sofia??? Because I read this in 2 books.I read that Gruev went to Sofia a few times? Is this true???? And what books can you tell me to get about the VMRO? Why do so many Macedonians now have last names that end with "OV" and "SKI"? The Macedonians of Alexander and Philpas did not have names like that???

YOU KOTTAS CAN BELEIVE IN WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT VMRO-PURE MACEDONIAN ORGANISATION.
VMRO WAS CREATED 1893 IN SOLUN BY 6 MEMBERS PURE MACEDONIANS AND NOT IN SOFIAS,THAT IS A PURE PROPAGANDA FROM ATHINAS STATE WHY AM I NOTE SUPPRAISE!

GRUEV WAS TO HIS DEAD FOR A PURE MACEDONIAN VMRO AGAINST THE PROPAGANDA FROM THE VRHOVISTI(SOFIAS VMRO)
GRUEV WAS 3 TIMES IN SOFIA TO BE SPOKER FOR THE MACEDONIAN VMRO TO INFORM THE REST OF WORLD THAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR US MACEDONIANS AND NOTE FOR THE SOFIAS AS THEY TRIED TO MAKE US TO SOFIAS. WE HADE
VMRO MEMBERS WHO WERE IN ATHINAS WITH THE SAME PURPOSE
AND TO BUY WEAPONS FROM THE ATHINAS AND THE SAME WAS IN BELGRAD.

YOU KOTTAS READ GRKOMANSKI HISTORI BOOK WITH FALSIFICAT HISTORI OF YOUR OWN MACEDONIAN PEOPLE!!!!!
I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU AND YOUR BRAINWASH RELATIVES!!!!!

I AM LIKE YOU FROM EGEI MACEDONIA, BUT I KNOW MY OWN PURE MACEDONIAN HISTORI NOT LIKE YOU THAT HAS BEEN BRAINWASH BY THE ATHINAS WHO ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM US MACEDONIANS.

FOR A FREE AND UNITED MACEDONIA EGEI, PIRIN AND VARDAR!!!!!

REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER!!!!!

PURE MACEDONIAN FROM VODEN!!!!!