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big grizzly bare (no login)
Posted Apr 2, 2009 11:29 AM
Hi guys;
I have noticed something about these debates on grace. Folks are trying so hard to win that things get twisted. You say the "R" word and he sees doctrine even when it's not there, but sometimes it is. Ramblin man and I believe that grace is like air, it's all around you and free to everyone, but you have to accept it to benefit from it. Now from this stand point you said that he thinks that all God cares about is hell and damnation. That is a debating trick of throwing his point all the way to one extreme. I love you guys, but these debates bother me. No one wants to know the truth, everyone wants to push his belief. What would it take to reach an agreement? What proof would make one side or the other say, "you know I was wrong about that, thanks for showing me"? The Bible? That doesn't work. You can explain a 1,000 scriptures and simply get a, "that's just a parable, or your reading the wrong translation, etc." If ramblin man and I are wrong and Boyd's theory is right, than we have harmed no one. We simply erred on the side of caution. However, if we are right and Salvation only comes by accepting Jesus as a savior. Then this forum could be responsible for sending an untold number of people into the lake of fire. I don't know if it will do any good, but let's look at scripture. In Acts chapter 2 after Peter's sermon, it says the men were pricked in their hearts and asked men and brothers what shall we do?
At this point Peter could have said, "nothing, Jesus paid it all, just live in what has been done for you." We know this is not what was said, instead he said, "repent". Repenting is part of accepting Jesus, and when we do our dead spirit is then reborn, with God's Holy Spirit living inside it. Maybe we should ask God who has the correct doctrine? I have been man enough to admit I was wrong before about nudity. If God will clear this up, I will follow whatever he says. Is there some way He can show us here, that all of us would accept? |
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