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A confession and a step of faith

March 18 2004 at 7:51 PM
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Everybody,

Only a few of you know of the questions that I've had concerning this board lately, but I feel that I owe you all an apology.

I feel things very deeply, and I am quick to become very attached to people. However, since certain people(nobody here) have in the past betrayed me and hurt me very deeply, I am also quick to become very defensive, often retreating into a depressed funk if I feel that I have been slighted.

When I saw a few seeming inconsistencies and coincidences here, I was quick to jump to unfounded conclusions. Although I have repeatedly told my wife that nobody here "feels" wrong or insincere, I have worried and fussed over these unnecessary troubles for quite some time. Now, the answers to those questions no longer matter to me.

I don't have, nor have I ever had, any reason to take anything that anybody here says at anything less that face value. I will not do so from now on. I'm tired of doing anything less, and you all deserve more.

I consider everyone here to be a friend, and I was simply afraid of being hurt again if I stuck my emotional neck out. I guess it's easier to see the bad than to accept the good.

If I have offended anyone, you have my sincere apology.

For me, unconditional trust is a big step of faith. I may be acting naive, but if I am to grow, much less have any friends, I need to be more trusting.

Everyone here has shown themselves to be loving, caring, Christian people, and I pray you will all accept my apologies.

May God Bless You All
Kevin P
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Boyd Allen
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Not only accepted and forgiven, but....

March 19 2004, 9:05 AM 

...long forgotten!

If you did show an attitude toward someone, it was long forgotten. We are more interested in helping each other here than holding grudges. We don't have time for that.

The fact that you have still been coming to this board tells me that you are still trying, as we all are.

However, we do appreciate your confession of your worries and fears, and now we can help you when you need it. Of course, you may have to ask us for help because we may not recognize the problem right away.

I am also glad you talked to your wife about it, and I hope she will see this board as it is really meant to be.

One of the reasons we don't jump on every little mistep people take is because so many other boards do this a lot, and they drive people away, like me.

So I avoid doing that as much as possible. IF I do find a problem, then I will do what I can to personally write to the person, but more important, post a "Reach Out" message to them. And I hope that we all do that as well.

Not all people are door greeters, not all are apostles, not all are worship leaders, not all are councelors, not all are pastors, teachers, healers, youth pastors, evangelists or have the same stregnths or talents. But ALL are valued members of the Body, and all have a part in encouraging and serving each other. Especially in worship to the Lord.

"Love God with all your heart, mind and soul, and the second is like unto it, love your neighbor as yourself" --Jesus

Boyd

 
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May I also add:

March 19 2004, 9:22 AM 

Kevin P, you have emailed me about some things that didn't look right, and I really did appreciate you doing so!! I cannot see or read everything everytime. Sometimes I am away for a while and something gets posted that is not appropriate and it is there for a few days.

So I do appreciate the "watch dogs" here on the board. I did not consider you as being any more than that.

If anyone here feels that something is not right, please feel very free (as in going nude) to write to me personally and point these issues out.

It would be very helpful if you give the persons name, subject title and date. And why you feel it is inappropriate. Sometimes I may leave it on the board for a lesson in how to work with people. Sometimes the person lashes out, only to find out they need us to Reach Out to them and bring them in. They need Christ too.

So don't feel bad about letting us know what is bothering you. That is why we are here. To discuss Christianity and Naturism in a Safe Place.

Show me a church without imperfect people and I'll show you an empty building.

{{{{Group Hug}}}} to all!

Boyd Allen

 
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That's easy to do in this lifestyle.

March 21 2004, 12:49 PM 

The fact is that many so called Christians are not the real thing. They might even wear a cross, or profess as such, but in reality just believe they are without walking the walk, or talking the talk!

I pity them really I do because they do not know the true joys of both being a Christian, or Christian Nudist-naturist. If they did the lifestyle would be much more accepted among the textile, and non nudist Christian world.

If one only takes the time to read the bible they find it is acceptable if not done in a sexual manner, but for the worship of God in the au natural. It can be a blessed time, but with so many pedos, pervs that love to watch us, and not really are nudists- let alone not being Christian it makes for many of us to be very leary, and uncertain of each other.

I became a Christian first then my nudist aunt introduced me to it taking myself,and my female cousin to a place outside Dayton where many skinny dipped.Not really understanding they introduced me to a minister, and a nun that were Christian nudists who helped me to see it is not sin. They debunked the trash about us not being nude in front of each other.

So since age 12 I have as often as I can been nude. My wife Cynthia went with me to Cypress Cove her first out of the closet nudist experience,and beat me getting nude when she saw the camp then did not want to leave. We had our honeymoon there.

During our visits to many camps we found both Christians,and pervs, and it really bothered us too. It is just that some camps do have very nasty reps like one in north Land o Lakes north of Lake Como, and Island Group (Name not mentioned, but if you ever been there you know about the extreme withccraft,and perversion that goes on.

Just this could drive many good Christian nudists away, but we hung in there because you just have to have faith,and find the right ones. Families find other families. Couples find others. It is just a matter of asking the right questions, and being observant. Faith, prayer, and living the lifestyle is all we can pray for to find the right ones.
RevCharles

 
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Boyd Allen
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Welcome

March 21 2004, 5:25 PM 

Hello RevCharles, Welcome to our board.
We are glad to have new people here, (and if you have been here before, I might have forgotten, so forgive me on that).

From the sounds of it, you had plenty of training in naturism from youth. I had no training. I just had to get out there and learn. But like your wife, I didn't want to leave the place my first day either.

You mentioned some clubs (be careful of that, seeing that we may get them mad at me here. If true, then we can email and discuss it) that are in Florida. I assume that Florida is where you are living now?

We are making plans on moving there this summer, in Ocala (Marion County).

I haven't heard of any problems at these clubs, but as Christians, we cannot allow ourselves to be run off at every site of a problem. Somebody has to set a Christian example! Yes, most clubs have their issues, but I know some churches that do to. I just would like for Christians naturists to be strong and full of faith in Jesus Christ....including me!

Just like everyone here, I am learning and growing too. I just happened to start a board here and off it went!

I was just talking to my pastor today and told him how well this forum has picked up, especially with families and youth.

Again, welcome and we hope you continue your discussion here.

BTW, spelling check: Your site has the word Christian spelled: "Crhistian", you may want to check it out.

Boyd


 
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