Jochen told me, you, Kuzen would miss me, so I will take the time to write a few lines. How are you by the way? How is your neck pain? I hope you are well!
A lot of things happened in the last months, and I canīt write about all, but I will do my best.
First the bad news(for you) Iīm still no nudist. Now the good news: Weīve been to a naturist beach in New South Wales with the children this summer, and we all were naked and it was just fine. I didnīt find it embarassing at all. There were only few people anyway. But the air feels so good around your body. Maybe Jack already told you. Bad thing ist, this beach is so far away.
Then I was workong in a Greenhouse for 3.5 months, which was very hard, because it was extremely hot (50-60 degree centigrade) and humid in there, and
I had to drive quite a long distance to get there. I didnīt earn very much too. So I quit and now am again on the lookout for a job, where I donīt have to work too hard.
This week our eldest daughter will go to Canberra with her school for a week. Could you pray for protection please? Itīs such a long trip.
The whole last month I was busy `rescuing` a friend, whose wife had betrayed him with a friend for four years. He was believing in the sanctity of marriage, and this was quite a shock for him. They have four children, all grown up expect the 9 year old whom she took with her. I spend a lot of time talking to him, also about faith, and when he got better, I found a new wife for him ( another friend of mine who was lonely too) Could you please pray for them, that they might get on together in a better and more honest way? His name is Mark. Thanks in advance.
Yesterday I urged Jochen to join a Gym, which he did now, because heīs getting too fat. I attend a Gym since half a year now, and I realy feel like a new person. But I must admit, that I only go there regularly, because I paid one year in advance.
Did you know, that scientists where discussing to put photos of nude (!) humans into the voyager capsule, but where voted out by others who thought, that the extraterrestrials would get a shock when seeing them? So the extraterrestrials will pitifully never know how humans look like without clothes. This was all done with the tax you paided. It might annoy you as it does me.
And did you know that Issak Newton, who was one of the most intelligent men wo ever lived on this planet and who devoted at least half of his time to studying christian issues came to the conclusion that there is NO TRINITY???? Thatīs my opinion too. All live is divine, not only Jesus. Everybody has access to the spirit too.
I wish you all a good time and have fun being naked. Everyone has to decide what is best for him. Thatīs why we are here on earth for: to develop our character, isnīt it. And that means finding out what is best too.
Friederike
Something really annoying happened to me whilst working in the greenhouse. I wasnīt wearing a bra because it was so hot. So I was just wearing an ordinary T-shirt. But because they had sprinklers on in the greenhouse, I eventually got wet. Some men then complained to the boss about this, becouse they said, they had seen my nipples. The boss( a women) then had a severe talk with me in which she stated, that I had to were a bra under all circumstances, and that I too wouldnīt like to work with a guy with no underwear at all on, would I. When I then complained it was far too hot, and they should build in climatisation, she said; In what world are you living in? We are in Australia, we will only build in fans, if you give me 5 thousand dollars. And by the way: we didnīt tell you to wark here, it was solely your decision!
What is one to think about this? What do you think?
I am sorry to say that some men are animals. They think about sex every 2-3 minutes of their life. Nucc I am not sure why you join this forum. Its clear to me that you have some behavioral problems. First, women have breastnot boobs. Oops! Men have Breast too. Some of the men I see in public should be wearing bra's too. I was watching a TV show the other day and saw the actres nipples threw her (man made)bra. Nucc I would read the front pages on Boyd Allen's website before you belittle a women atanomy.
Unfortunately, employers have a say regarding dress codes. One friend who is a roofer says his company requires that they wear a shirt at all times. He said they had one lady customer who told them that they could all go topless. They couldn't because their employer wouldn't allow it.
My company used to require us to wear ties. I started not wearing them and didn't get any static over it. In fact, the company came out with the edict that no ties are okay in the summer time. Colored shirts were allowed, too.
Your fellow workers should have complained to you. This is the Christian principle. Can't imagine why they complained at all though.
I'm a little surprised that Australians would care about a thing like that, but people are peopleand therefore unpredictable.
Employers do get to make the rules on things like this, so there's probably not much you can do. I take it that you've now quit the greenhouse job. In any future situation you may want to wear a shirt that doesn't turn transparent.
I keep encouraging my wife not to wear a bra. There's some pretty good evidence that they are a major factor in causing breast cancer. Sometimes she follows my advice.
It really is too bad so many people get "hung up" on issues such as whether a woman is wearing a bra. It certainly isn't a safety issue (like wearing a hard hat when trimming trees), is it? Comfort is really the point -- and, if you are comfortable not wearing a bra, then do what is comfortable. To me (and my husband, Josh) the issue of wearing a bra is not important. I am always pleased when I meet women who feel free to choose to go without! It sure is what I enjoy when I feel the time is right ...
P.S. We just got back from a vacation -- but that is another story I hope to share soon in another thread ...
Nucc, why if you are a christian as you said in yesterdays post do feel justified in going on a forum where you don't agree with the basic beliefs and bothering people who haven't done anything to you? You made statements about Jesus not having told people to go around nude or Him not having set an example of doing so. I would like you to explain where in Gods word you find the liberty to do what you are doing. Or do you serve a god that allows rude behaviour and comments. Your god is probably giggling at your infantile behaviour.I think your mother is calling you.
Bearone
Actually, Jesus DID set an example of nudity being okay, both directly and indirectly.
If you do a proper word-study, you will find that Jesus actually was nude, at least part of the time, when He washed His disciples' feet. No problem. He was also nude, as was the custom, at His baptism. Also no problem. He also did not appear to have a problem with others being nude in very public settings. Referance His appearance to Peter on the beach after His resurection. The Bible says that Peter put on his clothes before he jumped out of the boat. I know alot of "modern" Bibles say he was only partially undressed, but again go to the original. Peter was nekkid.
Furthermore, I have to agree with Bearone: if you don't approve with naturism/nudism, why are you here? By Boyd's first post, this is a forum for discussion of Christianity, nudity/nudism, or both. I have seen no true discussion from you to any of those topics, only brief comments apparently suggesting we are improper. Could you illuminate me a bit, please?
I don't mind listening to opposing view-points, I actually think they help us by keeping us from resting on our back-sides too much. But, what are your opinions? Why did you feel the need to post here? I'm curious.
It's wonderful to hear from you again. We've been enjoying Jack's posts, but we like to hear from you also.
I see you're still having trouble making up your mind about naturism. "I'm still no nudist," you said, but you had a wonderful family time at a nude beach. Good for you. Nowhere is it written that we have to be consistent.
Now I'm going to exercise my right to proclaim that anyone who enjoys wonderful family times at the beach in the nude is a naturist in my book.
I'm sorry that it has been hard for you to find the sort of work you would like to do. Years ago I worked in a greenhouse. It was hard in the summer for sure, though not so bad in the winter.
Thank you for inquiring about my neck. No bones in my neck were damaged in the car wreck. However, some of the nerves in my neck are inflamed and are painful. I am beginning physical therapy. This should help a good bit.
Jill, I agree with Luvnaturism that you are a naturist. Your visit to the naturist beach in New South Wales with your children proves this. '..and we all were naked and it was just fine. I didnīt find it embarassing at all.'
I feel that you are confusing two separate issues. Being a naturist does not require that a person be nude or naked as frequently as possible. Choosing when you wish to be nude or naked qualifies you as a naturist. In other words, if you choose to be nude or naked only one time a year, you would still qualify as a naturist. I hope that this helps.
You wrote, 'Did you know, that scientists where discussing to put photos of nude (!) humans into the voyager capsule, but where voted out by others who thought, that the extraterrestrials would get a shock when seeing them? So the extraterrestrials will pitifully never know how humans look like without clothes.'
Actually, the disk on board the Voyager had stylized figures of a human male and a human female aboard.
Keep making your choices as you want and when you wish about being a naturist.
The forms sent into space are just outlines of the human body. There are enough other lines present to make it claear that one image is female and the other image is a male. In other words, they are anatomically correct.
Hope that this helps.
Jill, thank you for 'coming home' to our Forum. Just keep posting as often as you wish. You add a lot.
I've heard of no one complaining that the Wimbleton women's winner showed her nipples. I was on the phone with my neighbor when I saw her for the first time. I commented that it looked like she was braless. Neighbor said, "You're kidding!"
During the final game, I got a better look. Looks like there was kind of a bra built into her tennis dress top. Still, her nipples showed.
They have changed the styles of Bras today. Us women don't wear those tight Corest from the Victorian age anymore. But still, we have these ultra thin lining bra's that make us look more firm and show our nipples'. It's up you men. Stand strong for us!!! Help us build a better tomorrow. We need your support to be top free. Write your congress man today.
