by my words down the page yesterday (Bothered). If you may have thought in uncaring or harsh, the mistreatment of others is not acceptable behaviour because you have an issue of your own.
I have never been a advocate of group therapy for the reasons you may have read in the posts preceding mine. To allow one to ease their own burden at the expense of the pain of another not only hurts the other but really does nothing for yourself. I agree with Tevita that N.N.Hound has issues that need to be addressed but respect for the feelings of others has always been a trademark of this site. I hold no anger or animosity toward that person but I would not stand by and watch the hurt that comes from the abuse suffered by others be treated lightly and seemingly supported as OK. The pain and confusion that was created in my life by someone very close has been forgiven long ago, however the scars of those injuries remain for life. My understanding of how my detractor became that way was a turning point for me. Bad manners and bad attitudes are too easily blamed on others but you still need to control yourself. Bearone
I agree that an open forum such as this not the place to let fly with your own personal hurts and the overflow of your own issues. N.N Hound needs to temper his responses so he does not hurt others by trying to reduce his own feelings of hurt. This Forum is not group therapy as it is not controlled enough by a therapist. Group therapy is not generally used for issues around abuse and being domminated by others, what tends to happen is that futher abuse tends to occur.
I recommend that N.N.Hound go and get the help he needs from a Qualified therapist in his local area. There are Christian Therapists too.
Tevita
I have to agree with Bearone. I felt NNH was belittling those of us that posted about abuse and he enjoyed it. I have learned that when someone breaks a leg we feel their pain. Without bringing out the Bible and quote a verses or two. When someone talks or shares about their emotional or sexual abuse,everyone is grabbing their Bibles and telling how we are unjustified. The Bible has Beautiful words from God and we should use it as our shield not a weapon. NNH it not a logical person because he quotes from the feminist, newpapers, and data base information. Well, I know that Jobs had to deal with those around him that belittled him as they told him that he wasn't following/close with God. I feel that NNH has a very sad way of looking at life and only he can heal himself. I pray that other see his posting and ingore it. Don't even open his post from now on. If he uses another name, you'll know its him by his satire statements.
First off, let me say that I agree with everything that you and others have said, so that you don't take this wrong...
... but, don't the scriptures refer to the Word of God as a sword? I know that that dosn't mean to use the Bible to hurt others, but... well, it just jumped out at me. Sorry.
Kevin, I have said this before and it's still true, I was born a warrior. I was thirty years old before I finally found the right war. I don't want to get caught up in the old war. The scripture says "sharper than any two edged sword". It's more comparitive strength than a suggested use. Bearone
Well, no I did not really enjoy it all
that much, and I apologize for my temper.
Don't take it personally, I'm not angry at
you, I'm just angry at the planet and the
abuse paradigm you were representing.
I just came out of a ten year nightmare
only to find another one. Guess I was
wrong to take it out on you.
It has been my experience that most claims
of sexual abuse are false, I guess it has
left me angry and perhaps a little biased.
Guess I picked the wrong place to blow off steam.
Sorry about that.
But if you want me to believe that you are still
having "nightmares" years after your father is dead,
you are going to have to pull them out of your head
and show them to me.
Maybe you do have nightmares, or maybe
you just have a bad therapist.
BTW,
I find your quote: "NNH it not a logical person
because he quotes from the feminist, newspapers,
and data base information" interesting.
Not sure if I understand where you are coming from.
Do you feel I'm being less than objective in selecting
my sources, or do you mean that feminists, newspapers,
and data bases in general are unreliable ?
It has been my experience that most claims
of sexual abuse are false, I guess it has
left me angry and perhaps a little biased.
Guess I picked the wrong place to blow off steam.
Sorry about that.
But if you want me to believe that you are still
having "nightmares" years after your father is dead,
you are going to have to pull them out of your head
and show them to me.
It has been my experience that most claims of abuse are not only real but the wounds they cause go deep, very deep. So deep that an individual still has nightmares even if the abuser has long since been deceased. I guess you and I have had different experiences with abuse. I don't have nightmares anymore but only because the Spirit taught me how to fight back in my dreams. Sure enough, the hurt is still there. I've learned from this group that forgiveness is the cure. So, I'm going to do just that even though I may struggle with it. I'm determined to forgive. Jesus will get me through it!
Agreed, and that is how I would like to see this Forum working.
We are not a "group therapy" session, but we do act like a "small study group" (biblicaly speaking) here, which acts in part like a "spiritual therapy" group. We must be sensative, but at the same time, stand up for the truth. We don't create "truth" here, we uphold it.
We have some good pillars here and they have kept this board on the up and up.
That is why I instituted a second editor here so we can catch these issues early, and I have caught some before others had a chance to see them and post there.
Sometimes, if something really upsets you, instead of getting upset and blowing off the character, try writing to me or Kevin and tell us about it. We will investigate and remove if necessary. By doing this, the character who tried to smear us will not get the satisfaction of a heated response, but get deleted instead. They may not like it, but tough. I have the right to clean house.
By writing to us instead of blowing off the character, you can save some time going back apologizing for your previous post. We can get on with the work of Christian Naturism.
However, if and when you do respond to someone, by all means, be consistant with our way of doing things here. If you have trouble writing your thoughts down, or if you did write it down (I have done this before), read it over FIRST, THEN send it or back out of it and not send it at all! Sometimes just me writing it down and reading it is enough to get rid of the agitation in me and I don't need to let the others read it. It is not necessary. So I remove it and not post it.
Think what you are saying first, read it over (good way to catch misspellings) use the Preview button first, read it over, catch the mistakes, and use the edit button and fix it. You will be surprised at how much you change if you do this. Then many of our bad grammar, misspellings and of course, our anger, will be changed and the content will make more sense.
If we are in too big of a hurry (or too angry) to write, then maybe we don't need to write at this time. Or find another subject to post on.
I like what you had to say, Boyd! I always pray, read, reread, and pray before I post anything anywhere.
I thought this might help...
Now the doings (practices) of the flesh are clear (obvious): they are immorality, impurity, indecency,
Idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger (ill temper), selfishness, divisions (dissensions), party spirit (factions, sects with peculiar opinions, heresies),
Envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,
Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [that can bring a charge].
I have also taken notes about things that I want to respond to, then go off-line and write my reply on Word, then if I still want to post it later ,I can copy and paste.
,I can copy and paste.