I just got this email today and thought you all may want to join in the hot topic for Christian Naturism:
--- VicJane <vicjane@prodigy.net.mx> wrote:
> Greetings Boyd;
> > The opening of a interesting research is underway
> questioning wether Jesus
> was nude durring the 40 days being tempted in the
> wilderness, here is part
> of our post over at naurist-christians; Yes the
> subject matter is very
> sensitive, but what we thoroughly do know is not to
> leave any analysis of
> this to the mainstreamers. However there is little
> doubt that the collective
> knowledge of the Christian Naturist researchers in
> this form would not come
> to a reasonably accurate conclusion, seeing we first
> seek God’s wisdom and
> will. Of course the up most of caution will be
> observed as we progress in
> seeking the truth of this matter, as it could prove
> to be a milestone in the
> advancement and acceptance of Christian Naturism,
> while above all bringing
> all the Glory to God the Father.
> > Another point is this, would the Lord ever ask
> anyone to do something that
> the Lord would not do himself? i.e. would the Lord
> expect Isaiah and other
> Prophets to go naked and or bare foot for several
> years and not be willing
> to endure the same hardships, and exhibit his own
> naked body in like manner?
> Jesus came as a servant to man, and being humble and
> naked would be a strong
> example of his humbleness, even in like the washing
> of the disciples feet.
> > Here are some Greek definitions of some of the key
> words;
> > M'r:1:11: And there came a voice from heaven,
> saying, Thou art my beloved
> Son, in whom I am well pleased.
> M'r:1:12: And immediately the Spirit driveth him
> into the wilderness.
> > Strongs Concise Greek Dictionary
> (immediately) - 2117 euthus
> [ Use | Lex ]
> yoo-thoos'-perhaps from 2095 and 5087; straight,
> i.e. (literally) level, or
> (figuratively) true; adverbially (of time) at once
> KJV-anon, by and by, forthwith, immediately,
> straightway
> > Not only the word “immediately” but the word
> “driveth” have strong impact
> when researching in the Greek.
> > (driveth) - Thayer's Greek Lexicon
> 1544 ekballo {ek-bal'-lo}
> > [ Use | Stg ]
> > from 1537 and 906; TDNT - 1:527,91; v
> AV - cast out 45, cast 11, bring forth 3, pull out
> 3, send forth 3, misc 17;
> 82
> > 1. to cast out, drive out, to send out
> > a. with notion of violence
> > 1. to drive out (cast out)
> 2. to cast out
> > a. of the world, i.e. be deprived of the power and
> influence he exercises in
> the world
> b. a thing: excrement from the belly into the sink
> > 3. to expel a person from a society: to banish from
> a family
> 4. to compel one to depart; to bid one depart, in
> stern though not violent
> language
> 5. so employed that the rapid motion of the one
> going is transferred to the
> one sending forth
> 51. to command or cause one to depart in haste
> 6. to draw out with force, tear out
> 7. with implication of force overcoming opposite
> force
> > a. to cause a thing to move straight on its intended
> goal
> > 8. to reject with contempt, to cast off or away
> > b. without the notion of violence
> > 1. to draw out, extract, one thing inserted in
> another
> 2. to bring out of, to draw or bring forth
> 3. to except, to leave out, i.e. not receive
> 4. to lead one forth or away somewhere with a force
> which he cannot resist
> > This is a basic run down of the Greek in reference
> to only two key words,
> indicating that Jesus did not in any way hesitate,
> the question that needs
> more research is whether Jesus had a nude baptism or
> not, as this is why we
> shared this with brother Sandloper to help research
> this subject also, as no
> statement of fact has been said.
> > Shalom
> > VJ
============ *And this was my reply to this thought:*
Believe it or not, I came to the exact same conclusion just a few weeks ago when our pastor taught about Jesus and how "immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness."
First thing I thought of was...If he were nude at the baptism and he "immediately" rose up out of the water, as if he were "lifted" up in a poweful way and in a way, dragged out into the wilderness, did he take the time to grab his clothes? Was he, very much like Saint Francis, walked straight out of town without a stitch? Maybe that is what St. Francis was portraying!
What is amazing is that this thought is now going over the naturist group at about the same time! Coincidence? Holy spirit? or us just reading into something in a wishful way?
May the Lords thoughts and revelations be our guide.
BTW, I plan to post this same question out on my BACN forum
http://www.network54.com/Forum/83405/>
for further thoughts.
Thank you,
Boyd
============== And so I did post it here ==============
May the holy spirit guide your thoughts and lead us to the TRUTH!
Boyd Allen
"May the Lord protect our nudity from the sight of those who will not benefit, and may he allow us to be seen by those who will."
