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Wondering....

July 11 2006 at 3:22 AM
drhornist  (no login)

Rob posted below that his wife finally joined him hiking the gorge in NY, and swimming, nude.
And there are other reluctant wives here. So I'm wondering, am I weird? (O.K., well, I may have
opened a door there, so let me narrow, really narrow, this down. ) I enjoy being nude. I
had a GREAT first experience last August and again in December. There were a few butterflies
both times when I initially undressed in the car, but they quickly went away and I actually forgot
that I was nude. I just enjoyed myself and being outdoors au natural. Granted, I've never been
in public outside a resort, nude; i.e., hiking like Rob and swimming in a "nudist spot" in the river.
But I don't think that would bother me either. I think I would rather enjoy it because it sure beats
the alternative, which I've dealt with many times, of sweaty clothes sticking to me. But I get the
feeling that I'm not like a lot of the women connected with you men around these parts.

Just wondering...

PEACE!
Nancy

 
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I see weird people!

July 11 2006, 6:14 AM 

I have a feeling that most of these women actually enjoy being nude. It scares them that they enjoy it. They feel as if "enjoying" something physical like this will get them into trouble with God.

It's like enjoying sex to the fullest. Many were taught that having sex is a job and obligation like having to clean up baby poop. In fact, sometimes I think some women enjoy cleaning up baby poop more than sex the way they talk about it.

But when their bodies are associated with sex, physical passion, ugliness, fear, worry, and weight issues, then it's no wonder they are afraid to even go to bed nude. Why is going to bed nude so troublesome? How do they take baths? They are more exposed taking baths than going to bed! But logic is not a part of this thought pattern.

When you learn to step out in faith and overcome fear, then you have an advantage in your world and able to enfluence the world around you.

Sometimes though, even in our faith and courage, we are sometimes held back by those who's fear is so overwhelming that we have to hold back to keep peace in the family.

You are not weird, just have a different perspective of fear and worry. You even take your pain and sickness in stride and able to get out and do something in spite of it. That takes courage and faith. Scared, frustrated, angry sometimes, yes, but at least your doing something in spite of it.

Naturism is a social release for you. If you were married, would it be different? Yes because you are involving someone more personal, almost "too close" to make these moves as quickly. But again, you may find someone who is the right person for you to help you move into naturism and a more Godly way of life than you are going now. Depends on how God wants to bless you.

Being married does have it's bad points too. But sacrifice is all a part of it and we have to realize that others are making sacrifices for us as well. Such as allowing us to go nude when if we never brought the subject up in the first place, our mates would have never even thought of it, let alone say something about it.

So it's the nudists who are bringing it to the attention of their mates who otherwise would have never even gave it a first glancing thought, let alone a second thought. So our mates, who would never have thought of it, are now having to face it in 3D and learning to bend their brain around it. You on the other hand had the ability to think of it and come to terms with it on your own and with help from people who do not have a personal agenda to get you out there. Yes, we encouraged you and gave you what you needed to step out in faith, but even then, it would not have affected us (as we may know it) if you dropped out of sight and never joined us. So you feel safe to discuss it with us and give it some serious thought.

Those who would never have thought of it is having a harder time with the ones that matter to them most, their mates who seem to be on the loony side compared to what they know.

Now that doesn't mean they will never come around, the may, but slowly. So you are witnessing someone who would have NEVER thought of going nude in the house, let alone in public, actually "walking on water" so to speak. Yes they may enjoy it physically, but mentally, they are still living in the past world of fear and definitions of what is weird.

You are not weird, you are one of us......oh....yeah...well...anyway, you know what I mean!


Boyd Allen
"May the Lord protect our nudity from the sight of those who will not benefit, and may he allow us to be seen by those who will."



 
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Wierd???

July 11 2006, 7:13 AM 

I think Boyd hit on a lot of variables above.

I am married to the proverbial "reluctant spouse" but she is even softening some. Some of the reasons she gives are, like metalsmiths situation, job related and, while not reasonable, are huge in her mind. Some of the reason she gives are body image related. Lastly are the "religeous" arguments, although those have almost disappeared.

I think there are a lot of barriers that many women cross before venturing into social nudity. They include:


  • Being raised to believe that nudity is wrong outside the bedroom
  • The religious "lie" that God hates the naked body
  • The Hollywood "lie" that nudity and sex are the same
  • The Pornographers "lie" that nudity makes you slutty (similar to the Hollywood lie but less acceptable)
  • The lack of a "God based" body image
  • The peer pressure ("What would my friends say?")
  • The fear that my child(ren) will learn about sex too soon and become crazed.
  • Fear due to prior abuse.


Nancy, from what I remember of your story, although you grew up in a family who don't approve (as far as you know) of social nudity, you still found it beneficial to practice your horn naked. You didn't let the society around you color your opinions of nudity.

I once heard a guy comment on I Peter 2:9 (KJV) which starts out "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people". He said "I have the peculiar part down!".

I think many of us in that forum down.

 
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wierd?

July 11 2006, 12:26 PM 

I'd say that everyone has a differant thing that is easy for them and something else that is hard for them. I have no clue why one is one way or an other. I guess some individuals know themselves well enough to say why something bothers them. But many don't have a clue.

My wife has no problems being nude around me. As long as we are along she is willing. If I mention something about about a nude resort, the thing she says is doesn't want to see some old people naked. It probably goes back to seeing teacher's arms in school. lol

that's my thought,
dayhiker

 
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Nancy, if you're weird...

July 11 2006, 8:45 PM 

...then the world can do with a lot more weirdness! lol

 
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Re: Nancy, if you're weird...

July 13 2006, 3:50 PM 

Youare not weird!Now Ive been reading alot of threads of women that wouldnt normally get naked did. Thats great I wish I were the husband of one of these , do keep me in prayer it seems there is always hope , just need patience something I want right now (lol).I agree though if Nancy is weird the world could use some more weird people

James

 
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Your not alone....

July 14 2006, 11:24 PM 

I know of one couple that are members of the club we go to of which the lady is why they are both nudists today. Her mother raised her to have a mind of her own, which apparently she did a good job of. This girl discovered the nude lifestyle in her sophmore year of high school. (her mother is not in any way involved in naturism) When she met her boyfreind at collage she talked him into it, he thought it was weird, but he thought to himself "it's worth a try, at least once" he's been hooked ever since.

After this the couple took a trip down to Texas, to visit her dad. (I hear Texas is a nice state) While there they noticed that her dad and step-mother had dark curtains over the windows and towles draped over the furniture. But what really caught their attention was something they found in the bathroom that had "Caliente" inscribed on it...as she says "maybe it's in the genetics" The thought of her dad being a nudist had never crossed her mind before.

Daniel

 
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Musicman
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Nancy, I'd like you to meet my wife!

July 20 2006, 2:06 AM 

Hi, Nancy

I reckon that I fall into the category of being much more interested than my wife. But that's not the real reason I'm responding to your post.

My wife is also a hornist, as you are! (don't think she's every practiced nude...perhaps you could suggest it to her!)

But she and I are exploring lifting the ban on nudity in our home with our children. She might benefit from and enjoy interacting with you. At any rate, I would appreciate any investment you might be able to make with her.

I'm not sure exactly how to initiate private contact with you and her (I certainly don't want to post up any personal email addresses in this forum), but if you would be willing, I could be sent and send personal messages in the context of the Christian Naturist Village site (cnvillage.org) (Boyd showed up there not long ago!) where my handle is musicman2. There are also several others on this site that are members there. I suppose they could vouch for me if you wanted references.... Or just go on the CNV site and read my posts about my quest in these issues.

Thanks for your consideration.

David

 
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