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Modesty VS Prudery and False Sense of Shame

September 20 2006 at 6:59 AM
Boyd Allen  (no login)

I was going over the Wikipedia file on Christian Naturism and under "Jesus was naked, yet without sin" subtitle, I found this interesting quote:

A. W. Tozer

From The Pursuit of God - Chapter 10: The Sacrament of Living:

"The monkish hatred of the body which figures so prominently in the works of certain early devotional writers is wholly without support in the word of God. Common modesty is found in the sacred Scriptures, it is true, but never prudery or a false sense of shame. The New Testament accepts as a matter of course that in His incarnation our Lord took upon Him a real human body, and no effort is made to steer around the downright implications of such a fact. He lived in that body here among men and never once performed a non-sacred act. His presence in human flesh sweeps away forever the evil notion that there is about the human body something innately offensive to the Deity. God created our bodies and we do not offend Him by placing the responsibility where it belongs. He is not ashamed of the work of His own hands."

I bolded the part I wanted seen because I found it interesting that "modesty" is far different than "prudery" and "false sense of shame".

The bible does mention "modesty" though never explained exactly what God's modesty is in comparison to mans modesty, and it's true that the bible never implied prudery or false sense of shame, which is based on fear.

Martin Luther was a monk himself and has lived a monk lifestyle by living within the confines of a monestary. When he left the monestary to do the work of God, he found out quickly that it was wrong to live that way. He found that in order to serve the needs of the world, you need to be IN the world! Jesus said it when he prayed "Though they are still IN the world, they are not OF the world". (Caps mine for emphasis)

This is made for further study!

Boyd

 
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viking
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code of christian naturism

September 21 2006, 1:30 AM 



Clothing is to be used when necessary because of custom of keeping hidden one's body -- while most people on the street of USA--, need to cover or protect-- from the rays of the sun or cold--, but not to use un-necessarily. for example-- in the waking hours around the house or sleeping. Actually the healthy non tight clothing mode is most healthy and reduces blood presasure ands diabetic numbers..exercising helps also..

In summary, if you do not need them -- clothes -- why wear them.. It is like keeping a car motor running when in the garage..

Actually, the beautiful peace I feel in-the-natural tells me that I made a wise decision to be buff around the house.. However putting on clothes makes mre feel restrained.. Our body is a temple of the holy spirit, why hide it?

 
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Mr. Typo
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Re: code of christian naturism

September 22 2006, 4:07 PM 

Amen hallelujah to that! Like keeping the car running while not using it, good stuff! Maybe, Greg.

 
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viking
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amen, amen, amen

September 22 2006, 10:11 PM 

Why keep car running when not necessary...

our body was built to operate freely not be damed up with tuight belts, etc...

 
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Mr. Typo
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Tight belt lament

September 23 2006, 3:45 PM 

Indeed, whenever I am nude, there is that impression of a tight belt around my waist. Certainly not good for proper circulation! Maybe, Greg.

 
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Re: Tight belt lament

September 23 2006, 7:06 PM 

I don't understand, Greg. When I'm nude--and I think of it--I relish the sensation of NO belt! The only place I like to see tight belts is in automobile engines.

 
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Mr. Typo
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Re: Tight belt lament

September 23 2006, 7:30 PM 

Read what I said again, I was 'lamenting' the mark that a tight belt leaves on the skin. And it is right under my spare tire! Maybe, Greg.

 
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Re: Tight belt lament

September 24 2006, 2:19 PM 

Oh. I thought you meant that you still felt like there was a tight belt around your waist, as in "I had the impression of a tight belt..." Isn't the English language fun? lol

 
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Dunlap disease?

September 24 2006, 5:46 PM 

Are we talking about the Dunlap disease??

Boyd Allen
"May the Lord protect our nudity from the sight of those who will not benefit, and may he allow us to be seen by those who will."



 
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Mr. Typo
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Re: Dunlap disease?

September 24 2006, 8:27 PM 

Maybe, never heard of that! Also, I can see where my socks have been as well! Maybe, Greg.

 
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Re: Dunlap disease?

September 25 2006, 12:50 PM 

As in, "His belly done laps over his belt." :D No, I've never suffered from that. Quite the opposite, in fact; a lot of people try to get me to eat more. Can't take any credit for it, just the way my Father made me.

But I'd better not say any more before someone belts me one. lol

 
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viking
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the d ---- disease.......... does bible offer advice onm what food to eat?

September 25 2006, 5:59 PM 

My problem is too much around the equator... When you weigh 250+ pounds it just is a matter of carrying it.. My body type is against me! even several times a week exercising on the new stepper does not help.... except with better breathing.......

You will love this one... One person at the exercise plex asked that the television set above the machines be tuned to --- the food channel...

I throw this one out for all of you. Does
the bible suggest what food to eat -- or refrain from eating... to maintain our health......
I attended classes at one church which suggested that it was the food thjat kept the old testament characters living 900 years -- and thew eating of meat caused thef life span to shorten...

 
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Re: the d ---- disease.......... does bible offer advice onm what food to eat?

September 25 2006, 8:57 PM 

Was that a Seventh Day Adventist class, viking? They tend to go overboard on their food prohibitions, or used to decades ago.

As a matter of fact, the Bible does say a few things about foods to eat. There are the kosher laws in the Old Testament, and Paul at several points warns against overindulgence of our bodies. (It's an open question whether Jesus, or the Holy Spirit in Peter's vision of the sheet full of animals, intended to revoke or loosen the kosher laws. I tend to believe He loosened them, but others I respect see it differently.)

 
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viking
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dunlap disease

September 25 2006, 10:37 PM 

When nude I still wear sox because the foot doctor is concerned that I as a borderline diabetic might get dirt from the floor... thusy statement about the ends of our body -- top and base -- correct..

 
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viking
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are we playing with words here?

September 25 2006, 5:46 PM 

What is dunlap disease?.. my dad's attorney had this name..

 
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Jon-Marc
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Re: are we playing with words here?

September 28 2006, 2:36 PM 

Dunlap disease is a joke. It means the stomach has done lapped over the belt. One of my daughters is married to a guy named Dunlap.

 
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viking
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tight belt lament

September 25 2006, 5:43 PM 

I have the same problem.. even worse... I feel like I am putting on a straight jacket!

 
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