Did you see the newspaper article about Natura with my picture and me being interviewed? I spoke with Bill Martin a short while ago and was told they're still going ahead with the project here in Hudson. I was under the impression that he sold the property and was trying elsewhere because of great conflict with neighbors. However, I'm used to being wrong; I do it a lot. LOL!
Where can I read this newspaper articolo? What journal?
I would love to bee apart of the project. My daughter lives in Holiday, I will be visiting her for the holiday season. Living naked has been my dream of lifetime. We hear that natura is a dead project a man of Thomas Karl bought all of the land. We understood Thomas, Karl is to build a textil houses in the propertys.
Since the newspaper article is 2 years old, I can't find it online. I did find one where some "Christians" were criticizing Natura, me, and others involved in Natura at that time. They called me a "so-called Christian", and called us other names I don't care to repeat. I replied and called them "hypocritical, judgmental Pharisees" and told them what social nudity is really about. I'm sure I wasted my time. You can't change some people's minds even with facts.
In the bright light of truth, some day, may be sooner than later,
the body as Jesus is in now, will be revealed fully,
and in open vision, we will see the Christ, crucified
as Paul talked about clearly, naked, unclothed, and
unashamed, that is right, which most Christians miss
the main point of Christ's own acceptance of the body
as made greater than any wisdom man could come up with,
made very Good, for a purpose not yet understood.
My website addresses many points, about the acceptable
body made beautiful and pure....which the world hates.
After the way Bill Martin treated your friend Dan Bellows, Martin's former CEO, one would think that you, Jon-Marc would not want to talk to him at all. Why are people so blind to this man's treatment of people and his neighbors? Please be very wary of getting involved with this man. I am sure Boyd could tell you why.
PS - the project is going nowhere fast and no matter what Martin is telling people, his attempt to re-organize to purchase the Fairwinds Naturist Park, it is up for a vote to accept a plan to sell as required by the Federal Judge of the Bankruptcy Court in Tampa Florida. The proposed plan indicates that the creditors will be paid, including all the attorney fees that Martin hasn't paid, and any profits would go to the Cancer Society. Bill Martin spoke to the court stating that the profits should go to a Quaker Naturist Organization. I only know of one - his quaker naturist"organization". So rather than wish that any profits go to a functioning charitable organization that actually helps ailing people, he wants the profits to go to his organization that is very disorganized and that has not helped people, but has actually hurt people and cost people thousands of dollars. Some people have had to put out hundreds of thousands of dollars because of the way Martin has handled his business practices. Christian? People should be very wary! Please be careful and we wish the best to all of you.
I was glad to see your post on NaturistChristians website, where you indicated that you wish he would not call you. Please be very careful and steer clear of this man. That goes for all of you wonderful people who post here. One can enjoy being naked with allowing their mind and their pocket/purse to be fleeced.
Jon-Marc, after all the years that you were posting on Bill Martin's Naturist-Christian website, he has denied you a membership to post there. He did so because you stated the truth about how he treated one of his former CEO's, namely Dan Bellows, that you knew well. I give you credit for speaking the truth about what you know. He also has denied Rocco access to posting because Rocco wanted the folks there to know the truth. (Jon-Marc and Rocco are previous Board Members on Bill Martin's board of directors). This is Bill Martin's way of hiding what he is doing from the people that he has deceived for so long.
It is just sad that as Christians, the moderators of that website would deny you access when they know that you are a good Christian man, unlike the very deceitful Bill Martin. Why can't they see what he is doing. It may not matter soon anyway, because he included the website in his bankruptcy where it looks like he will lose everything. He filed for the bankruptcy and his own business practices have come to light in the Federal Court system.
I wish you the best of luck and I am glad that you have other Christian Naturist places to converse with decent people. Take Care and I hope the others there, that seem to believe everything Martin says, will see the light.
The project in South Carolina as we were wanting never made it there. We pulled out due to unforeseen circumstances which I cannot elaborate here.
My wife and I are no longer a part of that project, and the location has changed. I am pleased that you are interested in it, but there was not enough interest here to go forward with it, at least, not enough for that size of the project. It became way larger than the group who was to support it had wanted it. We knew the area would not support that large of a resort.
I understand that Bill Martin is still pursuing that goal, and I wish him the very best and that he will succeed. He is really wanting it to go through. I just question his locations and the size of his goals. Otherwise, if he can do it, then who am I to argue otherwise?
Since then, my family and I have moved to Virginia to a new job and home. We will continue our efforts here with a Christian Nudist Convocation (CNC) which has proven successful and we are adding a third location this year in Texas!
Please pray for that success so it will spread worldwide eventually. It is not easy doing what we are doing here, but with the support of the team, we can spread this all over the globe.
England already has their version of it, at least this past year. I would love to connect with them so we can keep each other up in support.
But feel free to continue coming to this board and posting. We need worldwide use here. We used to get Australia here on occasion, but people move and change over time.
Blessing to you and your country. Are you still in Italy or are you in the US now?
Boyd "Live Nude and Prosper" Allen
"May the Lord protect our nudity from the sight of those who will not benefit, and may he allow us to be seen by those who will."
The cause of naturism is too big to get our arms around. We MUST pick a facet of it, perhaps two facets of it to which our abilities and interest incline us.
I applaud you for choosing CNC and BACN for your areas of focus.
If the developers you mention someday build a mega-resort in South Carolina, of course I would wish them well.
I am a long drive from the nearest naturist park and I am not alone. Many naturists simply don't find it convenient nor affordable to go to a naturist park with any meaningful degree of frequency.
For most of us the answer to our plea for more time in the nude will likely begin right in our own back yard and hopefully in our neighborhood.
In recent years, naturists in New Jersey and the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC, have each rented a health club once a month for their members and guests to enjoy.
Non-landed clubs are invaluable for providing a social outlet for naturist fellowship. Members blessed with private back yards can vastly increase for everyone else the opportunities for social nudity.
I hope that we can do as our friends in NJ and DC are doing and find business owners who support our cause by renting space to us at designated times.
Naturism may begin as simply as two clothed friends sharing a meal at a restaurant and discussing naturism. I hope that it can grow far beyond that, but the Bible admonishes us not to despise small beginnings.
"For most of us the answer to our plea for more time in the nude will likely begin right in our own back yard and hopefully in our neighborhood."
I feel that that's the answer, Ramblinman (and you others too). A network of naturist friends, many with Christian or at least "spiritual" leanings, is beginning to develop around me; one of them suggested meeting to meditate in the nude, and I'm trying to find out which of my other naturist friends is interested. Didn't the Christian church begin in houses?
We ask that you all be very wary of getting involed with this project. Numerous people have been terribly hurt by the business practices of Bill Martin, including former CEO's and board members of Natura Fellowship. A previous CEO of Natura Fellowship Inc. has come out on his NaturistChristians website to tell the truth about what Bill Martin has done to people. Bill Martin has removed the majority of his posts. True colors are showing now. Martin has actually posted previous letters he sent to the resident of a park in which he is involved in a bankruptcy suit, saying that he was going to charge people $900.00 to $1,500.00 to live the park where those people own property. Martin has not paid one cent for the park and he wants to charge them. A Pasco County Florida judge ruled that Martin did not have the authority to charge the residents. It appears that his mindset is "What is yours is mine". He is provding libelous claims that people at the park are involved with the KKK. This is just not so.
He has hurt so many people in the Hudson Florida area. He has continually harrassed a 90 year old woman because he felt he should be able to tresspass over her property when he has another way into his property. Then he tried to deny access to another neighbor to their property through his property because their easement was cut off and the usual way they used to acces their property was with the consent of the 90 year old woman.
There is much more to know and the former CEO tried to tell the people of the NC website, but many are blinded by the Martin rhetoric.
Please, please, be very careful and learn more about this man's business practices before you get involved and provide funds.
If people would like to see evidence of what Bill Martin has done and is doing, please go to google group billyville. He is now saying awful things on NaturistChristians website about everyone that has a dissenting view of his actions, even people that have backed him for many years, ie Jon-Marc.
