Which makes us wonder more and more about the "Great
British Bomb Plot". What really was going on?

The question seems to have occurred to Craig Murray,
former British ambassador to the gentle republic of
Uzbekistan, which has acquired an unpleasant reputation
for cooking suspects in vats of boiling liquid (water or
oil...we are not quite sure which). Murray brings his
close acquaintance with the fine arts of coercion to
bear on the subject...

"None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None
had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have
passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport
Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for
quite some time.

"In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in
many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to
convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals
intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever
rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms.

"What is more, many of those arrested had been under
surveillance for over a year - like thousands of other
British Muslims. And not just Muslims. Like me. Nothing
from that surveillance had indicated the need for early
arrests.

"Then an interrogation in Pakistan revealed the details
of this amazing plot to blow up multiple planes - which,
rather extraordinarily, had not turned up in a year of
surveillance. Of course, the interrogators of the
Pakistani dictator have their ways of making people sing
like canaries. As I witnessed in Uzbekistan, you can get
the most extraordinary information this way.

"Trouble is it always tends to give the interrogators
all they might want, and more, in a desperate effort to
stop or avert torture. What it doesn't give is the
truth.

"The gentleman being 'interrogated' had fled the UK
after being wanted for questioning over the murder of
his uncle some years ago. That might be felt to cast
some doubt on his reliability...

"We then have the extraordinary question of Bush and
Blair discussing the possible arrests over the weekend
[of Aug 12/13]. Why? I think the answer to that is
plain. Both in desperate domestic political trouble,
they longed for 'Another 9/11'. The intelligence from
Pakistan, however dodgy, gave them a new 9/11 they could
sell to the media. The media has bought, wholesale, all
the rubbish they have been shovelled.

"We then have the appalling political propaganda of John
Reid, Home Secretary, making a speech warning us all of
the dreadful evil threatening us and complaining that
'Some people don't get' the need to abandon all our
traditional liberties. He then went on, according to his
own propaganda machine, to stay up all night and
minutely direct the arrests.

"There could be no clearer evidence that our Police are
now just a political tool. Like all the best nasty
regimes, the knock on the door came in the middle of the
night, at 2.30am. Those arrested included a mother with
a six week old baby...

"We will now never know if any of those arrested would
have gone on to make a bomb or buy a plane ticket. In
all of this, the one thing of which I am certain is that
the timing is deeply political. This is more propaganda
than plot. Of the over one thousand British Muslims
arrested under anti-terrorist legislation, only twelve
per cent are ever charged with anything. That is simply
harassment of Muslims on an appalling scale. Of those
charged, 80% are acquitted. Most of the very few - just
over two per cent of arrests - who are convicted, are
not convicted of anything to do terrorism, but of some
minor offence the Police happened upon while trawling
through the wreck of the lives they had shattered.

"Be sceptical," Murray concludes. "Be very, very
sceptical."

Liquid Bombers Prove:
'They Hate Our Freedoms!'
By Edgar J. Steele
8-19-6


Muslims were planning to blow up a bunch of jetliners enroute from London to America - or so say George Bush and Tony Blair.

Muslims without tickets.

Muslims without passports.

Muslims without bombs.

Muslims without a clue ... and they aren't the only ones, it turns out. Without a clue, that is.

What kind of bombs? TATP bombs, short for triacetone triperoxide. What's more, Bush and Blair told us that Muslims favor the TATP bomb, mixed on the spot with separate liquids. With that lie, both Bush and Blair foreclosed any possibility that the Muslims involved actually were guilty. With that lie, both Bush and Blair disclosed themselves for the treasonous, lying criminals that they are. Why? Glad you asked.

To Build the Impossible Bomb

You see ... it can't be done. It quite simply cannot be done. Not in any airplane toilet. Not with any resources that might be available aboard any airplane other than Tom Swift's Flying Lab. Not with the time afforded by a Trans-Atlantic flight. And certainly - not by anybody without chemistry lab training and experience - not under the circumstances claimed, anyway.

If Muslims favor TATP bombs - and there is evidence to support the claim that Muslims use TATP bombs - then Muslims who might do so know full well the limitations and hazards inherent to such an explosive. No Muslim in his right mind would attempt what has been claimed, because he would know it can't be done - and, believe me, doing it under any circumstances would require a Muslim in his right mind. At best, the guy simply would kill himself, and do little damage to the plane's toilet. Regardless, nobody would be allowed the opportunity to spend hours in the toilet ... not aboard a jetliner. In a moment, I will prove to you why TATP simply cannot be made aboard jetliners, but first, please be really clear about the significance of that fact: that it conclusively proves Bush and Blair to be lying weasels. Not just dumb. Not just stupid. Lying, treasonous, unforgivable, murdering bastards.

TATP or Not TATP? - That is the Question

A friend with a doctorate in chemistry sent me the following:

"According to the official government story, TATP (triacetone triperoxide) was the explosive these conspirators were planning to manufacture aboard the airliners.

"This story is not plausible for a number of reasons, but let's take a quick look at just enough of the science so as not to provide anybody with a guide to making an actual bomb: TATP is made from hydrogen peroxide solution, acetone and sulfuric acid. The reaction can be carried out with just about any concentration, but is best done with concentrated solutions of both peroxide and acetone.

"The peroxide and acetone can be pre-mixed, but the acid must be added, a drop at a time, to the solution, all the while continuously stirring it and keeping it continuously chilled. This step of the process will take several hours, during which the fumes given off will be substantial and quite overpowering, thus a lab-quality air evacuation system is required. (ES: right here, the whole idea of a TATP bomb becomes ludicrous. Difficult in a lab, but impossible in an airplane due to the environment - the toilet - and the time requirement.)

"One then must let the resulting solution stand for an extended period at temperatures above the freezing point, but definitely below 10 Celsius (50 Fahrenheit). Above 10 Celsius, the TATP does not form; instead, diperoxide forms, which is so unstable it cannot be worked with. The time required for the reaction to go to completion is at least 24 hours and often several days.

"Once the TATP forms, it crystallizes as snowflakes from the solution and must be harvested by filtration and the liquid discarded. The TATP then is dried and carefully stored until needed. It must be stored below 10 Celsius or it converts spontaneously to the unstable diperoxide.

"There is neither the time, the workspace nor the other materials required to make TATP on an airliner. The time required, the temperatures required, the workspace required and the need to dry the chemical prior to use preclude this story being reasonable. This chemical process is much more sensitive than making, for example, nitroglycerin."

The technically proficient reading this will recognize that a necessary step has been omitted and some others have been altered in critical ways. None of these purposeful camouflages alter the ingredients or the time, care and equipment required. Nor will I describe how TATP can be fabricated beforehand and then detonated aboard an airliner in flight. After all, though we want to demonstrate the impossibility of what has been claimed, we don't want anybody actually trying this at home - and there really are some genuine whack jobs out there. After all, we elect some of them to public office.

An excellent (and humorous) on-line discussion by British writer Thomas Greene, also as to why TATP simply cannot be made aboard a plane: "Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?" Mr. Greene agrees with my friend, the PhD in chemistry, and concludes his description of the process of creating TATP with: "So the fabled binary liquid explosive - that is, the sudden mixing of hydrogen peroxide and acetone with sulfuric acid to create a plane-killing explosion, is out of the question."

So it's impossible to make TATP as claimed, yet still they confiscate liquids from us, including sodas and baby formula, not to mention toothpaste and, even, lipsticks? Even if possible to make TATP as claimed, the individual smells of peroxide, acetone and sulfuric acid are obvious enough to preclude people having to be shaken down and terrorized by the airport Gestapo in this fashion. You have to wonder: Just exactly what is going on?