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Fear of doctors

July 5 2007 at 2:39 PM
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I was wondering ,since the majority of those picked up in this latest wave of Car bombing attempts were doctors is there any talk in Britain,Scotland or any where else of doing some in depth background checks on Middle Eastern/Asian Doctors?

I ask as if one had a network of doctors,one of whom is given access to work with toxins, they could be injecting the populace with some toxic chemical or biologic agent that could be spread from person to person over time,this would have a big impact,more so over time than a propane car bomb.
Who would suspect the doctors of being the root cause?

I have heard that a couple of these doctors spoke openly of supporting Jihadist activities,this should have been a flag.
Then again how many so called witnesses spoke of what these people had to say or what they thought prior to them getting caught?

 
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July 5 2007, 3:12 PM 

Jim
They work in my local hospital which is the world reknown Addenbrookes Hospital, Cambridge. U.K where I attend for treatment every few months.

I believe the Authorities are now well ahead with their investigations, although I believe they have been on top of their game watching these R/soles for some time.

I feel sure that they will al be rounded up before to long. They seem to have been a real bunch of wallies anyway. They can give you an aspro or stick a band aid on your fingure okay but anything else seem to be the Walter Mitty class.

 
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July 5 2007, 9:20 PM 

Here ya go Jim:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6267998.stm



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July 5 2007, 9:41 PM 

And this from today:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=FBL3XV5GGXISRQFIQMFSFFWAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror505.xml

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July 6 2007, 7:43 AM 

Cambridge Link To Failed Terror Attacks


By Sky News SkyNews - Thursday, July 5 03:45 pm

Four of the suspects in the failed London and Glasgow bomb attacks had links with the city of Cambridge, according to reports.




One, Dr Mohammed Asha, worked at Addenbrooke's Hospital, while Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla lived in the town's Chesterton Road.

Dr Kafeel Ahmed, 27, who suffered 90 percent burns in the Glasgow airport incident, is believed to have studied for a PhD at the former Anglia Polytechnic University.

His brother Dr Sabeel Ahmed, 26, who was arrested in Liverpool, is thought to have spent time in Cambridge in 2005.

Earlier Scotland Yard refused to comment on a CNN report that police found a suicide note written by one of the two airport bombers.

A Met Police spokesman said it could comment on anything that had been recovered as part of the investigation.

Seven men and one woman, all with links to the NHS, are being held after the three attempted bombings last weekend.

Two car bombs were found and defused in central London on Friday, the day before a flaming Jeep was driven into the terminal building at Glasgow aiport.

The terror threat has been downgraded from critical to severe, meaning another attack is likely, but not imminent.

Seven of the supects were arrested in Britain. The eighth, Indian doctor Muhammad Haneef, 27, was detained at Brisbane airport.

A British detective has flown out to Australia to interview him.

The mothers of Haneef and Sabeel Ahmed have both claimed their sons are innocent.

Speaking at her home in Bangalore, India, Zakia Ahmed, who is also a doctor, said: "Both these boys are just caught in between."

She confirmed Haneef and her son were cousins and had studied at the same medical college in Bangalore.

Officials in Australia, where Haneef worked at a hospital on Queensland's Gold Coast, say he had a one-way ticket to India at the time of his arrest.

His wife has said he was flying home to see their newly-born daughter.

:: Read Our Foreign Affairs Editor Tim Marshall's blog on the art of counter intelligence.




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July 6 2007, 9:52 PM 

Spot,

The Mrs & I popped round to my parents last night and while watching the Cambridge connection story on the news. It occurred to me that a KGB spy (Philby, Blunt etc.) also met up at Cambridge. Is there something about the place? Does Oxford send down this many traitors?

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July 7 2007, 9:23 AM 


Jack
About 70% of the University populace was in favour of the Socialist party, and in the 1920/1980 period considered the Russian flavour of communism.

 
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July 7 2007, 9:26 AM 

Should have said Cambridge is the spy seeking/training establishment for the UK spooks.

 
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July 8 2007, 2:41 AM 

I hope more of these "doctors" who betray the trust of the Hippocratic Oath end up in the burns unit like this one (just call him Tam o' Shanter).

Enough is enough. Amyone who has entered the UK illegally should be thrown out. This includes "asylum seekers" most of whom have broken the international laws regarding this status. No more should we accept the argument that they will be imprisoned, killed or lose their Air Miles if returned. They should have obeyed the laws. In most cases, these arguments are lies and they have intenionally chosen Britain (and the Republic of Ireland, I believe) as their destination.

I was speaking to a police friend tonight who has become radicalised in his thinking in the last couple of years whilst working in an area with a high immigrant population. Once an "open minded" fairly liberal type of constable out to serve his community, he has become bitter over the uneven treatment of immigrant and Scottish law-breakers. He has got to know the customary lawyers and they can smugly predict community service for the immigrant criminals whilst the home-grown criminals will be locked up. He feels that this is not the law that he signed up to protect.

He is also aggrieved that there are all sorts of police associations for poofs, blacks, Asians etc. whilst knowing that he would probably lose his job if he attempted to start a white police officers association (an argument that I believe I put forward myself some time ago).

An interesting point that he made was that an immigrant moving into a flat in Glasgow gets the full bifta, refrigerator, cooker, carpets, TV etc. etc. (ie better than many of of our pensioners who have paid their taxes and in some cases fought for us). If he leaves and another immigrant comes in, be it only after a few weeks, he receives NEW gear as they should not receive anything second-hand! There is a handy wee money earner there which the under-staffed police are looking into.

I know this post is a wee bit of a non-sequeter but I am severely pissed off and at this moment, compared to me, the BNP are a bunch of liberal do-gooders!
The joys of OVD!

 
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July 8 2007, 10:04 AM 

Acorn,

I would say your's and your Police friends views are that of most of the UK at thge moment. The more this Country tries to make us Polictialy(s??) correct the more it turns us in to people we don't want to be "Racist" But when minorities are taking the piss with our systems we have to do somthing, even if it is just whinging to each other !!


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July 22 2007, 2:17 PM 

Preach in English, Muslim peer tells imams

By Tom Harper, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 11:57pm BST 21/07/2007

Mosques should be banned from recruiting foreign preachers unless they speak excellent English, according to a senior Muslim politician.


Inayat Bunglawala called the plan 'completely unworkable'

In an attempt to tackle Islamic extremism, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham called for imams from overseas who apply to preach in Britain to undergo strict language and "Britishness" tests in their countries of origin. Those who refused would be denied entry to the UK.

The peer also called for non-English speaking imams already in Britain to be prevented from preaching until they master the language. Lord Ahmed, a member of Tony Blair's Preventing Extremism Taskforce, said: "We should not allow imams to enter the country who do not speak English and who do not understand our modern way of life.

"They should be tested to a much higher standard on language and British culture before they leave Islamabad, Delhi and Casablanca, and if they refuse they should not be allowed in."

The proposal sparked a row among Muslim leaders. Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, called the plan "ludicrous and completely unworkable". He added: "The move to English needs to happen as an evolutionary process. Many elderly worshippers cannot understand English."

At present, imams enter Britain under a special visa scheme for religious ministers, and need only basic English. Most preach in Urdu, an Asian language which many young British Muslims do not understand. As a result, according to Lord Ahmed, youths are increasingly turning to "Middle Eastern political preachers" who address followers in English but twist the words of the Koran, sparking disillusionment and anger.

A survey of 300 mosques by the BBC this month revealed that only 6 per cent of imams in Britain preach in English, while only 8 per cent were born in the UK. Shortly before stepping down as prime minister, Tony Blair introduced a voluntary scheme for imams to receive training in British language and culture. However, Lord Ahmed believes that compulsory controls are needed to thwart youths such as Mukhtar Said Ibrahim, the leader of the failed 21/7 London bombings in 2005, and Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. It emerged during their trials that both had been brainwashed by imams at Feltham Young Offenders Institution.

Lord Ahmed said: "You can't be 'wishy-washy' and implement English lessons voluntarily. They must be compulsory, like in Germany where all sermons have to be delivered in German."

Lord Ahmed, 50, who became Britain's first Muslim peer in 1998, said that the training could be funded by the Muslim community. He said: "Mosque committees have plenty of money - cost is not a problem. There is a willingness to do this amongst British Muslims. It is not a radical proposition to 95 per cent of the community, but certain self-interested parties, who also exclude women and children from mosques, portray it as a burden because their membership cannot speak English."

The Home Office tried to introduce a "Britishness" test for foreign-born imams in 2005 but scrapped it after protests from parts of the Muslim community.

Lord Ahmed spoke out after a meeting with Muhammed Abdul-Bari, the head of the Muslim Council of Britain. Mr Bari gave evidence this month to Lord Ahmed and other Muslim politicians as part of the All Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Tackling Extremism. Mr Bari said he did not recognise the problem of non-English speaking imams. He defended all-male mosques, and said the Government "could not ignore" the impact that its foreign policy had on creating home-grown terrorists.

Khalid Mahmood, the Muslim Labour MP who is the chairman of the inquiry, said that he was "deeply disappointed" with Mr Bari's comments and claimed the MCB was "hindering the fight against terrorism.

"Mr Bari's stance in blaming -foreign policy and domestic -conditions simply antagonises the situation. We are trying to move -forward and get a solution to this issue, while he is reverting to the same tired, old arguments," he said.

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