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July 10 2007 at 8:13 AM
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British juror arrested after listening to music under hijab

AFP - Monday, July 9 06:47 pm
LONDON (AFP) - A female Muslim juror has been arrested in Britain after allegedly listening to an MP3 player under her hijab headscarf during a murder trial, police said Monday.

The woman in her early 20s was spotted by a fellow juror listening to music as she was meant to be helping try the case of a pensioner accused of bludgeoning his wife to death after 50 years of marriage.

She could now be charged with contempt of court and, if convicted, may be punished with an indefinite jail sentence and an unlimited fine.
Details emerged after the defendant was convicted and Judge Roger Chapple lifted a reporting restriction which prevented previous publication of the details for fear of disrupting proceedings.

The woman had repeatedly arrived late for hearings at Blackfriars Crown Court, central London, and prosecuting lawyer Peter Clarke asked for her to be dismissed.

The judge initially refused, saying it was not necessary, but a day later, he received a note from another juror suggesting that the woman may have been listening to music during the defendant's evidence.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said that police were called by a judge hearing a case at Blackfriars "regarding the inappropriate actions of a juror."

"A woman was arrested for contempt of court on the direction of the judge," he added. "Following the conclusion of the trial, the judge has requested that the matter be investigated."

Lawyer Benn Maguire, a member of the team prosecuting the murder case, said: "It is unique for all those who are connected with this court to experience a situation where the juror is suspected of listening to a MP3 player under her Islamic headgear."
He added that he expected the woman would go to prison if she was charged and found guilty of contempt.


    
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re: listening to music under hijab

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July 10 2007, 5:31 PM 

She is ethnic so she she will only get a slap on the wrist.

Here we see another reason for making such headcoverings illegal. We have already seen a terrorist attempting escale dressed as a woman in the black-bag's-black-bag-kit.
What does a policeman say when he wants to ID one of these people? If he asks to see their face, merry-hell will be played. Time to stop it all. I have the container ships waiting....

 
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July 11 2007, 7:26 AM 

Time to stop it all. I have the container ships waiting....


Wow! Thats a luxury way to travel. We used Returning Banana Boats.

 
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July 11 2007, 11:01 AM 

Acorn mate, I 100% agree with your sentiments..

 
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July 11 2007, 1:58 PM 

I believe it is time for this country to establish a foreign legion to help fight the type of wars the west finds it self in today, made up of all the 18/35 year old foreign nationals wanting to claim citizenship in this country.

Those whom may choose not to participate can find another country to find their claim of safety, i.e. France Belgium, Holland, Germany, to name a few, but as you can see they would have plenty of choice.

Also the privilege of once obtaining the right to live here does not come with the rights to bring in their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, uncles, cousins, or uncle tom cobley an all, as the situation is today, there is no more room at the INN.

I look forward to reading the replies. Spot.

 
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July 11 2007, 5:53 PM 

Who do you blame?

The immigrants...or the system which allows them to enter so freely and without checking their backgrounds?

I have no problem with immigrants - you get chancers and wasters in every country and at every facet and class of society. Added to which we need them for our economy, just like we have for centuries - remember the labour pool which needed to be filled after the 2nd World War?

What I do object to, and this is from a perspective of maintaining and protecting the realm (the first order of business for any gov't, regardless of political hue), is the complete lack of any checks on certain individuals (i.e. those who were allowed to travel freely outside the country, having once established a base here - regardless of how permanent or temporary) leaving the country (to undertake Jihadi training/organisation) and only checking them when they return.

This will have to change if we are to get a grip on who these individuals are and how (and where) they are spending their time...and with whom?

Remember lads, it's always easy to blame the 'lowest rung' of society for our nations ills - when in truth the vast number of them genuinely come here for a better life than the one they have - and they are prepared to do the jobs which you and I wouldn't, certainly not for the pay and conditions under which these jobs are done!

The truth is that (using the bad-apple/barrel analogy) that there will always be a strident minority who either think that they want/can get a cushy life leeching off the backs of Joe Soap's hard work and take advantage of our social security/NHS etc. examples being the Nigerian rent and benefits scandal which happened a few years back. That doesn't mean we paint ALL Nigerians (some of whom are doctors, engineers etc.) with the same brush.

Then there are those who come here with deliberately evil intent - a la the ones of Middle Eastern extraction (NHS-wallahs to a man, by the looks) who attempted to bomb London and Glasgow airport recently. And frankly, if they're all as incompetent as this lot, and leave the Motherlode of exploitable (by forensics and MI5/MI6 et al) and intact evidence post the events, then I can hack that too.

In an ideal world, it would happen: but then again, as Voltaire postulated, we don't live in an ideal world, do we?

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July 11 2007, 9:59 PM 

Spot, I would agree with all immigrants being required to do military service although in a front line Pioneer Corps. One does not want infantry trained terrorists. As for auts, uncles, brides etc, that should be a no-no.

As for immigration as a whole, no swinging dick (or the female version) should be allowed in without knowledge of their past. Too many criminals are coming in and the police have no knowledge as to who are muggers, paedophiles, burglars etc. Illegals should be thrown out with no recourse to law. Asylum seekers who have not adhered to the rules (ie not stopping at the first country or unable to prove that they are innocents under threat) should be immediately thrown out. Immigrants breaking our laws should be thrown out. Those who choose not to become citizens should still be required to pass an English test within two years or (you have guesed it already). All immigrants should be required to supply DNA and fingerprints.

"Remember lads, it's always easy to blame the 'lowest rung' of society for our nations ills - when in truth the vast number of them genuinely come here for a better life than the one they have - and they are prepared to do the jobs which you and I wouldn't, certainly not for the pay and conditions under which these jobs are done!"

There is both truth and fallacy here. Most do come for a better life but just how many of them are willing to play by OUR rules? Although some are willing to do the work not wanted by our natives others are willing to do work WANTED by our natives for a lower price. Besides some of these unwanted jobs could be performed by the professional scroungers and even criminals.
Basically, I am saying put the nation and nationals first and then look after the others.

 
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July 12 2007, 2:55 PM 

I have no problem with immigrants who CONTRIBUTE to society and INTEGRATE in the community.

I do have a major problem with the twats that come here with the sole purpose of milking the system and living off benefits - especially when there are many ex forces guys who are living on the streets because they've had little or no support from the government/MOD.

 
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Immigration - Panorama tonight, 20.30 hrs BBC!

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July 23 2007, 6:00 PM 

You might want to watch this lads:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6908390.stm



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Re: Immigration - Panorama tonight, 20.30 hrs BBC!

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July 24 2007, 5:40 PM 

Yup, that's my home town! The Albanians, Kosovars and Romanians have pushed out all the Somalis and Kurds and have been pretty violent with it. My other half is a teacher and she has sometimes as many as 10% of her class as non-English speakers. Instead of putting these kids in a separate class where they can learn English and thus leave school with a key skill to help them function in our society, the Local Education Authority insists that they be treated no different than all the other kids kids. Ensuring therefore, that they'll sit dumbly through all their lessons and leaving without having learned a thing.

The large influx has put an enormous strain on other resources too. Mostly housing, but it's becoming clear that the council just cannot cope with the scale of the problem.

Jack

 
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July 25 2007, 4:25 PM 

Apropos my comment in my posting of 11th July above!

The Gov't's going to reinstate exit controls - bizarrely abandoned 10 years ago - they could be reading these very boards!


Brown creates united force to police borders

By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
Last Updated: 2:40pm BST 25/07/2007

A single UK border police force is to be created in a bid to thwart the terror threat.


Gordon Brown also said that he backed the controversial ID card scheme

Gordon Brown told MPs that a "highly visible" uniformed force would bring together immigration and Customs officers.

A unified border force has been a key demand of the Tories and was recommended by a Commons committee five years ago.

Mr Brown's move follows the recent convictions of several would-be suicide bombers which exposed the porous nature of the country's borders.

He also promised to improve the biometric detection of people when they enter and leave the country. Embarkation controls, abolished nearly 10 years ago, will be restored.

In his first statement on terrorism since taking over at No 10, Mr Brown set out a number of other measures designed to make the country more secure

# He said he wanted a longer time limit for holding suspected terrorists without charge. Options would include a 56-day ceiling with judicial and parliamentary safeguards or it might also be possible to use existing laws to hold suspects for an extra 30 days when a state of emergency has been declared.

# A high-level review will examine whether phone tap evidence should be used in court.

# Mr Brown also said the oversight of the intelligence agencies through the Intelligence and Security Committee would be more open.

His statement also emphasised the importance of winning ''hearts and minds'' in the Muslim community.

Mr Brown said there is a battle for ideas and values that has to be won. An extra £70 million of funding would be provided to help improve the ability of local communities to resist violent extremism.

Mr Brown said he would seek an "all-party consensus" on the way forward with counter-terrorist policy. The outcome of those discussions will frame new legislation planned for the autumn.

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July 26 2007, 12:52 AM 

The info in the last post (thanks Tam) on the face of it looks good. It is, in my opinion of little worth umless all talk of amnesty for illegals is quashed and we start throwing them out - fast. If Europe doesn't like it. tough. Oh! Let's throw some of the Russian chancers out whilst we are at it. There are probably more REAL criminals there than those who break our immigration laws purely down to our inefficiency/sloth.
My container ships are still tied up at the docks. Berezhovski, I have personally booked your cabin (I expect a fee of course).

 
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