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Gary GlitterAugust 20 2008 at 12:23 PM No score for this post | Lassen, trying to understand Jurisprudence (no login) |
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In the eyes of the law, he was found guilty, and has served his crime.
Do we have the right to decide what to do now?
While I am appalled and disguised at what he has done, do we have the right to hound him like the press are.
He will never be free now for the rest of his life. the press and others will follow him to the ends of the earth.
Would we do the same for a burglar, or a murderer.
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ferret (no login) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 20 2008, 1:15 PM |
How much effort did it require from him or his agents who help him spend his millions to seek out the age of consent in that girls country, they knew why he had travelled there.
His defence or part of it was that he assumed the age of consent was 16 years old has it is in the U.K.
If he requires younger female company then I believe S/Ireland age of consent is still 13 years old for both boys and girls.
If I am wrong on the Southern Ireland law maybe OC can correct it for me,.
OC I trust some of the young bloods on here will not be tapping your on front door for a cuppa and a rest.
Regards ferret
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 Old Comrade (Login S-OC) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 20 2008, 4:15 PM |
Hi Ferret.
In true Irish fashion the issue of consent in Ireland is confusing. For hetro-sexual couples it is 17 years. For Gay Men it is also 17 years.
For Lesbians it is 15 years and for oral sex it is 15 years. I think I have that correct but like you I am open to correction.
As for Glitter.............Shoot the Bastard.
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 'Tommy' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 20 2008, 6:40 PM |
We, as individuals, don't the 'right' to do anything, other than allow whatever restrictions apply to him and his 'condition' as a convicted child molester and paedophile take their course, if he ever steps foot back on British soil. Currently, he's fucked-off to Hong Kong as is refusing to come back to Britain.
Although whether the Chinese will allow him entry and or residence (or a tourist visa) is yet to be seen. They could allow him time spent there or may send him directly back on the first plane to the UK.
If he does come back to the UK, as I understand it, the authorities will arrest him as he de-buses the aircraft, take him to an anteroom and get him to sign the Sex Offenders Register there and then. Then they'll take his passport off him and try and to ensure he never leaves these shores again.
After that, he'll be monitored to some degree or other for the rest of his natural.
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Lassen (no login) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 20 2008, 10:48 PM |
To be honest, I don't know what the answer to this problem is.
I fail to see why they would arrest him, as far as I know he has not committed another offence here. Also how cold they force him to sign in? If he refuses to pick up the pen, then he refuses as simple as that. Not that having his signature would make the smallest of difference.
No doubt some media keen QC would claim harassment, victimisation blah blah blah.
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 'Tommy' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 21 2008, 12:36 AM |
He arrived at 11.00pm local time in Hong Kong and they have refused him entry.
19 other countries have said they'll do the same.
His options (given the current publicity surrounding his past 'celebrity') are dropping like flies and I reckon he'll have no option but to return to UK - unless Mogadishu or Afghanistan are feeling generous.
As for your comment above, Lass, there is no 'problem'. He's a returning known paedophile - doesn't matter where or when he committed the crimes; he'll have to sign the register or remain at 'Her Majesty's Pleasure' until he does. The arresting him part is just a formality prior to signing the register, as they can't (that I'm aware of) charge him with anything. But to be 'held' prior to signing, he either needs to present himself voluntarily, or be arrested.
If/when he returns to the UK, his life will be made a singing-dancing misery by the press - they won't have had as juicy a salacious story as this for years. I'm warning you now - the usual suspect tabloids (and the Express and Mail) are going to be even more insufferably crap and obnoxiously prurient than they usually are if/when he arrives back here.
He has two options - live with the pain or top himself. But those are the choices he made a long time ago. His call.
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Lassen (no login) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 21 2008, 1:13 AM |
Morning,
I don't think they could hold him at HM Pleasure Tommy. Unfortunately he has rights, the bloody EU saw to that. My understanding of English Law is, that you have to of committed an arrestable offence to be arrested. He was free to leave the UK and he did so. Returning to the UK does not mean we can arrest him for having committed an offence in another country. Unless an international arrest warrant or a deportation certificate had been issued with his name on it.
We ain't Guantanamo, so we would have to release him without charge eventually.
It's bloody farcical what's happening just now.
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 'Tommy' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 21 2008, 3:27 AM |
All they have to do is arrest "under the suspicion of..." whilst requiring him for questioning, get him to sign the register, then release him. Job done.
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Lassen (no login) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 21 2008, 10:14 AM |
Tommy me old China,
I'm afraid it wound not work. Any duty solicitor would have him released within minutes.
The Police can only hold someone for a limited time anyway before charges are produced. This time can be extend at several points, using Superintendents,Justice of the peace, or Magistrates.
If the Police were to even try that, they would of issued a warrant by now, and the he would of been arrested and then forcibly put on the plane while under arrest. If the report I heard last night on the radio was true, he is being shadowed by a British Bobby anyway. For reasons I do not understand.
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 ' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 21 2008, 4:01 PM |
Hey Lass,
Arrested or not, he'll be interviewed "voluntarily" by the police (currently 35 of them at LHR awaiting Glitter's return, although fuck knows why so many - probably expecting a scrum with the press) and "required" to sign the register - if he refuses (which I doubt he will, as he'll want this process over and done with soonest, but he still might), then he can be arrested.
The British Bobby shadowing him in Asia will be for simple confirmation of the fact that he's been put on a plane, which flight number and expected ETA in London (LHR/LGW) so he can call his colleagues in UK to let them know he's inbound. I doubt the copper's attempting to be keeni-meeni about his presence there - he'll be working with both the British Embassy and the Thai authorities.
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Acorn (Login Acorn15) | No commentNo score for this post | August 23 2008, 4:14 AM |
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 'Tommy' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | August 24 2008, 6:20 PM |
Apparently they've just introduced a new law in the UK.
As a result, it is now illegal to wear garments of clothing on a part of the body for which it was not designed.
Gary Glitter has already been found guilty under this new law, as he was caught wearing a tie on his cock.
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Jack (no login) | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | September 4 2008, 12:48 AM |
Nobody has seemed to mention this anywhere so far as I can tell, but have you noticed how after 2 years in a Vietnamese gaol, Gary Glitter is now looking like Ho Chi Minh?
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 'Tommy' (Login Tommy_01) Forum Owner | Re: Gary GlitterNo score for this post | September 4 2008, 9:36 AM |
Yes Jack, and I think it should be added to his charge sheet!  ______________________________________________
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