Radio interview with Russian nationalist Igor ArtemovMay 31 2012 at 2:15 PM
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Robert interviews Igor Artemov. Topics include:
- The truth about Putinexposing the myth that he is a Russian Nationalist;
- Recent Russian presidential election;
- The oligarchs and Putins relationship with them;
- Political persecution of Russian nationalists;
- Immigration and the globalist agenda.
Igor Artemov holds a PhD in history (1990, Institute of Oriental Studies in Moscow). He is the author of scientific articles about medieval Iran and Central Asia. He is one of the founders and chairman of Russian All-National Union (abbreviated RONS in Russian), a Russian national, Christian political and social movement, and also a state senator in the province of Vladimir (2001-2009), a writer and ideologist of Russian Renaissance, and the editor of the magazine The Third Rome. He is married with two sons and daughter.
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|June 1 2012, 6:23 PM |
Pretty shocking revelations by Mr Artemov that:
1) Russia is a police state with 3 million police service.
2) He is islamizing Russia by bringing in tens of thousands of immigrants from Central Asia and Caucasus estimated at 20 million people.
3) Crush all political dissent thta is not controlled and aligned with Kremlin interests.
4) State corruption and Putins alliance with the Oligarchs.
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|June 2 2012, 2:42 AM |
More lies from a phony "Russian nationalist". Nobody has even heard of this guy in Russia. You shouldn't believe what he says at face value. Putin is no tyrant, and unlike the US Russia is not a police state. There is more freedom of speech and press in Russia than anywhere in the West. The size of the police force is irrelevant, more important that unlike in the US, the Russian police doesn't taser its suspects, and acts within the legal framework. Even against the protestors the police is very careful not to overreact, and apply the sufficient amount of force. So as a result their haven't been any casualties among protestors, unlike the case in Western countries, where the police frequently overreacts, leading to casualties.
There are tons of Russian nationalists who conduct rallies and make political statements--ironically, I've never heard of this guy holding rallies or making speeches in Russia. The most well known of them are Demushkin, Belov (of the former Slavic Union), Tor, Krylov and a few others. They are now in the process of forming their own Russian nationalist political party, and plan to participate in local, regional, and federal elections, which would clearly not be allowed had Russia been a police state, as this crazy guy claims. The fact that this guy served as a senator in Vladimir regional legislature for almost a decade during Putin's reign, as listed in his biography, sort of disavows his main points about tyranny in Russia. Most likely, he is just trying to gain attention to his movement through this interview, which is completely unknown in Russia (except possibly in Vladimir).
Putin is certainly not a nationalist in the sense of supporting the creation of a Russian nation-state. He is a proponent of a Russian empire, not a Russian nation state. A Russian empire in the traditions of Moscovian prince and first Russian czar's Ivan the Great proclamation of the Muscovy as the 3rd Roman Empire, and in the legacy of the Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire, both of which were successful multi-ethnic empires and not nation-states. Artemyev can't have it both ways, he can't be for Russia as the 3rd Rome, as he claims in his biography and his magazine, and for Russia as a "modern democratic European nation state", as these two concepts are mutually exclusive.
And this is where the ethnic nationalists, disagree with Putin's policies. But creation of a Russian nation-state would weaken Russia immensely, and play into US's interests. It would weaken Russia, and lead to the separation of all regions, where ethnic Russians are not in majority (which includes the North Caucuses, Tatarstan, Bashkirya, Burtyatia, Kalmykya, and many others), and lead to new civil wars on our territory. So we don't need nationalists of this sort to be in power, especially those like this guy who advocate for a Western-style phony "democracy" and free-market economy, which has proven to be ineffective and obsolete in today's world. Russia, historically, was never a nation-state, but always an empire--there is remarkable continuity between Tsarist Russia, Communist Russia and modern Russia, and Putin is a firm believer of keeping it this way, and continuing to rule Russia in our imperial traditions.
As for the oligarchs. They always played a role in Russian affairs, from the boyars of the time of first tsar Ivan the Great, to the aristocracy of tsarist Russia, to the Politburo of Soviet Russia, and to the modern-day Russian oligarchs. However, Russia prospered, when the oligarchs were made subservient to the Russian ruler, and suffered when the oligarchs, themselves were in control. Whenever the oligarchs were in control, Russia was faced with problems, from the Time of Troubles (after the death of Ivan the Terrible) to the late Tsarist period, when the Tsar had largely become a figurehead, and the real power rested with the aristocrats, to the Interim Government of 1917, when the aristocrats gained power directly, to the late Soviet period, when the politburo oligarchs ruled Russia directly, to Yeltsin's time, when the modern day oligarchs ruled Russia directly. However, Russia prospered when oligarchs were kept in check by the ruler, from the days of Ivan the Great, who kept them in check, and Ivan the Terrible, who crushed them with an iron hand, when Russia grew and expanded greatly, to the time of Peter the Great and Catherine the Great, who kept the aristocrats in check, to Stalin, who crushed them with an iron hand, to Putin who keeps them in check. However, Russian history proves that it is better to keep the oligarchs in check than to crush them with an iron hand, as the experience of both Ivan the Terrible and Stalin proves that crushing them with an iron hand achieves remarkable short term growth and development, at the expense of the comeback of oligarchy rule after the death of Ivan the Terrible and Stalin. So basically Putin is following the optimal strategy viz-a-viz the oligarchy, showing them who is boss, but refraining from mass repression.
Immigration from Central Asia has not resulted in spread of radical Islam. There hasn't been a single terrorist act by immigrants from Central Asia. But Russia, under Putin, is moving to create the Eurasian Union, making the entire Central Asia a part of the new Russian empire--educating the people of Central Asia in their home countries as well as in Russia, and teaching them Russian language and values. And clearly the nationalists are pissed about that. But Central Asia has been a part of Russian empire for almost 200 years (why weren't these fools protesting when the Russian Tsars conquered Central Asia???), and getting control of the resources of Central Asia, both human resources and energy resources is an important part of Putin's campaign to turn Russia into a superpower. Central Asian immigrants are hard working and productive members of society. I bet this guy isn't an "ethnically pure" Russian either, because there isn't such a thing.
The link to his movement's site has been blocked by my anti-virus system, meaning that it is likely a phony site.
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|June 2 2012, 4:26 AM |
Russia for Russians: Slogan of fools
The new law about political parties, which decreases the registration limit to 500 people, is expected to come into effect by summer. However, there are too many of those who want to receive the official registration. Russia's Justice Ministry has applications pending from 70 associations that would like to become full-fledged parties.
The extensive list of those willing to struggle for power raises concerns with many. In addition to such "good old" organizations as the party of beer lovers, the party of love and the like, the list also contains ultra-right organizations.
Six of 70 parties that use the words "Russian" or "national" in their names intend to defend patriotic and even nationalist ideas. They are: the Party of the Revival of National and Social Justice in Russia, the Club of Friends of the Russian People, the National and Conservative Party of Russia, We the Russians, and the National and Democratic Party of Russia. Three other parties use the word "Motherland" in their names. Leftist parties come second after the nationalist associations.
The nationalist movement "The Russians" announced the intention to set up a political party on Monday. Dmitry Demushkin, the leader of the organization, said that the party would originally have about 20,000 members.
In case the amendments to the law about the registration of parties are approved, the minimum limit for the quantity of members would be decreased to 500 people. "We do not want to make the party of 500 people. We want to have a large and ambitious party. We want to submit approximately 20,000 questionnaires during the registration. We would thus show that we are not some sort of a dwarfish organization," Demushkin said.
The State Duma and the Federation Council are to consider the bill about the simplification of the registration of political parties before the end of March. Ultra-right associations may take part in the elections already this fall. It is worthy of note that Demushkin previously chaired the extremist and the currently banned organization the Slavic Union.
Such parties work under the slogan "Russia for Russians." Can they really struggle for power in Russia, which is a multi-national state? Will the appearance of radical parties lead to the collapse of the nation?
Leonid Polyakov, a scientist of politics, said that the parliamentary parties should include a whole package of special measures in the legislation. At the same time, the expert added, there is nothing surprising about such a change in Russia's political landscape.
"This is typical of the whole European continent. Moderate rightist parties in Europe can be successful just because they adopt certain slogans and programs from rightist radical organizations. We can observe the same trend in Russia too. One should not be surprised about it at all," Polyakov said in an interview with Pravda.Ru.
"Russia is a multi-national and multi-confessional country. This is a fragile matter. If this world is undermined, the country may collapse and serious conflicts may emerge, even a civil war is possible," the expert said.
"The existence of such parties can be dangerous, of course. However, this is what we pay for the radical democratization. One should be aware of the fact that if we want to hear all voices in our political spectrum, we should also listen to those in the right front," he added.
"The norms of the Constitution and the laws of the Russian Federation forbidding anything that incites international, racial, interconfessional and interethnic strife must be formulated clearly. The programs and charters of such parties must not contain the phrases that can trigger confrontation between various groups of the population in the country. These are mandatory procedures that must exclude conflicts in the society that may emerge just because such parties exist," the specialist concluded.
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