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  1. I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. View Thread - RGJesus on Nov 10, 2016, 5:02 AM
    1. Re: I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. - Michael on Nov 10, 2016, 6:26 AM
      1. Re: I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. - RGJesus on Nov 10, 2016, 7:05 AM
        1. Re: I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. - Michael on Nov 11, 2016, 3:10 AM
          1. Re: I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. - RGJesus on Nov 14, 2016, 10:56 AM
            1. Incarnation - Michael on Nov 15, 2016, 7:48 AM
              1. Re: Incarnation - RGJesus on Nov 15, 2016, 8:25 AM
                1. Re: Incarnation - Michael on Nov 15, 2016, 8:32 AM
                  1. Re: Incarnation - RGJesus on Nov 15, 2016, 9:05 AM
                    1. Re: Incarnation - Michael on Nov 16, 2016, 1:32 AM
                      1. human-divine nature of Jesus - RGJesus on Nov 17, 2016, 8:22 AM
                      2. Re: human-divine nature of Jesus - Michael on Nov 17, 2016, 10:35 AM
                      3. Possibility of Trinity being false - RGJesus on Nov 17, 2016, 1:34 PM
                      4. Re: Possibility of Trinity being false - Michael on Nov 17, 2016, 9:45 PM
                      5. Re: Possibility of Trinity being false - RGJesus on Nov 18, 2016, 6:35 AM
      2. Re: I'm no longer a Trinitarian. I'm a biblical Unitarian. - RGJesus on Nov 10, 2016, 7:08 AM
        1. God's nature is a mystery, so we can't know if he is a Trinity, or Binity, or - Tomas on Nov 27, 2016, 2:37 AM
          1. For Tomas - RGJesus on Dec 8, 2016, 6:40 AM
            1. We can know some things about the nature of God, like that he is omnipresent, - Tomas on Dec 8, 2016, 10:00 PM
     
  2. Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong View Thread - RGJesus on Nov 18, 2016, 6:34 AM
    1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - Michael on Nov 19, 2016, 8:19 AM
      1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - RGJ on Nov 21, 2016, 5:47 AM
        1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - Michael on Nov 22, 2016, 3:56 AM
          1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - RGJ on Nov 23, 2016, 5:33 AM
            1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 6:13 AM
              1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - RGJ on Nov 23, 2016, 8:44 AM
                1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 9:37 AM
                  1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - RGJesus on Dec 8, 2016, 6:39 AM
                    1. Re: Possibility of the Trinity Being Wrong - Michael on Dec 8, 2016, 6:43 PM
     
  3. What is your text analysis of 1 Peter 1:1? (Especially linguist Tomas) View Thread - Michael on Jul 23, 2016, 12:49 PM
    1. Yes, through the righteousness of both of them. - Tomas on Jul 23, 2016, 4:29 PM
      1. Re: Yes, through the righteousness of both of them. - Michael on Jul 24, 2016, 1:36 AM
        1. It is in the genitive case. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2016, 7:12 PM
          1. The question is, are they wrong and you are right? - Michael on Jul 31, 2016, 9:10 PM
            1. Both translations are grammatically correct. - Tomas on Aug 3, 2016, 12:49 AM
              1. Re: Both translations are grammatically correct. - Michael on Aug 4, 2016, 2:34 AM
                1. My translation is more in harmony with the rest of the Bible. - Tomas on Aug 6, 2016, 7:26 PM
                  1. Re: My translation is more in harmony with the rest of the Bible. - Michael on Aug 7, 2016, 1:35 AM
                    1. I guess you should study more about Greek grammar. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 11:37 PM
                      1. Re: I guess you should study more about Greek grammar. - Michael on Aug 14, 2016, 2:12 AM
                      2. It is your claim that Theou qualifies Iesou Christou. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 10:09 PM
                      3. Re: It is your claim that Theou qualifies Iesou Christou. - Michael on Aug 21, 2016, 11:54 AM
                      4. Sure, you have explained, but I disagree. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 11:42 PM
                      5. Re: Sure, you have explained, but I disagree. - Michael on Aug 28, 2016, 12:47 AM
                      6. Well, I disagree. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 11:17 PM
                      7. I can see that. - Michael on Sep 4, 2016, 12:51 AM
                      8. I did not say we can be both correct in our interpretation. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 8:36 PM
                      9. Re: I did not say we can be both correct in our interpretation. - Michael on Sep 20, 2016, 8:08 AM
                      10. Answer hidden in an ambiguous verse? Hard to believe. - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 8:06 PM
                      11. Re: Answer hidden in an ambiguous verse? Hard to believe. - Michael on Sep 24, 2016, 8:20 PM
                      12. It is grammatically ambiguous. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 10:39 PM
                      13. Re: It is grammatically ambiguous. - Michael on Oct 20, 2016, 10:50 AM
                      14. Granville Sharp was of course not a native speaker of ancient Greek. - Tomas on Oct 22, 2016, 9:12 PM
                      15. And neither you nor I are. The thing is they are Greek scholars. - Michael on Oct 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
                      16. They are Greek scholars, but they don't have access to native speakers. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 9:24 PM
                      17. Re: They are Greek scholars, but they don't have access to native speakers. - Michael on Oct 31, 2016, 12:19 AM
                      18. Exceptions to the rule. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 1:57 AM
                      19. Re: Exceptions to the rule. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 2:35 AM
                      20. Yes, I can cite the exceptions. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 2:16 AM
    2. It's 2 Peter 1:1, not 1 Peter 1:1. My apologies. - Michael on Jul 24, 2016, 1:27 AM
      1. No problem. Everybody makes errors sometimes. - Tomas on Jul 31, 2016, 7:14 PM
     
  4. 2] Tomas and all, consider this scripture: John 6:38 View Thread - Michael on May 13, 2016, 9:00 AM
    1. My answers: - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 1:00 PM
      1. Re: My answers: - Michael on May 15, 2016, 1:26 AM
        1. My response to your response: - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 3:53 PM
          1. Re: My response to your response: - Michael on May 26, 2016, 10:18 AM
            1. My answers to your new or repeated questions. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 5:08 PM
              1. Re: My answers to your new or repeated questions. - Michael on May 29, 2016, 6:32 AM
                1. About the LORD of hosts. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 7:06 PM
                  1. Re: About the LORD of hosts. - Michael on Jun 5, 2016, 2:09 AM
                    1. About Yahweh of hosts. - Tomas on Jun 11, 2016, 6:14 PM
                      1. Re: About Yahweh of hosts. - Michael on Jun 12, 2016, 7:18 AM
                      2. What does that mean? - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 1:51 AM
                      3. Re: What does that mean? - Michael on Jun 23, 2016, 3:03 AM
                      4. What is Yahweh of hosts? - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 10:26 PM
                      5. Re: What is Yahweh of hosts? - Michael on Jul 15, 2016, 1:12 PM
                      6. King of kings and Lord of lords. - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 8:36 PM
                      7. God is the King of kings and the Lord of Lords. - Michael on Jul 18, 2016, 3:38 AM
                      8. The same is true of Christ. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2016, 12:11 AM
                      9. That's right, and that's the point. - Michael on Aug 9, 2016, 4:30 AM
                      10. That does not prove Christ is God. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 9:17 PM
                      11. For you, I understand. - Michael on Aug 14, 2016, 4:02 AM
                      12. The Bible does not teach Christ is God. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 9:04 PM
                      13. Re: The Bible does not teach Christ is God. - Michael on Aug 22, 2016, 8:08 AM
                      14. You think it teaches Christ is God. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 10:46 PM
                      15. And you think it doesn't, or it may or may not. - Michael on Sep 4, 2016, 6:05 AM
                      16. It does not teach he is God, or is not God. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 6:22 PM
                      17. Re: It does not teach he is God, or is not God. - Michael on Oct 1, 2016, 11:43 PM
                      18. Well, different Christians think they see different things in the Bible. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 12:16 AM
                      19. Re: Well, different Christians think they see different things in the Bible. - Michael on Oct 20, 2016, 9:18 AM
                      20. The task was somewhat simpler for the Bereans. - Tomas on Oct 22, 2016, 9:36 PM
                      21. Simpler or more difficult, is not the matter. - Michael on Oct 22, 2016, 11:14 PM
                      22. Your solution does not lessen the differences. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 9:09 PM
                      23. Re: Your solution does not lessen the differences. - Michael on Oct 31, 2016, 12:29 AM
                      24. Start off with their prejudices and biases to their belief? - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 1:27 AM
                      25. Re: Start off with their prejudices and biases to their belief? - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 2:56 AM
                      26. But many verses are difficult even for Christians. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 2:05 AM
    2. John 6:38 does not speak o Christ as preexisting in heaven. - INCquisitor on May 15, 2016, 9:15 AM
      1. How is John 6:38 a figure of speech? - Michael on May 15, 2016, 12:05 PM
        1. Re: How is John 6:38 a figure of speech? - INCquisitor on May 20, 2016, 5:24 PM
          1. What type of figure of speech is John 6:38, if you say it is? - Michael on May 21, 2016, 12:11 PM
            1. It is immaterial what figure of speech is John 6:38. - INCquisitor on May 22, 2016, 9:17 AM
              1. It is. For if you can't tell us, then you have no basis of saying it is a figure of speech - Michael on May 22, 2016, 10:11 AM
                1. If Jesus PHYSICALLY pre-existed in heaven, WHAT was he? - INCquisitor on May 29, 2016, 9:21 AM
                  1. If he physically preexisted, maybe he preexisted as a form. But he likely preexisted spi- - Tomas on May 29, 2016, 11:41 PM
                  2. Who said Jesus PHYSICALLY preexisted in heaven? - Michael on May 31, 2016, 11:47 AM
    3. Perhaps you can tell us what you think of John 6:38. - INCquisitor on Jun 12, 2016, 8:52 AM
      1. John 6:38 speaks of Him to have come down from heaven to do His Father's will on earth. - Michael on Jun 17, 2016, 5:14 AM
     
  5. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. View Thread - Michael on May 9, 2016, 6:41 AM
    1. Yes, faith comes to us by hearing or reading about the gospel in the Bible. - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 5:50 PM
      1. Faith cometh by hearing. Hearing whose word? - Michael on May 14, 2016, 11:04 PM
        1. The word of God. - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 11:11 PM
          1. Faith comes from God, by hearing His words. It does not come from something, but from God. - Michael on May 22, 2016, 12:32 AM
            1. Faith comes from us hearing the word of God, so ultimately it comes from God. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 12:03 PM
              1. So you believe that your faith comes from you. I don't. - Michael on May 28, 2016, 12:52 PM
                1. Ultimately, faith is a gift from God. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 4:32 PM
                  1. Ultimately, faith comes from God, a gift from God. - Michael on May 29, 2016, 10:44 AM
                    1. OK, by your request, I'll answer your questions within your post. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 7:59 PM
                      1. Re: OK, by your request, I'll answer your questions within your post. - Michael on Jun 5, 2016, 1:56 AM
                      2. About faith, salvation, works, unity. - Tomas on Jun 11, 2016, 6:40 PM
                      3. Re: About faith, salvation, works, unity. - Michael on Jun 12, 2016, 11:17 AM
                      4. More about faith, salvation, unity. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 2:13 AM
                      5. Re: More about faith, salvation, unity. - Michael on Jun 19, 2016, 8:50 AM
                      6. Being saved but against God? And about receiving. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 11:12 PM
                      7. Re: Being saved but against God? And about receiving. - Michael on Jul 15, 2016, 12:37 PM
                      8. Against God, receiving versus not receiving. - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 9:47 PM
                      9. Re: Against God, receiving versus not receiving. - Michael on Jul 16, 2016, 10:30 PM
                      10. Not against God, receiving or not receiving. - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 11:44 PM
                      11. Re: Not against God, receiving or not receiving. - Michael on Jul 17, 2016, 8:26 AM
                      12. About what is ungodly, about receiving and not receiving. - Tomas on Jul 23, 2016, 6:20 PM
                      13. Re: About what is ungodly, about receiving and not receiving. - Michael on Aug 13, 2016, 6:20 AM
                      14. About private interpretation, about receiving from God. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 6:00 PM
                      15. Re: About private interpretation, about receiving from God. - Michael on Aug 27, 2016, 2:49 AM
                      16. More about private interpretation, receiving from God. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 7:59 PM
                      17. Re: More about private interpretation, receiving from God. - Michael on Sep 8, 2016, 8:23 AM
                      18. You have skipped the section about private interpretation. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 2:06 PM
                      19. Re: You have skipped the section about private interpretation. - Michael on Oct 2, 2016, 2:58 AM
                      20. Private interpretation and Rom. 14, and 1 Cor. 4:6-7. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 4:16 AM
                      21. Re: Private interpretation and Rom. 14, and 1 Cor. 4:6-7. - Michael on Oct 9, 2016, 8:51 AM
                      22. About private interpretation, Rom. 14, 1 Cor. 4:6. - Tomas on Oct 15, 2016, 8:38 PM
                      23. Re: About private interpretation, Rom. 14, 1 Cor. 4:6. - Michael on Oct 18, 2016, 10:22 AM
                      24. Private interpretation, Rom. 14, 1 Cor. 4. - Tomas on Oct 23, 2016, 1:46 AM
                      25. Re: Private interpretation, Rom. 14, 1 Cor. 4. - Michael on Oct 23, 2016, 6:16 AM
                      26. Private interpretation, Rom. 14 and sinful eating, 1 Cor. 4. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 3:02 AM
                      27. Re: Private interpretation, Rom. 14 and sinful eating, 1 Cor. 4. - Michael on Oct 30, 2016, 10:34 AM
                      28. Rom. 14 and sinful eating, Apollos. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 2:52 AM
                      29. Re: Rom. 14 and sinful eating, Apollos. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 3:24 AM
                      30. Sinful eating, Apollos. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 1:55 AM
    2. Faith does not come from God; neither is faith a gift from God. - INCquisitor on May 29, 2016, 11:38 AM
      1. Re: Faith does not come from God; neither is faith a gift from God. - Michael on May 31, 2016, 11:09 AM
        1. Faith is the result of hearing, believing and obeying the gospel of Christ. - INCquisitor on Jun 19, 2016, 11:12 AM
          1. ara he pistis ex akoes, he de akoe dia rhematos Christou. - Michael on Jun 21, 2016, 9:25 AM
            1. Re: ara he pistis ex akoes, he de akoe dia rhematos Christou. - INCquisitor on Jul 17, 2016, 10:49 AM
              1. Re: ara he pistis ex akoes, he de akoe dia rhematos Christou. - Michael on Jul 19, 2016, 1:43 PM
     
  6. INCquisitor, is the Son of God, Jesus Christ, a false God? View Thread - Michael on Dec 3, 2015, 9:50 AM
    1. Jesus is a FALSE God to people who believe that Jesus is God. - INCquisitor on Dec 4, 2015, 4:05 AM
      1. Do you know of anyone mentioned in scriptures said to believe that Jesus Christ is God? - Michael on Dec 5, 2015, 3:47 AM
        1. Scriptures do not speak of trinity nor Trinitarians who believe that Jesus is God. - INCquisitor on Dec 5, 2015, 5:20 AM
          1. Scriptures don't speak of binitarians or modalists who believed Christ is God, but - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 6:18 AM
            1. And Tomas, are you still immersed in possibilities, and not in truth? - Michael on Dec 5, 2015, 10:15 AM
              1. In truth revealed in the Bible, and in possibilities where truth is not revealed. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 10:40 AM
                1. That's right. In possibilities, not truths. - Michael on Dec 5, 2015, 7:46 PM
                  1. I believe in all the truths revealed in the Bible. - Tomas on Dec 12, 2015, 7:51 AM
                    1. That's good Tomas. - Michael on Dec 14, 2015, 7:09 PM
                      1. Can we know who the Son is? - Tomas on Dec 19, 2015, 11:31 AM
                      2. I don't know about you. Peter did. And I, and many others do. - Michael on Dec 20, 2015, 8:53 AM
                      3. Peter did not know if the Son is God. Neither do you, even though you think you know. - Tomas on Dec 25, 2015, 9:22 PM
                      4. What you asked was this "Can we know WHO the Son is?" - Michael on Jan 1, 2016, 5:48 AM
                      5. We don't know who the Son is ultimately. - Tomas on Jan 2, 2016, 12:32 AM
                      6. You and many others perhaps, but not the children of God. - Michael on Jan 4, 2016, 10:29 PM
                      7. Neither do we, the children of God, know. - Tomas on Jan 9, 2016, 6:55 AM
                      8. Only to you Tomas, not to me. - Michael on Jan 14, 2016, 7:31 AM
                      9. You think you know, but you are misguided in this. - Tomas on Jan 16, 2016, 12:40 PM
                      10. I am not Tomas. Scriptures is my guide. You are. - Michael on Jan 24, 2016, 3:59 AM
                      11. You are Michael. As for me, scriptures are my guide too. - Tomas on Jan 30, 2016, 2:18 AM
                      12. Re: You are Michael. As for me, scriptures are my guide too. - Michael on May 9, 2016, 8:50 AM
                      13. Yes, and scriptures guide us to lots of truths. But of course not all truth. Some truths - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 5:07 PM
                      14. The OT (some truths) were for sometime with the Israelites, yet still have not seen some.. - Michael on May 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
                      15. There are lots of truths still not known to any of us. And we will never be omniscient. - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 5:38 PM
                      16. Re: There are lots of truths still not known to any of us. And we will never be omniscient. - Michael on May 28, 2016, 11:44 AM
                      17. About Jewish elders misunderstanding the OT, and other issues. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 1:55 PM
                      18. Re: About Jewish elders misunderstanding the OT, and other issues. - Michael on Jun 3, 2016, 10:29 AM
                      19. About Jews not seeing some things revealed, and other issues. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 12:28 PM
                      20. Re: About Jews not seeing some things revealed, and other issues. - Michael on Jun 4, 2016, 2:33 PM
                      21. About the various issues. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 6:29 PM
                      22. Re: About the various issues. - Michael on Jun 5, 2016, 10:16 AM
                      23. About whether the Word is God or not, him being a god, taking away the sin of the world. - Tomas on Jun 11, 2016, 5:36 PM
                      24. Re: About whether the Word is God or not, him being a god, taking away the sin of the world. - Michael on Jun 12, 2016, 10:07 AM
                      25. More about whether the Word is God, about him being a god, taking away the sin of the worl - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 2:47 AM
                      26. Re: More about whether the Word is God, about him being a god, taking away the sin of the worl - Michael on Jun 19, 2016, 7:49 AM
                      27. Can any of us know whether Jesus is God? I say no. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 11:46 PM
                      28. Re: Can any of us know whether Jesus is God? I say no. - Michael on Jun 26, 2016, 3:06 AM
                      29. We can know only what is revealed about Jesus. - Tomas on Jul 2, 2016, 11:25 PM
                      30. Re: We can know only what is revealed about Jesus. - Michael on Jul 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
                      31. You feel so sure, you don't even recognize you could be wrong. - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 10:28 PM
                      32. Re: You feel so sure, you don't even recognize you could be wrong. - Michael on Jul 17, 2016, 1:53 AM
                      33. You still feel totally sure about it, and that is incorrect. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2016, 4:39 AM
                      34. Re: You still feel totally sure about it, and that is incorrect. - Michael on Jul 27, 2016, 10:20 AM
                      35. Don't you see? Only one of the two is called God. - Tomas on Jul 30, 2016, 5:59 PM
                      36. Re: Don't you see? Only one of the two is called God. - Michael on Aug 7, 2016, 5:42 AM
                      37. It hints that maybe only one of the 2 is God. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 10:04 PM
                      38. Re: It hints that maybe only one of the 2 is God. - Michael on Aug 14, 2016, 3:29 AM
                      39. It is clear that maybe only one of them is God. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 9:58 PM
                      40. Re: It is clear that maybe only one of them is God. - Michael on Aug 22, 2016, 7:57 AM
                      41. The opinion of the common man can be wrong. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 11:06 PM
                      42. Re: The opinion of the common man can be wrong. - Michael on Aug 28, 2016, 1:30 AM
                      43. What some people naturally think, and about gods. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 10:43 PM
                      44. Re: What some people naturally think, and about gods. - Michael on Sep 4, 2016, 12:29 AM
                      45. About true gods. - Tomas on Sep 10, 2016, 9:12 PM
                      46. Re: About true gods. - Michael on Sep 18, 2016, 7:15 AM
                      47. The footnote is not inerrant. - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 9:11 PM
                      48. Re: The footnote is not inerrant. - Michael on Sep 25, 2016, 12:08 AM
                      49. Judges as gods. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 10:14 PM
                      50. Re: Judges as gods. - Michael on Oct 8, 2016, 11:58 PM
                      51. Judges and others as gods. - Tomas on Oct 15, 2016, 9:31 PM
                      52. Re: Judges and others as gods. - Michael on Oct 18, 2016, 3:10 AM
                      53. who are gods? - Tomas on Oct 23, 2016, 7:55 PM
                      54. Re: who are gods? - Michael on Oct 26, 2016, 4:06 AM
                      55. Christ simply explained what it means to be true gods. - Tomas on Oct 29, 2016, 8:18 PM
                      56. Re: Christ simply explained what it means to be true gods. - Michael on Oct 30, 2016, 8:56 AM
                      57. Yes, he did. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 3:12 AM
                      58. Re: Yes, he did. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 3:53 AM
                      59. About gods. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 1:45 AM
            2. He who has not heard Jesus or has, but does not believe in him is condemned. - INCquisitor on Dec 5, 2015, 2:02 PM
              1. Sure we have to believe in Jesus. But believing he is not God or is God is irrelevant for - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 2:25 PM
                1. What you say leads others to fall into the ditch. - INCquisitor on Dec 6, 2015, 10:31 AM
                  1. Not true at all. - Tomas on Dec 12, 2015, 8:04 AM
                    1. It's impossible to discuss intelligently with you! - INcquisitor on Dec 13, 2015, 11:13 AM
                      1. You sure give up discussions easily. - Tomas on Dec 13, 2015, 10:16 PM
                      2. You don't answer rationally, that's why. - INCquisitor on Dec 19, 2015, 6:55 AM
                      3. Are you accusing trinitarians, binitarians, modalists, of also not answering rationally? - Tomas on Dec 19, 2015, 11:38 AM
                      4. Aren't they? - INCquisitor on Dec 23, 2015, 4:29 AM
                      5. No, it is a logical deduction, whether it happens to be truth or not. - Tomas on Dec 25, 2015, 10:07 PM
                      6. Arguing WITHOUT considering ALL other facts is IRRATIONAL! - INCquisitor on Jun 19, 2016, 8:09 AM
                      7. from you! - Nom on Jan 29, 2016, 10:22 PM
                      8. Not from INCquisitor. Modalists had that belief, that Christ is the Father, already in the - Tomas on Jan 30, 2016, 2:24 AM
                      9. My belief is based on what is written in the Todays' English Version of John 17:12. - INCquisitor on Jun 19, 2016, 8:29 AM
                      10. I haven't seen Nom here for a long time. So surely he won't answer you. But - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
                      11. How come Jesus is called Jesus Christ, Christ or Christ Jesus? - INCquisitor on Jun 26, 2016, 9:01 AM
                      12. The word Christ comes from Greek Christos, which means anointed. - Tomas on Jul 2, 2016, 11:41 PM
          2. So your answer to the question is NO, right? - Michael on Dec 5, 2015, 9:53 AM
            1. Re: So your answer to the question is NO, right? - INCquisitor on Dec 6, 2015, 10:43 AM
              1. Re: So your answer to the question is NO, right? - Michael on Dec 6, 2015, 8:23 PM
                1. To those who do not believe that Jesus is God, Jesus is not a false god. - INCquisitor on Dec 12, 2015, 1:18 PM
                  1. Evading the rest of the discussion in the thread INCquisitor? - Michael on Dec 14, 2015, 11:03 AM
                    1. Re: Evading the rest of the discussion in the thread INCquisitor? - INCquisitor on Dec 16, 2015, 4:36 PM
                      1. Re: Evading the rest of the discussion in the thread INCquisitor? - Michael on Dec 16, 2015, 9:47 PM
                      2. Re: Evading the rest of the discussion in the thread INCquisitor? - INCquisitor on Dec 17, 2015, 5:59 PM
                      3. Re: Evading the rest of the discussion in the thread INCquisitor? - Michael on Dec 20, 2015, 9:47 AM
                      4. Who is the "another" Jesus that FALSE teachers preached (2 Cor. 11:3-4)? - INCquisitor on Dec 23, 2015, 7:45 PM
                      5. That's a good thing to study in Scriptures INCquisitor. Hope you would. - Michael on Dec 24, 2015, 2:45 AM
                      6. Nicene Creed: Jesus is God of God, who came down from heaven and was made man. - INCquisitor on Dec 24, 2015, 8:07 PM
                      7. Take issue on that with the RCC, INCquisitor. - Michael on Jan 1, 2016, 7:31 PM
                      8. Trinitarians say that Jesus "came as God and became man." Nicene Creed proves that. - INCquisitor on Jan 5, 2016, 6:08 AM
                      9. As I said, take issue on that with those who say that. - Michael on Jan 5, 2016, 8:22 AM
     
  7. Jesus said " I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore" View Thread - Michael on Sep 6, 2015, 1:38 AM
    1. Why are you ignoring my answers to you? And instead you have a new - Tomas on Sep 12, 2015, 3:56 AM
      1. Jesus said "I am He who lives,and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore." - Michael on Sep 13, 2015, 8:59 AM
        1. "He who lives" does not refer to the Lord Almighty who spoke in Rev. 1:8. - INCquisitor on Sep 14, 2015, 3:06 PM
        2. Michael, the Lord God, the Almighty, in Rev. 1:8 is not Jesus. - Tomas on Sep 19, 2015, 8:41 AM
          1. And, Michael, are you giving up on discussing the issues in the threads below? - Tomas on Sep 19, 2015, 8:43 AM
            1. No, Tomas. I'll get to them as soon as I find time. - Michael on Sep 28, 2015, 10:30 PM
              1. OK, take your time, no problem. - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 6:28 PM
          2. Tomas, please take the issue at the OP, and not present another one. - Michael on Sep 29, 2015, 1:38 AM
            1. OK, I will answer your questions here. - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 6:33 PM
              1. "I am the First and the Last, and the Living one, ....", Jesus said. Analyze the clause. - Michael on Oct 1, 2015, 3:43 AM
                1. So both Yahweh and Jesus are the first and the last, in some senses. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:17 AM
                  1. They are both called by the title "the First and the Last". A truth revealed. - Michael on Oct 3, 2015, 5:22 AM
                    1. Just because two beings have the same titles, does not prove they are identical. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 6:33 AM
                      1. That could be right in the case of Obama. But we are considering God. - Michael on Oct 3, 2015, 7:45 AM
                      2. It works with Obama, the Bible does not say it doesn't work with God. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 11:56 AM
                      3. :) You want the Bible to say that? - Michael on Oct 6, 2015, 10:43 AM
                      4. I don't want the Bible to say that, and tell us by this that Jesus is God, because that - Tomas on Oct 10, 2015, 6:28 AM
                      5. So, you know the mind of God, and say that that was not God's intention? - Michael on Oct 17, 2015, 6:23 AM
                      6. That it was not God's intention, is clear from the fact that the Bible does not reveal - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 8:49 AM
                      7. Not to you perhaps. - Michael on Nov 15, 2015, 1:18 AM
                      8. Not to you either, even though you disagree. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 8:54 AM
                      9. Well, it's an eye issue then. My eyes see,and yours don't. - Michael on Jan 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
                      10. My eyes see well to read. - Tomas on Jan 9, 2016, 4:57 AM
                      11. Why then can't you not see? - Michael on Jan 15, 2016, 4:46 AM
                      12. I can't not see because I can see, so I see. - Tomas on Jan 16, 2016, 11:07 AM
                      13. Sorry about that. - Michael on May 21, 2016, 1:02 PM
                      14. Christ was created, and the two who are both Alpha and Omega. - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 2:02 PM
                      15. Re: Christ was created, and the two who are both Alpha and Omega. - Michael on May 29, 2016, 4:41 AM
                      16. God did not create another God. And the two who are both Alpha and Omega. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 6:55 PM
                      17. Yes, God and Christ have lots in common, even divine titles. - Michael on Jun 5, 2016, 6:20 AM
                      18. They have some titles in common, but we can't know if they are divine titles. - Tomas on Jun 11, 2016, 6:08 PM
                      19. Re: They have some titles in common, but we can't know if they are divine titles. - Michael on Jun 12, 2016, 8:20 AM
                      20. OK, we can't know if they are exclusively divine titles. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 1:42 AM
                      21. Re: OK, we can't know if they are exclusively divine titles. - Michael on Jun 23, 2016, 4:35 AM
                      22. God and his Son. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 10:15 PM
                      23. Re: God and his Son. - Michael on Jul 11, 2016, 9:40 PM
                      24. God and his Son. - Tomas on Jul 17, 2016, 12:35 AM
                      25. Re: God and his Son. - Michael on Jul 17, 2016, 2:32 AM
                      26. God and his Son, angels. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2016, 3:45 AM
                      27. Re: God and his Son, angels. - Michael on Aug 7, 2016, 6:23 AM
                      28. Yahweh, angels, titles. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 9:46 PM
                      29. Re: Yahweh, angels, titles. - Michael on Aug 13, 2016, 10:37 PM
                      30. More about Yahweh, angels, titles. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 11:38 PM
                      31. Re: More about Yahweh, angels, titles. - Michael on Aug 24, 2016, 11:21 AM
                      32. And more about Yahweh, angels, titles. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 9:53 PM
                      33. Re: And more about Yahweh, angels, titles. - Michael on Sep 18, 2016, 5:14 AM
                      34. About Yahweh, angels, titles. - Tomas on Sep 24, 2016, 11:59 PM
                      35. Re: About Yahweh, angels, titles. - Michael on Oct 1, 2016, 9:33 PM
                      36. Our Father, angels, titles. - Tomas on Oct 1, 2016, 11:28 PM
                      37. Re: Our Father, angels, titles. - Michael on Oct 10, 2016, 10:39 AM
                      38. the Father, our Father, angels, titles. - Tomas on Oct 15, 2016, 2:04 PM
                      39. Re: the Father, our Father, angels, titles. - Michael on Oct 20, 2016, 6:25 AM
                      40. Our Father, your Father, angels, titles. - Tomas on Oct 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
                      41. Re: Our Father, your Father, angels, titles. - Michael on Oct 23, 2016, 12:03 AM
                      42. About our Father, your Father, angels, titles. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 8:58 PM
                      43. Re: About our Father, your Father, angels, titles. - Michael on Oct 31, 2016, 12:45 AM
                      44. Angels and those who will be given eternal life, belief about whether Christ is God. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 1:46 AM
                      45. Re: Angels and those who will be given eternal life, belief about whether Christ is God. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 4:28 AM
                      46. About choosing whether Christ is God or not. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 1:35 AM
    2. Isn't it time you tell us what you think of Rev. 1:18? - INCquisitor on Jun 12, 2016, 8:56 AM
      1. It's in the OP INCquisitor. - Michael on Jun 17, 2016, 5:50 AM
     
  8. What is the IQ of an apple? View Thread - year2027 on Jan 16, 2016, 8:59 AM
    1. Re: What is the IQ of an apple? - year2027 on Jan 16, 2016, 6:45 PM
      1. So if you think plants have intelligence, preach the gospel to them. - Tomas on Jan 16, 2016, 7:04 PM
        1. Re: So if you think plants have intelligence, preach the gospel to them. - year2027 on Jan 16, 2016, 7:45 PM
        2. Re: So if you think plants have intelligence, preach the gospel to them. - year2027 on Jan 17, 2016, 5:32 AM
          1. Roy, perhaps you did. - Michael on Jan 19, 2016, 7:41 PM
        3. Why Tomas, do you preach the gospel to animals? - Michael on Jan 19, 2016, 7:36 PM
          1. No, I was just reacting to his claim that plants have intelligence. - Tomas on Jan 20, 2016, 11:08 PM
            1. Consider this biblical passage concerning other created things which includes the plants - Michael on Jan 22, 2016, 5:36 PM
              1. But the whole creation would include not only things like plants, but also - Tomas on Jan 30, 2016, 11:28 AM
                1. That's right, all creation, including everything. - Michael on Jan 31, 2016, 9:29 AM
                  1. Winds and sea don't consciously obey Jesus. - Tomas on Jan 31, 2016, 6:18 PM
                    1. As we currently understand it. - Michael on Feb 3, 2016, 3:34 AM
                      1. Intelligence of non-living objects would mean animism. - Tomas on Feb 6, 2016, 6:50 AM
                      2. Perhaps, 'intelligence' or 'awareness' different from what we understand today. - Michael on Feb 19, 2016, 7:36 PM
                      3. OK, I missed the earlier mention of waiting in verse 19. Anyway, it is not meant literally - Tomas on Feb 20, 2016, 8:03 PM
                      4. Literally or figuratively, either way, all creation waits, and - Michael on Feb 21, 2016, 6:47 PM
                      5. I understand it figuratively. There is no brain or nerves or anything like that in stones, - Tomas on Feb 27, 2016, 1:10 PM
                      6. I can see that. - Michael on Mar 1, 2016, 8:59 PM
                      7. Yes, that is what I believe. - Tomas on Mar 5, 2016, 7:13 PM
                      8. Re: Yes, that is what I believe. - Michael on May 18, 2016, 9:52 PM
                      9. Being subjected to futility. - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 4:39 PM
                      10. Re: Being subjected to futility. - Michael on May 28, 2016, 9:15 AM
                      11. What is all subjected to futility. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 10:12 AM
                      12. Re: What is all subjected to futility. - Michael on May 28, 2016, 10:48 AM
                      13. About the futility. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 4:54 PM
                      14. Re: About the futility. - Michael on May 29, 2016, 9:15 AM
                      15. My beliefs about the futility and why I disagree with you. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 5:42 PM
                      16. God never created something useless and without purpose - Michael on Jun 6, 2016, 12:13 PM
                      17. Yes, even dangerous viruses have some purpose, if only to make us ill or to kill us. - Tomas on Jun 11, 2016, 4:42 PM
                      18. Re: Yes, even dangerous viruses have some purpose, if only to make us ill or to kill us. - Michael on Jun 17, 2016, 7:48 AM
                      19. About futility, and about Adam and Eve not dying. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 1:08 AM
                      20. Re: About futility, and about Adam and Eve not dying. - Michael on Jun 23, 2016, 5:16 AM
                      21. About futility, about hope. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 9:49 PM
                      22. Re: About futility, about hope. - Michael on Jul 16, 2016, 1:47 AM
                      23. Then what do you mean by corruption? - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 8:30 PM
                      24. Decay - Michael on Jul 18, 2016, 6:31 AM
                      25. About decay - Tomas on Jul 23, 2016, 11:47 PM
                      26. Re: About decay - Michael on Aug 9, 2016, 4:51 AM
                      27. About decay. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 9:06 PM
                      28. Re: About decay. - Michael on Aug 14, 2016, 4:32 AM
                      29. More about decay. - Tomas on Aug 20, 2016, 8:58 PM
                      30. Re: More about decay. - Michael on Aug 22, 2016, 8:46 AM
                      31. Decay, loss of salvation. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 10:38 PM
                      32. Re: Decay, loss of salvation. - Michael on Sep 3, 2016, 10:25 AM
                      33. Loss of salvation. - Tomas on Sep 3, 2016, 6:02 PM
                      34. Re: Loss of salvation. - Michael on Sep 15, 2016, 9:34 PM
                      35. Loss of salvation of those who live in sin. - Tomas on Sep 25, 2016, 1:37 AM
                      36. Re: Loss of salvation of those who live in sin. - Michael on Sep 25, 2016, 3:05 AM
                      37. about loss of salvation of those who live in sin. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 1:21 AM
                      38. Re: about loss of salvation of those who live in sin. - Michael on Oct 20, 2016, 8:05 AM
                      39. Loss of salvation by living in sin. - Tomas on Oct 22, 2016, 10:06 PM
                      40. Re: Loss of salvation by living in sin. - Michael on Oct 23, 2016, 2:17 AM
                      41. About loss of salvation by living in sin. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 8:41 PM
                      42. Re: About loss of salvation by living in sin. - Michael on Oct 31, 2016, 1:47 AM
                      43. about loss of salvation, and the possibility of regaining salvation. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 1:28 AM
                      44. Re: about loss of salvation, and the possibility of regaining salvation. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 5:48 AM
                      45. Loss of salvation, and regaining salvation. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 1:25 AM
    2. Someday perhaps, scientist would find a way, if there is such thing as IQ for an apple. - Michael on Jan 19, 2016, 7:36 PM
      1. Re: Someday perhaps, scientist would find a way, if there is such thing as IQ for an apple. - year2027 on Jan 20, 2016, 5:25 PM
        1. Roy, read this biblical passage concerning other created things which includes the plants - Michael on Jan 22, 2016, 5:46 PM
     
  9. Question: Who do you say is the author of life? View Thread - Michael on Oct 14, 2016, 5:20 AM
    1. I have not found 'author of life' in Strong's concordance. - Tomas on Oct 15, 2016, 1:35 PM
      1. Archēgon tēs zōēs - Michael on Oct 16, 2016, 5:23 AM
        1. OK, it's Acts 3:15. - Tomas on Oct 16, 2016, 6:55 PM
          1. Re: OK, it's Acts 3:15. - Michael on Oct 17, 2016, 9:10 AM
            1. Christ is the author of life, but the only one? - Tomas on Oct 23, 2016, 8:37 PM
              1. Re: Christ is the author of life, but the only one? - Michael on Oct 26, 2016, 10:16 AM
                1. Is there nobody who could be the author of life but God? - Tomas on Oct 29, 2016, 6:42 PM
                  1. Re: Is there nobody who could be the author of life but God? - Michael on Oct 30, 2016, 12:37 AM
                    1. I did not say that. - Tomas on Nov 5, 2016, 11:26 PM
                      1. Re: I did not say that. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 7:08 AM
                      2. Acts 3:15. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 1:03 AM
    2. The KJV which is the oldest version of Acts 3:15 says, "PRINCE of life...." - INCquisitor on Nov 5, 2016, 8:42 AM
      1. Go to the original Greek: Archēgon tēs zōēs - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 8:08 AM
     
  10. Love Jesus more than your children, mother, father. View Thread - Michael on May 24, 2015, 9:28 PM
    1. Tell us what you think. Do you even know what love is? - INCquisitor on May 29, 2015, 4:18 AM
      1. Do you INCquisitor? Anyway, please just address the issues at the OP, if you will. - Michael on Jun 6, 2015, 1:45 PM
    2. Yes, Jesus is more important to us than our children or parents. - Tomas on May 30, 2015, 3:54 AM
      1. Re: Yes, Jesus is more important to us than our children or parents. - Michael on Jun 6, 2015, 1:56 PM
        1. Yes, if somebody loves his parents or children more than Jesus, not much love for Jesus. - Tomas on Jun 6, 2015, 4:15 PM
          1. Come on Tomas. Could you just answer the questions and stop beating around the bush? - Michael on Jun 7, 2015, 3:02 AM
            1. I am sad. I thought my answer answered your questions very directly. - Tomas on Jul 11, 2015, 6:00 PM
              1. Re: I am sad. I thought my answer answered your questions very directly. - Michael on Jul 19, 2015, 12:01 AM
                1. OK, my answers. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2015, 6:40 AM
                  1. Re: OK, my answers. - Michael on Aug 4, 2015, 5:58 PM
                    1. That would be a terrible sin. - Tomas on Aug 8, 2015, 7:58 AM
                      1. Why do you say it is a terrible sin? - Michael on Aug 9, 2015, 2:53 AM
                      2. Mt. 10:37. - Tomas on Aug 15, 2015, 7:20 AM
                      3. A terrible sin you say, yet you haven't shown a commandment that was disobeyed. - Michael on Aug 23, 2015, 6:40 AM
                      4. Mt. 10:37 implies the commandment. - Tomas on Aug 29, 2015, 7:23 AM
                      5. Re: Mt. 10:37 implies the commandment. - Michael on Sep 27, 2015, 10:37 AM
                      6. Regardless of reasons, we are clearly commanded to love him. - Tomas on Sep 27, 2015, 6:44 PM
                      7. The issue is why such a statement? Every messenger of God commands people to love God. - Michael on Sep 27, 2015, 9:59 PM
                      8. Yes, and in the New Testament we are commanded to love Jesus too. - Tomas on Sep 29, 2015, 8:22 PM
                      9. The point is, no messenger sent of God points to themselves, moreso to love them greatly - Michael on Sep 30, 2015, 11:55 AM
                      10. Jesus is a messenger too, see Mal. 3:1. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 4:07 AM
                      11. Sure He is. - Michael on Oct 3, 2015, 6:11 AM
                      12. Jesus is special. He is not like normal human messengers. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 6:25 AM
                      13. And keep on going about evading the real issue Tomas. - Michael on Oct 3, 2015, 8:28 AM
                      14. OK, I will try to address every issue there that you raised. - Tomas on Oct 3, 2015, 11:16 AM
                      15. I'd appreciate that. - Michael on Oct 6, 2015, 8:00 PM
                      16. Jesus says what the Father tells him to say. - Tomas on Oct 10, 2015, 6:17 AM
                      17. Re: Jesus says what the Father tells him to say. - Michael on Oct 15, 2015, 8:06 AM
                      18. Jesus obeys the Father's will. - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 9:49 AM
                      19. Did Jesus said nothing or did nothing on his own and out of his own intention and accord? - Michael on Nov 13, 2015, 8:26 AM
                      20. so Jesus is nothing but an avatar or robot? sad, so sad! - Nom on Oct 15, 2015, 8:41 AM
                      21. Not a robot, just an obedient person, just like the good angels. - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 9:53 AM
                      22. If so, then Jesus do things on His own accord. - Michael on Nov 13, 2015, 8:50 AM
                      23. Sure on his own accord, but always in obedience to his Father. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2015, 10:23 AM
                      24. So, it's settled then. Jesus does things on His own accord. - Michael on Jan 7, 2016, 11:22 AM
                      25. Yes, just like the good angels, in obedience to the Father. - Tomas on Jan 9, 2016, 5:16 AM
                      26. Re: Yes, just like the good angels, in obedience to the Father. - Michael on Jan 15, 2016, 4:32 AM
                      27. The love of God the Father and the love of his Son are equal. - Tomas on Jan 16, 2016, 11:15 AM
                      28. Of course they are, and are always equal. Not the issue Tomas. - Michael on Jan 25, 2016, 8:02 PM
                      29. Well, the Father did not lay down his life for us (unless he is the Christ). - Tomas on Jan 30, 2016, 3:14 AM
                      30. Re: Well, the Father did not lay down his life for us (unless he is the Christ). - Michael on May 9, 2016, 7:36 AM
                      31. About qualities being infinite, about forgiveness, about glory. - Tomas on May 14, 2016, 5:44 PM
                      32. Re: About qualities being infinite, about forgiveness, about glory. - Michael on May 16, 2016, 9:06 AM
                      33. More about qualities being infinite, also forgiveness, and glory. - Tomas on May 21, 2016, 6:12 PM
                      34. Re: More about qualities being infinite, also forgiveness, and glory. - Michael on May 28, 2016, 9:03 AM
                      35. More about infinite qualities, forgiveness, glory. - Tomas on May 28, 2016, 10:39 AM
                      36. Re: More about infinite qualities, forgiveness, glory. - Michael on Jun 4, 2016, 12:50 PM
                      37. And more about infinite qualities, forgiveness, and glory. - Tomas on Jun 4, 2016, 1:57 PM
                      38. Re: And more about infinite qualities, forgiveness, and glory. - Michael on Jun 18, 2016, 3:46 AM
                      39. Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Tomas on Jun 19, 2016, 12:35 AM
                      40. Re: Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Michael on Jun 23, 2016, 11:15 AM
                      41. About infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Tomas on Jun 25, 2016, 9:15 PM
                      42. Re: About infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Michael on Jul 16, 2016, 10:04 PM
                      43. Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Tomas on Jul 16, 2016, 11:14 PM
                      44. Re: Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, forgiveness. - Michael on Jul 17, 2016, 9:36 AM
                      45. Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, etc. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2016, 2:46 AM
                      46. Re: Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, etc. - Michael on Aug 13, 2016, 3:26 AM
                      47. Infinite qualities of angels, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Aug 13, 2016, 7:52 PM
                      48. Re: Infinite qualities of angels, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Aug 27, 2016, 1:53 AM
                      49. About infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Aug 27, 2016, 8:52 PM
                      50. Re: About infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Sep 15, 2016, 9:45 PM
                      51. Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Sep 25, 2016, 1:13 AM
                      52. Re: Infinite qualities, human nature of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Sep 25, 2016, 3:36 AM
                      53. character of holy angels, character of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Oct 2, 2016, 12:50 AM
                      54. Re: character of holy angels, character of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Oct 10, 2016, 9:19 AM
                      55. About character of holy angels, character of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Oct 15, 2016, 6:49 PM
                      56. Re: About character of holy angels, character of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Oct 20, 2016, 3:35 AM
                      57. Character of holy angels, of those given eternal life, of Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Oct 22, 2016, 11:48 PM
                      58. Re: Character of holy angels, of those given eternal life, of Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Oct 23, 2016, 4:05 AM
                      59. Character of those given eternal life, holy angels, Christ, salvation after death. - Tomas on Oct 30, 2016, 8:24 PM
                      60. Re: Character of those given eternal life, holy angels, Christ, salvation after death. - Michael on Oct 31, 2016, 2:38 AM
                      61. Infinite holiness, salvation after death. - Tomas on Nov 6, 2016, 12:28 AM
                      62. Re: Infinite holiness, salvation after death. - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 6:23 AM
                      63. Infinite holiness, being created holy, salvation after death. - Tomas on Dec 5, 2016, 12:56 AM
    3. Christ's disciples have only one teacher (Matt. 23:8). - INCquisitor on Jul 12, 2015, 10:19 AM
      1. Jesus said "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me". - Michael on Jul 19, 2015, 12:10 AM
        1. Not worthy of Christ means not worthy of salvation. - INCquisitor on Jul 19, 2015, 8:14 PM
          1. INCquisitor, here is the issue under this thread (See the OP). So quit deviating. - Michael on Sep 28, 2015, 4:12 AM
            1. What does Jesus man by "love?" - INCquisitor on Nov 5, 2016, 8:19 AM
              1. Re: What does Jesus man by "love?" - Michael on Nov 6, 2016, 8:40 AM
    4. Follow HIS command - tumpak on Jul 16, 2015, 10:31 AM
      1. Re: Follow HIS command - Michael on Jul 19, 2015, 12:11 AM
      2. To be a Saint, to be Holy - tumpak on Jul 19, 2015, 7:51 AM
        1. To be a saint? - Michael on Jul 19, 2015, 8:38 AM
      3. there was a young protestant - tumpak on Jul 20, 2015, 9:22 AM
        1. I studied the early 'fathers' too, and realized the RCC can't be the one true church. - Tomas on Jul 25, 2015, 6:24 AM
          1. Do not go beyond what is written - tumpak on Jul 27, 2015, 10:14 AM
            1. Paul was referring to all the books of the Bible, including those not written yet - Tomas on Aug 8, 2015, 8:02 AM
            2. the Bible??? - tumpak on Aug 10, 2015, 5:47 AM
              1. Yes, Tumpak, the whole Bible, whatever is written, 1 Cor. 4:6. - Tomas on Aug 15, 2015, 7:22 AM
              2. where is your prove that Paul was referring to the - tumpak on Aug 17, 2015, 8:15 AM
                1. Not to go beyond what is written. - Tomas on Aug 22, 2015, 8:04 AM
                2. Paul says "...what is written" - tumpak on Aug 25, 2015, 9:07 AM
                  1. When he wrote 'what is written', most of the Bible already had been written, - Tomas on Aug 29, 2015, 7:26 AM
                  2. it's a saying - tumpak on Sep 14, 2015, 1:39 AM
                    1. Had Paul written "beyond what was written", then he could not write anything more - Tomas on Sep 19, 2015, 9:12 AM
                  3. Re: Paul says "...what is written" - tumpak on Oct 15, 2015, 3:01 AM
                    1. Paul did not have the whole Bible yet, but he knew it would be completed. - Tomas on Oct 17, 2015, 10:02 AM
            3. What is your answer to your question Tumpak? - Michael on Aug 10, 2015, 11:31 AM
     
 
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