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  1. BUY Quaalude ,Hydro,Adderall,Xanax,Opana,nembutal TEXT(404) 647-4531 View Thread - DR JOHN WHITE on Mar 26, 2018, 4:55 AM
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  3. Lamsa translation - INCs favorite in quoting Acts 20:28 View Thread - Jerrymie on Nov 13, 2010, 7:50 AM
    1. I agree with INC here, the everlasting God in Is. 9:6 is the Father. - Tomas on Nov 13, 2010, 2:02 PM
      1. Your are not an INC, are you? - Jerrymie on Nov 13, 2010, 5:50 PM
        1. I also believe Jesus is not God - Burnie on Nov 14, 2010, 2:55 AM
          1. That is not the point. ... - Jerrymie on Nov 14, 2010, 5:28 AM
            1. That Isa 9:6 is not only vague, ambiguous but - Burnie on Nov 14, 2010, 11:32 AM
              1. Who says Isaiah 9:6 is "vague" and "ambiguous"? - Jerrymie on Nov 15, 2010, 6:16 AM
                1. It is unclear, doubtful, otherwise none would have questioned it ! - Burnie on Nov 15, 2010, 10:31 AM
                  1. Have you studied Biblical Hermeneutics? - Jerrymie on Nov 15, 2010, 8:32 PM
                  2. Your line of thinking is the one unclear. - Jerrymie on Nov 15, 2010, 8:45 PM
                    1. your logic is misplaced - burnie on Nov 15, 2010, 10:05 PM
                      1. It appears that you do not know the basic elements of argumentation. - Jerrymie on Nov 16, 2010, 8:57 AM
                      2. Well, haver you refuted the verses that refuted your vague verse? - Burnie on Nov 16, 2010, 12:53 PM
                      3. Prove your allegations and substantiate your statements. - Jerrymie on Nov 16, 2010, 6:17 PM
                      4. between 2 conflicting statements which would you think - Burnie on Nov 17, 2010, 8:15 PM
                      5. Immaterial and irrelevant. - Jerrymie on Nov 17, 2010, 8:33 PM
                      6. bwa ha ha ! What an argument ! - Burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 1:57 AM
                      7. It only shows that you lack evidence to substantiate your statements. - Jerrymie on Nov 18, 2010, 5:13 AM
                      8. bwa ha ha! jerrymie didn't say he's god - burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 10:18 AM
          2. You said that Jesus is "not God". - Jerrymie on Nov 16, 2010, 9:02 AM
            1. Hey Burnie, where is your proof? - Jerrymie on Nov 16, 2010, 6:21 PM
              1. If Osama BL said he's not God - Burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 2:12 AM
                1. Immaterial and irrelevant; we are not talking about Osama BL. - Jerrymie on Nov 18, 2010, 5:17 AM
                  1. Poor comprehension - burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 10:26 AM
                    1. What burnie could not prove by Evidence of Biblical statements. - Jerrymie on Nov 19, 2010, 7:34 AM
            2. Jerrymie, what else did Jesus say He was not that - Burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 2:06 AM
              1. Immaterial and irrelevant. - Jerrymie on Nov 18, 2010, 5:15 AM
              2. Do not escape your burden to prove your statements - Jerrymie on Nov 18, 2010, 6:27 AM
                1. Jerrymie believes Jesus is God because he didn't say he isn't God ! - burnie on Nov 18, 2010, 8:35 PM
                  1. What Burnie could not prove by Evidence of Biblical statements. - Jerrymie on Nov 19, 2010, 7:35 AM
                    1. Enough of your polemics, Jerrymie - BUrn Again on Nov 19, 2010, 9:09 PM
                      1. Well said, "How or what is there to prove something that is not existing?" - Jerrymie on Nov 19, 2010, 10:22 PM
                      2. How pathetic. Because the BIble did not write that Jesus - Burnie on Nov 20, 2010, 4:22 AM
                      3. Read these posts ... - Jerrymie on Nov 20, 2010, 9:49 AM
                      4. you're just wasting my time, man - Burnie on Nov 21, 2010, 9:50 AM
        2. Jerrymie, no, I am not an INC. - Tomas on Nov 19, 2010, 1:57 AM
          1. INCs intepret the bible the way they like. - Jerrymie on Nov 19, 2010, 7:32 AM
            1. There is bias on both sides. - Tomas on Nov 20, 2010, 2:44 PM
              1. Hebrews 1:8 is not bias. (You haven't studied Hermeneutics, are you?) - Jerrymie on Nov 20, 2010, 5:34 PM
                1. But I have studied ancient Greek. - Tomas on Nov 25, 2010, 9:26 PM
    2. Lamsa Translation Error? - Ukyo on Dec 21, 2017, 4:26 PM
      1. Is. 9:6 simply has a long name of the child, the parts of the name are not titles - Tomas on Dec 21, 2017, 11:21 PM
      2. The Lamsa translation is from the Syriac translation, so it can be that in Syriac - Tomas on Dec 21, 2017, 11:25 PM
     
  4. Dr. James White debate vs Joe and the INC getting pwned View Thread - Jason Stevens on May 21, 2017, 1:28 PM
    1. Not Dead - WasInc on Jun 16, 2017, 8:28 PM
      1. same here... - ncv.jr on Jul 1, 2017, 9:55 AM
        1. I viewed the the debate, over - WasInc on Jul 5, 2017, 11:13 PM
          1. I viewed the debate too. I am neither an INC member or an ex-member, but - Tomas on Jul 6, 2017, 10:04 PM
    2. The words of Jesus carry more weight than all other words in the world. - INCquisitor on Jul 9, 2017, 6:23 PM
      1. The words of the whole Bible carry more weight than all other words in the world. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 7:54 AM
        1. Re: The words of the whole Bible carry more weight than all other words in the world. - INCquisitor on Jul 23, 2017, 5:59 PM
          1. There was no need to wait until Jesus says otherwise. - Tomas on Jul 23, 2017, 7:35 PM
            1. Re: There was no need to wait until Jesus says otherwise. - INCquisitor on Jul 24, 2017, 7:20 PM
              1. Paul was inspired by God himself, in what he wrote. - Tomas on Jul 26, 2017, 9:11 AM
     
  5. James White cut JV into pieces. Fr. Darwin Gitgano pulverized Ramil Parba View Thread - Rosita Menorca on Jul 12, 2017, 9:47 AM
    1. The debate seems to be in Tagalog, and there are no English subtitles. - Tomas on Jul 12, 2017, 2:31 PM
     
  6. This is new to me... View Thread - jumerski on Mar 4, 2008, 10:25 AM
    1. sure i will gladly tell you - jerrlyn on Mar 4, 2008, 10:36 AM
      1. I cannot see this in the bible... - hagia sophia on Mar 4, 2008, 9:27 PM
        1. see how ignorant you are - jerrlyn on Mar 4, 2008, 9:44 PM
          1. jerrlyn, it is part of the INC... - hagia sophia on Mar 4, 2008, 9:52 PM
            1. well see you are dumb???? - jerrlyn on Mar 4, 2008, 9:55 PM
              1. but it never a part of our Churcg's Teachings.... - hagia sophia on Mar 4, 2008, 10:44 PM
                1. well is the questions is regards in the bible - jerrlyn on Mar 5, 2008, 12:15 AM
      2. Im not asking what the general meaning of "Hiling" or Wish is.. - jumerski on Mar 5, 2008, 6:13 AM
        1. was it not clear to you yet! - jerrlyn on Mar 5, 2008, 9:09 AM
          1. Please read carefully... - mervy on Mar 5, 2008, 9:36 AM
            1. well well well - jerrlyn on Mar 5, 2008, 10:32 AM
              1. Out of topic... diversions... - jumerski on Mar 5, 2008, 12:01 PM
                1. "hiling" thing... - ncv.jr on Jul 1, 2017, 10:14 AM
                  1. Thanks... - ncv.jr on Jul 1, 2017, 10:20 AM
    2. i am a former INCM, but i know about that HILING or wish... - Michael (former INCM) on Mar 5, 2008, 8:55 AM
      1. another moron - jerrlyn on Mar 5, 2008, 9:14 AM
        1. A true reflection of a hard core INC - WasInc on Jun 16, 2017, 8:25 PM
    3. In my own knowledge - animegirl1424 on Jun 11, 2017, 11:50 PM
      1. Hiling is 'Ask/Request' - WasInc on Jul 5, 2017, 11:08 PM
     
  7. Christ died for our sins. Can you tell how? View Thread - Michael on Apr 20, 2017, 1:10 AM
    1. The scriptures say Christ became sin for us, while of course remaining innocent. - Tomas on Apr 30, 2017, 1:26 AM
      1. The question is: HOW - Michael on May 3, 2017, 7:12 AM
        1. The scriptures prophesied he would be pierced, and he was and soon he died. - Tomas on May 13, 2017, 10:45 PM
          1. How was His death on the cross be for the sin of the world? - Michael on May 13, 2017, 10:52 PM
            1. He died for our sins, 1 Cor. 15:3, so for the sins of those in the world who would - Tomas on May 13, 2017, 11:51 PM
              1. Yes Jesus died for our sins and we know why. But... - Michael on May 14, 2017, 6:10 AM
                1. Because he was the only sinless human, then this way he could be a perfect - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 5:56 PM
                  1. How is it that his death on the cross is a sacrifice for the sin of the world? - Michael on May 15, 2017, 11:36 AM
                    1. Because God wanted a perfect sacrifice, and the only sinless human was Christ. - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 1:09 AM
                      1. If not of our sins, would Christ have died? - Michael on May 28, 2017, 5:44 AM
                      2. Of course if none of us sinned, then Christ would not have had to die for us. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:24 PM
                      3. Did God violate His own laws written in Deut. 24:16 and Ezek. 18:20? - INCquisitor on May 28, 2017, 4:24 PM
                      4. No, he did not. Christ is the head of the church, his body, so he died for his body. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:26 PM
    2. Please tell us what "Scripture" was Psul referring to (1 Cor. 15:3).. - INCquisitor on May 18, 2017, 7:00 PM
      1. Isaiah 53:5-7 - Michael on May 19, 2017, 8:39 AM
        1. How about Deut. 24:16 and Ezek. 18:20? Aren't these scriptures too? - INCquisitor on May 21, 2017, 4:39 PM
          1. Of course they are scriptures. - Michael on May 22, 2017, 8:51 AM
            1. "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - INCquisitor on May 23, 2017, 5:54 PM
              1. Re: "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - Michael on May 26, 2017, 8:32 AM
                1. Re: "According to the Scriptures" means "In compliance with the Scriptures.." - INCquisitor on May 26, 2017, 4:55 PM
                  1. A new Christ? - Michael on May 27, 2017, 2:43 AM
                    1. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 27, 2017, 4:56 PM
                      1. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on May 27, 2017, 7:37 PM
                      2. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 28, 2017, 4:22 PM
                      3. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on May 30, 2017, 4:56 AM
                      4. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on May 31, 2017, 7:48 PM
                      5. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 1, 2017, 1:21 AM
                      6. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 3, 2017, 6:35 AM
                      7. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 3, 2017, 9:44 AM
                      8. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 3, 2017, 8:04 PM
                      9. Re: A new Christ? - Michael on Jun 7, 2017, 7:21 AM
                      10. Re: A new Christ? - INCquisitor on Jun 11, 2017, 7:00 AM
     
  8. What do you say that Christ resurrected? View Thread - Michael on Apr 18, 2017, 4:47 AM
    1. Christ resurrected his body to eternal life, so he was no longer mortal. - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 1:46 AM
      1. What reason/s do you say that he resurrected? - Michael on Apr 19, 2017, 5:19 AM
        1. To have eternal life, and to prove even more that he is the Christ. And to show - Tomas on Apr 19, 2017, 9:45 AM
          1. Please show us scriptures that says what you say here. - Michael on Apr 19, 2017, 8:16 PM
            1. The Bible says he was sacrificed once. So he will not die again. So that implies - Tomas on Apr 30, 2017, 1:54 AM
              1. Does Jesus have the power to resurrect himself? - Michael on May 3, 2017, 6:55 AM
                1. Yes, with the Father doing that too. - Tomas on May 13, 2017, 11:00 PM
                  1. So, you are really saying Jesus has no power to resurrect himself? - Michael on May 14, 2017, 6:15 AM
                    1. He had the power, acting with the Father. - Tomas on May 14, 2017, 5:44 PM
                      1. So Jesus have power but cannot do anything by himself. - Michael on May 15, 2017, 11:43 AM
                      2. That's right, Jesus has the power only to do what the Father guides him to do. - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 1:29 AM
                      3. That's right. Jesus have the power. Period. - Michael on May 28, 2017, 5:29 AM
                      4. Yes, he received this command from his Father, as he said. So without that he - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:53 PM
    2. What do you say that Christ resurrected? - Michael on May 28, 2017, 5:41 AM
      1. The Father had to give him that power. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:57 PM
     
  9. Matt. 16:13-17 View Thread - Michael on Apr 20, 2017, 1:04 AM
    1. Jesus had already told them earlier he is the Son of a human. - Tomas on Apr 30, 2017, 1:35 AM
      1. Re: Jesus had already told them earlier he is the Son of a human. - Michael on May 3, 2017, 7:10 AM
        1. No, Jesus did not have to say again he is the Son of a human. - Tomas on May 13, 2017, 10:58 PM
          1. Re: No, Jesus did not have to say again he is the Son of a human. - Michael on May 15, 2017, 11:29 AM
            1. OK, you have a good point about why Jesus chose to say here he is the Son of a human. - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 2:04 AM
              1. Re: OK, you have a good point about why Jesus chose to say here he is the Son of a human. - Michael on May 28, 2017, 6:28 AM
                1. So if the story in Mt. 14 precedes Mt. 16 chronologically, as you seem to think it does... - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:50 PM
     
  10. The Gospel Of Christ View Thread - INCquisitor on Nov 13, 2016, 9:17 AM
    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 13, 2016, 10:44 PM
      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 16, 2016, 3:36 PM
        1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 17, 2016, 12:13 AM
          1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 18, 2016, 7:02 PM
            1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 20, 2016, 12:05 AM
              1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 7:41 AM
                1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 20, 2016, 10:07 AM
                  1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 1:23 PM
                    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 21, 2016, 4:20 AM
                      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 22, 2016, 6:07 PM
                      2. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 8:14 AM
                      3. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 24, 2016, 10:38 AM
                      4. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 25, 2016, 7:03 AM
                      5. Anyone who desires to attain eternal life must heed the gospel of Christ. - INCquisitor on Feb 19, 2017, 12:12 PM
                      6. INCquisitor evades the arguments...can't refute. - Michael on Apr 15, 2017, 1:18 AM
              2. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 7:54 AM
                1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 20, 2016, 10:11 AM
                  1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 1:27 PM
                    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 21, 2016, 4:25 AM
                      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 22, 2016, 6:14 PM
                      2. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 8:34 AM
                      3. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 24, 2016, 4:30 PM
                      4. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 25, 2016, 7:07 AM
                      5. Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - INCquisitor on Feb 19, 2017, 12:22 PM
                      6. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - Michael on Apr 18, 2017, 6:38 AM
                      7. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - INCquisitor on Apr 18, 2017, 4:12 PM
                      8. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - Michael on Apr 18, 2017, 9:55 PM
                      9. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - INCquisitor on May 18, 2017, 6:43 PM
                      10. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - Michael on May 19, 2017, 9:10 AM
                      11. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - INCquisitor on May 21, 2017, 5:08 PM
                      12. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - Michael on May 22, 2017, 9:14 AM
                      13. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - INCquisitor on May 22, 2017, 3:26 PM
                      14. Re: Jesus was sent to save sinners (Matt. 1:21). - Michael on May 22, 2017, 8:19 PM
              3. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 8:46 AM
                1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 20, 2016, 10:47 AM
                  1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 3:54 PM
                    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 21, 2016, 5:22 AM
                      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 22, 2016, 7:04 PM
                      2. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 9:25 AM
                      3. Jesus did not come to destroy the prophets, that's true. - INCquisitor on Feb 19, 2017, 12:37 PM
                      4. Prophets is plural, so it is not just Ezekiel. - Tomas on Feb 25, 2017, 8:54 PM
                      5. Obviously, you do NOT know what Jesus was sent by God for. - INCquisitor on Mar 4, 2017, 3:36 PM
                      6. Sure, the main thing Jesus was sent by God for was to die for our sins, - Tomas on Mar 4, 2017, 7:24 PM
                      7. God did not send Jesus to "die for our sins." - INCquisitor on Mar 5, 2017, 12:18 PM
                      8. Romans 10:4 says "For Christ is the end of the law , so that there may be - Tomas on Mar 5, 2017, 4:00 PM
                      9. Paul was referring to rightousness of faith" (Rom. 10:6). - INCquiditor on Mar 6, 2017, 6:04 PM
                      10. Yes, faith is necessary for salvation. And Rom. 10:9 does specify two salvation - Tomas on Mar 7, 2017, 11:23 PM
                      11. You say, "That means we NEED to OBEY him." - INCquisitor on Mar 12, 2017, 5:24 AM
                      12. I obey Mt. 15:11 and Mark 7:15. That instruction permits us not to always wash - Tomas on Mar 12, 2017, 6:51 PM
                      13. If you MISINTERPRET Matt. 15:11 and Mark 7:15... - INCquisitor on Mar 14, 2017, 6:35 PM
                      14. I do not misinterpret Mt. 15:11 and Mark 7:15, you do. - Tomas on Mar 15, 2017, 6:44 AM
                      15. Matt. 15:11 and MNarrk 7:15 is NOT about eating with unwashed hands. - INCquiitor on Mar 16, 2017, 6:34 PM
                      16. It sure is. Look at the context. - Tomas on Mar 16, 2017, 10:28 PM
                      17. You are thinking beyond what is written Tomas. - INCquisitor on Apr 6, 2017, 5:58 PM
                      18. No, I am going by all that is written there. - Tomas on Apr 6, 2017, 10:17 PM
                      19. Jesus did not say, "with washed hands" either. - INCquisitor on Apr 8, 2017, 4:17 PM
                      20. Jesus was responding to criticism in Mt. 15:2 about them eating with unwashed hands. - Tomas on Apr 8, 2017, 8:24 PM
                      21. Re: Jesus was responding to criticism in Mt. 15:2 about them eating with unwashed hands. - INCquisitor on May 18, 2017, 6:49 PM
                      22. The issue Jesus reacted to was the tradition of washing hands. - Tomas on May 28, 2017, 1:25 AM
                      23. You are saying that Jeus LIED, aren't you? - INCquisitor on May 28, 2017, 4:27 PM
                      24. Jesus did not lie, of course. You just misunderstood what he said there. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:29 PM
              4. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 20, 2016, 9:21 AM
                1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 20, 2016, 11:00 AM
                  1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Nov 22, 2016, 5:50 PM
                    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Nov 23, 2016, 10:02 AM
                      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Feb 19, 2017, 5:13 PM
                      2. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Apr 15, 2017, 1:49 AM
                      3. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Apr 16, 2017, 4:08 PM
                      4. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Apr 17, 2017, 11:43 AM
                      5. The gospel you preach does NOT reveal the "righteousness of God." - INCquisitor on Apr 18, 2017, 4:16 PM
                      6. Re: The gospel you preach does NOT reveal the "righteousness of God." - Michael on Apr 18, 2017, 11:22 PM
     
  11. Sad day for INC View Thread - antonio-menorca on Apr 21, 2017, 10:39 PM
    1. I watched the debate, and Dr. White made a major blunder in that he failed to say - Tomas on Apr 30, 2017, 12:42 AM
    2. To be expected - Jose Rizal Fan on May 31, 2017, 6:19 AM
      1. Where does INC disagree with the true gospel? I haven't found any disagreement. - Tomas on Jun 10, 2017, 9:28 PM
     
 
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