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  1. Jesus' two conditions for SALVATION. View Thread - Beatrice77 on Dec 11, 5:40 PM
    1. No, the 2 conditions are faith and repentance. - Tomas on Dec 11, 10:42 PM
      1. In other words, don't water baptise at all, it's not needed for salvation. Because of the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 7:39 PM
        1. That's like saying don't pray at all, it's not needed for salvation. - Tomas on Dec 31, 6:32 PM
          1. You contradict yourself and you don't even notice. If we don't do baptism we will not be - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 11:10 PM
            1. You still don't understand me. - Tomas on Jan 2, 7:44 AM
    2. Get a load of Tomas. He contradicts Jesus himself. He teaches another gospel. - Beatrice77 on Dec 12, 12:19 PM
      1. I don't contradict Jesus, but confirm what he said. - Tomas on Dec 17, 7:11 AM
        1. You're preaching self baptism. 1 Cor. 11:13-15 - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 5:55 AM
          1. Do you mean chapter 12? - Tomas on Jan 21, 7:42 AM
            1. You misunderstood. 1 Cor. 11:13-15 means you're the devil in disguise or pesessed by, or - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 21, 6:45 PM
              1. Then you must mean 2 Cor., not 1 Cor. But in spite of your divisiveness, - Tomas on Jan 23, 1:13 AM
                1. You don't understand 2 Cor. 11:13-15 . You APPEAR to be the angel of light, but the devil - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 23, 5:43 AM
                  1. I don't even claim to be the angel of light. - Tomas on Jan 23, 9:34 AM
                    1. You pretend to not understand. Just acting as an angel of light but being Satan is enough. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 23, 10:53 AM
                      1. All Christians are angels of light. If I were Satan, - Tomas on Jan 28, 12:45 AM
    3. First condition of Jesus: Faith. Divine Faith, not human faith. - Beatrice77 on Dec 12, 12:25 PM
      1. What is true religion? To believe all that God has taught. - Beatrice77 on Dec 14, 6:21 PM
        1. The true religion is defined in James 1:27. - Tomas on Dec 17, 8:32 AM
        2. What is the true religion? The beliefs of Protestants are in disarray. - Beatrice77 on Dec 29, 5:11 PM
          1. For salvation, we just need to believe the essentials of faith. - Tomas on Dec 31, 4:42 PM
    4. Baptism is not a requirement to be saved - Jason on Dec 14, 8:35 PM
      1. Jason, the apostles commanded baptism for the remission of sins. - Beatrice77 on Dec 15, 1:57 AM
        1. Negative - Jason on Dec 15, 7:03 PM
          1. If not - Mims on Feb 7, 7:59 PM
        2. Who in the New Testament after the Pentecost was not baptized, yet saved? - Beatrice77 on Dec 15, 7:39 PM
          1. Baptism is necessary for many things, salvation is not one of them - Jason on Dec 15, 8:04 PM
          2. Jason, why do you defy Jesus? Are his words not clear to you? - Beatrice77 on Dec 17, 2:44 AM
            1. Jesus' words are very clear. "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...." - Beatrice77 on Dec 17, 2:48 AM
              1. I agree with Jason. - Tomas on Dec 17, 7:30 AM
              2. Here you go B - read it fully - Jason on Dec 17, 7:41 PM
                1. B - Did you read this fully? - Jason on Dec 22, 9:04 AM
                  1. You are right. Many denominations have false doctrines. - Beatrice77 on Dec 25, 10:36 PM
                    1. Again - Why are you not able to answer my question and prove your claims? - Jason on Dec 29, 4:47 PM
                      1. Very simple Jason. God did not teach that you learn from your private interpretation - Beatrice77 on Jan 24, 7:51 AM
                      2. Jason, you think you are already saved? Have you eaten Jesus' flesh and blood yet? - Beatrice77 on Jan 24, 8:24 AM
                2. Jason, you rely on the interpretation of one Protestant. How about other Protestants? - Beatrice77 on Dec 24, 5:57 AM
                  1. They equal my interpretation - Otherwise I wouldnt post it - Jason on Dec 24, 2:40 PM
                    1. You have been refuted. "Born of water" is baptism. Therefore baptism is essential - Beatrice77 on Dec 26, 4:14 AM
                      1. No, born of water is born of the living water of the gospel. - Tomas on Dec 26, 4:13 PM
            2. Born again is by faith, not baptism - Jason on Dec 17, 7:37 PM
            3. Jason, you defy Jesus and the early church fathers. How can you be saved? - Beatrice77 on Dec 19, 9:55 PM
              1. I am not denying the importance of Baptism - it is never a requirement of salvation - Jason on Dec 22, 9:06 AM
          3. Beatrice, for example Cornelius and gentiles around him - Tomas on Dec 17, 11:40 AM
            1. Tomas and Jason. The bible is clear. Jesus and the apostles taught - Beatrice77 on Dec 24, 4:52 AM
              1. The Bible is very clear that Cornelius was saved before water baptism. - Tomas on Dec 24, 1:24 PM
              2. Tomas is wrong again about Cornelius. To be saved, God commands baptism. - Beatrice77 on Dec 27, 7:16 AM
                1. No, Acts 11:14-15 refers back to Peter's words in 10:38. - Tomas on Dec 31, 5:02 PM
      2. So, in your church (Calvary), - tumpak on Dec 17, 3:04 AM
        1. I have been baptized - what do you mean by "sacrament"? - Jason on Dec 17, 7:42 PM
          1. You know what is sacrament - tumpak on Dec 18, 2:57 AM
          2. What is a sacrament? A visible sign instituted by Christ to give grace. - Beatrice77 on Dec 20, 8:04 AM
          3. Jason, you're losing credibility. Bringing the Catholic Church in connection with paganism - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Feb 9, 8:29 AM
      3. The bone of contention is, which comes first and why - cyrus2009 on Dec 17, 6:22 AM
        1. Yes, salvation precedes water baptism. - Tomas on Dec 17, 7:54 AM
        2. You cannot loose your faith, if your not baptized - Jason on Dec 17, 7:46 PM
          1. You are out of context Jason. - Beatrice77 on Dec 21, 7:14 PM
            1. One verse does not invalidate or refute another verse - Jason on Dec 22, 8:25 AM
            2. Who is out of context? - Jason on Dec 22, 8:49 AM
              1. I agree, except that the Manalos are a bad example. - Tomas on Dec 24, 1:32 PM
                1. The Manalo's created one of the worlds worst cults ever - Jason on Dec 24, 2:06 PM
                  1. They were wrong on some things, but they taught the right Christ, - Tomas on Dec 24, 3:56 PM
                    1. They taught a false Jesus as I have clearly proven - for many years now - Jason on Dec 29, 4:40 PM
                      1. Teaching a false Jesus means only those sects that believe - Tomas on Dec 31, 5:15 PM
                      2. The devil in disguise wants to make us to believe what's necessary and what not. So if we - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 9, 6:53 AM
                      3. If we believe him the "unnecessary"? - Tomas on Jan 14, 4:01 AM
                      4. Unnecessary or optional faith are teachings of the devil. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 4:58 AM
                      5. Guenter, thanks for sharing us your teachings! - Jim on Jan 14, 5:36 AM
                      6. You're most welcome. But you're still badmouthing. Not following the teachings of Jesus. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 5:47 AM
                      7. So does it mean, Guenter is the follower of Jesus ??????? - Jim on Jan 15, 4:51 AM
                      8. There is no mention in the Bible of so many things we have in our vocabulary today that - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 6:14 AM
                      9. No Guenter. you are very desperate to make excuses of your sick behaviour! - Jim on Jan 16, 8:03 AM
                      10. Hehehe, your laundry list is the living proof: The Obsessive Mental Masturbator will talk - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 8:54 AM
                      11. Guenter, I am just enumerating how you would expound the word masturbation in your ..... - Jim on Jan 16, 1:25 PM
                      12. Mental masturbation is a scientific medical term..if that's too much for you, that isn't - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 1:40 PM
                      13. Why don't you admit FYM was a con-artist? Instead of disputing scientific medical terms? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 1:47 PM
                      14. It is not scientific nor medical! - Jim on Jan 17, 6:36 AM
                      15. You live in denial and nobody can help you. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 17, 6:42 AM
                      16. Guenter, so is Romans 14 of the devil? - Tomas on Jan 15, 10:53 PM
                      17. That's not faith. Faith is believing in EVERYTING that Jesus claims to be. YOU don't - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 5:47 AM
                      18. Jesus claimed many titles about himself. - Tomas on Jan 21, 8:05 AM
                      19. My very last response to you. The Bible is God's word. If you believe that, and I hope you - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 21, 7:05 PM
                      20. If belief in biblical inerrancy were necessary for salvation, - Tomas on Jan 23, 12:51 AM
                      21. You truly are the devil disguised as the angel of light as mentioned in - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 23, 5:47 AM
                      22. I didn't say I don't believe in the entire Bible as God's word. - Tomas on Jan 23, 9:47 AM
                      23. Remember, there is ony one gospel... - cyrus2010 on Feb 4, 5:13 PM
                      24. Yes, and I do believe the gospel. - Tomas on Feb 6, 12:59 AM
            3. Mark 16 - Jason on Dec 22, 10:13 AM
      4. The devil also believes and trembles, but he's not saved. - Beatrice77 on Dec 18, 5:17 PM
        1. The devil did not repent. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2:04 AM
          1. James also means many things.... - cyrus2009 on Dec 19, 11:09 PM
            1. I agree, but I want to clarify, that we are the bulwark of truth only - Tomas on Dec 24, 4:00 PM
      5. Conversation with Jesus... - Theo_Book on Feb 4, 3:45 PM
        1. The necessary baptism is the Holy Spirit baptism, not water. - Tomas on Feb 6, 1:09 AM
          1. Peter says Baptism in water saves us. - Theo_Book on Feb 6, 1:44 AM
            1. But verse 21 makes it clear that it is our conscience that saves, - Tomas on Feb 6, 2:56 AM
              1. Show one verse that says Holy Spirit baptism saves. - Theo_Book on Feb 6, 5:25 AM
    5. Jason, Martin Luther, the father of Protestantism, speaks of "Faith Only" and Baptism. - Beatrice77 on Dec 24, 6:07 AM
      1. Luther made great contributions, but on water baptism - Tomas on Dec 24, 3:48 PM
    6. Jesus's and the Bible's ONE CONDITION for salvation - Jason on Dec 24, 2:22 PM
      1. Yes, but we need to be careful how to interpret it. - Tomas on Dec 24, 6:40 PM
      2. "Not everyone that said to me Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. - Beatrice77 on Dec 27, 8:21 AM
        1. It is very clear, salvation is only through the grace of God - cyrus2009 on Dec 29, 2:30 AM
          1. Nobody is disputing that salvation is free. But Jesus requires baptism. - Beatrice77 on Dec 29, 9:04 AM
            1. You receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit when baptized, not salvation - Jason on Dec 29, 4:46 PM
            2. Protestants do not receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. - Beatrice77 on Jan 1, 3:30 PM
              1. LOL - those are the lies of a cult - Jason on Jan 12, 6:07 PM
              2. Jason, you are saying Jesus founded not a church but a cult? - Beatrice77 on Jan 24, 7:56 AM
        2. B - you are a broken record - Jason on Dec 29, 4:38 PM
    7. What is the true religion? The beliefs of Protestants are in disarray. - Beatrice77 on Dec 29, 5:16 PM
      1. These are the lies of a cult - Jason on Jan 12, 6:09 PM
    8. If we are commanded to believe the true Faith, God must us the means to know what He has - Beatrice77 on Dec 29, 5:30 PM
      1. Tomas doesn't believe that. He believes that God is tricking us, that we are not supposed - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 11:43 AM
        1. God is not tricking us, but we can trick ourselves. - Tomas on Jan 2, 7:54 AM
          1. You don't believe that God wants us to understand what He taught us. You're saying the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 8:12 AM
            1. The Bible is totally clear on doctrines necessary for salvation. - Tomas on Jan 2, 9:01 AM
              1. You are preaching selective faith. God and Jesus command faith, not selective faith. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 7:19 PM
                1. If everything in the Bible were necessary for salvation, - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:41 AM
                  1. This is my VERY last response to you. Was I talking faith or was I talking interpretation - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 7, 3:21 PM
                    1. There is no unnecessary faith? - Tomas on Jan 9, 5:04 AM
                      1. You don't even know what faith is. When the Bible is telling us history, like if David was - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 9, 6:01 AM
                      2. OK, Sabbath doctrines are not history, but optional faith. - Tomas on Jan 14, 4:25 AM
                      3. 1 Cor. 11:13-15 - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 5:00 AM
                      4. 1 Cor. 11:13-15 does not say hair length is necessary for salvation. - Tomas on Jan 15, 10:47 PM
                      5. 1 Cor. 11:13-15 says that we have to beware of people like you. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 16, 5:38 AM
                      6. I think I found it, you mean 2 Cor., not 1 Cor. - Tomas on Jan 21, 8:23 AM
                      7. Your comments here leave no other conclusion. Also the devil can - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 21, 6:53 PM
                      8. Don't people used by the devil spread false gospels? - Tomas on Jan 23, 1:44 AM
                      9. That is the devil's trap. He says he's spreading the true gospel to fool - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 23, 5:38 AM
                      10. I agree. But in my case, I am orthodox. - Tomas on Jan 23, 10:11 AM
              2. Another question: 1000 of man's years or 1000 of God's years? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 7:30 PM
                1. I see no indication that Rev. 20 refers to anything but human - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:46 AM
            2. I would ignore Tomas if I were you. I suspect he's the devil pretending to be human. - Beatrice77 on Jan 2, 5:50 PM
              1. Beatrice, I am afraid you're very close to the truth. I have told Tomas several times I - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 6:48 PM
                1. But don't forget that the way INC still acts today is the way RCC used to act - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:57 AM
                2. How did you knew that the spirit that talks to you is a Holy one? - Jim on Jan 12, 7:00 AM
                  1. A comment like that only can come from you. How afraid you must be. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:08 AM
                    1. your attitude does not reperesent trhe Holy spirit! - Jim on Jan 12, 7:14 AM
                      1. The Holy Spirit doesn't need to be represented, He represents Himself. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:18 AM
                      2. " I will pray for you because I love you" *smile* - Jim on Jan 12, 5:36 PM
                      3. That was a very loving smile. By the way, I was wide awake when the Holy Spirit touched - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:49 PM
                      4. There is no loving smile from a sarcastic person! - Jim on Jan 14, 5:40 AM
                      5. Yes, my dear. Using a Hitler comparison is a trillion times worse that calling you a - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 5:49 AM
                      6. "mental masturabator" did you inevented that phrase? - Jim on Jan 15, 4:45 AM
                      7. Oh poor Jim, your education seems to be very limited. Mental masturbators have been - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 6:20 AM
                      8. So Guenter is that your regular utter words in your daily lives? - Jim on Jan 15, 5:03 PM
                      9. The Obsessive Mental Masturbator will talk about the same thing over and over again - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 8:16 PM
                      10. Why, what about Hitler? - Jim on Jan 15, 5:16 AM
                      11. Hitler's works killed millions of millions of people. So, your comparison is a trillion - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 5:58 AM
                      12. Oh, well same thing with you Guenter! - Jim on Jan 16, 7:50 AM
    9. God has given us the means to know the truth. Not the Bible but through the Church. - Beatrice77 on Jan 1, 2:43 PM
      1. Did the early primitive Christians learn from the Bible? Was the Bible their teacher? - Beatrice77 on Jan 5, 9:57 AM
    10. The Church of Jesus grew over 300 years without a Bible. - Beatrice77 on Jan 8, 2:24 PM
    11. For 1,400 years, the Christian world was left without the Sacred Bible. - Beatrice77 on Jan 10, 10:53 AM
    12. Do you rely on King James translation with its 39,000 errors to save you? - Beatrice77 on Jan 11, 8:33 PM
    13. How can you be sure of your faith? Which Protestant belief is correct? - Beatrice77 on Jan 16, 3:31 AM
    14. The Bible is not the teacher. God commanded: "Hear the Church..." (Hello Jason & Jim - Beatrice77 on Jan 17, 5:44 AM
    15. Which is the One True Church? - Beatrice77 on Jan 20, 7:27 AM
      1. God commanded us to believe the teaching of the Church, not your private interpretation of - Beatrice77 on Jan 24, 7:45 AM
        1. So why do you think the current teaching is better than 2nd century teaching? - Tomas on Jan 28, 12:57 AM
        2. Good topic. Who says that the current teachings (of the church) is better than the - Beatrice77 on Jan 30, 6:53 PM
          1. Catholics say that. So they reject good teaching of the 2nd century - Tomas on Feb 4, 11:04 AM
            1. More private interpretations by Tomas. Prove to us that those were the teachings of the - Beatrice77 on Feb 4, 6:10 PM
              1. I would recommend you get the book A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs. - Tomas on Feb 6, 1:50 AM
              2. As the Iglesias have Felix Manalo, Tomas has David Bercot, a lawyer, Anabaptist. - Beatrice77 on Feb 7, 10:19 AM
                1. Beatrice, I couldn't agree more. Besides being possessed by the devil, Tomas has - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Feb 8, 1:39 PM
      2. Jesus has provided a living teacher with infallibility, to give us the true meaning of the - Beatrice77 on Feb 9, 6:09 AM
     
  2. ---> Mga Kapatid, Pinagpahinga na po ng Ama si Ka Erdie <--- View Thread - L2S_SPSS on Aug 31, 7:26 PM
    1. Condolence - WinSurfer, RCC on Sep 1, 8:52 PM
    2. Headline: Head of Iglesia ni Cristo Dies. Not Jesus. - Beatrice77 on Sep 3, 1:25 AM
      1. Jesus too died. And was resurrected. And surely Erano too - Tomas on Sep 3, 5:41 AM
        1. Erano is not Jesus. Erano changed Felix Manalo's Trinitarian teaching to Arian. - Beatrice77 on Sep 3, 6:39 PM
          1. Most Trinitarian and most Arian preachers are preaching the true gospel. - Tomas on Sep 4, 10:42 PM
          2. Tomas, the fulness of the true gospel comes only from the Catholic Church. - Beatrice77 on Sep 5, 3:11 AM
            1. I Agree ... Tomas Is A False Prophet - WinSurfer on Sep 7, 11:14 PM
              1. I am not a prophet, there are no prophets of God today. - Tomas on Sep 10, 3:00 AM
              2. Tom, for sure, is a false prophet. I am only wondering why anyone still responds to his - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 7:33 PM
                1. Were I a false prophet, it would be your duty to bring me - Tomas on Dec 31, 6:41 PM
                  1. Thank you for being honest. Now I understand a bit better your confusion and - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 11:26 PM
                    1. I don't think anyone in SDA believes in total apostasy. - Tomas on Jan 2, 12:32 AM
                      1. You're dead wrong again. SDA teaches unmistakenly that SDA are the only remnants of the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 6:29 AM
                      2. They have traditionally taught they are the remnant, but not - Tomas on Jan 2, 7:04 AM
                      3. Not far from the right belief? Missing a target by justone tenth of an inch is MISSING it. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 8:00 AM
                      4. Yes, they are wrong about what the 'remnant' of the Bible means, - Tomas on Jan 2, 8:15 AM
                      5. No, important is that Manalo got his idea about apostasy from his apprentice years at SDA. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 9:51 AM
                      6. He got this idea from what the Disciples of Christ used to teach. - Anonymous on Jan 7, 2:15 PM
                      7. Sorry, the above is from me, Tomas. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2:28 PM
            2. Beatrice, Jesus gave the commission to all Christians, including FYM, - Tomas on Sep 10, 2:36 AM
              1. Bad interpretation Tomas. To whom did Jesus give the keys to the kingdom on earth? - Beatrice77 on Sep 17, 3:21 AM
                1. To Peter only, not to Linus or Benedict or anyone else. - Tomas on Sep 17, 4:18 AM
                  1. Where does it say Jesus took back the keys? - Beatrice77 on Sep 22, 6:24 AM
                    1. Jesus gave the keys only to Peter. - Tomas on Sep 24, 7:07 AM
                      1. If Jesus gave the keys only to Peter, (and not his successors too), then Jesus intended - Beatrice77 on Sep 26, 5:43 AM
                      2. No, Jesus built the church on Peter, not on his successors in any office. - Tomas on Oct 1, 2:27 AM
                      3. You Are Wrong Tomas - WinSurfer, RCC on Oct 2, 4:56 PM
                      4. God used not only the RCC but also other denominations - Tomas on Oct 3, 4:18 AM
                      5. You are so confused and preoccupied, you cannot even answer questions straight. Wasn't - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 11:54 PM
                      6. All the ancient Christian denominations held the Bible to be holy. - Tomas on Jan 2, 12:41 AM
                      7. Ooooopss...they keys were returned to Jesus? Bible verse, please! - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 11:59 PM
                      8. Yes, Jesus has the keys, Rev. 1:18. - Tomas on Jan 2, 6:33 AM
                      9. I don't know what kind of Bible you are reading, the one of the devil? My Bible tells me: - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 7:29 AM
                      10. The keys of Jesus that unlock hades also unlock the kingdom - Tomas on Jan 2, 8:32 AM
                      11. Keys = authority. Without any question, there must be authority in the church that Jesus - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 9:22 PM
                      12. The church had the authority temporarily, while it was still - Tomas on Jan 7, 2:25 PM
                2. peter was fired from his job as "pope." - Theo Book on Nov 20, 9:22 AM
    3. May Erano rest in peace. I hope and think that he died a Christian. - Tomas on Sep 3, 5:46 AM
      1. He still need to repent when resurrected for not recognizing Christ - cyrus2009 on Sep 6, 2:41 AM
        1. Rev. 21:7 is clearly about God. Nothing there says - Tomas on Sep 10, 3:08 AM
      2. There is no second chance. After death, judgment. Heb 9:27. - Beatrice77 on Sep 6, 6:09 AM
        1. For those not able to know the gospel will be resurrected - cyrus2009 on Sep 8, 5:27 PM
          1. That is correct. That is what the millennium is for. - Tomas on Sep 10, 3:16 AM
            1. Just to clarify your agreement - cyrus2009 on Sep 16, 6:27 AM
              1. I'm familiar with this interpretation from the Armstrongist churches, but - Tomas on Sep 17, 4:40 AM
                1. you can disagree, but the scriptures reveal that ---- - cyrus2009 on Sep 18, 5:36 AM
                  1. You misunderstand me, I did not say the judgement is one hour. - Tomas on Sep 19, 5:55 AM
                    1. aGAIN, THE RST OF THE DEAD WILL NOT YET BE RESURRECTED - cyrus2009 on Sep 22, 4:48 AM
                      1. Again, when Rev. 20:4 says the rest of the dead did not come - Tomas on Sep 24, 7:14 AM
                      2. You are inserting something in the book of Revelation. - cyrus2009 on Sep 30, 5:49 AM
                      3. I'm not adding to the book of Revelation, just explaining it. - Tomas on Oct 1, 2:35 AM
                      4. Adding is not the same as explaining------- - cyrus2009 on Oct 3, 5:10 AM
                      5. Life in the Bible sometimes means 'eternal life', - Tomas on Oct 3, 5:23 AM
                      6. You miss the purpose of the first resurrection;;; - cyrus2009 on Oct 5, 4:38 AM
                      7. Yes, the 1st resurrection is those already saved, but the second - Tomas on Oct 8, 8:14 AM
                      8. The verse does not say the time takes place only once - cyrus2009 on Oct 9, 6:33 PM
                      9. My point is the timing of the 2 resurrections. - Tomas on Oct 10, 3:09 AM
                      10. It does say 1 hour apart...John 5 : 28 - cyrus2009 on Oct 12, 2:18 AM
                      11. One hour. Those who translate the word hora as time, - Tomas on Oct 15, 4:36 AM
                      12. Again time is relative. - cyrus2009 on Nov 11, 5:17 AM
                      13. Months apart? Where do you see in the Bible months? - Tomas on Nov 12, 3:32 PM
                      14. Please do not misunderstand - cyrus2009 on Nov 12, 4:01 PM
                      15. I know my belief on this does not correspond with Catholics or INC. - Tomas on Nov 12, 4:54 PM
                      16. Just for more clarifications. - cyrus2009 on Nov 13, 5:56 PM
                      17. I agree with you a lot, here is where I disagree. - Tomas on Nov 14, 12:09 PM
                      18. Watch for the story flow of Rev. 20: 4 - 11 - cyrus2009 on Nov 14, 7:11 PM
                      19. The dead in verse 12 are those who were spiritually dead - Tomas on Nov 19, 4:36 AM
                      20. Again, you made the wrong assumption - cyrus2009 on Nov 20, 3:59 AM
                      21. You misunderstand, I mean those who were spiritually dead - Tomas on Nov 21, 12:39 PM
                      22. Yu really misunderstood verse 12 - cyrus2009 on Nov 23, 5:22 AM
                      23. Yes, it says dead, but it has to be harmonized with the rest of the Bible. - Tomas on Nov 26, 1:49 PM
                      24. There is no contradiciton with Rev. 20:4 - 12 - cyrus2009 on Nov 30, 3:52 AM
                      25. You are changing what Rev. 20:5 says. - Tomas on Dec 3, 4:43 AM
                      26. No. I have not changed its meaning. You are adding something not there - cyrus2009 on Dec 7, 4:35 PM
                      27. I am not adding, just reinterpreting. - Tomas on Dec 10, 9:56 AM
                      28. That is your own private interpretation... - cyrus2007 on Dec 17, 11:53 PM
                      29. A lot in Revelation is symbolic language. - Tomas on Dec 19, 2:43 AM
                      30. Again, using the context will be very important.... - cyrus2009 on Dec 19, 11:03 PM
                      31. Nothing in the context says physical life. - Tomas on Dec 24, 7:36 PM
                      32. Neither it says they will take place at the same time. - cyrus2009 on Dec 28, 11:16 PM
                      33. Mt. 25:32 says 'all the nations'. It does not say all nations still alive. - Tomas on Dec 31, 5:25 PM
                      34. The verse in Rev. 20: 4 ..... - cyrus2010 on Jan 5, 3:08 AM
                      35. We will be on the thrones judging all the unbelievers. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2:38 PM
                      36. There can be no two judgment for all.. - cyrus2010 on Jan 9, 11:06 PM
                      37. The unbelievers who survive the Armageddon will get the same - Tomas on Jan 14, 4:41 AM
                      38. No, my friend...the rest of the dead did not come to life - cyrus2010 on Jan 15, 3:10 AM
                      39. Heb. 6:2 says "resurrection of the dead". - Tomas on Jan 15, 11:54 PM
                      40. Where can you see that the two are one??? - cyrus2010 on Jan 19, 11:38 PM
                      41. Acts 24:15. - Tomas on Jan 21, 8:45 AM
                      42. The resurrection refers to all who ever lived on this earth - cyrus2010 on Feb 4, 4:54 AM
                      43. Correction for first sentence.....But it will not happen at the same time......... - cyrus2010 on Feb 4, 4:57 AM
                      44. Acts 24:15 proves it's at the same time. - Tomas on Feb 4, 9:33 AM
                      45. The day of judgment refers to individuals - cyrus2010 on Feb 4, 4:58 PM
                      46. Rev. 20 has to be interpreted in light of other scriptures, - Tomas on Feb 6, 2:01 AM
        2. Beatrice, the judgement of Heb. 9:27 will last 1000 years. - Tomas on Sep 10, 3:39 AM
          1. After the millenium will be a period of judgment - cyrus2009 on Sep 18, 7:56 AM
            1. After the millennium there will be no more suffering or death, - Tomas on Sep 19, 6:12 AM
              1. We need to have a clear understsanding of the plan of God - cyrus2009 on Sep 22, 4:39 AM
                1. Yes, we should have an understanding, but I don't blame - Tomas on Sep 24, 7:19 AM
                  1. I don't blame you either. - cyrus2009 on Sep 30, 5:56 AM
                    1. OK, I am not dogmatic about it, but as I wrote above, - Tomas on Oct 1, 2:40 AM
                      1. Check what you believed... - cyrus2009 on Oct 5, 4:43 AM
                      2. There is only one day of Judgement, that is the millennium. - Tomas on Oct 8, 8:21 AM
                      3. As I said, judgment is a process... - cyrus2009 on Oct 9, 5:56 AM
                      4. Yes, it's a process, but the same process for both groups of unbelievers. - Tomas on Oct 10, 3:27 AM
                      5. I just told you to read Rev. 20 and 21 carefully - cyrus2009 on Oct 10, 5:29 AM
                      6. I do read it carefully. - Tomas on Oct 15, 4:52 AM
                      7. The Millenial rule is also a period of judgment - cyrus2009 on Oct 27, 3:36 AM
                      8. The millennial rule is the period of judgement for all unbelievers. - Tomas on Oct 29, 7:15 PM
                      9. you are limiting the abilities of the rule of the Saints under the Lord Jesus Christ - cyrus2009 on Oct 31, 9:17 PM
                      10. Sure some will become mature and saved just years - Tomas on Nov 5, 1:29 PM
                      11. You are limiting the power of the kingdom of God.. - cyrus2009 on Nov 6, 2:26 AM
                      12. You are ignoring Is. 65:20. - Tomas on Nov 7, 7:25 AM
                      13. The reign of God and the saints is not what you described - cyrus2009 on Nov 11, 5:10 AM
                      14. We will possess godly powers? - Tomas on Nov 12, 3:48 PM
                      15. Again, you want to limit the power of God... - cyrus2009 on Nov 12, 4:13 PM
                      16. As we know, we will not be limited by time or space? - Tomas on Nov 13, 4:43 AM
                      17. Just an explanation of what it means.. - cyrus2009 on Nov 13, 5:33 PM
                      18. We cannot know how fast we will be able to travel. - Tomas on Nov 14, 2:16 PM
                      19. What God prepared for His chosen are not worth comparing to what our minds can conceive. - cyrus2009 on Nov 14, 7:28 PM
                      20. We cannot know, maybe heaven is just thousands of miles - Tomas on Nov 19, 4:40 AM
                      21. Before you make any assumption, you need a background of astronomy - cyrus2009 on Nov 20, 4:07 AM
                      22. I had a course in astronomy in college. - Tomas on Nov 21, 12:43 PM
                      23. Your knowledge is not enough to conclude about the distance. - cyrus2009 on Dec 7, 4:38 PM
                      24. I'm not concluding, you seem to be concluding. - Tomas on Dec 10, 10:05 AM
                      25. The important thing is, we acknowledge Him as creator - cyrus2009 on Dec 29, 2:18 AM
                      26. If it were important that Jesus is the creator, - Tomas on Dec 31, 5:37 PM
                      27. Knowing and refusing to know are two different angles - cyrus2009 on Jan 1, 6:58 PM
                      28. I will answer for it? - Tomas on Jan 2, 6:44 AM
                      29. You are in danger then.... - cyrus2010 on Jan 5, 4:24 AM
                      30. He won't be asking such questions of us. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2:46 PM
                      31. Since you have mistakenly assumed that He is only a man - cyrus2010 on Jan 9, 11:10 PM
                      32. Jesus might be God, we cannot know. And he might be a man now, - Tomas on Jan 14, 4:56 AM
                      33. Show us the Father and it will suffice.... said Philip - cyrus2010 on Jan 15, 3:15 AM
                      34. The Father is in Jesus. - Tomas on Jan 16, 12:02 AM
                      35. Your refusal to admit will not be an excuse - cyrus2010 on Feb 4, 5:06 PM
                      36. There are many verses that seem to say Jesus is not God. - Tomas on Feb 6, 2:30 AM
     
  3. "Failed Prophecies" View Thread - kulafu on Jan 21, 6:11 PM
    1. Wow! The Catholic church was led by a false prophet. - Tomas on Jan 23, 10:19 AM
      1. All nonsense and hearsay. No conclusive evidence that Pope Innocent III nor - Beatrice77 on Jan 24, 10:52 PM
    2. Olivet Prophecies of matthew ch 24:2-32 have all been fulfilled! - csdr on Jan 23, 10:44 AM
      1. Difference between "coming in the clouds" and the second coming of Christ - csdr on Jan 23, 11:09 AM
      2. I think you're wrong, the tribes of 70 AD did not see Jesus coming. - Tomas on Jan 28, 12:30 AM
        1. Re: I think you're wrong, the tribes of 70 AD did not see Jesus coming. - csdr on Jan 30, 9:36 AM
          1. Genea does not mean only 'generation', it can mean - Tomas on Feb 4, 10:12 AM
    3. Those prophecies - kulafu on Jan 31, 9:54 PM
      1. The Bible is written for all of us. - Tomas on Feb 4, 10:41 AM
        1. Oh really? - kulafu on Feb 5, 7:16 PM
          1. You can't expect Bible writers to write in every language. - Tomas on Feb 6, 12:47 AM
     
  4. "Christ in Egypt:: The Horus-Jesus Connection" View Thread - kulafu on Feb 5, 9:41 PM
    5.  
  5. Happy Birthday - God in the Flesh View Thread - Jason on Dec 14, 8:55 PM
    1. Hey Pagan Jason, how do you know it was your god who was born on Dec 25? - Jim on Dec 15, 5:18 PM
      1. So you agree then, that Jesus Christ is God manifested in the flesh? - Jason on Dec 15, 6:58 PM
      2. Welcome back, Jimsky. Interesting post. What are your reference? - Beatrice77 on Dec 17, 12:59 AM
        1. If you don't agree with Dec. 25th, according to your sugo, what is the correct date - Beatrice77 on Dec 17, 1:03 AM
          1. No one knows the exact date of Christ's birthday - cyrus2009 on Dec 17, 6:00 AM
            1. Yes, INC is wrong in celebrating Lord's Supper in the morning. - Tomas on Dec 17, 6:38 AM
        2. Jimsky, does the devil own Dec. 25th? If somebody is born of Dec. 25th, then he is born on - Beatrice77 on Dec 19, 9:45 PM
      3. Here are a few - Jason on Dec 24, 2:45 PM
        1. A fourth century pope? Hardly reliable. - Tomas on Dec 24, 7:12 PM
      4. Hello baby Jim. INC is losing again. The Bible says Christ was born. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 7:51 PM
        1. My little child Hitler Guenter, - Jim on Dec 28, 3:13 PM
          1. I didn't expect anything else, just baby talk from baby Jimsky. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 3:31 PM
            1. I don't believe in Santa Claus? - Jim on Dec 28, 5:13 PM
              1. You have no answers. Go back in your cave. The fact remains, thousands of INC members are - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 5:26 PM
                1. I think Santa Claus is more popular than Jesus during Christmas! - Jim on Dec 28, 5:29 PM
                  1. Stop thinking and leave that to the horses, they do have a larger brain than you. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 5:32 PM
                    1. Guenter tell me honestly, do you believe on Santa Claus? - Jim on Dec 28, 5:35 PM
                      1. I believe in the celebration of the birth of the most holy child. You and INC are - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 5:40 PM
                      2. I see! - Jim on Dec 29, 5:17 PM
                      3. Another stupid question of yours. "The child never grew up?" You're beating your own - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 29, 8:05 PM
                      4. you are the one what mentioned about a "child" - Jim on Dec 30, 5:34 AM
                      5. Won't you always be the child of your parents even when you're 50 years old? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 5:39 AM
                      6. Guenter said "betraying that child by denying him the honor of celebrating his birth. - Jim on Dec 30, 5:45 AM
                      7. So little child Guenter! - Jim on Dec 30, 5:46 AM
                      8. Lol, you do have Santaphobia. Christians celebrate Jesus' birthday. Pupils of the devil in - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 5:59 AM
                      9. You do have a major language problem, no wonder you misunderstand the Bible. Even when - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 6:09 AM
                      10. Do you really celebrate Christ birthday? - Jim on Dec 30, 3:19 PM
                      11. You're a disgusting example of a human being. Educated by Satan. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 3:24 PM
                      12. LOL - Jason on Dec 30, 7:23 PM
                      13. You're right, Jason. Retardet satanic individuals like Jimsky can only be taken with humor - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 12:56 AM
                      14. Oooooops, sorry for the typo...retarded... *Smile* - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 12:57 AM
                      15. You can hurl both all the insults you can think off but the facts remains true! - Jim on Dec 31, 6:47 AM
                      16. The fact remains true: Jesus deserves that we celebrate His birthday. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 8:41 AM
                      17. So tell me the origin of Christ's mass' if you knew about it! - Jim on Dec 31, 8:57 AM
                      18. I told you a long time ago, that I am not Catholic. Take your time and read all of the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:03 AM
                      19. You read it yourself! Pathetic! - Jim on Dec 31, 9:07 AM
                      20. I wrote it. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:19 AM
                      21. Yeah I know you wrote it! LIAR! - Jim on Dec 31, 4:39 PM
                      22. Same here : Hehehe, you fell for my sarcasm. Do you really think I would have the time to - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 5:31 PM
                      23. Oooops hehehehe! - Jim on Jan 1, 5:44 AM
                      24. " I wrote it " - Jim on Jan 1, 8:30 AM
                  2. Everyone KNOWs Manalo is more popular than Jesus all year long! - discoverer on Dec 29, 6:46 PM
                    1. The master - Mims on Jan 1, 4:21 AM
                    2. Any INC church service mirrors that picture. INC and the administration are being - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 8:01 PM
    2. Jason, have you converted to modalism? - Tomas on Dec 17, 6:56 AM
      1. Nope - Jason on Dec 24, 2:25 PM
        1. So you acknowledge you used a poor argument? - Tomas on Dec 24, 7:15 PM
          1. Its very possible - Jason on Feb 2, 11:38 PM
            1. OK, none of us is perfect. - Tomas on Feb 4, 9:37 AM
    3. Jason, do you worship in the lie of Christmas? - Tomas on Dec 17, 7:06 AM
      1. Before you judge Jason, just because he happened to celebrate Christmas - cyrus2007 on Dec 17, 11:46 PM
        1. I don't judge Jason to be unsaved, but we should warn each other - Tomas on Dec 19, 4:26 AM
          1. Again, you have not presented a date..... - cyrus2009 on Dec 19, 10:56 PM
            1. We should not present a date. - Tomas on Dec 24, 7:28 PM
              1. You're such an idiot. (Sorry, that may be a sin again). Did God forbid to celebrate - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 11:25 PM
                1. God forbade paganism and syncretism. - Tomas on Dec 31, 3:47 PM
                  1. Celebrating Jesus' birthday is not paganism. Even if the date coincides with - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 4:12 PM
                    1. It coincides on purpose! That's important. - Tomas on Dec 31, 6:19 PM
                      1. Buh humbug. Any other day would have coincided with some other pagan day of worship. That - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 10:33 PM
                      2. Most days of the Roman pagan year were not holidays. - Tomas on Jan 1, 11:59 PM
                      3. You're contradicting yourself again. Some time ago you used as an argument for your - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 6:03 AM
                      4. Even if Jesus told the apostles the date of his birth, - Tomas on Jan 2, 7:23 AM
                      5. More fallacy. Jesus did not reveal himself as the Savior until he was about 30 years old. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 7:46 AM
                      6. Jesus never lectured them earlier? Look at Luke 2:49, - Tomas on Jan 2, 8:48 AM
                      7. Two fallacies. You're getting better. Jesus did not disobey his parents when He stayed - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 6:21 PM
                      8. Jesus was no idiot. He knew his parents would be worried - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:21 AM
          2. Celebration in designated dates does not matter.. - cyrus2009 on Dec 28, 11:28 PM
            1. So that means we could celebrate it anytime we want? - Jim on Dec 29, 5:21 PM
              1. With the thousands of gods in th pagan world... - cyrus2009 on Dec 31, 1:59 AM
                1. Good one, Cyrus. But the fact of the matter is, that INC members are still celebrating - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 5:37 PM
            2. Cyrus, this does matter, when it's claimed to be a holy day. - Tomas on Dec 31, 4:26 PM
              1. Yes, even it is declared a holiday, it does not matter - cyrus2010 on Jan 5, 9:49 PM
                1. The use of a pagan calendar to set a holy day is repugnant - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:27 AM
                  1. So what calendar are you suggesting?? - cyrus2010 on Jan 15, 3:25 AM
                    1. Yes, the biblical calendar. - Tomas on Jan 15, 11:22 PM
      2. Those who do not celebrate Christmas, deny Jesus Christ - Jason on Dec 24, 2:38 PM
        1. So Jason do you perform Christ Mass? - Jim on Dec 24, 4:22 PM
        2. So the Puritans denied Christ? - Tomas on Dec 24, 7:32 PM
        3. Jason, do you celebrate the birth of Christ or the Catholic mass of Christ? - Jim on Dec 25, 9:49 AM
          1. Jimsky, does INC (Pasugo) tell you to celebrate ANY birthday? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 11:35 PM
            1. Little child - Jim on Dec 28, 3:14 PM
              1. No answer from Jimsky, just more baby talk. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 3:32 PM
                1. You believe on Christmas? how about Santa Claus? - Jim on Dec 28, 5:14 PM
                  1. Jimsky, does INC (Pasugo) tell you to celebrate ANY birthday? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 5:30 PM
                    1. Tell me first do you celebrate Santa's brithday during Christmas? - Jim on Dec 28, 5:36 PM
                      1. Sorry, but you're such an idiot. You're the living proof that there are no dumb answers, - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 28, 5:42 PM
                      2. So what is the relation of Santa Claus in celebrating Christ's Mass? - Jim on Dec 29, 5:14 PM
                      3. You're sidestepping. The question is DO we give Jesus the honor and celebrate His birthday - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 29, 8:11 PM
                      4. whe was his birth according to the bible? - Jim on Dec 30, 5:39 AM
                      5. You can celebrate it properly at ANY day of the year. Like you give a - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 5:57 AM
                      6. Oh I see but why do you coincide it with your god Sol Invictus? - Jim on Dec 30, 3:22 PM
                      7. Pagan origin? Only in your dirty mind. Santa stealing attention? Only in your dirty mind. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 30, 3:41 PM
                      8. You are on denial Guenter! - Jim on Dec 31, 7:31 AM
                      9. Buh Humbug. Even though Christmas has been partially commercialized (which is bad) - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 8:24 AM
                      10. yup, of course because it is not Christ birthday! - Jim on Dec 31, 9:00 AM
                      11. You cannot win, Jesus makes tens of thousands of INC members celebrate His birthday on - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:06 AM
                      12. Liar your ass on fire! - Jim on Dec 31, 9:08 AM
                      13. Why would you say that? Have you ever been to the Philippines on Christmas like I was? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:17 AM
                      14. You are busted already LIAR! - Jim on Dec 31, 4:40 PM
                      15. I will tell you why you're wrong. You know that I was in the Philippines this Christmas. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 5:23 PM
                      16. Christmas a national holiday! - Jim on Jan 1, 4:20 AM
                      17. Dear Sir, what a lame excuse. The friends and family members I know celebrated Christmas - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 7:19 AM
                      18. Hey Pagan Guenter, You researched so much against the INC - Jim on Dec 31, 8:23 AM
                      19. Your claim is false and not as simple as you want to look it. I hope you'll find the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 8:59 AM
                      20. I read the first sentence The mass for Christ! - Jim on Dec 31, 9:01 AM
                      21. Because you didn't read on, you stopped at the first sentence or paragraph. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:11 AM
                      22. You do not understand what you posted, Pathetic! - Jim on Dec 31, 9:04 AM
                      23. I wrote it. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 9:18 AM
                      24. You should be ashamed to your Father the devil for your lies! - Jim on Dec 31, 4:38 PM
                      25. Hehehe, you fell for my sarcasm. Do you really think I would have the time to do all that - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 5:08 PM
                      26. Do you think people here are as stupid as you? - Jim on Jan 1, 4:09 AM
                      27. Not all people are stupid, but many are, like obviously you. Falling for my sarcasm, - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 7:25 AM
                      28. guenter said, "I write this!" - Jim on Jan 1, 8:29 AM
                      29. I know, your brain is just too small for logic. Look at all the data, history, names etc. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 8:36 AM
                      30. So what is your POINT of lying? - Jim on Jan 1, 8:46 AM
                      31. You're still masturbating....you need this to boost your ego. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 11:40 AM
                      32. You don't even understand what kind of masturnbation I am talking about. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 11:53 AM
                      33. Same here : Hehehe, you fell for my sarcasm. Do you really think I would have the time to - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 5:13 PM
                      34. eeeeeee hehehehe sorryyy! - Jim on Jan 1, 5:46 AM
                      35. I told Guenter to read what he posted, he should be the one to read it! - Jim on Jan 1, 8:41 AM
                      36. You're still masturbating.... - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 11:38 AM
                      37. I can't believe this guy turned to masturbation! - Jim on Jan 1, 2:02 PM
                      38. I am sorry, I don't know any better word for your behavior. What is indecent about it? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 4:50 PM
                      39. One more thing, my dear friend: You called me Hitler how many times? Hitler caused the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 8:41 PM
                      40. One more thing, my dear friend: You called me Hitler how many times? Hitler caused the - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 1, 8:30 PM
                      41. why? aren't you proud of your Der Fuhrer now? - Jim on Jan 2, 8:16 AM
                      42. Again, you hypocrite, "fondling boys" as you accused me of, does harm others. Masturbation - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 9:56 AM
                      43. Thanks to the obnoxiios mouth Der Fuhrer. - Jim on Jan 2, 1:26 PM
                      44. Christ is preaching to love your enemies. You call them toxic brethren. Another evidence - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 6:55 PM
                      45. Look who's talking about love. - Jim on Jan 2, 8:14 PM
                      46. Not really. I truely love you, baby Jim. Why else would I try to save you from the claws - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 8:40 PM
                      47. Now your melting - Jim on Jan 3, 6:20 AM
                      48. You're not a Christian. Christians love each other AND their enemies. You keep on spewing - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 3, 6:28 AM
                      49. Of course Guenter is a loving Christian! - Jim on Jan 3, 7:39 AM
                      50. I know, you don't understand love, you never will. Jimsky, just be happy in INC. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 3, 8:25 AM
                      51. You know very well who Satan is, huh? - Jim on Jan 3, 8:48 AM
                      52. I see, you can't stop masturbating. May God have mercy with you. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 3, 4:49 PM
                      53. Guenter, I doubt about that revelations you had came for the Holy Spirit - Jim on Jan 12, 7:09 AM
                      54. Of course you have to say that. As a follower of Satan, disgiused as an angel of light, - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:13 AM
                      55. thats the excuse of all people like you! We are all sinners! - Jim on Jan 12, 7:16 AM
                      56. Oh, we are not? Then Jesus died in vain? Is that a new INC doctrine? - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:19 AM
                      57. Here is one major difference between the followers of Satan and the followers of Jesus: - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:34 AM
                      58. How can i believe your love? You are a certified liar in this forum? - Jim on Jan 12, 5:17 PM
                      59. Why am I not surprised? You're following the false teacher Manalo, one of the many false - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 12, 7:36 PM
                      60. You called manalo a false teacher while you call yourself a what? - Jim on Jan 12, 7:58 PM
                      61. Hehe, you're still badmouthing, following the teachings of Satan. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 5:03 AM
                      62. Yeah, guenter the new anointed preacher! - Jim on Jan 14, 5:33 AM
                      63. I love you, Jim. Unfortunately, you just cannot stop badmouthing to make you feel good. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 14, 5:45 AM
                      64. That is the reason that I don't believe your claim. - Jim on Jan 15, 5:27 AM
                      65. Do you really think I care if you believe me or not? You, a peerson that is the follower - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 5:41 AM
                      66. Guenter, thanks but no thanks to your "love" of me. - Jim on Jan 16, 8:18 AM
                      67. I never heard any people decent or indecent uses the word masturbation! - Jim on Jan 15, 4:41 AM
    4. Jimsky, assuming Dec. 25 was satan's day, what if God chose this day - Beatrice77 on Jan 3, 1:26 AM
     
  6. INC members have no answers, but the ycan't admit that Felix Y. Manalo is a con- artist View Thread - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 8:34 PM
    1. Regardless of FYM beliefs, INC members at least have the vitally important answers, - Tomas on Dec 31, 6:53 PM
      1. I didn't ask you, I asked INC members. Your answer strays away from the real problem of - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 11:40 PM
        1. You did not say above that you asked only INC members. - Tomas on Jan 2, 8:10 AM
          1. I said, INC has no answers, I didn't say Tomas has no answers. So it is clear, I didn't - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 9:46 AM
            1. Not clear at all. If INC has no answers, others can try to answer. - Tomas on Jan 7, 11:00 AM
            2. weh? - kallt on Jan 20, 1:35 AM
              1. Hello Mr. or Ms. kallt, nice to meet you. Yes, attending 30 church services, ALL of them - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 20, 5:17 AM
                1. same to you, sir. - kallt on Jan 22, 2:04 AM
                  1. What you’re saying sounds all so familiar. I have heard those lies many times before. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 22, 5:54 AM
                    1. christ only built one. - kallt on Jan 25, 8:47 PM
                      1. Yes, that is true, Jesus only built one church and the gates of Hades will not - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 26, 4:51 AM
                      2. if there is a satanic religion here, - kallt on Jan 28, 2:08 AM
                      3. You are funny. Jesus promised the gates of Hades will not overcome the church He founded - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 28, 6:44 AM
                      4. Kallt, don't run away. Two questions: Whose interpretation? Did the gates of hell prevail - Beatrice77 on Jan 30, 5:09 PM
                      5. Educate us Kallt. What Christian traditions should we observe? - Beatrice77 on Jan 27, 3:39 PM
                      6. wedding bands have nothing to do - kallt on Jan 28, 2:01 AM
                      7. So it's OK to observe pagan traditions. Kallt lies: "FYM didnt built a new church." - Beatrice77 on Jan 28, 5:37 AM
                      8. simply because no one knows the exact date. - kallt on Jan 28, 8:12 PM
                      9. How can Felix Manalo not know Jesus' birthday? Didn't he claim to be God's last messenger? - Beatrice77 on Jan 28, 8:53 PM
                      10. Do you know the exact date of the second coming of Jesus Christ? - discoverer on Jan 28, 9:42 PM
                      11. Kallt, why is the date more important than the thought and the honor? - Beatrice77 on Jan 30, 3:38 AM
                      12. Oh poor kallt, now everybody is after you. You may soon disappear as so many before you - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 30, 7:05 PM
                      13. The hypocrites - Mims on Jan 30, 4:34 PM
                      14. It's even worse than that. I was in the Philippines last Christmas. INC members not only - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 30, 6:32 PM
                  2. Hello Kallt, do you agree with Felix Manalo that the true church is the church founded by - Beatrice77 on Jan 22, 5:28 PM
                    1. of course, the true church is the church founded by jesus. no doubt. - kallt on Jan 25, 1:44 AM
                      1. I am glad you agree. Therefore the church founded by Felix Manalo is a bogus church. - Beatrice77 on Jan 25, 4:48 PM
                      2. hmm... - kallt on Jan 25, 8:37 PM
                      3. It sure sounds ridiculous to write Christ as the founder. Because Christ's second coming - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 31, 1:39 PM
                      4. I am sorry Kallt, you contradict EGM and you contradict Jesus. - Beatrice77 on Jan 25, 9:51 PM
                  3. Kallt, the church needs to be united on basic doctrine, not on voting. - Tomas on Jan 23, 12:09 AM
    2. INC members are hiding in their rat holes, they see it clearly, but don't dare to admit: - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 6, 7:48 PM
     
  7. How many Spirits does Jesus have? Answer Rev 5.6 View Thread - Anonymous on May 21, 12:38 AM
    1. Thanks for acknowledging that Jesus is God. - Beatrice77 on May 21, 2:47 AM
      1. lol Beatrice. Where is that in my reply? So God is made up of 7 spirits? ott. - Anonymous on May 21, 7:57 AM
        1. So in a sense, God was murdered/slain? Can God ever die? 1 Tit 1.17 - Straight from the Bible on May 21, 8:01 AM
          1. You mean 1 Tim., not 1 Tit. - Tomas on May 21, 8:17 AM
        2. I can see what she means. Jesus has the 7 spirits, - Tomas on May 21, 8:13 AM
        3. That is not what the Bible says. If it would say only the Father is the only true God, I'd - Guenter (Ex-INC Student) on Jan 28, 6:12 AM
     
  8. "Christ In Egypt" View Thread - kulafu on Jan 18, 7:25 PM
    1. I think these similarities between Christ and Horus can be explained. - Tomas on Jan 21, 9:36 AM
     
  9. "Jesus In India" View Thread - kulafu on Jan 20, 8:28 PM
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  10. Christ is stronger than the false teachings of INC: I just came back from the Philippines View Thread - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 27, 7:22 PM
    1. Then you have both sinned. I've not celebrated Christmas, since I was - Tomas on Dec 31, 6:08 PM
      1. Who gives you the right to judge me and others? You only read in the Bible what you want - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Dec 31, 10:28 PM
        1. 1 Cor. 5:12 allows mature Christians to judge other Christians. - Tomas on Jan 2, 6:59 AM
          1. You're too funny. Why would a non-Christian celebrate Christ's birth? He doesn't believe - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 2, 9:22 AM
            1. Yes, when I was atheist, I celebrated Christmas. - Tomas on Jan 7, 2:56 PM
            2. Look around you Guenter! - Jim on Jan 15, 4:56 AM
              1. Well, good for you that you saw Jews doing that. I have not. But that's not the point. - Guenter (Ex-INC Bible Student) on Jan 15, 6:07 AM
     
 
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