Click here for Host attention.


The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church of Christ) Doctrines

The intention of this board is to discuss the teachings of the Iglesia Ni Cristo. The rules are: A) must respect others, B) no profanity, C) no name calling, D) no ANONYMOUS posting, and E) must post in English. Messages that contain profane languages or insulting will be deleted. What can be posted? You may post Church doctrines or questions about the doctrines but not questions about individual or member's deed/practice. As host/administrator, I will remain neutral. This means -I will not comment on any post. I will read the post and then make a judgement whether or not it violates any rule. If it does, it will be removed. Lastly, I'm an X-INC.
Not logged in | Login | Create AccountSearch    Chat!    Go back    Post now!
  1. Truth: Christ has the power to resurrect himself after dying. Think about that. View Thread - Michael on Oct 17, 10:29 AM
    1. Jesus is a MAN (John 8:40). God RAISED him from the dead (Rom.. 10:9). - INCquisitor on Oct 17, 3:58 PM
      1. We already know that you say that John 10:18 is FALSE. - Michael on Oct 18, 2:19 AM
        1. John 10:18 is true, but he got the power from the Father - Tomas on Oct 18, 3:14 AM
          1. It's good that you don't trash John 10:18. INCquisitor will not be happy about that. - Michael on Oct 18, 3:58 AM
            1. I don't trash any verse. Certainly no verse preserved in all manuscripts in Greek. - Tomas on Oct 18, 4:51 AM
              1. Re: I don't trash any verse. Certainly no verse preserved in all manuscripts in Greek. - Michael on Oct 18, 7:13 AM
                1. The Father gives Jesus power. - Tomas on Oct 18, 7:43 AM
                  1. "exousia", the right and liberty to act, not "dunamis", power, might or strength - Michael on Oct 23, 8:44 AM
    2. Did Jesus EXERCISE this power? - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 3:16 PM
      1. So now you seem to agree that Jesus had such power. - Michael on Oct 23, 7:26 AM
        1. The FACT tht Jesus did not exercise such so-called power - INCquisitor on Oct 24, 4:15 AM
          1. That's what you say and believe. It's not a fact. - Michael on Oct 24, 8:29 AM
     
  2. The Son of Man ascended to heaven, to where He was before. What does this tell you? View Thread - Michael on Jul 8, 12:24 AM
    1. John 6:62 is a parable like the parables written from - INCquisitor on Jul 8, 4:55 AM
      1. John 6:62 , a parable? - Michael on Jul 8, 12:52 PM
        1. Of course John 6:62 is a parable. - INCquisitor on Jul 10, 5:46 PM
          1. Of course it's not. There is nothing parabolic in this statement of Jesus. - Michael on Jul 10, 11:07 PM
            1. Is there a verse that says where Jesus was before literally? - INCquistor on Jul 13, 7:08 PM
              1. You have not properly responded to my post INCquisitor. - Michael on Jul 13, 8:29 PM
              2. There are many verses in the Bible in which Jesus said: "The Father has sent me." - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 18, 7:06 AM
                1. John wrote that he was sent from God (John 1:6). - INCquisitor on Jul 18, 7:37 PM
                  1. No, because he didn't exist before all things were created, like Jesus. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 10:13 AM
                    1. Jesus was talking metaphorically. - INCquisitor on Jul 20, 3:41 PM
                      1. Yeah right......metaphorically. In your dreams...metaphorically speaking. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 3:57 PM
              3. Where was Jesus before? - inhinyero on Aug 28, 2:45 PM
    2. Yes, Jesus was in heaven before, probably in his preexistence, - Tomas on Jul 11, 7:20 PM
      1. Certainly, the Son was in heaven before He came down to do His Father's will on earth. - Michael on Jul 13, 2:06 AM
        1. Please show scripture that says "the son was in heaven before - INCquistor on Jul 13, 7:12 PM
          1. John 6:38 - Michael on Jul 13, 8:37 PM
            1. John 6:38 does not make Jesus is God. - INCquisitor on Jul 18, 7:24 PM
              1. You asked for scripture. Do you deny the verse I cited [John 6:38]? - Michael on Jul 18, 11:28 PM
                1. Christ's coming from heaven does not mean he WAS God. - INCquisitor on Jul 19, 5:57 PM
                  1. The undeniable truth is that Christ came from heaven. He came from God. - Michael on Jul 19, 7:53 PM
                    1. Don't you understand what the words "only" and "true" mean? - INCquisitor on Jul 20, 3:56 PM
                      1. In that case, you read scriptures as a list of isolated statements. No context whatsoever. - Michael on Jul 20, 9:03 PM
          2. John 17:5 Jesus enjoyed glory with His Father even before the world began. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 13, 8:51 PM
            1. Exactly. If someone shares something with you, you have to exist. Nobody can share - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 18, 7:12 AM
              1. Tell me wise guy, what was Jesus before the world began? - INCquisitor on Jul 18, 7:33 PM
                1. God. He is the Word. [John 1:1, Rev. 19:13] - Michael on Jul 18, 10:51 PM
                  1. Does John 1:1 tell us that Jesus is the word? - INCquisitor on Jul 20, 3:28 PM
                    1. INCquisitor, you still can't see who John testifies about in his writings? - Michael on Jul 20, 7:11 PM
                      1. Apparently, INCquisitor again is stalled by this post. - Michael on Jul 24, 10:31 AM
                2. He was the Archangel, or God the Son, or both, or neither. - Tomas on Jul 18, 10:56 PM
                3. The Word, you wise guy. It became flesh = baby boy. Now, with whom shared God the glory - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 19, 9:52 AM
                  1. Show me scripture that says Jesus WAS the word that became flesh. - INCquisitor on Jul 20, 3:44 PM
                    1. Who else became flesh? Nobody? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Jul 20, 3:53 PM
                4. Where was Jesus? - inhinyero on Aug 28, 3:05 PM
          3. UP FOR FCCC INCquisitor - Michael on Jul 18, 12:34 AM
        2. Michael, tell me when did Jesus ascend to heaven before John 3:13. - Tomas on Jul 18, 10:41 PM
          1. Tomas, Jesus was referring to the immediate time when He descended & become flesh. - Michael on Jul 18, 11:00 PM
            1. But in that verse he also asserted he was the only man - Tomas on Jul 18, 11:27 PM
              1. Re: But in that verse he also asserted he was the only man - Michael on Aug 4, 2:57 AM
                1. OK then, I will then look for your other posts and respond there. - Tomas on Aug 9, 7:56 AM
          2. Let me answer this again Tomas. - Michael on Jul 22, 7:30 AM
            1. He clearly told Nicodemus he has ascended to heaven, not - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:16 AM
              1. Jesus was in heaven, in His Father's heart? - Michael on Aug 4, 2:47 AM
                1. Exactly, in his loving heart. - Tomas on Aug 9, 8:51 AM
                  1. Well then Tomas, so be it with you. - Michael on Aug 9, 11:07 AM
                    1. Well, then Michael, so be it with you. - Tomas on Aug 9, 11:59 AM
                      1. Tomas, where is the lie in what I posted? - Michael on Aug 9, 1:04 PM
                      2. In your interpretation, Jesus would have lied by using the wrong tenses. - Tomas on Aug 16, 9:53 AM
                      3. Not so Tomas. - Michael on Aug 23, 4:08 AM
                      4. But yes so, Michael. - Tomas on Aug 30, 7:41 AM
                      5. And so Tomas - Michael on Sep 2, 10:32 AM
                      6. Ascending to heaven, creation. - Tomas on Sep 13, 10:21 AM
                      7. Re: Ascending to heaven, creation. - Michael on Oct 1, 12:28 PM
                      8. Is the Son of God, God? - Tomas on Oct 4, 8:10 AM
                      9. Yes Tomas. - Michael on Oct 10, 12:26 PM
                      10. OK, but that does not prove he is God. - Tomas on Oct 18, 1:28 PM
                      11. To you, that is. - Michael on Oct 24, 3:21 AM
    3. Whatever John 6:62 says, Jesus tells me that he is a MAN (John 8:40) and... - INCquisitor on Oct 24, 4:23 AM
      1. I know what John 8:40 and John 17:3 tells you. Perhaps John 6:62 tells you nothing - Michael on Oct 24, 8:07 AM
     
  3. TF, what does John 6:62 tell you? What did FYM tell you about this verse? View Thread - Michael on Aug 28, 2:13 AM
    1. UP for TF. If you don't know, would you like to ask your ministers? - Michael on Sep 6, 1:07 AM
      1. hmm..don't take it literally my friend.. - tf on Sep 8, 4:01 AM
        1. I didn't ask for your advice or opinion TF. It's about scriptures. - Michael on Sep 8, 10:49 PM
          1. where is the verse that says.. - tf on Sep 11, 10:19 PM
            1. No verse says PEOPLE saw him descending from heaven, - Tomas on Sep 13, 3:44 AM
              1. Tomas, I thought Jesus was born dead and not spirit? LOL But I admire your confession - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 13, 12:15 PM
                1. If he was created dead, he was created anyway before the foundation - Tomas on Oct 18, 8:20 AM
                  1. Well, Tomas, even considering it a possibility, as you did, that Jesus was created dead, - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 19, 7:45 AM
    2. Later, the apostles literally saw the Son of man ascending to where He was before (heaven) - Michael on Oct 11, 5:07 AM
      1. elijah was also ascended to the clouds.is he God also - tf on Oct 13, 3:09 AM
        1. Even while you are not authorized by INC to comment, let me respond to your comment - Michael on Oct 13, 4:41 AM
          1. where it is shown that jesus literally exist in heave as a person before? - truthfinder on Oct 21, 3:20 AM
            1. The Son of man is a person, or is he not? And the Son of man is Jesus, or is he not? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 7:48 AM
            2. and who is that "Spirit of Christ" in 1 Peter 1:11? - Karlos on Oct 22, 3:44 AM
              1. guenter guenter - tf on Oct 22, 10:14 PM
                1. Re: guenter guenter - Karlos on Oct 23, 1:12 AM
                  1. who is jumping versrs,what verse? - tf on Oct 23, 3:20 AM
                    1. ngeeeee, are ok? - Karlos on Oct 23, 4:09 AM
        2. Hhhhhmmmmmm.... Elijah was in heaven before?....HHmmmmmmm.. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 13, 12:08 PM
          1. the issue here is about the visible ascension.. - tf on Oct 13, 5:04 PM
            1. Your question was if Elijah is also God. And I answered that. Now you're diverting to - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 13, 8:23 PM
            2. What? The issue is Christ ascending to where He was before, not Elijah's. - Michael on Oct 14, 12:12 AM
            3. tf is hiding, and afraid of the truth. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 20, 9:12 PM
    3. Whatever John 6:62 tells you, Jesus tells me that he is a MAN (John 8:40) and.... - INCquisitor on Oct 24, 4:37 AM
      1. I know what John 8:40 and John 17:3 tells you. Perhaps John 6:62 tells you nothing - Michael on Oct 24, 8:05 AM
     
  4. Does anyone know why Christ built HIS church? View Thread - INCquisitor on Apr 29, 7:25 AM
    1. The main reason is we have to be saved in the church, - Tomas on May 2, 11:04 PM
      1. Re: The main reason is we have to be saved in the church, - Michael on Jul 6, 11:28 AM
        1. Sure the church does not save us, only God saves us, but1 - Tomas on Jul 19, 12:14 AM
          1. I'm glad Tomas, that you agree that the church does not save. - Michael on Jul 22, 7:37 AM
            1. God saves us through Jesus, in the church. - Tomas on Jul 26, 1:57 AM
              1. God is the Savior, not the church. - Michael on Jul 26, 11:26 AM
                1. Of course. But he saves us in the church. - Tomas on Aug 1, 11:13 PM
                  1. You keep saying "in the church". I think it sends a wrong message. - Michael on Aug 4, 6:25 AM
                    1. When we are saved, we are added to the church. - Tomas on Aug 9, 6:09 AM
                      1. That's right. - Michael on Aug 12, 10:33 PM
    2. What church do you mean? Building or what? Just to be clear. - Michael on Jun 29, 3:41 AM
      1. Do you honestly believe that Jesus built a building? - INCquisitor on Jun 29, 4:43 PM
        1. I don't but some people does. It's only for clarification. - Michael on Jun 29, 10:15 PM
    3. How to Find the True Church... - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 29, 4:57 AM
      1. Jesus said, "By their fruits you shall know them" (Matt. 7:15-20). - INCquisitor on Jun 29, 4:41 PM
      2. Yes IncQ, the Church Jesus founded teaches the teachings of Jesus. - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 29, 7:33 PM
        1. You LIE Dean. The RCC was not founded by Jesus. - INCquisitor on Jun 30, 5:01 PM
        2. I'm afraid you have poor education IncQ. Who shall we believe you or world encyclopedias? - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 30, 5:37 PM
        3. More encyclopedias affirm Jesus founded the Catholic Church. - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 30, 5:39 PM
        4. Here are more encyclopedias. Where is your reference? None! - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 30, 5:40 PM
        5. And more. You have none! You only have erroneous doctrines. - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 30, 5:42 PM
        6. And some more! You only have false teachings of the Iglesias. - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 30, 5:44 PM
      3. How to find the true church - inhinyero on Aug 1, 11:35 AM
    4. This is the Church Jesus founded. Which church do you belong to? Who founded it? - Dean O'Gowan on Jun 29, 5:07 AM
      1. The RCC was founded by a few overseers or bishops of the - INCquisitor on Jun 30, 7:03 PM
        1. The Claim of the RCC being founded - inhinyero on Aug 1, 11:38 AM
      2. Do you have reference that the Catholic Church was founded by "a few - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 1, 12:17 PM
        1. Apostle Paul prophesied the departing from the faith of some overseers. - INCquisitor on Jul 1, 7:15 PM
          1. Yes. SOME not ALL. - Michael on Jul 1, 9:33 PM
            1. I didn't say ALL, did I? - INCquisitor on Jul 2, 4:39 AM
              1. Yes you said "SOME", not "ALL". - Michael on Jul 2, 5:50 AM
          2. IncQ, who should we believe? You or Jesus? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 2, 6:16 AM
            1. It is not the Holy Spirit that guides the RCC. - INCquisitor on Jul 4, 3:56 PM
            2. If you don't agree that the Catholic Church is guided by the Holy Spirit. - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 4, 8:51 PM
              1. Jesus said, "By their fruit you shall know them" (Matt. 7;15-20). - INCquisitor on Jul 7, 3:58 AM
                1. By their fruits... - inhinyero on Aug 1, 11:44 AM
              2. So what fruits has your church bore? What is the name of your church? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 8, 4:13 PM
                1. For one, the FCCC does not teach that Mary is the "mother of God." - INCquisitor on Jul 12, 3:32 AM
                2. What is the FCCC? - Dean O Gowan on Jul 12, 9:28 AM
                  1. FCCC stands for First-Century Church of Christ. - INCquistor on Jul 13, 6:48 PM
                    1. FCCC..1st century Chuch... - inhinyero on Aug 1, 11:46 AM
                      1. Now don't be so harsh on him. Maybe the New Testament was finished being written - Tomas on Aug 1, 11:19 PM
                      2. The NT did not exist in one volume... - Inhinyero on Aug 4, 1:30 PM
                      3. OK, maybe no Christian near the end of the first century had ` - Tomas on Aug 9, 6:19 AM
                    2. FCCC...is this the name of the early Church? - Inhinyero on Aug 4, 1:35 PM
                  2. And you are the founder of this FCCC? - Dean O'Gowan on Jul 13, 8:57 PM
    5. According to scriptures: - Michael on Jul 2, 10:06 PM
      1. Yes, I agree, we are heirs of Christ's body, the church. - Tomas on Jul 5, 2:34 AM
        1. We are heirs of Christ's body? That's weird. - Michael on Jul 5, 1:53 PM
          1. OK, sorry, I misunderstood you a little. - Tomas on Jul 11, 8:02 PM
            1. Glad you have that cleared and agree. - Michael on Jul 13, 3:44 AM
              1. Sure the church is important also for the reasons you stated, but - Tomas on Jul 19, 12:08 AM
                1. What I posted is not about the importance of the church Tomas. - Michael on Jul 22, 6:36 AM
                  1. I did not say we have to be saved by the church, but - Tomas on Jul 26, 2:08 AM
                    1. Re: I did not say we have to be saved by the church, but - Michael on Jul 28, 4:17 PM
                      1. True what you say. And I did not really mean we are saved - Tomas on Aug 1, 11:27 PM
                      2. The church was not established as necessary for our salvation. - Michael on Aug 4, 6:15 AM
                      3. It sure is necessary for our salvation, we can't be saved outside it. - Tomas on Aug 9, 6:42 AM
                      4. No. We are saved and added to the church, and not saved by being added to the church. - Michael on Aug 12, 10:43 PM
                      5. OK, we are not saved only by being added to the church. - Tomas on Aug 16, 6:33 AM
                      6. No. We are saved and added to the church, and not saved by being added to the church. - Michael on Aug 17, 2:23 AM
                      7. But that is not what you say in your comment below. - Tomas on Aug 30, 11:13 PM
                      8. Re: But that is not what you say in your comment below. - Michael on Sep 1, 12:46 AM
                      9. As I see it, that does not make much sense. - Tomas on Sep 13, 12:32 PM
                      10. Re: As I see it, that does not make much sense. - Michael on Sep 29, 1:01 PM
                      11. OK, at the same time. So it is part of salvation. - Tomas on Oct 4, 9:35 AM
                      12. Re: OK, at the same time. So it is part of salvation. - Michael on Oct 10, 11:47 AM
                      13. At the same time but not part of salvation, but a consequence of it? - Tomas on Oct 18, 2:20 PM
                      14. Re: At the same time but not part of salvation, but a consequence of it? - Michael on Oct 24, 12:48 AM
    6. Now, it's your turn INCQUISITOR, what is your answer to your question at the OP? - Michael on Jul 4, 9:06 PM
    7. What do you say is the reason why Christ builds His church? What's your answer to your OP? - Michael on Jul 8, 12:55 PM
      1. UP for INCQUISITOR - Michael on Jul 9, 4:30 PM
    8. INCquisitor, why did Christ built His church? - Michael on Jul 13, 7:26 PM
      1. Don't know the answer INCquisitor? What do you tell those who are members of FCCC? - Michael on Aug 13, 11:49 AM
     
  5. prayer to the tritnity View Thread - tf on Oct 13, 2:44 AM
    1. You're joking about God.....tsk! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 13, 9:54 AM
      1. how do u pray tp 6our trinity - tf on Oct 13, 5:05 PM
        1. You don't even understand Trinity, otherwise you wouldn't ask a stupid question like that. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 13, 8:12 PM
          1. Amen to that. - Michael on Oct 14, 12:13 AM
          2. so the ordinary guenter understands the trinity??wowwww - truthfinder on Oct 21, 3:25 AM
            1. Proof that Michael and I have different vies about Trinity! Or better shut your mouth! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 6:40 AM
          3. so the ordinary guenter understands the trinity??wowwww - truthfinder on Oct 21, 3:25 AM
            1. Who says I am ordinary? Proof it! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 6:41 AM
          4. so the ordinary guenter understands the trinity??wowwww - truthfinder on Oct 21, 3:26 AM
            1. Why are you dodging the question where Jesus was before but not Elijah? - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 7:12 AM
          5. so the ordinary guenter understands the trinity??wowwww - truthfinder on Oct 21, 3:27 AM
            1. Why do you and your INC cohorts claim Jesus was not prophesied being God by Isaiah when, - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 7:16 AM
      2. Guenter, why is that an invalid prayer, if you believe - Tomas on Oct 18, 8:02 AM
        1. If you consider this: "or the the TRinity is one God?" a part of a prayer, I only can - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 19, 7:49 AM
    2. In the NAME of whom does INC baptize? - Michael on Oct 19, 11:00 AM
      1. In the NAME: Singular - only ONE, not Plural/Many - Michael on Oct 19, 9:24 PM
        1. why did you capitalize the word NAME?? - tf on Oct 23, 3:17 AM
          1. For people like you who can't SEE clearly. Now, can you answer my question? - Michael on Oct 23, 5:34 AM
      2. One yet of three: Father, Son, Holy Spirit - Michael on Oct 19, 9:26 PM
        1. Amen to that! - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 7:04 AM
     
  6. According to John 10:18, Jesus has the POWER to take his life back again. View Thread - INCquisitor on Oct 18, 3:12 PM
    1. Jesus had that power even if he was totally dead, body, soul and spirit. - Tomas on Oct 18, 4:10 PM
      1. That's what can be understood in John 10:17-18 - Michael on Oct 23, 1:24 AM
    2. God is Spirit. Jesus' Spirit does die. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 18, 4:31 PM
    3. God is Spirit. Jesus' Spirit DOESN'T DIE. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 18, 4:32 PM
      1. You say if God died, the whole world will collapse into oblivion. - Tomas on Oct 18, 4:44 PM
    4. That's right INCquisitor. All you need is to believe in it. - Michael on Oct 23, 2:41 AM
     
  7. John 20:27-29: Do not be unbelieving, but believing. View Thread - Michael on Oct 17, 1:34 AM
    1. Thomas did not believe that Jesus had RISEN. That's all. - INCquisitor on Oct 17, 4:35 PM
      1. Re: Thomas did not believe that Jesus had RISEN. That's all. - Michael on Oct 18, 1:47 AM
        1. Michael, look at the Greek inspired translation of what Thomas said. - Tomas on Oct 18, 2:36 AM
          1. I already did Tomas, even before you ask me to. - Michael on Oct 18, 3:38 AM
            1. Of course Thomas was amazed. - Tomas on Oct 18, 5:04 AM
              1. We can only speculate that Tomas. - Michael on Oct 18, 6:44 AM
                1. OK, surprised or not, he was talking about the Father. - Tomas on Oct 18, 7:24 AM
                  1. Well, if that's what you want to believe. - Michael on Oct 18, 10:28 AM
                    1. Well, that's how I see it in the Bible. - Tomas on Oct 18, 5:45 PM
                      1. Re: Well, that's how I see it in the Bible. - Michael on Oct 22, 2:43 PM
     
  8. Son of Man: Why do the apostles almost never refer to Jesus by that title? View Thread - Michael on Sep 5, 12:27 PM
    1. your problem is - tf on Sep 8, 4:02 AM
      1. TF, I have no problem. - Michael on Sep 8, 10:32 PM
        1. you are one of the world's problem - tf on Sep 11, 10:21 PM
          1. He seems to be a good Christian, - Tomas on Sep 13, 3:09 AM
    2. Michael, you are making just an assumption, that the apostles - Tomas on Sep 13, 3:30 AM
      1. Let's look and analyze scriptures then Tomas. - Michael on Oct 3, 6:24 AM
      2. Let's look and analyze scriptures then Tomas. - Michael on Oct 3, 11:35 AM
        1. It is a mystery. - Tomas on Oct 4, 7:45 AM
          1. A mystery it is, yet is a mystery revealed. - Michael on Oct 9, 3:09 AM
          2. A mystery it is, yet is a mystery revealed. - Michael on Oct 9, 3:10 AM
            1. Your revelation is so speculative. - Tomas on Oct 18, 6:46 PM
              1. Not so Tomas. That's analysis. Analysis is not speculation, MAYBE's are. - Michael on Oct 20, 10:04 AM
                1. LOL, Michael, that was a good one. Tomas, the king of Maybe. - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 10:11 PM
     
  9. Jesus proclaimed Himself "Alpha and Omega." I will be their God and they shall be my View Thread - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 8, 5:03 AM
    1. So each can be called Alpha and Omega in some sense. - Tomas on Oct 18, 6:50 PM
      1. A comment : Alpha and THE OMEGA. - Michael on Oct 19, 11:19 AM
      2. Here comes the "Jesus was created" fantasy again! A child called mighty God was prophesied - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 21, 7:23 AM
    2. One God and One Lord. Jesus Christ is Lord. The Lord is our God. - Dean O'Gowan on Oct 21, 10:43 AM
    3. The one who sat on the throne (Rev. 21:5) - not Jesus spoke Rev. 21:6. - INCquisitor on Oct 21, 5:24 PM
     
  10. For Tomas only: Verses that speaks of Christ's Deity. View Thread - Michael on Aug 17, 3:51 AM
    1. the Logos was divine - tf on Aug 22, 3:31 AM
      1. Finally TF had a voice again. The Logos was divine. So? - Michael on Aug 22, 2:34 PM
        1. it was not me who admitted this truth - tf on Aug 25, 4:05 AM
          1. So TF, what now? - Michael on Aug 25, 11:47 AM
            1. so what now?? - tf on Sep 8, 3:53 AM
              1. Tell us what you and INC say and not what others say. That's what. - Michael on Sep 8, 10:55 PM
                1. stop crying... - tf on Sep 11, 10:22 PM
                  1. How can theos mean divine as adjective? - Tomas on Sep 13, 3:02 AM
                    1. Re: How can theos mean divine as adjective? - tf on Sep 14, 10:17 PM
                      1. I am surprised those two Greek grammarians did not know - Tomas on Sep 27, 3:28 AM
                      2. This is not the first example in which INC falls for (or better: takes advantage of) - Guenter (EX-INC Bible Student) on Oct 20, 9:09 PM
                  2. Stand up on your own feet TF. - Michael on Sep 27, 4:51 AM
    2. Why "For Tomas only?" - INCquisitor on Aug 25, 6:22 PM
      1. This was coming from one of our discussion in another thread. - Michael on Aug 25, 9:49 PM
      2. Herr Incquisitor, you are a New Yorker. Are you pals with this male New Yorker? - Oberst Ozzy Osborn on Aug 26, 6:43 PM
        1. Welcome to this forum. Is Pellien now in New York? - Tomas on Aug 30, 9:56 AM
    3. Michael, here is my response concerning those verses. - Tomas on Aug 30, 10:11 AM
      1. So verse John 1:1 is best translated "... and the Word was a god". - inhinyero on Aug 30, 10:18 AM
        1. No, I am not JW, even though I started my Bible study with them. - Tomas on Aug 30, 12:39 PM
      2. Re: Michael, here is my response concerning those verses. - Michael on Sep 9, 12:39 AM
        1. About the Word, and the word. - Tomas on Sep 13, 2:52 AM
          1. Re: About the Word, and the word. - Michael on Sep 27, 7:55 AM
            1. About a god, the Word of life. - Tomas on Oct 4, 11:22 AM
              1. Re: About a god, the Word of life. - Michael on Oct 7, 4:42 AM
                1. More examination of 1 John 1:1-2. - Tomas on Oct 18, 7:25 PM
                  1. Re: More examination of 1 John 1:1-2. - Michael on Oct 20, 8:10 AM
                  2. Re: More examination of 1 John 1:1-2. - Michael on Oct 20, 8:31 AM
     
 
  2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40   Next >> 
Find more forums on ChristianityCreate your own forum at Network54
 Copyright © 1999-2014 Network54. All rights reserved.   Terms of Use   Privacy Statement  

Click here for Host attention.