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Now let's test Lasenna's post called "God last work of salvation" Matt 24:9-12

October 28 2009 at 12:54 AM		Beatrice77  (Login Beatrice77)


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Here is his post:
Jesus know that the first century church would be apostatized because of PERSECUTION, FALSE PROPHET, BETRAYAL and HATE TO ONE ANOTHER. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold (Matt 24:9-12).


Here are actual verses from the bible.

Matt 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall put you to death: and you shall be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be scandalized: and shall betray one another: and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall seduce many. 12 And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold. 13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.

My comments: Matt 24:9-13 does not say anything about apostasy of the first century church. Sure, many Christians were put to death. But as verse 13 says, he that shall persevere to the end will be saved. Many Christians did persevere. In fact Rome under emperor Constantine became converted and tolerated the practice of religion.

Therefore the Church Jesus founded withstood the gates of hell.

 
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  1. Now let's test Lasenna's post: Acts 20:29-30. - Beatrice77 on Oct 28, 1:16 AM
    1. Re: Now let's test Lasenna's post: Acts 20:29-30. - lassena on Oct 28, 10:58 PM
      1. OK, but bishops like your uncle do not rule your church. - Tomas on Oct 29, 4:38 PM
        1. Tomas, does your bishop have children? If not then he would be disqualified. - Beatrice77 on Oct 29, 6:41 PM
          1. Yes, our bishops need to have at least 2 children. - Tomas on Oct 29, 11:17 PM
            1. So did Corinthian women shaved their head when they pray? Like this? - Beatrice77 on Nov 8, 10:52 PM
              1. Sorry, I can't watch videos. - Tomas on Nov 12, 2:32 PM
          2. And if the bishop could not have 2 children, then he should not be bishop. - Beatrice77 on Nov 7, 4:07 PM
            1. That's right, we need to see how he brings up at least 2 - Tomas on Nov 12, 2:51 PM
     
  2. More Lasenna's post. again out of context from a Catholic book - Beatrice77 on Oct 29, 1:03 AM
    1. Re: More Lasenna's post. again out of context from a Catholic book - lassena on Oct 29, 6:26 AM
    2. What matters, is that the Bible does not define it as an article - Tomas on Oct 29, 4:46 PM
     
  3. More Lasenna's flawed logic. - Beatrice77 on Oct 29, 7:10 PM
    1. You are very correct, except in stating the first century church went only up to India. - Tomas on Oct 29, 11:43 PM
    2. Re: More Lasenna's flawed logic. - lassena on Oct 30, 12:10 AM
      1. What happened to the church? It grew. Here's Christianity timeline. - Beatrice77 on Oct 30, 6:26 PM
        1. Re: What happened to the church? It grew. Here's Christianity timeline. - lassena on Oct 30, 11:32 PM
      2. The "other sheep" copied by Felix Manalo from the Mormons. - Beatrice77 on Oct 30, 6:49 PM
        1. Re: The "other sheep" copied by Felix Manalo from the Mormons. - lassena on Oct 30, 11:27 PM
          1. So which are "the other sheep", the Aetas, the Moroni Indians, or the gentiles? - Beatrice77 on Nov 10, 7:20 PM
            1. I did study the Mormon church, but have not heard of Moroni Indians. - Tomas on Nov 12, 2:59 PM
     
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