Re: More Lasenna's flawed logic.

Here are his posts:
"The very Question now is Did Christ failed, when he said: “upon this rock, I will build my church!”? No Christ did not fail as he said,

Mr. Lasenna is right in saying that Christ did not fail. As Jesus says,
1. "Upon this rock, I will build my church."
2. "“And I will ask the Father, and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever."
3. He himself promised to be with his church "ALL DAYS, even to the end of the world."

Jesus was with his church ALL DAYS from the time of the Pentecost in about 33 AD through the centuries, through WWI, through WWII and up to the present time.

Therefore there was no need for Felix Manalo's imitation "church of Christ."

-- Revised Standard
John 10:16 And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.

Bible scholars agree that the other sheep Jesus was referring to were the gentiles (non Jews).

A. ok

Felix Manalo claimed that the other sheep were the Filipinos. This is ridiculous thinking.

A. ?


In about 30 AD, there were only a handful of pygmies (Aetas and Negritoes) in the islands now called Philippines. Why would Jesus think of these pygmies when there are also pygmies in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, the Papua New Guinea, the Fiji islands, etc.?
If Jesus was concerned about those pygmies, he would send one of his apostles there. The farthest the apostles have gone to was India and this was St. Thomas who called Jesus Lord and God.

No Jesus was not thinking of the pygmies. Jesus was thinking of ALL NATIONS, the gentiles. That's why Peter and Paul went to the center of commerce of the world at that time and that was Rome. St. James, bishop of Jerusalem was left to care for the Jews.

A. Trully, Jesus was thinking of ALL NATIONS, the gentiles. Anyway, these you call pigmies are gentiles or not gentiles? It is true that Jesus was not thinking of that pigmies, when he said, “I have othe sheep”, this is in harmony of time given in the prophecy, ENDS of the earth.

B. From 30 AD – 100 AD, what event happen to the church?

C. To proclaim the gospel in Europe how many century needed? Think of it by now?



Felix Manalo copied the Mormons interpretation of the "other sheep" to mean their nations. The Mormons invented the Moroni Indians as the other sheep. Felix Manalo invented the other sheep as the Filipinos, to prop up the egos of Filipinos to make them believe they are special to Jesus. And idiotic Filipinos enjoyed hearing this Manalo invention.

A. Copy? Prove it! I don’t think I’am special nor prop up my egos believing that we are the other sheep of Jesus. I do believe that by God grace and mercy I would be save! I never think that I less sin of you, God mercy on me and forgive my sin. Ask my Filipino brothers and sisters if they are not think and feel the same.


Paul prophesied it in 2 Tim 4:3-4 "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."