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Re: The Gospel Of Christ

February 19 2017 at 5:13 PM
INCquisitor  (Login fccc354)


Response to Re: The Gospel Of Christ

 
ME:

You said "How can I refute your explanation of verse 20? You merely reiterated what it says"!

Let's see if I just repeated what it says. Here, let me post it here.

"In v.20, what Jesus is talking about is clearly about the Scribes and Pharisees' righteousness, as referring to what it is they do and think and even teach to be the righteousness one needs to have in order for one to enter the Kingdom of God, and concerns the righteousness of whom He speaks to, His audience. So, even if you find what you say stands to reason, it's not what makes it to be what is said and meant in the verse.

Here is v. 20 and I'll put in CAPS the important words you should not fail to take emphasis and consider in trying to understand what it says, "For I say to you, that UNLESS YOUR righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, YOU will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven".

Jesus says "UNLESS", meaning, 'except on the condition that'. So, Jesus is telling them of a condition. What is that? That is, YOUR righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the Scribes and Pharisees. The verse says "YOUR" righteousness. So, the condition is with regards one's righteousness as compared to that of the Scribes and the Pharisees. Clearly, the righteousness of God is not in view here in verse 20. The verse says "YOU" will by no means enter the kingdom of Heaven. What Jesus says here concerns them to whom He says these things, and is with regards the matter of entering the Kingdom of God, in relation to the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees. That they will enter the Kingdom of Heaven on the condition that THEIR righteousness exceeds that of the Scribes and the Pharisees, or that, they will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven if their righteousness does not exceed that of the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees. That is all there is in there. There is nothing Jesus said about how they will exceed the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees".

Now, if you say "How can I refute your explanation of verse 20? You merely reiterated what it says", which evidently I did not, it just shows that, what I have said there is like repeating what verse 20 says, which means that there is really nothing for you to refute as it says the same thing as what the verse says.

You asked "Is anything wrong with what I teach"?

Yes. That is what can be found in our discussion in this thread. As of this point, it's about your teaching regarding Mt.5:20, centering on your take of the law as specifically referring to Deut. 24:16 and Ezek.18:20. And so, whatever it is you teach based on this automatically is erroneous as well, for it is based on a wrong premise.

INCQUISITOR:

Earlier, you asked, "Now, Jesus speaks of "the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees" in verse Mt.5:20. What do you say Jesus is referring to by "the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees"?

To which I replied:

"Jesus did not have to tell his audience that "no one can exceed the righteousness of the Scribes and Pharisees by following the law of Moses." The Scribes and the Pharisees were fanatic about the observance of the law of Moses. Therefore, it stands to reason that no one can exceed the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees by following the law of Moses, even if Jesus did not say this."

Apostle Paul wrote, "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes" (Rom. 10:1-4).

Israel is composed of Jews and among them are the Scribes and the Pharisees. To these people, righteousness means strict compliance with tradition and the laws of Moses.

To exceed the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharisees, one must "submit to the righteousness of God."

Unfortunately I failed to effectively make you understand what it is I was trying to impart.

The "righteousness" of the scribes and Pharisees is their strict compliance with tradition and the Laws of Moses. But apostle Paul considers this as the scribes and Pharisees "seeking their own righteousness" INSTEAD of submitting to the righteousness of God (Rom. 10:1-4).

Therefore, one must "SUBMIT to the righteousness of God" in order to EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees.

Do you know the "righteousness of God" to which you must submit? If you don't, then you can never EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees and you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 5:20).


 
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  1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Apr 15, 2017, 1:49 AM
    1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - INCquisitor on Apr 16, 2017, 4:08 PM
      1. Re: The Gospel Of Christ - Michael on Apr 17, 2017, 11:43 AM
        1. The gospel you preach does NOT reveal the "righteousness of God." - INCquisitor on Apr 18, 2017, 4:16 PM
          1. Re: The gospel you preach does NOT reveal the "righteousness of God." - Michael on Apr 18, 2017, 11:22 PM
     
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